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*~*~* Lauren's (LMCH) Birth Lodge *~*~*

Welcome to your lodge!

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Eeek...I can't believe it is time for this already! Excited and nervous at the same time Lol My parents are visiting so I will come back when I have more time to write up some sort of intro complete with cheesy pictures Wink

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Intro - how I met DH, engagement, wedding

DH (Jason) and I met in January 2003. I was in my 4th year in college (of a 5 year bachelors/masters combined program), and I had just started back from winter break. Never having had a "real" boyfriend before, I spent much of fall semester bemoaning the fact that I didn't have a guy, etc. etc. When I returned from break in January, I vowed to just enjoy that semester with my friends, since many of them would be graduating and leaving at the end of the spring semester. Everyone always says that you will find someone when you stop looking... that is pretty much what happened. After being back for a week or two, a friend of mine (S) and I were hanging out but wanted to go somewhere but not just the two of us. So we called our other friend (J) and she was out at a quiet, laid back bar with some guy friends, many of which she had known since high school. I had met some of them before at other parties, etc. that I went to with J, but I had never met Jason before. He caught my eye...and eventually that night, one of his other friends must have noticed us chatting, etc. and offered to switch me seats so I wouldn't be cold by the door *wink wink* Oddly, I was then between Jason and another guy, both of whom were flirting with me...the other guy eventually picked up on the fact that I was into Jason, and when he got ready to leave he told me "have a good night and kiss my friend" Lol Since I had driven S and I there, but the boys had bought us far too many drinks, Jason, who was DD for some of them, offered (at the suggestion of my friend J) to drive us back to their friend's apartment (which was closer than Jason's house) and then drive us back to our car once we all sobered up. I remember questioning J's idea, and then she said "trust me, this is a good thing" My friend S ended up chatting (and probably making out with :roll:) one of the guys whose apartment it was, but Jason and I spent a couple hours talking, and eventually had a nice first kiss. After that first meeting, our mutual friend J wanted us to go on a double date with her and her boyfriend that next Friday or Saturday. Jason and I chatted on the phone and on AIM several times, and ended up spontaneously going out to a movie in the middle of the week (wednesday or thursday) b/c we were both bored. It was snowing out, and I kept thinking "my parents will be so mad if I wreck my car going to meet some boy for a movie!" I can still remember butterflies when I saw him standing in the lobby of the theater. I hated the movie we saw, but that didn't matter Smile My friend J made fun of me that we couldn't wait and went out before the scheduled double date for that weekend.

That is the long version of how we met. DH likes to tell it as "I met her in a bar" ROFL I always tell him that we met through a mutual friend, and it just so happened to be in a bar...but the way he tells the story makes it sound like he was some random dude that picked me up with some cheesy line and bought me a drink Lol

DH and I in February 2003, about a month after we met (we look so YOUNG!):

It was funny that we had never met before, since we later realized that we were both at the same place at least 2 other times when I was out with my friend J and a large group of people, some of which were those guy friends of hers from high school. I guess what they say about people meeting at the right time is true.

A little over a year later, in March 2004, he proposed. My grandmother had given me her diamond a couple years prior (she had it set in a necklace due to not being able to wear it on her hand from lymphedema from breast cancer in the past, but she and my grandfather always wanted me to have it), and she had given me the ok to put it back in a ring some day if I wanted. So, I knew the proposal was coming at some point, since DH had my grandmother's necklace with the diamond that was to be in my engagement ring. That Saturday that he proposed, we had a HUGE practical exam basically where our professors acted as patients and we drew a card with a certain patient diagnosis, scenario, etc. We were graded on how we did evaluating and treating them. If you don't pass, you have to redo it and pass before you are allowed to go onto your clinical rotations...so lots of pressure. I passed, and later that day when Jason came over, he proposed...nothing fancy, just in my apartment. He brought back the box that my grandmother's necklace was in and said "I brought back your necklace" and the ring was in the box...he got down on one knee, etc. etc. I later asked him what his plan was if I hadn't passed my practical exam...he had no back up plan...good thing I passed Lol

eta:
Graduated with my master of Physical Therapy in August 2004:

might as well include wedding in here. we got married September 10, 2005 ...nothing exciting to report about that...

