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Question of the day

Keep in mind, that it is NOT illegal to have a carseat installed in the front seat, just far more safe in the rear of the vehicle.

So, the question of the day.....

If your vehicle was so equipped, that you could disable the front passenger air bag, or your vehicle was so old that it didn't have front air bags, would you place a rear facing infant carrier in the front seat?

However you answer, just don't ask why I'm asking this outlandish question. Wink

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Um, well I see car seats in the front all the time. I have even seen a mom holding her baby in the front seat with them both buckled up.....

I am not really sure if I would or not. We have always just stuck them in the back seat. Oh, with Wyatt, it sure would have been SO SO much easier if they were in the front.

I stick them in the back so hopefully mom can have some quiet time and crank the radio up...........................LOL

ROFL smart a$$ question of the day..........Mel, why do you ask this question???? ROFL :ROFL: ROFL :ROFL: ROFL sorry, couldnt help myself.....you dont have to answer either.....

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no... I think of front seats as "adult only" just a me thing I guess.

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If it were our only option, yes. Obviously it's not ideal, but with the air bag disabled, it's safer than holding the baby or front facing. But, disabling the airbag safely means physically disconnecting it though. I would not trust the automated disable. I'd sooner call a cab or take public transportation.

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"kristimcw" wrote:

Um, well I see car seats in the front all the time. I have even seen a mom holding her baby in the front seat with them both buckled up.....

I am not really sure if I would or not. We have always just stuck them in the back seat. Oh, with Wyatt, it sure would have been SO SO much easier if they were in the front.

I stick them in the back so hopefully mom can have some quiet time and crank the radio up...........................LOL

ROFL smart a$$ question of the day..........Mel, why do you ask this question???? ROFL :ROFL: ROFL :ROFL: ROFL sorry, couldnt help myself.....you dont have to answer either.....

A rear facing infant carrier, like this? And I'm not talking about in a pick up truck with no backseat.

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In some small ended cars, it can be safer to have the seat in front even, especially when being rear-ended.

K, Mel...out with it. Why?

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Yeah they are around here too, in pickup trucks. I wouldn't be comfortable with it in the least. Even when Colby is old enough to be out of a booster, I might just be That Mom and still make him ride in the back seat. I just think of the back seat as being safer, regardless of what statistics say.

So are you shopping for that Mini, Mel?? Wink

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yep, those kinds in the front seats of little cars in the walmart parking lot....

of course that should explain a lot right there!!!

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I didn't know it was within the law to have them in the front seat. I still probably wouldn't do it, but I'm not sure why!! ROFL

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Why, when I post a random question, do you guys think there is always something 'behind' it?

Well, there just happens to be.

Every day when I pick Jax up from school, another parent is there picking up their pre-schooler. She drives a minivan, not brand new, but a newer model that I am SURE has airbags, but not new enough to know that it 'for sure' has a disable option. Everyday, there is a rear facing infant carrier with a baby in it installed in the front freaking seat. Only one other seat in the back of the van is in use and that is occupied by her preschooler in a carseat. WHY???? That just boggles me. ANd to add iscing to the cake, she drives like she is in a qualifying lap for the Daytona 500.
Who can put a rear facing infant carrier in the front seat? HELLO, every vehicle has that fabulous warning about this stuff right on the visor. DEATH can result from this stupid careless move. AND IMO, even if she can choose to disable the airbag, would you actually trust a baby's life with a switch? Not I. said the little red hen.

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Yeah, that just seems insane. WTF. I would NEVER trust a switch to turn off an airbag. And I would never put a rearfacer in a front seat unless it were absolutely my last option. And only then if I could disable the airbag, physically.

What on earth could her pay off be???

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Probably so the baby is right there within easy arm's reach.

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well that's just odd..........i have no need to put a baby in the front seat. i can't imagine what the ladies reasoning is.....

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"Jumarse" wrote:

Probably so the baby is right there within easy arm's reach.

