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*~*~* Rebecca's (rmacburn) Birth Lodge *~*~*

Welcome to your lodge!

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YAY!!!! Another lodge to follow! So excited for your second VBAC!

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Yay Rebecca - welcome to your lodge!

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Welcome to your lodge!!!

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Yippee!! I've been on the board for the last 40 minutes and just noticed my own lodge! I can't believe it's time. It meant a lot to me to have this support and a place to chat last time, I have all 100+ pages of Gabriel's lodge printed off... Smile

I have to take my daughter to swimming lessons this morning, but I'll do a little intro later today.

Quick update: At my appointment with my GP this week, baby was head down! He had been flipping all over just like his brother... now that I'm 36 weeks I hope he continues like his brother and stays put.

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Time for a little intro! My toddler is sleeping and I have a hot chocolate in hand. Wink

Hubby and I met between my second and third years of university in 2003. Two years later we were married.

We knew we wanted a baby soon after. In fact, we were married in September and I was pregnant in October, although that pregnancy wasn’t meant to last and ended in an early miscarriage. Two months after we got another positive pregnancy test and this time, baby stuck. DD was “due” on Halloween in 2006. It was an uneventful pregnancy (other than the fact that I threw up for the entire duration). Our family doctor still delivers babies, so he was my care provider. He’s very respectful and not intervention-controlled like a lot of (or all of…) the Obs around here. I went into her birth with the thought that I wanted a natural birth, but I did very little to actually prepare. I didn’t write a birth plan because I had done a rotation during nursing school on the birth unit and personally witnessed nurses and doctors making fun of some of the ones other moms brought.

My last belly picture from that pregnancy (around 36 weeks I think?)

Since my doctor is not an obstetrician and he has baby privileges at a large tertiary care centre, he does have to consult with Obs if anything is out of the “ordinary”. Once 41 weeks “overdue” I had to attend a post dates clinic at the hospital, and they scheduled an induction for 41 weeks 3 days. The day before, I requested that my doc sweep my membranes to hopefully get things moving.

It worked, and at 1:30am on induction day I was already at the hospital in labour with contractions every 3-4 minutes and 5cm dilated. My water broke shortly after arriving. Right away, I had a saline lock in place and I was being offered pain medication. I was told that if I didn’t get the epidural between the next 2 c-sections that I might not be able to have one. I was coping fine, but not knowing what I was facing and not having a clear plan in mind, I gave into the idea of being medicated. To make a long long story short, I ended up having IV fentynl, two different medications for vomiting, and the epidural which took 2.5 hours to start and that completely paralyzed me from the armpits down. Pretty good for someone that didn’t even take a Tylenol during the rest of the pregnancy!

After all the pain medication and being stuck in bed, labour slowed and they started pitocin. DD started to have some meconium in the fluid and some decelerations in her heart rate. I was fully dilated for a couple of hours when they asked me to do a test push. I pushed once. They then said (the hospital obstetrical resident), “You can either have the c-section now, or push for a few hours and have an emergency c-section later. It will be fine, I‘ve had 3 c-sections myself.” I was wheeled to the OR. My baby came out blue, requiring bagging and narcan to counteract the narcotics.

Her welcome to the world…

First time seeing my beautiful new daughter…

I remember wanting to look at every millimetre of her, but I only had a chance to study her eyebrow before she was taken to the NICU. It was the most amazing eyebrow I had ever seen!

First time touching her, three hours after she was born…

And first time holding her, but just for a few minutes…

After her birth, I vowed that the next time would be different. Long before I got pregnant again (a year later), I was planning my vbac (story to come!).

And my girl today…

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lol, her eyebrow is still really adorable! Smile Where were you married? Looks like heaven to me.

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I got pregnant with my son soon after my daughter’s 1st birthday. Right away I started reading natural birth stories, posting on this board, reading great books and preparing for the birth. I told my doctor at the very first visit that I wouldn’t be having another c-section. He thought that was a great plan.

It was another uneventful pregnancy (and with only a little bit of vomiting.. Haha). This time I regularly saw a chiropractor to keep things loose and I hired a doula. I wrote my birth plan with militant authority! My son was “due” September 11th, 2008. Right after I hit 40 weeks, I again attended the “post dates” clinic at the hospital. They checked baby, all was well, and they didn’t even mention induction until I heard the resident on the phone setting up my induction appointment for the next day, at 40 weeks 2 days. I basically said, “Yeah right.” and let her schedule it for 41 weeks 4 days.

