Question about mat leave..

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Question about mat leave..

I have a doc appt tomorrow at 10, so I'll definitely ask while I'm there, but...just wondering if you ladies have an input on this:

My work has FMLA. 12 weeks of UNPAID leave and they guarantee your job. I also have short term disability through work - which offers 60% pay while I'm out on maternity leave. I called up the company that handles short term disability about a week ago and set my "going out date" on the 4th. A day before I'm due. But these past couple of days have been HORRIBLE at work. I can hardly walk it hurts SO BAD. Not just from the baby being on the bladder, but my hoo-hah is still killing me. OB said it was "probably" varicose veins, but she didn't look. DH took a look and said he didn't see anything different (I know that's probably TMI), but it really hurts on the outside, like right between the folds.

ANYWAY, my boss is fine with me going out after I finish training this girl. That'd be the week of the 10th of March. So, essentially, a month before Im due. I don't WANT to go out that early, BUT...here's my question (finally)...

If the doctor takes me out early - do I still get the six weeks of maternity leave AFTER the baby is born? My boss seemed to think the short term disability (which is 6 months max I think) would kick in for the time before the baby is born and mat leave would be after the baby is born, but I'd still get the 60% pay for all of it, as long as the doctor took me out early.

And..on top of that, if the doctor does not take me out early, how early can I go out on short term disability by myself? Like, could I go out the last week of March and it not count against those 6 weeks?

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I think it depends upon your Short term disability policy and your FMLA policy at work. Is there a human resources person you can talk to at your work, or call at another location?

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dp grr!!

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I used to work HR so I can try to help. Smile

FMLA - 12 weeks of job coverage without any changes in salary or position. It starts on the day you leave work until exactly 12 weeks later. If you take 4 weeks off before the baby, you'll get up to 8 weeks after she's born for job security. Please note - this has NOTHING to do with ACTUAL medical leave!!

Short term disability - what you'll get paid for while you're off. STD is 26 weeks. Then it kicks in to Long Term Disability (generally reserved for severe on the job injury type scenarios).

One thing I will tell you - unless there's a reason for bed rest or an issue with the baby, the dr won't typically sign off on your medical leave papers for you to start leave early. They have to have a medical reason.. it's CRAZY what health care has come to. Sad

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Pretty much same thing but my cousin just had horrible issues with her short term disability for her mat leave. Even after it was all set it took weeks to get paid which she finally did. I also agree that docs are usually not easy to sign you out. With teaching it is so different because we have fmla but use our sick days as maternity.

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Aimee - That's not all that uncommon.. Most companys will make you use all sick.. then vacation.. then personal days until you've exhausted all your paid time off.. THEN you go to STD. Crappy thing is when you come back and need to take a day off to take baby to the Dr or whatever, you have no paid time..

Sometimes companys will both stop vacation acrual AND make you pay your own medical insurance premiums because you don't have at "at least 30-32 hour work week". Which is just wrong, IMHO.

Sometimes I wish I lived in Canada.. you get one year, no questions asked. :sad11:

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Canada is cold. No thanks. LOL

I have to use one week of vacation time as the first week I'm off. Then STD kicks in. I guess I was just wondering if the doc took me out early, would that count towards the mat leave. But what I understand is this:

STD is covering my pay at 60% if I go out on a doc note - regardless of before/after baby. FMLA will cover my JOB for 12 weeks. So theoretically, if I were to go out TODAY - as long as I came back within 12 weeks, I'd be getting the 60% from STD. IF and only IF the doc found a reason for me to go out early. However, I'm not going to make it to my doc appt this morning. I was throwing up ALL night long. Super fun. DH turned off his alarm, so I guess it was a good thing I was up from puking - because he would have been late if I wouldn't have woken him up.

On another plus note - the heat pump is being installed Smile He knocked on the door at 8 o'clock!! WOOT! FINALLY!
On a bad note - he needed me to move the cars so he could get the trucks backed up in the driveway. I got in DH's truck - check engine light came on. I moved it, I mean it runs...but that light is a no good light. Then I got in the Camry - turned it on, it turns right back off. :rolleyes: I tried it like 3 times. DH got in it the other day to move it and it started and went just fine. NOT FOR ME! The heat guy was like...um..don't worry about it, when the rest of the crew gets here we'll just push it.

I just said...okay. Then kind of meekly went inside. UGH. My DH is a friggin MECHANIC. Kind of embarrassing to have non-running cars.

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I have no idea about any of this stuff. My company consists of 4 people, 2 being the owners, we get no benefits whatsoever. But I'm happy that Adriana has all sorts of good advice for you!

