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*~*Amber_Daisy's (Amber) birthing lodge!! (prenatal)*~*

Welcome to your lodge!!! Yahoo

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Woohoo! December Mums are taking over! Biggrin

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Yay for your lodge, chick! I will be stalking you!! Biggrin

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Oh wow!.....I guess there's no denying it anymore huh?

I'll probably post an intro tomorrow. I have a few things to do around the house before DH gets home. He's been in Ontario for the last week and a half! (I'm SO relieved that he's getting in tonight! )

Oh, and thanks for starting my lodge for me chicky. Geez...pretty soon it'll be time for the January moms! :shock:

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woo hoo! you've almost made it Amber! Seems like the time has just flown by!!!

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settling in with my cup o' tea... Wink

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I can't believe you have a lodge already!! Wow! Can't wait for your intro.

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Congrats!!

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Congrats on the lodge! Hope you are feeling well?

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Well, ladies, now that DH is safely back on the Rock, and is currently heading off to work, I have some time! Smile

If you haven't already guessed, I'm Amber! I'm 27, married to DH Steve, who's 32. We met at Memorial University here in Newfoundland when I was 19. I liked his bum and he liked mine. I also liked that he tried to impress me by learning my favourite Dave Matthews Band song on guitar. We were engaged less than 3 months later (taking everyone by surprise), and we got married about 2 1/2 years after that in 2002.

Since I couldn't figure out what to do with my Neuroscience degree, and Steve was trying to get back to school to finish his Chemistry degree, things were tight for a while, and we decided that it would be a while before we started a family. Then, in 2005 I graduated from nursing school and got a job as an RN and Steve got a job last fall with his Chemistry degree. Things are still tight, but we're getting a handle on them. We both have massive student loans to pay off, but we figured it was as good a time as any! We had some issues to deal with first. I was on epival for bipolar disorder (type 2) and it's a class D drug. My family doc did not want me weaning from it, but after doing weeks of research, I decided that it was the best thing for me and we came up with a six week schedule to wean from it. I took my last dose December 12th and got my BFP Feb 4th, our second cycle TTC. I m/c'd on Feb 20th at 6 weeks. We were heartbroken, and we still think about that baby every day. But we decided that we would TTC again ASAP, so I started charting again. After AF we started TTC again and we got pregnant that cycle! Smile The first tri was incredibly nerve-wracking, but this one stuck, and here I am!

I've had a fairly healthy pregnancy thus far. I did have some major back pain around 10-14 weeks, and couldn't sleep, so I got the occupational health doctor to order that I work night shifts, which helped a lot. Then around 20 weeks I started having major issues with 'roids. At 22 weeks I had minor surgery to have the offending bugger removed, however it was much more than I bargained for. It didn't help that the surgeon had no idea about treating a pregnant patient, and sent me home telling me to take tylenol for pain. (They usually give IV morphine for this surgery.) It took me until about 30 weeks to completely heal from that. Since then I've been doing really well. I'm not overly uncomfortable. I've had heartburn all of twice (and both times was pretty well self-induced). I have no swelling. My BP hasn't been an issue. I've gained about 10-12 lbs thus far (I've actually found it hard to gain).

Oh, as for the doctor issue, my old GP kept pushing me to go back on the epival (even though my psychiatrist disagreed) and I was not happy with how she treated me after the m/c, so I found another GP who I love to pieces. She saw me through to 28 weeks (she doesn't do deliveries) and then I had an appointment with an OB. At my first appointment with this OB, he berated me for declining the GTT (while examining and measuring my belly) and I never went back. My GP arranged for me to transfer care to another GP in the area that does do deliveries and I've been with Dr. D ever since. She's fabulous. She works at a teaching clinic, so I meet with both her and her family practice resident at every appointment. She agreed with me on the GTT issue and was horrified at how the OB treated me. She's also quite negotiable regarding the GBS swab (which is coming up next week...not sure yet if we're doing it or not). Anywho, that's for another post, I'm sure....

Oh, I should probably add that I'm using Hypnobabies! Smile I really do like the course and got over my initial "this is cheesy" reaction. Lol I'm moving on to Week 4 of the course today (I'm a wee bit behind). I'm really looking forward to seeing how it works in the moment. I was originally planning on having a midwife at the birth as a support person (midwifery isn't legal here), but those plans didn't work out. I was thinking about hiring a doula as well, but we're only allowed 2 support persons in the labor and delivery unit, and I really want my mom to be there. It's been a difficult decision, and I'm hoping it's the right one. I'm sending my mom some reading so that she'll be prepared, hopefully, when the time comes.