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more wedding pics

Here are some more pics from our wedding. We got married here in Pittsburgh, even though I grew up in VA, since I didn't really have a home church there...and the only family of mine in VA is my immediate family (mom, dad, sister). We got married at the church I joined here and still attend. Anyway, here are pics:



and being silly:

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Our TTC #1 and pg #1 story

(might as well keep typing stuff up while I have the time and motivation Lol I will separate them out, but bear with me, here, ladies)

Before getting married, we talked about waiting several years before having kids, but that baby fever crept up sooner than we had anticipated. After being married about 1 1/2 years, we started talking kids...or I started bugging DH and we agreed that we would start trying about spring of 2007. I was worried it would take a while for my cycles to get back on track after going off the pill, but lo and behold, I got pregnant on my second cycle off the pill in May of 2007, got a BFP at the beginning of June. I have always loved kids (my sister is 7 years younger than I am, and I was always known as the little mother...I loved to babysit...and I ended up practicing physical therapy with pediatric population), and I was excited, yet scared out of my mind, to be expecting a little one of my own.

I joined this online community a few months before going off the pill, learned a lot from ladies on the boards about fertility signs, natural birth, etc. When I was first TTC'ing, I wasn't dead set on natural childbirth, but many of the smart ladies on the boards made me aware of the many resources out there. I read up on lots of things, and decided I wanted to go as natural as possible with DS #1's birth. I wasn't "brave" enough to switch my care to the MWs with him, since I had never done this before, didn't know what to expect, etc. So I did what "Everyone" does and stuck with my OB group...I had a few of my faves that I hoped would be on call during labor. I did have a couple negative experiences with 1-2 OBs at that group, which lead me to hire a doula, a little late in the game at 34 weeks, but I am so thankful I made the decision to get a doula. She was the first to respond to my initial email, and at our first meeting, we clicked and i knew she was a great match for us.

DS's pregnancy was relatively uneventful, other than a few findings at my anatomical scan at about 19 weeks. They found choroid plexus cysts (relatively common and usually benign, I later learned) and renal pyelectasis (or dilated kidneys). The nurse who called me did not explain anything, just rattled off these terms and told me to make an appointment with the maternal fetal specialist. I am so glad I was home sick that day, because I was beside myself. Those 2 things together CAN be soft markers for trisomy 18... Since the nurse didn't explain anything or put me at ease at all, I looked things up online, ended up freaked out beyond belief. After meeting with the maternal fetal specialist, he put us more at ease, and we monitored the kidneys with an u/s every 4 weeks until I was 36 weeks when the measurement of the kidneys was within normal limits. The choroid plexus cysts resolved at some point earlier on. We never went down the road of amnio, since my quad screen (which I initially declined but went back and did once the u/s showed those things) came back with no increased risk and we wouldn't have changed anything, other than had the appropriate specialists prepared at the time of birth.

eta: belly pic from DS's pregnancy, 39 weeks

DS, Nathan, is now almost 3. His bday is 2/12...so he will turn 3 shortly after this new LO arrives!

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Nathan's Birth Story

On Monday, February 11, I went to work like any other day. I was feeling some discomfort throughout the day, which I brushed off as Braxton Hicks. Several coworkers throughout the day asked me if I was sure I wasn’t in labor. I didn’t have a patient scheduled from 3:00 to 4:00, so while I sat at my desk, I started paying more attention to these “pains” and how often they were coming. I used an online contraction timer around 3:45, when it said my contractions were varying from 30 second to one minute long and five to eight minutes apart. So, things were still somewhat irregular, but they were definitely getting stronger and getting my attention more and more. I left work around 4:30, saying to everyone “see you tomorrow.” On my way to the parking garage, I called Jason and told him “I don’t know what is going on, but we might be on baby watch tonight.”

The contractions were getting more uncomfortable on the way home. I kept an eye on the clock to see what the contractions were up to. I called my mom and Jason a couple times, a bit panicky asking “how do I know if this is really it???” I was feeling it mostly below my belly button and still thought they might just be Braxton Hicks. As the contractions got more uncomfortable, I found myself pulling my waistband away from my belly during each one. Driving home I thought, maybe I should have left work earlier!

