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Beertje
09-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Well girls, I seem to be learning new things about fertility all the time. I went to an RE for the first time to discuss injectables. She sat with me for a VERY long time and walked me through everything. She was so helpful and put me at ease.

But what I learned is that there's another test out there, called 17-OHP, for those that have been previously diagnosed with PCOS. This tests to see if you have NCAH (Nonclassical Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia.) The symptoms are exactly the same as PCOS only most ob/gyn's don't test for it. If it comes out positive, it can be treated through medication called glucocorticoids. This also may reduce the need for any other fertility drug.

Anyway, I also asked about continuing with clomid along with injectables vs going with just injectables. She didn't feel very comfortable with the clomid, but said that she was willing to do Letrozole (Femara) as it has reduced length of time in one's body (20 days vs months for clomid), creates no cysts, nor does it harm the lining. It's typically used for breast cancer, but acts the same way as clomid, with a 8-10% risk of multiples.

I learned that with injectables, we as a couple have to take a class for almost 4 hours. Um, how long does it take to teach someone how to jab themselves or their partner with an injection pen? Anyway, when that is done, they'll submit requests into the insurance company which I guess can take up to a month. But if they approve sooner (hopefully mine will because I didn't see anywhere in my insurance documents that requires preauthorization for meds), then we may have a chance to get that started this round. I'm electing to take both femara and injectables because my patience with my body has worn thin.

She did caution that there's a 40% chance of twins, 4% chance of triplets and 1% of higher multiples. Works for me, I'm willing to take that chance. After all, the dr that delivered my youngest said I had the perfect birthing hips and I was built to have 10 kids. Course I could've slapped him at the time as he said that immediately after I delivered. Not what I wanted to hear at the time!

Since my RE is an hour away, she's also agreed to work with my ob/gyn for any lab tests or u/s, thank God! But I do need to go there for the 17-OHP test as well as the HSG test which I apparently had something similar to that done in January only they used a scanner instead of xray machine. Huh. So I get to go through those joys again. Looks like I'm in for a busy month as soon as af appears, hopefully not until 9/11. :/

melnzai
09-06-2007, 08:38 AM
Wow, that is a lot of info. I am surprised they are making you take a 4 hour class for injectables. I sat with the nurse for about 20 minutes and learned how to use the pen. With my other injectable, they just walked me through how to mix it and I talked to the pharmacist about it also. I am sure if I was doing IVF, I would need to take the class where your practice on oranges, but I am not sticking myself with that many meds.

Interesting news on the other test. Let us know how it turns out. I have wondered about PCOS myself, but my RE seems to think that is not my issue. He looked at everything, so I trust him.

mommaphoebs
09-07-2007, 10:35 AM
I'm glad you're getting more info and help. Every variation in treatment gives you new chances of success.
As for the Femara, I've done both Clomid and now Femara, and I much prefer it. I don't have the hot flashes and mood swings which is wonderful. My RE said he has better success with it too.
If you have any questions let me know!

mimish
09-07-2007, 02:22 PM
I like your RE.. i really respect those who sit and actually explain everything to you.. my old RE would just sit and write prescription of injectables and i try to ask my questions very quickly since she has lots of patients waiting to see her

goodluck hon with the test.. keep us posted!

Beertje
09-07-2007, 06:26 PM
Thanks guys... With the femara, did they start you over on low doses or around where you left off with clomid? I didn't have any confirmed O's until I was at 250. If they start me out low, I'm gonna bug her about making sure I get injectables at the same time. I can't believe that I am hoping that my af comes late this cycle - between 9/11-9/13 cuz then it'd be timed perfectly for my appointments and tests without extra time off work and drive time.

mommaphoebs
09-07-2007, 10:16 PM
I've been on 5mg of Femara the whole time. On Clomid, I was at the lowest dosage, I forget what that was, but that was just from my reg. doc. I didn't O until I was on Femara, and it worked the first month! It's about the same price too.

Beertje
09-10-2007, 04:08 PM
5 mg sounds awfully low. The first round of clomid is usually at 50 mg, but I'm at the top at 250. Because of that, I have my doubts the lower dosages of femara would work. I just hope I get my af between tomorrow and Thursday so we can get the show on the road!

mommaphoebs
09-10-2007, 04:49 PM
They are two totally different drugs, so I guess that's the reason for the difference in dosages. Also, it is technically not a 'fertility' drug, but a cancer drug, so I'm sure they aren't going to put you at a high dosage. It must be a stronger drug too, since the dosage I'm on is what they give to cancer patients. Whatever the dosage though, it works!

Beertje
09-12-2007, 10:12 PM
I just want a higher dosage than the baseline along with the injectables. I guess I'm just getting very impatient with the waiting. I really want September to be my month. I'm getting so frustrated because once again, my cycle is late. It's been like this since my m/c in July... grrrrrrrrrrr@my body!

mommaphoebs
09-13-2007, 10:51 AM
I just want a higher dosage than the baseline along with the injectables. I guess I'm just getting very impatient with the waiting. I really want September to be my month. I'm getting so frustrated because once again, my cycle is late. It's been like this since my m/c in July... grrrrrrrrrrr@my body!

I understand. I just don't know if a doctor would give a higher dosage when it is still not officially a fertility drug. It helped to even out my cycles, so hopefully it will do the same for you. I SO understand your frustration though! Grrrrrrrrr @ all our bodies!!

melnzai
09-13-2007, 11:25 AM
I just want a higher dosage than the baseline along with the injectables. I guess I'm just getting very impatient with the waiting. I really want September to be my month. I'm getting so frustrated because once again, my cycle is late. It's been like this since my m/c in July... grrrrrrrrrrr@my body!


:bighug: Have you gotten any more news about the test you had done?

Beertje
09-13-2007, 10:37 PM
Well my af hasn't appeared yet, so I haven't been able to do any tests or hsg. Hopefully it'll appear this weekend to go in on Monday. The witch is mean... she shows up when you don't want her to, but then stays away when you want her to visit! Argh!!!!