Circumcision Site Worth Reading

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krazykat's picture
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Circumcision Site Worth Reading

Even after years of reading on this subject, I discovered some information that I never knew. I am not posting this to start a debate. I do not judge others for the choices they make, but whether you circ or not, this site has some shocking facts. I am simply sharing it because a lot of the times, I don't feel that all angles of the topic are exposed. So please, nobody take offense, and of course if you don't want to read it, then don't click the link Wink

(Infant deaths mentioned)

http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death-from-circumcision.html

There are two legitimate studies linked at the bottom of the page.

mommyof1.5's picture
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Yet another reason why I will continue on in my decision not to circ... I definitely wouldn't open it if you are dead-set on not circing, and you are super sensitive to pictures though. I have too many friends and families that keep trying to tell me (without any definite reason) that they know better than I do... Meh. I've done research beyond "it's just cleaner." This is one of those, regardless of the decision made, where I feel research either way is necessary.

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Totally some shocking facts and some info that I never new. TFS!
I always like reading up on stuff no matter what side of the issue I'm on.

krazykat's picture
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Joy I'm the same way. I have a group of very "crunchy" natural-minded mamas, and we don't always agree on everything. I am more middle of the road on a lot of things. But I do like to know their reasons and where they get their information from. Sometimes it has changed my mind, other times I have stayed where I am at in my thinking. As for circ, there are things on the page that I have never heard of any doctor informing their moms of... and to me that is not true informed consent. There are always two sides to every issue, but I just want mamas to have both sides instead of only one, kwim?

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Those are some numbers that I definitely hadn't heard before. We have decided against circ for our boy because of the research that I've done more recently. Had DD been a boy we likely would have circ'ed just because I would have let DH be the sole decision-maker on that at the time. My decision was made before reading the article Ariel posted, and based on the fact that it's cosmetic and medically unnecessary. That is all the information I need to decide NOT to put my child through that kind of pain when he can't even be properly anesthesized.

However, I do understand that some families choose differently and they have that right. I know there are people out there who do have medical reasons for it. I don't judge anyone else for making a different choice that what we make.

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I have a question that I'm not sure if any of you can answer (I thought someone on the board said their DH wasn't circumcised). DH came in while I was taking a bath the other night and he goes "I have another reason why he's going to get circumcised...do you remember so and so? He's apparently not circumcised, and he said that whenever he begins to have sex, it hurts his penis." I told him that's all the more reason to not get DS done because then it will turn him off to sex! LOL!

But in all seriousness, have any of you heard of that happening?

I'm still not totally convinced on the subject (hey I still have like 2 months left!) and DH is dead set on having it done. I'm just not convinced.

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"KET_2010" wrote:

I have a question that I'm not sure if any of you can answer (I thought someone on the board said their DH wasn't circumcised). DH came in while I was taking a bath the other night and he goes "I have another reason why he's going to get circumcised...do you remember so and so? He's apparently not circumcised, and he said that whenever he begins to have sex, it hurts his penis." I told him that's all the more reason to not get DS done because then it will turn him off to sex! LOL!

My DH was circumcised as an adult, after he had been with his first wife, un-circ'ed ... So I just explained this situation and asked him his thoughts, and he said that the only time that was a problem was when his first wife insisted on *rough* activities, without any preparation or lubrication. That should be enough detail to explain the problem. Until then, he had never had problems, and he misses having that part of himself.

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I've never heard of it being an issue before. That guy may have had an infection or things are properly lubricated when he first starts having sex. I think it speaks more to his skill (or lack of) than anything to do with circumcision. None of the men in my family are circumcised. When I first started seriously thinking about this decision, I had a long discussion with my brother about how he felt being uncircumcised. He is dead set against it and has never had a single issue with being circumcised. If you are researching this I can give you some info I've read about it, and I'm sure others can too. I read both the pro positions and the cons

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I didn't read, I made my decision when I had ds and we'll keep them the same. Funny though when my ob at the time asked me and I said no she basically said "oh good now I don't have to talk to you about the cons" I think though that you'd still get drs who push and some who push not to.

I didn't want to hijack so I posted my story from the other day in a new post

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"AnnaRO" wrote:

I've never heard of it being an issue before. That guy may have had an infection or things are properly lubricated when he first starts having sex. I think it speaks more to his skill (or lack of) than anything to do with circumcision.

Lol I was thinking about that too! I figured he must be doing it wrong or something because I hadn't ever heard of that either.

And Anna, that'd be great of you could send me that info. I really wanna read up on it! Thank you!

jhj
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My partner is also intact... and there has never been a problem here! TMI from here... The only thing I can think of is once in a while if he is fully retracted when we start he will just pause and pull it up a bit.. but I can't see how this is any different than if he were circ'ed except that he wouldn't be able to fix it so easily.

Living in this part of Canada where 95% of boys are not circ'ed and those that are are done strictly for religious reasons it is really interesting to listen people struggle over this procedure which is such a non-issue in our house. We both feel if you wouldn't circ a girl, then you shouldn't circ a boy.

Heather

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"KET_2010" wrote:

I have a question that I'm not sure if any of you can answer (I thought someone on the board said their DH wasn't circumcised). DH came in while I was taking a bath the other night and he goes "I have another reason why he's going to get circumcised...do you remember so and so? He's apparently not circumcised, and he said that whenever he begins to have sex, it hurts his penis." I told him that's all the more reason to not get DS done because then it will turn him off to sex! LOL!

But in all seriousness, have any of you heard of that happening?

I'm still not totally convinced on the subject (hey I still have like 2 months left!) and DH is dead set on having it done. I'm just not convinced.

I've never heard of this either in the absence of another issue (like infection). The foreskin is filled with thousands of tiny nerve endings, so circ'ing actually reduces sensation. There have been studies done that show that the foreskin actually serves a purpose in both male and female pleasure when DTD. I have a couple of friends who's DHs are intact, and they say they have never experienced the chafing or skin irritation during sex like I know I have at times.

I've got quite a bit of material on circ'ing if you want to PM me your email address I can send it to you. I've got them in PDF format, so I don't think I can send through PM.

ETA: This subject really struck a chord with me when we had our son b/c my DH is circ'd and has little sensation compared to other experiences I have had Wink (TMI) It takes him a LOT of stimulation before he can orgasm. It almost got in the way of our marriage while TTC because I felt like I wasn't good enough or that I was doing something wrong. Well, come to find out it could simply be that his circ damaged some of the nerve endings making him not as sensitive. A penis grows a LOT from infancy to adulthood, so I don't see how they can circ a small baby and do it with a high level of accuracy, kwim? But that is just my personal experience. Our DS is 1.5 and we have never had ANY issues at all with him being intact. No infections, no irritations, nothing. The worst he had was a terrible rash when he had chickenpox, but that is totally unrelated. He hasn't even had any diaper rashes other than that.

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I agree, informed consent is so important and so often parents have no idea they are not really being informed!