I got home around 5:00 or 5:15. Jason and I called Joanna, our doula, and I told her my symptoms and what the contractions were feeling like and how far apart they were. She suggested that I take a shower, eat something, have a drink, and then call her in about an hour to let her know if things had changed at all. Around 6:00, before getting in the shower, I called the doctor’s office and left a message with the answering service. While in the shower, Dr. Sword called and talked to Jason. He says “sounds like labor” and that we can head into the hospital. Jason and I were both SO relieved to hear that Dr. Sword was the one on call, since he was one of our favorites.

Meanwhile, contractions did not go away or decrease at all with the shower, in fact I had to stop four or five times while in the shower to breathe through some contractions. Jason and I start packing last minute things, and Jason takes everything to the car. We called Joanna again around 6:45 with the update. She suggests laboring at home as long as possible rather than head right to the hospital. Around 7:30 when we talk to Joanna, I am a little apprehensive about staying at home, not knowing how long it will be, so we ask Joanna to come out to the house to labor at home with us for a while. While waiting for her to arrive, I think I said to Jason “I don’t think I can do this” at least ten times. The only way I was comfortable during contractions was standing, leaning over the dresser, Jason or the bed and swaying or kind of doing little squats up and down. I tried lying on my side or on my hands and knees, but as soon as a contraction came, I had to jump up to get comfortable.

Joanna arrived a little before 9:00, and she brought in her birthing ball. Thank goodness for that thing. I was able to get comfortable without having to be constantly on my feet and exhausting myself. The contractions continued to get stronger and closer together. It felt like I didn’t get much of a break in between. I also learned that it was now snowing outside. Right before 11:00, we decided to head to the hospital. Jason and Joanna warmed up the cars, while I tried to pee, which was more like sitting on the toilet through three or four contractions, only to get a little tiny dribble…very frustrating.

The car ride to the hospital was really hard. It was snowy, so Jason was trying to drive as quickly as he could without putting us all in danger of getting in an accident on the way. There were a lot of bumps along the road, many strong contractions, and increasing pressure with each contraction. When we pulled up to the ER entrance, I started to feel a little fluid leaking but nothing major. Jason wheeled me in, we checked into the ER, and waited for an OB nurse to come take us upstairs. While in the ER, I breathed and moaned through several contractions. The other people in the waiting room probably thought I was nuts, but I was beyond caring who was there or how much noise I was making. Still waiting for the nurse to get us, I ask Jason if we are supposed to go up or if someone is coming, he affirms that someone is coming to get us, and I impatiently tell him “well they better f@$%ing hurry!”

We are finally taken to OB triage, and we don’t have much time between contractions to change into a gown, get on the gurney, get hooked up to monitors, etc. The nurse takes my vitals and hooks me up to the monitor. Everything looks good, except for the one BP reading that was taken during a contraction! The nurse leaves to get the doctor to check me, and while we are waiting, my water breaks during a contraction. It was very dramatic, breaking with a pop and a gush. By the time the doctor came to check me, it was about midnight and he says I am already 9 centimeters!

Off to a room I go, with barely enough time to get a heplock in me, etc. I don’t think I even got a hospital bracelet or answered some “pre-admission” questions until after the birth. With each contraction, I am now feeling lots of urges to push. Jason and Joanna do a great job coaching me to breathe and pant to resist pushing until I am completely dilated. That was the hardest part of labor…not pushing when I really felt the need to. Around 12:30, Dr. Sword checks me again, and I am 10 centimeters…yay! I am allowed to push with the next round of contractions. After those contractions towards the end, pushing felt heavenly.

I ended up staying in bed, in semi-reclined/seated position to push, since I was so exhausted from being standing, sitting, on hands and knees during most of the laboring. I pushed while Jason and Joanna held my legs. Dr. Sword and my nurse, Amy, were great coaches/cheerleaders as well. Part of the way through the pushing, Dr. Sword decided I needed more leverage with my arms than I was getting by holding my knees. He held one end of a towel while I pulled on the other end during pushing…never thought I would play tug of war with my OB, but it did the trick.