Well, if you've gotten through all that, you deserve a cookie! I'll try to be less verbose from now on!

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Where's my cookie?! That's a great intro. Welcome to your lodge, and I look forward to hearing more. I'm so impressed with how you knew to go with your gut and find the right practioner for you.

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Whee! i have a hard time catching up on lodges that have tons of posts... I'm excited to start stalking the new ones! I'm interested to hear how you like hypnobabies. Smile

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Loved your intro. I'm really pleased to hear that you swapped doctors so many times until you found the right one for you. That's something that really bothers me now, that a lot of women seem to think they have no choice.

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Congrats on your lodge! and thanks for the intro!

I remember when you were having to go through all of the 'roids problems - it sounded so horrible. I'm so glad that you feel fine now!

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Congrats on your lodge!! I didn't know you had a Neuroscience degree, that is interesting. I have a biology degree, but all the time I have worked it has been in a Neuro lab with primates and humans. I love Neuroscience too!!!

Glad you are feeling good. You have such a great attitude, and not much longer to go!!

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36 week appointment

I didn't stick this in my intro since I figured that was already long enough! Lol Then I typed this up and it's almost as bad (or perhaps even worse)!

I had my 36 weeks appointment this morning. DH got in from Ontario very last night (was there for 11 days for training) and decided to take the morning off, so he got to come with me and meet Dr. D and her resident. Smile The appointment went very well. I brought along 2 copies of my Birth Preferences (or Birth Plan). If you're familiar with hypnobabies, it's very much along the same lines as the one in Lesson 3.

Most of it she had absolutely no issue with, and is her usual MO. She doesn't do continuous EFM unless mom has an epi or is on pitocin, and even then, she suggests using the telemetry monitor. She's fine with trying natural methods of oxytocin stimulation before suggesting Pitocin to augment labour (though she did ask first to see what I meant by "natural methods"). Lol She is on-board with using mother-directed pushing and giving birth in whatever position I find most comfortable. Smile She also mentioned that she doesn't do episiotomies. There have been occasions where she has felt she had to do one when the mom has been tearing too close to the rectum, or if the baby's heartrate has been low for way too long, but she said that those are few and far between, and usually happen with moms who have epi's anyways. Oh, and she's good with me refusing the eye ointment for the baby! Smile I'm surprised at that, but she told me that she's on some committee that's looking at those issues and they're actually considering changing the policy about the eye gunk, so that they only treat for active infection in the mom. (Part of the concern over the overuse of antibiotics.) So, she's going to test me for gonorhea and chlamydia next week (just a swab) which I know will be negative, and then we can avoid that nasty stuff!

A couple of her issues are with the "hydrating myself with water and juice." Given that she's likely not going to be there during most of my labour, it would sort of be asking the nurses to knowingly go against policy, and with her signing it, it would be like her suggesting that they go against policy. So I'm taking that part out, and will still hydrate myself as I see fit, but only when the nurse leaves the room. Wink She asked about the pitocin shot with the birth of the baby, and why I wanted to decline that. It's something she feels is necessary (it's her understanding that *if* there is a bleeding problem, and IM injection works too slowly and they have to go to IV pit or even greater measures), but is going to look up some stuff on that before the next appointment. (It's not a HUGE sticking point with me anyways, and if she does the research and still feels it's necessary, I'm pretty sure I will agree to it. She's very much into evidence-based care. So we'll see what she comes up with!) She also wanted to know why I'd decline the vitamin K for the baby. (My reasoning behind that is a big long to explain). It's her understanding that it's moreso to prevent early hemorrhagic disease of the newborn (as opposed to late) and the oral vitamin K wouldn't prevent that. But she's going to look up some more info on it this week and we'll talk about it again next week. Again, it's not a HUGE sticking point with me. If, after researching it, she's not overly comfortable, I'll probably consent to it as long as it can be delayed. And since she's advocating for newborn procedures to be delayed anyways, that won't be a problem.