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Elizabeth - are they gonna let you take off for the baby? Some states have rules & regulations (like California has awesome ones) when FMLA won't kick in because the company is too small.

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Yes its a small company and they are very flexible with me. So even though they don't have official benefits, they will let me have up to 12 weeks off. Unpaid of course. But I will take it. No short term disability. I have an afflac sickness policy on my own and my own insurance policy (which doesn't cover any maternity costs or the birth), but I wish now that I had signed up for the afflac short term disability. Oh well. Too late. Next time.

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"babywings1" wrote:

Canada is cold. No thanks. LOL

I have to use one week of vacation time as the first week I'm off. Then STD kicks in. I guess I was just wondering if the doc took me out early, would that count towards the mat leave. But what I understand is this:

STD is covering my pay at 60% if I go out on a doc note - regardless of before/after baby. FMLA will cover my JOB for 12 weeks. So theoretically, if I were to go out TODAY - as long as I came back within 12 weeks, I'd be getting the 60% from STD. IF and only IF the doc found a reason for me to go out early. However, I'm not going to make it to my doc appt this morning. I was throwing up ALL night long. Super fun. DH turned off his alarm, so I guess it was a good thing I was up from puking - because he would have been late if I wouldn't have woken him up.

Correct. Smile
Day 1 - Day 7 of off work for medical reasons = This is your "wait week". You use sick / vacation etc to fill in the pay gap here.
Day 8 - Day 84 (12 weeks) - you will get 60% of your base/gross pay minus taxes.

:clappy: I'm getting excited that things are on the move! Can you believe it's almost March 1st - which is almost your month!?!? OMG! :shock: Lol

On another plus note - the heat pump is being installed Smile He knocked on the door at 8 o'clock!! WOOT! FINALLY!
On a bad note - he needed me to move the cars so he could get the trucks backed up in the driveway. I got in DH's truck - check engine light came on. I moved it, I mean it runs...but that light is a no good light. Then I got in the Camry - turned it on, it turns right back off. :rolleyes: I tried it like 3 times. DH got in it the other day to move it and it started and went just fine. NOT FOR ME! The heat guy was like...um..don't worry about it, when the rest of the crew gets here we'll just push it.

I just said...okay. Then kind of meekly went inside. UGH. My DH is a friggin MECHANIC. Kind of embarrassing to have non-running cars.

Lol Aweee - at least he'll be able to fix it! How old is your Camery? I know those things are BEASTS and can usually keep going and going! Hope it's nothing big.. but WOO-FLIPPIN-HOO for them FINALLY fixing your heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biggrin

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Jessica - Sorry that you were so sick last night. Sad I hope that you are feeling better today. :woohoo: for getting your heat finally fixed at least!!!!

I don't know much about maternity leave other than my own company's policies, so I'm glad that Adriana can help with some of that, and I definitely think you should talk to your HR rep.

I just wanted to add that I agree that unfortunately (unfortunately if you need a note from your doc to get time off paid) most doctors won't sign off on medical leave very easily unless there is a real valid medical reason for it. I had to go to the hospital to get my doctor to say that I should probably stop flying, let alone go on some sort of leave. LOL!!!

That's why I really think you should find out what accommodations they can make for you for the physical parts of your job. The part where you are sitting at your desk doing paperwork probably isn't much harder on your body than sitting on your own couch, but I'm sure that bending and lifting are getting to be a total pain by now. They are probably waiting for you to tell them what you can and can't do on that front, so I think it's time to tell them that for this last month it is too difficult for you to do anything that requires lifting or getting down on the floor or things like that. Surely they are willing to accommodate you for that stuff - again, what would they do if you broke your leg? Sure, you might go on vacation for a week or two if you broke your leg, but when you came back you would still have physical limitations until it was healed. They have to have some sort of plan in place for stuff like that, you would think. It doesn't hurt to ask anyway.

Elizabeth - That sucks that you have to take the whole 12 weeks unpaid, although good that at least they are letting you go out.

I'm another one that wishes we were more like Canada - one year off, paid. I wish!

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"eliann" wrote:

Yes its a small company and they are very flexible with me. So even though they don't have official benefits, they will let me have up to 12 weeks off. Unpaid of course. But I will take it. No short term disability. I have an afflac sickness policy on my own and my own insurance policy (which doesn't cover any maternity costs or the birth), but I wish now that I had signed up for the afflac short term disability. Oh well. Too late. Next time.

You and I are in the same boat, girl.. Only 6 people here so.. Adriana? Meet short end of the stick. lol..