As I got closer, they “broke the bed” and got all the towels and such ready. Dr. Sword put on his “spacesuit” and got ready for the baby to arrive. During the last part of pushing, I learned that Nathan was full occiput posterior or “sunny side up”, which is apparently harder to push out (great!). Finally at 1:52 am on February 12, after less than one and a half hours of pushing, Nathan is born. Jason got to cut the cord. Nathan had a nice cone head, thanks to being posterior, but he still looked absolutely perfect to us. I ended up with a second degree tear that Dr. Sword stitched up while Nathan was being weighed, etc. After the nurses got him cleaned up and Dr. Sword got me fixed up, Joanna helps us nurse for the first time. I couldn’t have done it without my awesome team…Jason, Joanna, Dr. Sword, and my nurse Amy. The next couple days, in addition to the obvious soreness, my whole body was sore from all that pushing and pulling on the towel, but it was so worth it to get my wonderful little guy!

eta pics:


oh dear, he looks like such a little peanut! he was... 6 lb 9 oz, 20.5 inches long And he is STILL a long and skinny thing!

***in hindsight, I would have pushed in a different position and waited until I felt more "pushy" to help avoid tearing. I think, since he was OP, I was feeling the urge to push early on (at the end of the car ride into the hospital and just prior to being told I was completely dilated), but once I was complete, I wasn't feeling it as much. Probably should have taken advantage of that break to rest. This time, I will remember that!

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and last, but not least, here is our family now, pics taken at the beginning of Dec...


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What a wonderful story! I love your wedding dress btw. That must have been so scary to find those things on your son's ultrasound- thankfully they turned out to be nothing but I know I would have been freaking out too if a nurse called and told me those things but offered no explanation or anything.

At least you got a cool doctor- the one who was on call when I had DS was kind of an a-hole, not to mention I'd never seen him before in my life because he was from another office than the one I went to for prenatal appointments.

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Congrats on your lodge... what a great intro. Smile

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Welcome to your lodge!! Great intro! I look forward to following you on your journey these next few weeks!

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I love maternity pictures, you look beautiful. What is your plan for this birth?

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Love the stories and pix! Tell us your plans for this LO! Will love following this next chapter for you Smile

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Welcome to your lodge! What a great family picture and I laughed at your response to your DH when he said someone was supposed to come get you.

Cindy

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thanks ladies...at work today...will type up info about this pg/birth when I get home later Smile

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Welcome to your lodge! I enjoyed reading your intro- can't wait to hear more about this pregnancy!

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This pregnancy so far...

...I'm back for more, ladies Lol

So this pregnancy... We decided we wanted to start trying at some point after DS turned 2 (which was in february this year). Again, I went off BCP and got pregnant on the second cycle (so only had one AF off BCP). That must be my magic number of cycles...this time around I was more relaxed about just letting it happen, but once I thought I had O'd, I was somewhat obsessive Lol So much for "letting it happen" I wasn't temp'ing, but just monitoring my CM. Based on that, i think I o'd on CD 10, which is why I calculated my due date to be earlier than what the doc and MW calculated based on LMP.

I had already scheduled my annual gyn exam/pap test at my OB group before finding out I was pregnant, and when I called them, they told me to keep the appointment...they would do my annual and confirm the pregnancy at the same time. I was about 6 weeks at the time, and I scheduled my second visit for about 4 weeks later with them. In the next couple weeks, after talking with DH more and thinking things over, we decided to go with the local birth center this time around. Though I did have a fairly good hospital birth experience with DS1, I was nervous to do it again, especially since labor with DS was fairly short considering I was a FTM and he was posterior. I would hate to either go to the hospital too early or wait too long (in order to labor as much at home as possible like last time) and give birth in the car or something. That and I wanted a more natural minded, caring provider this time. I had heard and read good things about the birth center. So, we signed up for orientation, loved what we heard, and scheduled my first visit with the MWs when I was about 10 weeks along. At my first appointment they tried to find the heartbeat, even though she said it might be difficult since it was still early. She found it and I was so happy.