So that part of the appointment went very well. Fundal height is measuring 37.5 weeks, which is a cm more than last week, so that's great. My diastolic BP was up to 90, which is up a bit for me. I think it's just because I didn't get much sleep last night, but they want to keep an eye on it. I have a BP cuff here at home, so I can track it pretty easily. My urine was clear - no protein at all. I'm up a lb from last week, and I don't have any swelling. Smile The resident did a vag swab to see if my YI is gone (considering I can't tell myself from symptoms). If it's not I'll just do another cycle of local treatment (she likes to stay away from the systemic stuff if she can).

Anywho, it was my longest appointment yet. Lasted about an hour! :shock: How many docs take that much time with their patients?! Smile I feel very lucky to have her.

***I forgot I didn't tell you ladies about my trip to L&D on Sunday! Lol While taking a nap on Sunday, I felt a leak. I got up and my undies were soaked. It wasn't a lot of fluid, but enough to make me consider that perhaps a had a slow leak of amniotic fluid. Given that I wasn't quite 36 weeks at the time, and Steve was away in another province AND the baby had been abnormally quiet for the last day or so, I decided to head in and get checked out, JIC. I called my friend Wendy (DH's standin while he was away) and she and her hubby carted me off to the hospital. They put me on the monitor. Dr. D got there about an hour later, and did a sterile spec and found the problem right away. I had a "whopping" YI. Weirdest freaking YI I've ever had! :shock: My only symptom is watery leakage! Anywho, I'm not ruptured! Smile But they decided to keep me on the monitor for another while because the baby was being REALLY quiet and there wasn't much variability in the h/r. There were also a couple of decels and no acels. So they kept feeding me popsicles and jostling my belly around to see if we could get the baby to perk up a bit. After being there for 4 hours, the baby started going nuts, and they released me. Then we went to Wendy's parents house for supper and her mom insisted I stay overnight because she didn't want me to be by myself. Smile So that's my false alarm story. Let's hope it's the last!

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"Mollyt17" wrote:

Congrats on your lodge! and thanks for the intro!

I remember when you were having to go through all of the 'roids problems - it sounded so horrible. I'm so glad that you feel fine now!

It WAS horrible! I wouldn't wish that pain on ANYBODY! I would seriously rather have chronic migraines again rather than what I went through during those weeks! I hope to God that's one family ailment that doesn't get passed down to the baby!

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"Mom22Boys2005" wrote:

Congrats on your lodge!! I didn't know you had a Neuroscience degree, that is interesting. I have a biology degree, but all the time I have worked it has been in a Neuro lab with primates and humans. I love Neuroscience too!!!

I graduated with my neuroscience degree in 2002. I minored in biology. At the time I was thinking about going to med school, but by the time I finished I realized that I didn't have the drive for that anymore. And I certainly didn't want to go on and do a masters or a PhD, which you really need to be able to do much with it. I ended up completing a Criminology certificate after I graduated (was toying with the idea of law school), and then the fast-track nursing program started. I could do a nursing degree in 2 years (it's normally a 4 year program) and be out and working, which is what I wanted. So I went that route. I currently work in rehab, so the neuroscience does help me in understanding my patients a lot better (mostly strokes, and spinal cord and head injuries). However, a lot of my neuroscience degree was spent doing human and child development courses, which I loved. We'll see how I get to incorporate that part of my education down the road, I guess. Smile

Oh, I'm entirely jealous that you've gotten to work with lab primates! I only ever got to work with rats! Lol

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It has been nice to meet you on your lodge through your intro. I will enjoy stalking it !

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What a great intro! How great that you have been able to find an OB that you seem to work so well with. I love that she is willing to research the information she is unsure about, instead of just working off her preformed beliefs. Congrats on your lodge and thank you for sharing your journey with us.

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It was awesome working with primates!! They are really stinky and nasty though, and ours were extremely well cared for.

I could have written what you wrote. I grad. in 2002 also, then just went to work in a lab while I decided what I wanted to do, because I no longer had the drive for Med school either. I need sleep too much for that, LOL. I settled on nursing school too, because it seemed like it wouldn't be very hard given my background, then we decided to have a baby. After he was born I never cared anymore about a career. Still don't. I suppose someday it will bite me, but I know I'll never regret the decision to SAH.