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Hey Jessica - To piggyback off a portion of Alissa's post, I have a printout from my OB that my HR dpt was asking about.. it's a list of what's ok to do to (activity wise) and up to what gestation! I can send it to you..

You should not be bending over.. lifting over 25 lbs etc. Let me know if you want that! It's by no means a law or rule that they HAVE to follow but if you provide them with it and something happens that is caused by a "recommended, restricted activity" there could be liability on their behalf.

Let me know. Smile

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Adriana - I would like that paper....even if it's just for me to glance over. The problem at my job is that my two bosses are men. One is my age, one is 43 or something like that. Neither have been married, neither have kids. So they really think I'm completely milking this being pregnant thing. The older one, he's the boss of the whole store - if I sat down with him seriously and talked to him, I think he'd be okay with someone else doing some aspects of my job, but I'm kinda scared to do that because ...if it gets to the point where I have my replacement trained - and I can't do some procedures that are specifically "mine" to do.. I'm a little concerned I won't be needed.

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Jessica I totally get your bosses not getting it. The owners of my firm are in their late 50's and never had kids. My boss sent me an email of the things he wants me to have done in the next 9 weeks (when I'm due). Little does he know that baby's don't always arrive on their due date. They are going to flip out when I go on maternity leave. They keep asking me if I'm interested in working part time, I'm like "umm no thanks." This is the only time I will have this much time with my son his entire life. I'm going to take it in full! Plus I know if I agreed to part time it would never work out, they would talk me into working more and staying late to finish the thing I was working on. I'm working about 60 hours per week right now and they have no sympathy for this preggo. BTW I have an awful cold today...I blame it on my work schedule.

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"ILoveMyMiniMe" wrote:

Sometimes I wish I lived in Canada.. you get one year, no questions asked. :sad11:

You can also be off for up to 15 weeks before baby on medical leave and you only need a doctor's note if it is more then 9 weeks before baby - might be worth the little bit of cold! Smile

(this is at 55% of your pay - and only up to a maximum salary - so if you make over something like $50,000 you only get 55% of the top salary, not your own. Still pretty nice!)

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"eliann" wrote:

Jessica I totally get your bosses not getting it. The owners of my firm are in their late 50's and never had kids. My boss sent me an email of the things he wants me to have done in the next 9 weeks (when I'm due). Little does he know that baby's don't always arrive on their due date. They are going to flip out when I go on maternity leave. They keep asking me if I'm interested in working part time, I'm like "umm no thanks." This is the only time I will have this much time with my son his entire life. I'm going to take it in full! Plus I know if I agreed to part time it would never work out, they would talk me into working more and staying late to finish the thing I was working on. I'm working about 60 hours per week right now and they have no sympathy for this preggo. BTW I have an awful cold today...I blame it on my work schedule.

HA! This is me exactly! I work as much.. and get suckered into working on days off etc.

I'm honestly scared of when I leave to have this littloe man.. when I was in the hospital on Monday, I was only gone for 5 hours. 5 HOURS!! and this place went to hell in a handbasket. :teethchatter:

DH says.. "What happens when you're gone is NOT your problem!"
True.. but guess who gets to clean up the mess when they get back. Grrr...

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"babywings1" wrote:

Adriana - I would like that paper....even if it's just for me to glance over. The problem at my job is that my two bosses are men. One is my age, one is 43 or something like that. Neither have been married, neither have kids. So they really think I'm completely milking this being pregnant thing. The older one, he's the boss of the whole store - if I sat down with him seriously and talked to him, I think he'd be okay with someone else doing some aspects of my job, but I'm kinda scared to do that because ...if it gets to the point where I have my replacement trained - and I can't do some procedures that are specifically "mine" to do.. I'm a little concerned I won't be needed.

Text me your email address and I'll forward it to ya. Smile

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I am a little behind in the posts but to go back the good thing about my days is I get 15 new sick and 3 personal every year so I really only have to make it 13 days without using a day from June 3-June 18 and then next September I began again.

I know Canada's policy sounds so nice but from what I have heard and working with people it is not all that great either. Mine is not bad I jut have ot use my days. I could go 10 days unpaid and be able to use the sick bank here but with only 13 days I need it seemed stupid to do that so I will come back.

Can you not sign up for Aflac now? I know my cousin signed up after she was pregnant and was able to get it.

I also think that companies regardless of who the boss is and what sex they are have to be accomodating for you and that they could face a lot mroe serious problems if not. They cannot let you go in any way from being pregnant regardless of what you are asking for so I would totally talk to them. For me right now I am working up to the day before my c-section.