At 12 weeks or so, I started bleeding at work. During lunch, while just sitting around with coworkers I felt a gush...I nearly sprinted to the bathroom only to see what I didn't want to see. Thank goodness I work with nearly all women who are a fairly tight nit group. So, I quietly told 2 of them who were in the office (rather than the lunch room) and both of them agreed that I should call the MW on call and leave to go in. The other PT and the PT intern were able to cover the rest of my kids for the afternoon, and I left for the MW. She was able to find the heartbeat (best sound ever at that moment). She wasn't too alarmed by the amount of blood...said it wasn't overwhelming...if it was something like placenta previa I would be bleeding A LOT. She sent me for an u/s anyway, and we went that evening for an u/s, which showed healthy bean, no obvious reason for bleeding. Spotting continued for a week or so, and I was worried it was connected to more activity, b/c it seemed to increase on days I worked (where I lift, chase, etc. kids). Around 14 weeks, it resolved and never came back Yahoo I was sure that this bean was a girl with all the drama ROFL

at our anatomical scan (around 19 weeks), we found out we were expecting another little boy, which I was not-so-secretly hoping for, since he and DS would be born in the same seasons (so mommy already has all the right clothes)...and I feel like I already know what I am doing with little boys. Though, having a girl would be cute...maybe next time Wink He was breech at the u/s with his bottom up against my cervix, and we almost thought we wouldn't be able to find out the sex of the baby. I thought nothing of the breech thing since it was so early.

flash forward to my appointment a few weeks when the MW i saw told me she thought he was breech...what I thought was his butt jabbing me near the ribs, she thought was his head. argh! I did some spinning babies stuff and at my last appointment (last week on Monday), the other MW I saw initially said she thinks head down when she first palpated. Then she searched for the heart beat with the doppler, and because she found it up higher, she second guessed herself and palpated some more, changing her guess to breech :roll: She said if he is still breech or they are unsure at next appt, we do an u/s, then talk ECV at 37 weeks. I later read on spinning babies, that location of where the doppler finds the HB is not always a good indicator of position. While doing a breech tilt, I swore what I felt down low was head (she mentioned the head will kind of spring/rebound back when you push on it).

Anyway, I should have cried for an u/s after last appointment b/c my next appt. isn't until next Wednesday (1/5)...when they will consider me 36w5d but I consider myself 37w2d...that, for me, is cutting it too close, and I have spent the last week obsessing over what I am feeling, poking at my belly, etc. Not a relaxing holiday week! So I called Monday to see if I could get in this week sometime so we can start the whole process of u/s, schedule ECV if needed, etc. ASAP. Well I forgot they were closed for the holiday Monday, and today when they returned my message, they only called my house, and I was at work all day. But even when I tried to call them from work this afternoon and from home later this afternoon, I got the message...I didn't just want to keep playing phone tag when they wouldn't be able to reach me while I was with patients. So I am calling them tomorrow...I am off and DS is at daycare, since we have an extra day to use... DH kept him monday while I worked a short day. Hopefully they can see me at some point either tomorrow or Friday...otherwise, I might go bonkers waiting. Every time I think I have this kid figured out position wise, he does something that makes me second guess.

So other than the bleeding early on and now the uncertainty of his position, this pregnancy has been uneventful. I have gained more than with DS...with DS i was up 30-35 pounds at time of delivery...right now, at 36 weeks, I am up about 33-35 pounds. So still not too far off from last pregnancy's gain, but more. And it seems more difficult to get aroudn this time...could be that I am chasing after my 30 pound toddler and don't get to nap whenever I want like with last pregnancy! I had some low back/sacroiliac issues for which I was seeing a chiro...these were SI issues that I had prior to pregnancy that were just exacerbated by pregnancy. The chiro is certified in webster technique...and the last 2 times I went, nothing was out of place in that department that should be keeping little one from being head down.

I think that is it for now...other than names... I initially wanted William (to be called Will) but then it didn't seem to jump out as THE name. DH and I agreed we liked Aaron, Ryan and William. So when Will didn't seem to be IT, we thought Aaron William or Ryan William. I liked Aaron better, and eventually DS consistently voted for Aaron (even though he is not even 3, I told DH he was outvoted, haha). A few weeks ago, I was like "are you SURE about this name???" Now i am leaning back to William Aaron. We voted against Ryan, as it is BIL's middle name, and they might use it as their baby-to-be's middle name. We are going to wait until we meet him to decide...I just hope he looks like either Aaron or Will, because if not, we will be back to the drawing board completely Lol

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36 weeks 1 day belly pic

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I can't believe you're so close!!!