So what courses did you take that made you major Neuro apart from a bio degree? (Ummm OT much? Lol )

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"Mom22Boys2005" wrote:

So what courses did you take that made you major Neuro apart from a bio degree? (Ummm OT much? Lol )

Hehe...I suppose it's OK to jack my own lodge? Lol

Since behavioural neuroscience is the "science of behaviour", I had to take a lot more science courses than a regular psychology degree (which is the faculty behavioural neuroscience falls under). So, math, stats, physics, chemistry, biology, etc.... Silly me took phys chem my last year as a science elective and failed it (along with 70 % of the rest of the class...retook it my last semester and got a 75% and was able to graduate in time!) The main behavioural neuroscience courses were called "behavioural neuroscience" and "physiological psychology." We also had to do a selected topics course in behavioural neuroscience. Mine was on PTSD. And I'm still traumatized! Lol I also did a lot of psych courses.

I'm SO glad those years are done and over with!

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"KarlysKBug" wrote:

What a great intro! How great that you have been able to find an OB that you seem to work so well with. I love that she is willing to research the information she is unsure about, instead of just working off her preformed beliefs. Congrats on your lodge and thank you for sharing your journey with us.

Actually, she's a GP! Smile I feel so lucky that I actually have a doctor that into providing evidence-based care! Just talking with her about these things is so refreshing! My original family doctor refused to even look at the research I had found on bipolar disorder and pregnancy and the med I was taking. She had her mind made up and that was that. That pissed me off so much!

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OK, so I've done a little digging around on the sticking points in my birth preferences. One of the main issues is the IM oxytocin injection on the birth of the anterior shoulder. Dr. D thinks that holding off to see if it is truly needed is risky, because it could take too long to work if I'm already hemorhaging (why I can't spell that word, I have no idea). Anyways, the SOGC clearly recommends IM oxytocin within a minute of birth to prevent PPH. According to them, 22 people will receive the med unnecessarily in order to prevent one case of PPH. Also, according to them, it takes only 2-3 minutes to kick in. That seems fairly quick to me, considering most other meds I've given IM (as a nurse) usually take about 10-20 minutes to start working. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but if it is accurate, it's a good thing. I'm so confused! :roll: I obviously need to do some more digging around and probably check out the references the SOGC used.

I just wish I had more time to be doing all this. Seriously, I finished up work TWO WEEKS ago, but I've still been busy, busy, busy! Time is getting SO short, and I still have so much to do. At this point, I'm HOPING to go past my EDD. How often does anyone ever say that! Lol

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So stressed....

I don't even know where to begin.

First, I'm having trouble getting my record of employment (ROE) from work, and I need that to file for mat leave EI. The employee services department of HR is in upheaval right now, moving locations. I've called the ROE guy 3 days in a row now, and he has not returned a single call. I actually called his supervisor, and she clearly didn't comprehend the problem. I've never filed for EI before, so I didn't know the whole drill, and the HR consultant I was speaking to at work gave me shoddy instructions. She told me to request my ROE and apply for mat leave EI when my 5 weeks of annual leave are over. Good thing I was speaking with a Canada Services worker last week who told me I had to apply within 4 weeks of my LAST DAY OF ACTUAL WORK. So now I have to apply by the end of the week, or my EI application will be considered late, and my payments will end up being delayed. Which I REALLY can't afford.

Second, we moved out of our rental October 21st, and everything of ours was totally out by October 30th (the date we gave our landlord on our written notice). It is now December, and we're STILL waiting to receive our damage deposit back, along with reimbursements for a lawnmower and gardening supplies that we bought for the property on his request. The total is $723, which is not exactly chump change to us. We need that money to finish paying for baby stuff and pay off our credit cards so we can go into this with no credit card debt at all. He was supposed to be out at the rental property yesterday and DH was going to drop off the mower and get the cheque from him. Turns out, he wasn't even there, and didn't even call us to let us know (he lives out of town). Then, he told us he's come by our place today to pick up the lawnmower and give us our cheque, but it's after 5 PM and he still hasn't shown. He's been pulling this shit for over a month now, and I'm almost at the point of filing for a formal hearing with the Residential Tenancies Board...which I really don't have time for.

Third, we're having major neighbour issues. We live in a duplex. Our attached neighbours are 3 or 4 university students (all girls) who all have cars and boyfriend with cars....and ONE parking space. So they've taken to parking on our lawn...which now looks like a mud pit. Oh, and they've also taken to shoveling snow out into the street RIGHT BEHIND OUR VEHICLES. I called the police last night, and they said it was a city matter, so I called the city, and they said it was a personal matter. So today I looked up the city by-laws, and it IS a city matter, and I sent a formal complaint to them, quoting the exact by-laws in my letter. They're "looking into the matter." Oh, and as far as I know, destruction of personal property is a criminal code violation. I'm just so frustrated with it all. We only bought this place 2 months ago, and now it looks like absolute crap because of the lawn.

