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Colic???

So from day 1, Henry has been a fussbutt. His pediatrician has twice referred to him a fussbox. He screams and screams unless he has a boob in his mouth. He does a lot of comfort nursing, which I think is giving him gas.

We have tried the happiest baby on the block, none of it works. NONE of it!!! We have tried the car, the vacuum, the dryer. Nope screams his head off. I have put him in all of my baby carriers which he likes for like 10 minutes.

I can't nurse him every 5 minutes, my nips are cracked, bleeding and feel like knives are stabbing them. I'm using my natural birthing breathing techniques to get thru feedings/comfort nursing. His latch is really pretty good though, I've been working with an LC and she agrees. I just think he is on the boob too much.

So his witching hours are between 2pm and 9pm. He will scream non stop during this time. BUT...at night, he sleeps thru the night. He slept 7 hours last night and I tried to wake him to feed and he wouldn't have it..just kept sleeping. I figured since he is nursing 7 hours straight, I might as well let him sleep thru the night. What do you ladies think?

Mornings are ok too. He usually eats every 2 hours between 6am and 2pm...then by afternoon he turns into a pirana baby.

Here's something else. His right shoulder pops sometimes...its creepy. I'm thinking of taking im to the chiro.

I know its too early to diagnose as colic but 7 hours of non stop crying baby has me worried. Its the kind of cry where he won't let air into his lungs.

Any advice mommas? Sorry I haven't been on here as much. This mom stuff is hard. Plus my dad had 2 heart attacks today, that makes his 3rd and 4th heart attack. We are all really scared. I tried to go up to the hospital to visit and the nurses freaked out that I had a newborn with me. I figured in the cardio wing he wouldn't be at risk, but they asked me to leave bc it wasn't safe. So I gave Henry to my husband, who doesn't have boobs and lil man just cried the whole time I was with my dad.

Ugh sorry I'm a mess. Any advice on the baby stuff is greatly appreciated.

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1. MEGA hugs to you.. :bigarmhug: Parenting has GOT to be the hardest job in the world!! Hands. Down.

"eliann" wrote:

So from day 1, Henry has been a fussbutt. His pediatrician has twice referred to him a fussbox. He screams and screams unless he has a boob in his mouth. He does a lot of comfort nursing, which I think is giving him gas.

We have tried the happiest baby on the block, none of it works. NONE of it!!! We have tried the car, the vacuum, the dryer. Nope screams his head off. I have put him in all of my baby carriers which he likes for like 10 minutes.

2. When Liliana would not calm down from colic, I would line a laundry basket with a ton of blankets, lay her in it and put it on top of the dryer. Now this dryer was an old rickety thing my mom had but the vibrations worked wonders.. I'm not sure if you were using the dryer for white noise or vibrations but I would try the vibrations route if you haven't.

I can't nurse him every 5 minutes, my nips are cracked, bleeding and feel like knives are stabbing them. I'm using my natural birthing breathing techniques to get thru feedings/comfort nursing. His latch is really pretty good though, I've been working with an LC and she agrees. I just think he is on the boob too much.

So his witching hours are between 2pm and 9pm. He will scream non stop during this time. BUT...at night, he sleeps thru the night. He slept 7 hours last night and I tried to wake him to feed and he wouldn't have it..just kept sleeping. I figured since he is nursing 7 hours straight, I might as well let him sleep thru the night. What do you ladies think?

Personally? My advice would be to let him sleep.. If there's no concern about his weight, let him sleep when he wants to, let him eat when he wants to. He will let you know what he wants and when he wants it. Trying to live life off a schedule is gonna kill ya. Let him help make things easier by following HIS schedule. Wink

Mornings are ok too. He usually eats every 2 hours between 6am and 2pm...then by afternoon he turns into a pirana baby.

ROFL I'm sorry but that was funny! ROFL

Here's something else. His right shoulder pops sometimes...its creepy. I'm thinking of taking im to the chiro.

I know its too early to diagnose as colic but 7 hours of non stop crying baby has me worried. Its the kind of cry where he won't let air into his lungs.

Any advice mommas? Sorry I haven't been on here as much. This mom stuff is hard. Plus my dad had 2 heart attacks today, that makes his 3rd and 4th heart attack. We are all really scared. I tried to go up to the hospital to visit and the nurses freaked out that I had a newborn with me. I figured in the cardio wing he wouldn't be at risk, but they asked me to leave bc it wasn't safe. So I gave Henry to my husband, who doesn't have boobs and lil man just cried the whole time I was with my dad.