Oh, and I totally know what you mean about not being able to get around as easily with the 2nd baby. Having a toddler really throws a curve ball into things, doesn't it?

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Impromptu MW appt. tomorrow (XP from Jan. 2011 BB)

...to check on the position of this kiddo! The only appointment they had for the rest of the week (by the time we finished playing phone tag) was tomorrow at 2 pm. I will have them manually check on baby's position, and if they are unsure, I will have to get an u/s...not sure if that is a right away, go to the hospital for the u/s or schedule it at the outpatient u/s place. I am kinda hoping it is a right away thing if needed, b/c DS won't be with me. I would hate to have to try to schedule something else into a short time span. When the only appt. they had was tomorrow at 2, I told them to pencil it in and I would talk to my boss, since I am supposed to work 8-6:30 tomorrow. I think since it was a baby thing, my boss didn't question it too much...I was afraid it wouldn't be possible with other people being off for the holidays...but he said it is doable for me to leave after lunch. I HATE to use up PTO time that would be better used on maternity leave, but I am making myself NUTS not knowing which way is up with this little man. IF he is breech, I guess we start talking external version at 37 weeks...hopefully he is head down and it is a non-issue.

I will update tomorrow afternoon once I know something!

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Glad you could get in sooner- not knowing would be killing me too! I hope baby has cooperated and moved head down!

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I hope LO is head down for you & MW can tell w/out u/s. The same thing happened with DS2 because MW found the HB so high up on me & she 2nd guessed herself. Low & behold he was head down. Hope its the same for you.

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Good luck I hope baby has turned for you.

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Well ladies, I do not come bearing good news. 3 out of 3 providers over the last 4 weeks have said breech... Sadly they didn't send me straight to the hospital for an u/s. I go for an u/s Monday afternoon and have another MW appointment next Wednesday. She was saying we can try other things before a version (chiropractor, acupuncture)...I am just frustrated b/c we are running low on time. Anyway...will try anything I can between now and monday...and then see what the u/s says and go from there. I might download the hypnobabies turn baby track too.

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Sorry it wasn't better news. Spin baby spin!

Cindy

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Lauren, it was wonderful reading through all of your lodge already! I was stunned that it was already time!

I really hope that they are all wrong or that he turns soon!

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Ack! No way!

I'd start working every trick in the book to get the little bugger to turn. Check out the spinningbabies.com site (which you probably already have), use the Hypnobabies track, get to a Webster trained chiro, and find someone who knows how to do moxibustion http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=258

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Turn baby turn!

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"Amber_daisy" wrote:

Ack! No way!

I'd start working every trick in the book to get the little bugger to turn. Check out the spinningbabies.com site (which you probably already have), use the Hypnobabies track, get to a Webster trained chiro, and find someone who knows how to do moxibustion http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=258

oh you should have been at my house yesterday evening/night. hot/cold packs, flashlight on the lower belly, DH talking through the paper towel tube to my lower belly, inversions, tilts, etc. I did do the hypnobabies track while DH bathed DS and put him to bed. Pretty sure I fell asleep OR was just really hypnotized Wink

A lady in our birth center childbirth refresher class had a breech baby at the time of the class and mentioned moxibustion so I had looked it up. I have the number of an acupuncture place that can do acupuncture and moxibustion...but alas they are closed...will have to call monday...argh! darn holidays messing up my efforts here. I did also order moxa sticks so I can do it at home too.

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I can't believe you're so close! Yahoo I have slow internet right now and can't read everything, but if your LO is still breech I hope he turns soon so you can relax a little.

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oh you should have been at my house yesterday evening/night. hot/cold packs, flashlight on the lower belly, DH talking through the paper towel tube to my lower belly, inversions, tilts, etc. I did do the hypnobabies track while DH bathed DS and put him to bed. Pretty sure I fell asleep OR was just really hypnotized Wink

A lady in our birth center childbirth refresher class had a breech baby at the time of the class and mentioned moxibustion so I had looked it up. I have the number of an acupuncture place that can do acupuncture and moxibustion...but alas they are closed...will have to call monday...argh! darn holidays messing up my efforts here. I did also order moxa sticks so I can do it at home too.