Fourth...my bum issues have returned with a vengeance. I've had a total of 3 hours sleep the past 2 nights because of the pain (and that's WITH pain meds).

Anywho, sorry for the whiny negative post. I'm just at the end of my rope with all of this. Sad

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Oh dear. Sad I'm sorry you're having such a tough time right now Amber. It sounds like you're doing your best to stay on top of things, not just letting things slide or people get away with stuff... that's great. I hope everything starts going your way.

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Hopefully in a few days all these bureaucracy hassles will just be fond memories. Till then, at least you got us. Smile

As for the 'roids ... omg. I would slice my own ass off. Seriously. It's not like the butt is a super-appreciated body part under the best of circumstances, but yours has really turned traitor. I'm sorry. Sad

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Congrats on your lodge!!!
Sorry that so many things are going crazy right now. Hopefully your old landlord will get your money to you and things with your neighbors get worked out. Hope you feel better soon. Smile

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Had my 3rd prenatal class tonight. The first one DH could come to. Again, I don't even know why I'm going to these. Probably just hoping I'll learn something I didn't already know. I find them so frustrating, because the nurse that teaches them knows *how birth goes* here at the hospital, but quite frankly, she knows very little about the reasoning behind most of it, or the risks or benefits of the different interventions. DH kept whispering in my ear "that won't be us" or "that's not right, is it?" the whole time. (I had him read The Thinking Woman's Guide while he was away, and he's doing the Hypnobabies course with me.) I don't think he needs much convincing that natural is the best way to go...

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Wow, your DH is awesome!

I found the hospital prenatal classes to be pretty useless last time too...this time I didn't bother.

Ugh, I'm so sorry about the 'roids. That's no fun!

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We attended 2-3 prenatal classes at the place our midwife practices out of. Completely unrelated to the midwife practice... I really wish we could attend classes that were taught by midwifes, like on House of Babies. Anyway, we quit the classes. I've read so many books throughout this pregnancy, talked with lots of great informed women on here and watched a lot of tv shows... there was nothing for me at the classes. Full of epidural happy women and the only real advice the teacher gave was 'breathe however feels right'. :shrug: Even DH said he was learning nothing so we just decided it was a waste of time.
I would say quit them if you're not getting anything out of them... that's great that your DH is reading and participating in the course with you.

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That stinks about your classes. My hospital classes were fairly ncb-friendly but still not that educational Lol Will you have a doula or someone else? My mom helped a lot (she had both of us naturally).

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I didn't want to take pre-natal classes either, but my midwife talked me into it. I can't say that I am learning that much, but I really like the teacher, she is also a yoga teacher and very NCB friendly.
The best part about the class is being around other pregnant couples - it is a nice group of people - I guess I lucked out.

Maybe you'll meet some like-minded couples there too? I hope so! At least you and your DH know exactly where eachother stand on all of the decisions that have to be made.

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That stinks about your classes. My hospital classes were fairly ncb-friendly but still not that educational Lol Will you have a doula or someone else? My mom helped a lot (she had both of us naturally).

I'm not having a doula. I was planning on it, money is really tight right now, and I'm only allowed to have 2 support people with me in the case room, and DH is going to be there, and I REALLY want my mom there too. She's reading the "thinking woman's guide" and the whole hypnobabies course, and she's a health care professional too, so I'm hoping that'll all help. In the meantime, if I go into labor or have to go to the case room for some reason prior to the 18th (unlikely, I know), a nurse-midwife I've worked with has offered to go with me. That would be awesome, especially since my mom has a 9 hour drive to get here. (Mom's been placed on 24 hour standby Lol If my mucous plug starts to come out, she's getting the call!)

Anywho, my bases are mostly covered.

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I read your lodge on almost a daily basis, and never comment.. So I wanted to say "HI" I love reading about your preparations and hope everything continues to go smoothly.

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Hey, Amber...just a ? about 'babies. How long did it take for you to get it from when you ordered it? Smile

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It was a good couple of weeks from when I ordered it that it came in the mail. The US postal service is quite fast, but once it hits this side of the border, it takes forever. That's been my experience, anyways, and I've ordered lots of stuff from the US lately.