Yea, cause the back seat isnt at all easy to reach, but I dont get why if it is safer for the kids to ride in the back and you have space in the back, do you not put them in the back. Sometimes like trucks that just have the front seat and that is all you have to drive....

I dont know how many times I just went places with Wyatt SCREAMING in the back and just went nuts, but it never ever crossed my mind to put him up front with me because IMO it just isnt an option with a back seat...KWIM?

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"Jumarse" wrote:

Probably so the baby is right there within easy arm's reach.

ya , to hold the paci in the screaming babies mouth??? NICE!!!!! :eek:

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Oh I didn't say it was smart, just what her dumb logic might be, lol. Rode around a good 3 months with Daphne screaming bloody murder the entire time in the car, it also would have never occurred to me to move her to the front!

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yup me too julie....jack was bad, but abby was the worst......i was driving all over creation for sarah's summer softball league.......it was awful, and also never occurred to me to put them upfront.......i jsut made one of the older kids hold the paci ...LOL!!!!!!!

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Geez and if it's only a school pick up they couldn't live *that* far that a baby can't handle a 3 minute car ride???

Baffling.

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is it illegal? you can always report it

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Stupid people. :rolleyes:

It is against the law here. A child under 4 years old must be in the back seat unless there isn't a back seat available. We did put Logan in the front of DH's truck when he was in the rear-facing infant seat, but there wasn't a back seat and there weren't any air bags in it.

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"Jumarse" wrote:

Probably so the baby is right there within easy arm's reach.

Julie, have you ever been in a minivan? I realize I'm not that tall, but unless I lean all way the horizontal, I could not reach anything in the passenger seat.

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"toothy35" wrote:

well that's just odd..........i have no need to put a baby in the front seat. i can't imagine what the ladies reasoning is.....

I have contemplated this exact question, What possible plausible reasoning could she have? I come up with just simple laziness. She has one of the middle captain's chairs removed. So, there is one captain chair behind her seat (her preschooler is there) The captain's chair that should be behind the front passenger is missing and then the bench seat is behind the captain's chair. I'm thinking she is just too freaking lazy to physically get in the vehicle and put the baby in the rear bench seat.

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"Karrie5" wrote:

Stupid people. :rolleyes:

It is against the law here. A child under 4 years old must be in the back seat unless there isn't a back seat available. We did put Logan in the front of DH's truck when he was in the rear-facing infant seat, but there wasn't a back seat and there weren't any air bags in it.

You know what? I think you are right, it just might be illegal here too. I forgot about the age thing for the front seat.

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Wow. That blows my mind. I would never even think of putting her in the front seat. I thought it was illegal too!

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You can't figure out stupid!

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"Jumarse" wrote:

You can't figure out stupid!

LOL! yep, this about sums it up.

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No, I would not unless it was an absolute emergency situation. Yeah, I can't imagine what she must be thinking??

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well if it's laziness.......that is just insane.........i have to climb in the 3rd row everytime we leave so i can help buckle lucy or unbuckle her.......and it's a tiny area to crawl in there,not the big wide open area of the minivan.............and i'm not a tiny person.........she is just plain stupid!!!!!!

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yeah I didn't even know it was an option, still wouldn't do it personally though. I told Aidan only adults are allowed in the front seat. He was a screamer in the car as an infant but I was able to contort my arm in the backseat by almost dislocating it to keep the paci in his mouth LOL. Wow, Mother of the year there eh?

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That's crazy! There must be something more to it...why would she do that?!

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You know, I remember reading an article once that said that some crazy percentage of PARENTS didn't know kids were supposed to be in the backseat. And some parents didn't know the infant seat was supposed to be STRAPPED in, they thought they just set it there.

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"luangwa" wrote:

Keep in mind, that it is NOT illegal to have a carseat installed in the front seat, just far more safe in the rear of the vehicle.

So, the question of the day.....