I figured you'd be trying every trick in the book. Lol It must be stressful though. I'm still not certain my LO is going to stay vertex. There's way too much movement going on for me to get comfortable in that regard.

What are your thoughts on breech vaginal, or even labouring and waiting for baby to turn? What are your care providers saying? (if you even want to go there at this point)

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well the MWs at the birth center can't do breech vaginal births...just the laws regarding birth centers :roll: I have heard that there are a couple local OBs who will deliver breech babies vaginally, but they won't take on new patients this late in the pregnancy. What good is it to have that skill if the patients who need you can't transfer to your care?!?!?! I don't even know who these docs are...just heard from the other lady at our birth refresher class that they do exist.

i would prefer to attempt a vaginal delivery, especially considering I am not a FTM and have a "good pelvis" according to the MWs Lol right now, we are looking at attempting a version if he is still breech. if that doesn't work, then I will talk to them about options, other docs, etc.

I half joked with DH "what would they (docs at the hospital) do if I showed up ready to push out a breech baby???" wooops! sorry doc, I thought he was head down!

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I really hope he turns for you! When my LO was still breech and I was doing a lot of worrying about it, my plan was to, in addition to everything you're already doing, getting the contact info for the doctors at Magee who apparently will do a breech birth and pretty much begging them to take me on... lol! I don't know how you would find their names (the midwives might know) or how well that would work, but I figure it would be worth contacting them and asking. The worst they would do would be to say no... but they might say yes too, who knows? I'm with you in that I would rather attempt a breech delivery than go straight to a section, assuming all else failed. I know there are more risks than with a vertex baby, but I also know that it can be, and is done, and I think its total crap that doctors won't even do them anymore!

Oh and I always "fall asleep" when listening to hypnobabies tracks, lol... apparently you're not truly asleep, just in really deep hypnosis!

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well i took a break from holding a flashlight on my abdomen and funneling music through a paper towel tube to do some more preparing for baby Lol Today I put the infant base in DH's car...which involved moving DS's carseat to the driver's side, since DH and I are both so tall, the infant seat or rear facing convertible seat cannot fit behind the driver.

don't think i mentioned it here but...wednesday when I had the day off and DS was at daycare (since we had an extra daycare day with the holidays), I put the infant base in my car. I also bought a bunch of postpartum supplies...overnight pads, witch hazel, depends for early on, and a sitz bath. i was impressed at Rite Aid's selection. I usually go to walgreens b/c it is closer to our house, and they didn't have witch hazel or sitz baths last time i buzzed through there. Since i won't get a sitz bath from the hospital like when DS was born, I bought one. I will be freezing some pad ice packs in the next few weeks with the pads and witch hazel.

The Christmas stuff is slowly getting put away this weekend and I will continue to get more baby stuff out and ready. I really wanted to cook and freeze some meals...but I am so not interested in going to all that effort...ugh

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Sorry I'm just tuning into your lodge now, but I wanted to say welcome! Sounds like you have a lot of things ready to go. I've been thinking about freezing meals as well, but the extra work just seems too hard... haha

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warning...small vent....
I hate being stressed and spending all this time upside down, hot/cold packs, music through paper towel tube, flashlight on my belly, etc...and when I am not doing those things I am stressing about how maybe I should be (Ex. we were out at a family friend's for dinner for several hours, and I was getting all anxious about getting home to do SOMETHING to try to get this guy head down). This is not relaxing, I cannot enjoy being preggo for the last month or so, and I don't feel like getting any other baby/birth stuff ready... this has me in a major funk!!!!
/vent

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"LMCH" wrote:

warning...small vent....
I hate being stressed and spending all this time upside down, hot/cold packs, music through paper towel tube, flashlight on my belly, etc...and when I am not doing those things I am stressing about how maybe I should be (Ex. we were out at a family friend's for dinner for several hours, and I was getting all anxious about getting home to do SOMETHING to try to get this guy head down). This is not relaxing, I cannot enjoy being preggo for the last month or so, and I don't feel like getting any other baby/birth stuff ready... this has me in a major funk!!!!
/vent