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37 weeks 2 days

TMI WARNING! (don't read if you're at all squeemish)

I had an appointment today. My doc wasn't there, but her resident was. My BP is still up slightly, which isn't a surprise considering the stress I've been under the past week or so. I'm up another lb since last week, so that's about 12 or 13 in total. Baby sounds good, and I'm measuring 39 weeks. Baby obviously hasn't dropped yet. There are trace proteins in my urine, which is fairly normal at this point in pregnancy, but we're keeping an eye on that and my BP to make sure they don't get out of hand.

The big issue of the day, obviously, was my @ss issues. Fun times. Seriously, after 5 days I figured that things would be STARTING to get better, but nope. I haven't even been able to use anusol because it itches so much. The xylocaine jelly did absolutely NOTHING, and neither did the prescription corticosteriod foam that I'd been using. Plus, I've been taking atasol 30s and atasol 8s for pain (trying to stay with the 8s rather than the 30s because I don't like taking meds while pregnant). Anywho, I told all this to the resident and she went and got another doc that works at the clinic and they had a look. (I find it really funny that my vagina has only been looked at ONCE during this entire pregnancy, yet everyone and their dog has had a view of my rear end.) Anywho, Dr. F (another seemingly awesome family practicioner at this clinic) gave me the option of doing nothing or having the big thrombosed bugger lanced. What a decision, let me tell you....especially after my last experience letting a doctor near my bum with a scalpel. But I remembered my Dad saying that having them lanced give a lot of relief really quickly, so I decided to go for it. They took me out to the procedure room and did it then and there. Again, the xylocaine injections were the worst part. The procedure itself didn't hurt at all, though I could tell they were being fairly aggressive to get all the clot out. Then they cleaned me up (it's a pretty bloody procedure) and got me a big ol' maternity pad (good thing too...I certainly needed it). I couldn't believe how fast the xylocaine wore off though. It was burning really bad as I left the clinic.

They sent me home with a script for more atasol 30s, and I picked them up on the way home, downing 2 as soon as the pharmacist handed me the bag (I live just minutes from the pharmacy, so I wasn't driving under the influence or anything). Anywho, the pain is pretty well controlled now when I'm still, but when I get up from sitting...watch out! I have a feeling that I'll do much better though with having them lanced than I did with the excision I had before.

Oh, and can I say again how awesome my clinic is? The resident spent a good 1 1/2 hours with me. The doctor who helped her with the procedure spent about 45 minutes with me. Where else do you get docs that take this much time with their patients? I think it has to do with the fact that they get funding from the university because they're a teaching clinic, and because they also get support from the provincial government (besides the normal funding I mean) because they were started as a research project into community health and primary health care. Anywho, I love this model of care. It's so much more than I could have imagined, given the state of maternity care in Newfoundland right now.

Anywho...sorry for the TMI of this post.

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Meh...I don't think too many of us here are very squeamish. I'm glad you got some relief!!

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38 weeks

It's been a pretty uneventful weeks, but I figured I'd better add something before my lodge falls off the face of the earth.

Anywho, as for a bum update...the buggers came back. It's like that Fred Penner song "The cat came back, the very next day, the cat came back, we thought he was a goner but the cat came back, he just couldn't stay away!" (All you Canadians on the board MUST remember that from childhood!) Oh well, I'm not as uncomfortable as I was last week (when I could barely move at times), so I guess I can't complain too much, right? My doc will probably want to have a look tomorrow. I still think it's freaking hilarious that my bum has been viewed by probably a dozen people well over a dozen times this pregnancy, and my cootch has only been tormented once (when I went to the caseroom because of a possible leak). Hmm...maybe they'll just forget I'm pregnant altogether and leave the front end alone!