Ugh sorry I'm a mess. Any advice on the baby stuff is greatly appreciated.

I'm so so SOOO sorry to hear about your dad.. Sad You definitely have my thoughts and prayers for his health and healing, friend! I know that has to be stressing you out. Sad

Could it be possible he has some gas? Watch his little legs and if he seems to be kicking them (Bram looks like he's trying to ride a bicycle) he could have some gas.. there's gas drops that are safe to use each feeding if it's an issue. With Bram, after he eats, I lay him on his left side in my arms and rub his tummy.. if I feel rumbling, I know he's struggling with gas and will need some drops to help with the toots and poops.

Another thing to think about.. stress. With all you mentioned above, there's no way you're NOT under a measurable amount of stress.. Little Henry man feels that through the vibes you sub-consciously put off. He feeds off you.. I know it's not easy, but try to take some deep breaths and let everything else go to the back of your mind when you're focusing on him.. He may be more relaxed in turn!

Hang in there, ladybug. Being a mama is hard work. :bigarmhug:

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I'm so sorry Elizabeth! My first baby was a cranky little man and I almost lost it on many occasions with him. It's really, really hard. Make sure you have someone to talk to or that you at least come on here to vent. I'm sorry that nothing is working for him. I would think the happiest baby stuff would help a little. When is your next pediatrician appt? I'm just wondering if there isn't a medical issue here, like reflux or a food allergy. I hope you get some relief soon, but know us BTDT moms understand. Hugs!

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Quinn was like that. And it did start early. I think I noticed he wasn't quite like his sister at the hospital, and the full on colic started a few days later. The projectile vomiting came a little later, so watch out for that. If he was awake, he was screaming.

The only way to get him to sleep was to swaddle him tightly, shush really loudly in his ear, and swing him in my arms with a big pendulum motion. We were at least rewarded with a baby who STTN, but he didn't really stop being colicy until he was crawling at about 9 months old.

The pedi did put him on zantac drops, which helped the vomiting and reflux issue. Have you noticed anything with your diet that makes him cry more than others? It may be worth keeping a food log to compare to his episodes.

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I'm sorry you're having such a rough time with Henry. I have those drops Adriana was talking about. They don't last a long time, but they're helpful immediately. They help Julie fall asleep. She's had horrible gas lately and it makes me wonder how much ISN'T coming out. I would definitely definitely definitely let your baby sleep when he wants to sleep.

I hope your dad comes through with flying colors. ((((HUGE HUGS))))

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I don't have any experience with colic personally but a friend did and it was like within a week home from hospital and she held off for weeks until it was misery. She just thought it was normal baby stuff until she left him with her mom one day and her mom said this baby is in pain from reflux and colic and once on meds made thins so much better.

We have gas issues too and use mylicon drops. Helps a lot usually

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Oh my goodness, I hope you dad is okay. :bighug:

My first was really cranky and it's so hard! You're doing a great job.
Do you give him a pacifier? My first would scream constantly unless he was nursing. I was dead on my feet by the time his 5-day appointment rolled around. I had put off the paci because I was worried about BFing getting established, but he was gaining weight like crazy so I finally tried it. I won't say it was magic, but it really helped with the constant nursing. He was still clingy and had sleep issues until 24 months. With the others I just gave the pacifier in the hospital (after the first few nursing sessions) and it made things much easier. But, I know some parents don't like to use one.

The sleep sounds amazing. I wouldn't wake him up as long as he's gaining weight fine.

Good luck! hang in there, it gets easier.

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We have tried a pacifer. He takes it for about 2 minutes and continues to scream. I have to say today has been a tad bit better. I do think it might be gas related, because I myself am gassy. Not sure what in my diet is causing that.

I've had better success with the moby today. Thank god, that thing is a nipple saver!

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We have tried a pacifer. He takes it for about 2 minutes and continues to scream. I have to say today has been a tad bit better. I do think it might be gas related, because I myself am gassy. Not sure what in my diet is causing that.

I've had better success with the moby today. Thank god, that thing is a nipple saver!