I totally understand how you feel hun, I was the same way with my first and she stayed breech till three days before her 'due date' and ended waiting another 3 days to make her grand entrance (face up but at least head down) You can keep up with the upside-down/temp/music/jumping jacks but it sounds to me like your just getting yourself more and more worked up about it. Maybe take a day of doing absolutely nothing about the whole breech situation, ban it from your thoughts and mind (great practice for labor too) and focus on some of the joy that you will have when LO finally does arrive. Do something fun for the nursery or pack your go bag (if you haven't already) write a letter to LO about how stubborn the little one is even inside you! It may do nothing, or after a day of relaxing you may find it worked and flipped LO, either way you need a break from thinking about it or your going to tire yourself out long before you get around to actually giving birth! Have faith, it will all work out in the end! Heck... if you ask my mom her breech labor with my sister was shorter and easier than the right way around with me! LOL (though she'd not recommend it as a trend for sure.)

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I am just reading your lodge and loved catching up on your stories...and your family photo is great - I cannot believe how BIG your son is!

As far as your frustration with trying to spin this one head down - I can't even imagine. I'm sure I'd feel the same frustration as well. But you are doing a great job with encouraging this one to flip...maybe the chiro and acupuncture will help too!

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yeah I had thought about how all the stressing is not doing me any good...perhaps I will make DH keep DS for a bit so I can have some me time tomorrow... sleep in or nap, pedicure...something!

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well I started the day by sleeping in until a little after 9:30. DS got up around 7:30, and since I wake up so much more easily, I went and helped him on the potty, then brought him into our room and told DH it was my turn to sleep in. DH tried to get DS to come in our bed to watch cartoons, but DS was like "I want breakfast Daddy" Lol

Later in the morning, I cuddled and watched Cars with DS. When he had his nap, I started working on shirts/onesies. I will post pics when they are done. DH and I finally raised the crib mattress back up and put the rail back on. After that, I felt like I was on a roll, so I moved the quilt that we have hanging on the wall. It used to be over the changing table, but when we rearranged the furniture, we never moved the quilt. I also put Nathan's name letters on the wall above his headboard...since we took them off the wall when we rearranged furniture. I left some of the nails over the crib and moved some of them over (since the crib is closer to the door than it used to be). Right now there are enough nails there to spell Aaron, which is what we are 99% set on for baby boy's name.

Perhaps one of these busy days I should pack a labor bag Lol

Tomorrow afternoon is my u/s to double check baby boy's position. If he is breech on u/s, I will try calling the acupuncture place back (they were closed friday for the holiday)...and my chiro wanted to know what the u/s said and told me to give him a call. Wednesday is my MW appointment, where we can discuss options. They are also doing my GBS swab that day. Just realized I should probably get someone to come with me to keep DS happy while they do that, since normally I am fully clothed and able to chase him around the exam room if needed Lol

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That is awesome that you had such a productive day! I hope you get good news about the baby's position at your ultrasound tomorrow- keep us posted!

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here are the shirts I did today...
Onesie for baby boy:

Shirt and Onesie for Nathan and "baby brodder":

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Those shirts turned out so cute!! Good luck today!!

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awww those shirts are so cute!

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I love the shirts!

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the ultrasound verdict is in... (XP from 1/11 BB)

....and my mommy instinct was right after all...he is head down!!! I am over the moon!

So at least 2 of the 3 people at the MW office (1 MW and 1 nurse practitioner) were wrong about the breech thing...since despite all the crazy techniques I have been doing, he hasn't moved in the last 2-3 weeks...and I have been feeling a hard, head like object down low when I do breech tilts. Today, the ultrasound tech affirmed that that IS in fact a head down there.

I am a little annoyed that they were wrong and had me worrying and almost literally jumping through hoops the last few weeks...but I am mostly just happy he is head down. I would much rather the u/s have proven them wrong and have him head down, than the u/s have shown that he was breech, if you know what I mean. Anywho...I am in such a better mood this afternoon and I am glad I spent yesterday doing non-worrisome, anti-breech activities.

thanks for all the thoughts, suggestions, prayers, etc.

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Yahoo Yay for head down! Sorry you had to stress so much because the MW was wrong.

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That is fantastic news! I am so glad he is head down!

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The shirts are super cute btw!

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