So, moving on, I have a wee bit of a vent. DH and I had our hospital tour on Monday night. The nurse that did the tour was actually pretty good. She seemed to be fairly naturally-minded, as in talking about getting the moms up and moving around...in the bath, in the shower, bring in a birthing ball if you have one, stay off your back, use the squat bar, yada yada yada. However, when she talked about what happens after delivery she talked about how the baby will be brought over to the warmer and they'll give the eye ointment (to prevent "infection" without specifying which infections she meant...I'm sure it would have raised some eyebrows had she said it was to prevent chlamydia and gonorrhea) and they'll give the vitamin K ("because all babies have clotting problems in the first 24 hours"). Then she said, "but don't worry about that stuff, ALL babies get this." Really, it just pisses me off a little that heath care professionals (and I am one, so my vent is against my coworkers here) don't bother giving accurate info to moms and dads, and even worse, moms and dads don't even think to question anything! Everyone just nodded their heads during the whole tour. Anywho, then we went up to the maternity ward, and she explained some stuff about visiting hours and how to get a private room and all that. She showed us the holding room for the babies and told us this is where the bring the baby straight from labor and delivery. Um...sorry, but I'm not letting my kid out of my sight. I didn't say that then, I figure no need to get into an argument in the middle of the hallway. She told us they do their first bath in their and all their assessments. I mentioned how my mom wants to give the baby his/her first bath (something she mentioned that she REALLY wants to do) and the nurse was completely taken aback! She said, "well, that's part of the assessment." Anyone damn well knows you can do a newborn assessment after you bath them. Or before. And my mother knows what she's doing. She's a nurse, as am I. You don't actually need to be bathing them at the time. Besides, any assessments on my baby better be done with me or my DH or my mother in their presence. Anywho, I just got a bit peeved. Oh, and there's this talk of "Ask your nurse and see if they'll *let* you" when it came to different things about the baby after the birth. My God, really? I have to get permission to _________ my own child?" That irked me so much!

OK, so anyways....enough venting. DH and my parents are going to be there, and I KNOW they aren't going to take any crap from anyone and will fight for my wishes to be respected.

And I have my 38 week appointment tomorrow morning. I may or maynot be doing the GBS swab. I'm also going to be swabbed for chlamydia and gonorrhea so that so that my doc can happily order "no erythromycin gtts" for the baby. We're also going to talk about the vitamin K again and the pit shot again (the 2 remaining sticking points in my birth preference). Just wondering....has anyone here ever gone with the oral vitamin K? Did you do just one dose, or multiple doses? When did you give it? I'm thinking that I'd be much more comfortable giving the oral vitamin K daily over a week, so as not to load up the baby's system all at the one time. And it avoids the IM injection. Plus, my doc would be much more comfortable with oral vitamin K than declining it altogether, I think. So yeah....anyone with any experience with it? TIA for your input.

Anywho, I'll update from my appointment tomorrow.

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Sorry the hospital tour was kind of a bummer. I like my hospital, but there were still things that had me muttering "unassisted homebirth" to dh. :roll: It's annoying to have such a lack of control over your environment!!!

Sorry about the bum issues. Your poor bum. Sad

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OMG, I'm so sorry about your butt. I have roids too and they reared ugly heads at the beginning of November. I was in tears. I almost booked an appt with a colorectal surgeon. I feel so bad for you. Have you tried "breathing down anesthesia" down there (hypnobabies stuff) or using your Peace que? The roids are HELL and I can so empathize. Looking forward to how your appt went with your awesome family doc. Is she a GP or boarded in family medicine (there is a difference!).

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I'm sorry about your ongoing bum problems! I just can't imagine... Sad
As far as your hospital and all those routine things... Can you put in your birth plan the things you don't want, and sign waivers if you have to? I agree it is silly that everyone just nods their heads and doesn't even think to question how things are done. But, that's how it goes.

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OMG, I'm so sorry about your butt. I have roids too and they reared ugly heads at the beginning of November. I was in tears. I almost booked an appt with a colorectal surgeon. I feel so bad for you. Have you tried "breathing down anesthesia" down there (hypnobabies stuff) or using your Peace que? The roids are HELL and I can so empathize. Looking forward to how your appt went with your awesome family doc. Is she a GP or boarded in family medicine (there is a difference!).

I've been dealing with them constantly since July. It's horrid, horrid, horrid. And I will never again have an idiot surgeon butcher my bum like I did in August and send me home on tylenol. I was literally praying I would die. I think that before I get pregnant again I will have to have major surgery to ensure I don't have a repeat of this. When I was in a lot of pain there last week (before the lancing) I used to use the Hypnobabies stuff to get some comfort and be able to get to sleep, but within a half hour or so, DH would bump into me while rolling over or something and I would wake up screaming in pain. I barely slept 3 nights in a row because of it. And during the day, I would use it....but I had stuff to do, so I kinda needed to NOT be in hypnosis, ya know? Lol I thought about using the hypnosis while they were lancing the bugger, but the doctors kept talking to me (I guess to distract me) and were so kind and nice that I really didn't want to be rude and ask them not to talk! Lol I'm going to have to get over that one pretty fast though!