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hmm... hopefully it's gas and you'll get it under control. If you want him to take a pacifier you may have to try a few brands. My oldest only wanted the avent brand, middle wanted his thumb, and the youngest like the soothies from the hosp.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with colic. I've been there with DD. She ended up being intolerant of dairy products. That usually doesn't show up until 3-4 weeks though so probably not that. I'd baby wear as much as possible during the 2-9pm time frame & I'd start a food diary that includes when you and he are gassy, you might find a pattern. move his legs around like he's riding a bicycle will help with gas. You can also try keeping him upright much as possible while sleeping. wear him during naps, use the swing or a rock n/play so that he's a bit elevated on his head. You can also put something UNDER the mattress to elevate the end where his head is. All of that would help if he has reflux issues.

Hang in there!!!

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Gross question but what does his poop look like? I think I had a fore milk/hind milk imbalance because Reid's poop got to be green and runny and he was a total crank. I think it happened because I wasn't nursing much of my right side because I had a cracked nipple and it hurt. So my left side was getting all of the action which was probably causing it to amp up the milk production meaning more foremilk before he got to the hind milk, and then when I *would* nurse on the right side it was super full from going a while between nursing, so again, too much foremilk before he could get the hind milk. That kind of imbalance is supposed to cause painful gas, really frequent nursing, fussiness, and green watery poop. I have been more careful about block nursing since I figured it out, and his poops are mustardy and he's calmer, so I think it's working. Just curious if, since you mentioned your nips are cracked, maybe you are doing the same thing and not nursing Henry in a way that helps him get the hind milk he needs to feel satisfied and also to balance out his gas. Hope you get it figured out!

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His poops are yellow and mustardy. Some seedy, sometimes not. A LC spent 3 hours with me today. She showed me some new things that might help him get more satisfied at his feedings. His latch on my left side is not great, and so my nip on that side is super sore. She also saw what i was talking about with the fussiness. He will feed for sometimes 40 minutes on each side and the moment he wakes up he starts doing hunger cues again and then screams. We went over the 5 s's. She got him to calm down for a total of 10 minutes...so I know its not just me. She thinks a chiropractic adjustment might help resolve any gas/labor trama issues. Did I mention that his right shoulder pops a lot? Its super freaky.

Anyway, going to call the chiro and pedi on monday. He literally screamed his head off from 8:30am to 3pm unless he was being fed. He is asleep now.

Oh and I have been having shooting pains from my nipples to deep into my breast and the LC mentioned it could be the beginning stages of thrush. But that it could also be let down. Henry doesn't have a white tongue though. So hoping its not.

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So I gave Henry to my husband, who doesn't have boobs and lil man just cried the whole time I was with my dad.

That part about your DH not having boobs had me giggling. Smile

I was going to say it could be a food intolerance/allergy, gas like others are saying or just colic. My friend had a colicy baby and he was just like that for the first couple months. It was hard for them because it was their first too but they got through it.
And yes, try different pacis. My first like the Soothie, second liked the Nuk and this one likes the MAM. Try ones with different nipples.
Hugs mama, I know you waited so long to get him here and now he's a crank!

Just saw your new post; do you think he is getting enough milk? If he is nursing that much and still acting hungry, it might be a supply issue. That will take time though to see if he is gaining weight. If he is having 6-8 wet diapers a day and his poop is yellow then that's a good sign though.
Yeah, the chiro sounds like a good option.
And for me, let down feels like a burning/tingling sensation that starts at the back of my boobs and goes toward my nipples, not the other way around.

anyway keep us posted on what you find out!

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you know, my boys had popping shoulders as newborns, too. It's really weird. It never caused them any problems, though.

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Did the Lactation Nurse weigh him before and after a feeding to see if he was getting in a full feeding? DS had a crappy latch and was a lazy nurser and would do the same, stay on all day but never seem satisfied.

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Joan she didnt weigh him. But that could be happening. Im thinking it could be a supply issue, because today I have more milk than usual and he seems to be more satisfied. We also started doing baby massages at diaper changes to help with gas and it seems to be helping. Still taking him to the chiro tomorrow. Today has been good Wink

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the way I knew it was my supply is because tte baby will nurse and nurse and pop off and cry. and then keep switching sides and the same thing. that happened one night with Judah and we ended up giving formula because I was having a break down. sounds like its not as bad for you though. hopefuuly all of the things you're doing will help.

oh and of course a huge indicator is wet diapers and weight gain.