If your vehicle was so equipped, that you could disable the front passenger air bag, or your vehicle was so old that it didn't have front air bags, would you place a rear facing infant carrier in the front seat?

However you answer, just don't ask why I'm asking this outlandish question. Wink

Only if there wasnt another solution (ie- emergency or something on that lines). Not on a daily basis.

"Karrie5" wrote:

Stupid people. :rolleyes:

It is against the law here. A child under 4 years old must be in the back seat unless there isn't a back seat available. We did put Logan in the front of DH's truck when he was in the rear-facing infant seat, but there wasn't a back seat and there weren't any air bags in it.

Im in Michigan, too. Was glad DHs truck had a full back seat. It looks "funny" to see an infant seat on the seat in a pickup, for whatever reason. I mean, what is the alternative? The bed?

For your school mom- Im guessing laziness. It is a complete PITA to deal with infant seats rear or forward. In a van she would have to get all the way in to secure the infant. But laziness should never take presidance over safety of a child!

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If I didn't have the choice to put the carseat in the back seat and I could safely install it in the front, then sure. But if the back seat was available, I'd still go with the backseat.

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Chiming in late here - but I have had the infant seat in the front with me.
I haven't done it with Jayden, this was years ago with my daughter.
I didn't do it on a reg basis, but my dd hated the carseat and hated the car.
So for short trips I'd put her rear facing in the front with me when I had to drive. If my dh was driving I'd sit in the back with her.

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If it was legal and safe then sure.

Noah's always in the back. Having him in the front would be way too distracting. I've never seen anyone with a carseat in the front and didnt even know people did that. I wouldn't be too quick to judge her parenting though. If it's illegal then I would want to call her attention to that. I like to think that most people out there are good and would put their kids needs ahead of their own.
When Noah takes the school bus they put him in a booster instead of a carseat because they say he fits the requirements for it and that is what they have available. It makes me nervous but I know he's still safe.

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"alexsbabymomma" wrote:

If it was legal and safe then sure.

Noah's always in the back. Having him in the front would be way too distracting. I've never seen anyone with a carseat in the front and didnt even know people did that. I wouldn't be too quick to judge her parenting though. If it's illegal then I would want to call her attention to that. I like to think that most people out there are good and would put their kids needs ahead of their own.
When Noah takes the school bus they put him in a booster instead of a carseat because they say he fits the requirements for it and that is what they have available. It makes me nervous but I know he's still safe.

But the point is, it is neither of these things. Have you ever read the warning on the sun visor above the passenger seat? It is hard to ignore the statement "even when advanced airbags are present, Serious injury and death could result when a rear facing car seat is installed in the front passenger seat." And the next line reads" NEVER place a rear facing infant seat in the front passenger seat".

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Does she actually drive with the kid there or does she maybe just move the seat there while she's waiting?

Also, does she have other kids, too?

My BFF does the fold down one seat thing, but has the 2 bigger girls in the back and the baby in the middle. Since really the older ones (a preschooler I would think) can get out of the seat themselves once they're unbuckled. So she just has to reach back to buckle/unbuckle, but they can do everything else themselves, you know.

Not that you want to go share all this with her, lol. But yeah, I think it'd be hard to ignore the saftey warnings ALL OVER the seat of that car that says DON'T PUT AN INFANT SEAT HERE!!

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"luangwa" wrote:

But the point is, it is neither of these things. Have you ever read the warning on the sun visor above the passenger seat? It is hard to ignore the statement "even when advanced airbags are present, Serious injury and death could result when a rear facing car seat is installed in the front passenger seat." And the next line reads" NEVER place a rear facing infant seat in the front passenger seat".

I didn't say it was legal and safe. I said IF it was legal and safe. You said it was legal. And yes of course I've read the warning on the visor. Sorry if you misunderstood that as me saying it was safe.... I think pretty much everyone here knows kids are safest in the back middle rear facing.