As for my GP....not sure what you mean! Lol Is there still a diff here in Canada? If there is, I'm not aware of it! (I feel kinda stupid now!) Hopefully one of the other Canadian ladies can help inform me on this one! All I know is, I'm incredibly lucky to have found her.

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"Dese" wrote:

I'm sorry about your ongoing bum problems! I just can't imagine... Sad
As far as your hospital and all those routine things... Can you put in your birth plan the things you don't want, and sign waivers if you have to? I agree it is silly that everyone just nods their heads and doesn't even think to question how things are done. But, that's how it goes.

I will sign waivers if I have to. My doc has already agreed for me to opt out of the eye ointment, given my swabs for chlamydia and gonorrhea come back negative (which they will). She's actually on a committee that's looking at changing the routine administration of prophylactic eye ointment, due to concerns about the overuse of antibiotics). But things like the baby's first bath and neonatal assessments and stuff are out of her control altogether...I have to work with the OB nurses on those issues. But I'll be damned if someone tries to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own baby. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not expecting it. I trained on that unit, only three years ago, and was NOT impressed. But, I'm *trying* to keep an open mind. And I'm going to bribe the nurses. The Hypnobabies book suggests bringing in goodies (like brownies) for the nursing staff. Since I'm not likely to bake...ever...let alone in labor, I'm going to pick up some boxes of Turtles or something for the staff. Think it'll work! Lol

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(((hugs))) They were happy I asked to have Tom on me sjin to skin for at least an hour. No bath or measuring or eye goop or anything until after that. GL!! Oh - all that was done in the room and Dan & Mom did the bath.

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My not so great doctor's appointment...

Well ladies....the jig is up. My BP was up for the 3rd week in a row. 130/90 today....borderline PIH. So, I'm now on the prenatal home care program. Tomorrow I have to have bloodwork done at the hospital (platelets, LFTs, CBC) and a home care nurse will visit me at home and set me up with the program. I'll have to monitor my BP twice a day, dip my urine every morning, take scheduled rest periods, lying on my left side. My activity level has to drop dramatically. No shopping, no cleaning, no anything. I'm not even allowed to drive. It's a bloody good thing Steve is on vacation. However...and here's the kicker...there's a chance he has to go back to Ontario next week. He received an email yesterday from the head Newalta office and he's supposed to return from the 17th to the 20th for more training. They're just springing this on him now. His boss at his Newalta facility is on his side, but Steve has to call this chick at the head office back and see what's on the go.

Anywho, as for the PIH, my doc says she's only on the "edge of being concerned" about it. She figures I'm going to ride out the rest of the pregnancy being just borderline. My urine was clear of any and all protein this week...no trace even. I gained a lb this week, so now I'm up 13 total. I'm not swollen at all, no headaches, reflexes are perfect. Nothing else to indicate pre-eclampsia at all.

Oh, and I'm still measuring 39 weeks. Baby hasn't dropped yet. Looks like I'm in this for the long haul. She's sending my pee off to be tested for STDs, so that when it comes back negative she can write the "no erythromycin order" for the baby in good conscience. She's also fine with the oral vitamin K as opposed to the injection, and she's good with holding off on the oxytocin. I declined the GBS swab, and she found out that they treat unknowns for risk factors only...and I'm good with that. So if my membranes are ruptures for longer than 18 hours or I develop a fever, I'll consent to the antibiotics, but other than that, I'm good to go.

Anywho, that's my update. Guess we won't be having much of a Christmas after all. I have all of one gift bought...a coffee maker for steve's parents. Fun times.

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I'm sorry to hear that! And astressing about your blood pressure will just raise it! Oy!

Good luck taking that rest and sending GOOD BLOODWORK VIBES your way Sad

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Ugh! My bp was up a bit at the end of pregnancy too. I hope that's all that comes of it for you. I'm sorry your activities are going to be so limited though. I will be sending prayers your way and hoping that everything works out beautifully for you. :bigarmhug:

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Oh boo! I'm sorry to hear this. BP down vibes coming to you.

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