croup question

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croup question

I have no experience with this...

Brian is sick right now. Symptoms are: terrible sounding cough, mostly congested sounding; slight runny nose; fever off and on; seems miserable and his cry sounds weak (for him) and hoarse. The part that concerns me is that his cough has a barking sound to it and the inhale between coughs is almost as loud as the cough itself.

My MIL in all her optimism said yesterday that all her kids sounded like that before they got croup. But if she hadn't said anything I never would have thought of it. If it wasn't for this bad cough, I'd think he just had a normal cold.

So at what point would you bring your kid in? Is there anything they can do for croup? I just don't know anything about it. I think I remember reading something around here about bringing them outside or something, but I can't remember the details. (Sorry about the stupid questions, I have gotten VERY little sleep for the past several days)

Thanks.

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Barking on the inhale is not good. With our history of croup, my kids would be seeing the pedi now before I needed to make a 2 am ER run. Croup is always worse while they sleep, so what may seem/sound mild now, can/does turn into a major emergency in the middle of the night. There is nothing you can do to treat the virus that has caused it, but there is a lot you can do to prevent the airways from swelling so bad that their oxygen intake is effected.
Run a cool air humidifier in his room, the smaller the room he is in with it the better. A warm air vaporizer will make things worse, so make sure it is a cool mist. Keep the temp of his sleeping room a little cooler than you would normally. For us, just closing the vents of the room and bumping the heat down 2 degrees is usually enough to keep everyone else from freezing.
If he's having an attack take him into a very steamy bathroom, I usually turn on the hot water from the shower, close the curtain or door to the tub and when it is nice and steamy, crack open the curtain a bit so the steam billows out into our faces. After about 15 minutes of that, bundle both of you up together in a heavy blanket and go outside for about 15 minutes. You need to remain calm, as much as it will freak you the hell out. Crying only makes things swell more, so you want to do everything you can to make him believe this is a super fun game. If his lips are blue, skip all that and head straight to your neasrest E.R. If he is still barking on an inhale after the steam and then the cold air from outside, go to the E.R.

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holy crap........reading mels response made me super nervous!!!!!!!!
we have never had croup......and by the sounds of it......we never want it!!! i'm so sorry, i hope brian just has the nasty cold virus that is going around(and even that stinks....... Sad )
((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))

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Sorry, I forgot something. Ibuprofen helps keep the swelling down, you may want to just dose him every 6 hours for the next couple of days. Oh and your pedi 'should' prescribe steroids or albuterol syrup, maybe both.

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The one time Miles had it, the pedis office gave him a dose of steroids in the office. It made him CRAZY but I think I would rather the craziness than what Mel described (we never got that far). He literally ran in circles for hours and then ended up crashing (literally) into the couch and falling asleep.

I think the reason I ended up at the pedi was because I called and the nurse heard him over the phone and told us to bring him in.

Good luck!

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i say bring him to the pedi...like mel said i'd rather go now than in the middle of the night......we've dealt with it a coupld of times here....in the lil ones the bark is no question...as they get older though i have found that sometimes the are 'barky' but it's not as much as a concern as when they are little!!!!

the first time with alyssa they gave her the steroid right in the office..i think she was 8 months or so....they wanted to make sure that she could tolerate it because apparently alot of kids throw it right up.....if she threw it up they were going to send us to the er but she tolerated it fine and i tell you what...what a difference within about an hour!!!! they gave us a script for about 5 days worth of steroids (so we would have some extra for the next time) but she had told us that if it made her too wired and she seemed 'better' then we could stop it....but she actually did fine with it!!!

ty had croup twice ..i forget how old..the first time the doc that i don't particulary care for just blew it off.....he wasn't in any apparent distress ...really only 'barking' when he cried but you could tell that he didn't feel good....the second time it was after office hours and i brought him into the er. ...again you couldn't even really tell until he started crying but when he crying it was that inpiratory and expiratory wheeze/bark that scared me........they looked at me like i was nuts but i didn't care..well i should say that the doc looked at me like i was nuts but the nurses understood......i think the doc only gave him a dose of steroid just to apese me but i don't care...i didn't want to have that emergency situation that mel spoke of in the middle of the night

good luck...hope he feels better

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......ooops wrong thread. I didn't realize the stipud backspace key took me back this many pages. :rolleyes:

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"luangwa" wrote:

Candace, I did get a water table at the last CS, thank you for thinking of me. Smile

And yes, you won't be able to get the L&T new until Feb. Tell your SIL you need another idea.

ROFL

ahem.....maybe the water table will cure the croup...that's a new one...maybe i'll try it Wink

or maybe you put the water table in the shower so it gives them something to play with and put the tv in there too but you won't be able to watch lady and the tramp unless you have the old dvd cause it's still in the vault Wink ...now that will just make the kids cry and worsen the croup so not sure that's such a good idea!!!

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LOL Peg!

Thank you all so much. Wow, croup is NO joke! That must be so scary for moms. Freaked me out reading Mel's first response...

I'm glad i have this thread so I can refer back to it, but thankfully Brian is doing MUCH better. I think he just needed some serious sleep. He really turned a corner later in the day yesterday and I didn't hear him cough much at all in his sleep last night.

Thanks again, and I hope this board can be all done with croup!!!

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