As I did with my daughter, a couple of days before the scheduled induction I asked my doctor to do a membrane sweep. It was not going to happen. My cervix was still high, posterior and closed. But never fear! At 4:30am on induction day, I showed at the hospital with contractions 3-4 minutes apart and 4-5cm dilated, my water broke just after arriving (sound familiar?). This time, my doctor, knowing I wanted a low-no invention birth, asked the nurse to put me in observation. This meant I could labour on my own without even having a nurse check on me more than a couple of times. At 7am, there was a shift change and I was officially admitted and a nurse was assigned to my care. Things were progressing nicely and shortly after (about 7:30am), I was fully dilated and my body started pushing on it’s own. I got through the contractions with the birth ball, lower back counter pressure, sitting backwards on the toilet and the support from my lovely doula. I had no IV, no medication, I wore my own clothing and at this point I had only one cervical check when I first arrived.

Pushing was no easy feat. It took 3 hours to bring him down to crowning. During this time I was being hassled by the hospital obstetrician and his cronies. They came in frequently mentioning a c-section and once they could see his head, forceps. I used the old act-like-you’re-deaf routine and they would go away for a little while. One of them even marched in, wanting to stick her hand in my girlie bits to check for progress and said, “so how is your epidural working for you?” When my family doc said, “She doesn’t have one.” She actually scoffed slightly and checked for the IV pole and pump behind my head. It proved to me that they had little idea about what was happening, they just wanted a chance to practice surgery or an instrument delivery.

At 10:53am, my son made his grand entrance. Out of my vagina, without the aforementioned forceps. Ha! I even reached down and pulled him to my chest myself. It was the most amazing and empowering experience of my life. I actually said, “I pushed him out of my vagina! I did it!” And his head was a half an inch bigger than my daughter’s, dispelling the notion that my daughter required a c-section because she didn’t fit.

My son’s welcome to the world, first time being touched and held:

Crying happy and relieved tears:

Having some bewb, I think I was still getting some stitches here…

Meeting his big sister only a short time after he was born…

Where he stayed until I got up to shower and eat a hamburger…

I would love for this birth to be very similar to my son’s. There are a few differences that would be awesome, but if it were exactly the same, I’d be happy.

My son today (or recently anyway)…

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"JorgieGirl" wrote:

lol, her eyebrow is still really adorable! Smile Where were you married? Looks like heaven to me.

Here in Nova Scotia, on the north shore. We had pictures taken on the beach. Smile

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I love the story of your son's birth! What a 180 from your daughter's entrance to the world! Amazing!

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That first nursing pic should make you the poster child for VBAC. How gorgeous!!! Did you have Stef for your doula? I think I remember reading about your VBAC when it happened.

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What a fantastic story with your son! Wishing you all the best for your second successful VBAC!

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"Amber_daisy" wrote:

That first nursing pic should make you the poster child for VBAC. How gorgeous!!! Did you have Stef for your doula? I think I remember reading about your VBAC when it happened.

Yes, Stef was my doula. Smile

This time around I've hired a doula in my town. Due to the weather, it's possible that I won't make it to my chosen hospital (an hour away), so even if I end up with one of the most dreaded OBs imaginable in this town, I'll still have my doula!

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Oh man, what cute kids! I want to kiss your family doc, he sounds like he's got his head on straight! Is he delivering this baby too?

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"Melissa1223" wrote:

Oh man, what cute kids! I want to kiss your family doc, he sounds like he's got his head on straight! Is he delivering this baby too?

Yes, he's my doctor again. I really do like him, but my first choice would have been to have this baby at home with a midwife, but Nova Scotia is in this weird stage of midwifery. They decided that in order for it to be fully legislated and financially covered, that they need to do trial midwifery practices in only three towns. If you don't live in the immediate area, then you don't get a midwife. They've completely ignored all the research on safety and the models in other areas and decided to do their own... it's ridiculous.

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welcome and thanks for sharing your stories. you look gorgeous in the pics following your DS's birth...hope your upcoming birth is just as wonderful!

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Woot welcome to your lodge mama. What a great story, I love your OB as well, too bad more of them weren't like that.

I have to agree that your first nursing pic should be in a magazine, absolutely beautiful.

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Woot welcome to your lodge mama. What a great story, I love your OB as well, too bad more of them weren't like that.

I have to agree that your first nursing pic should be in a magazine, absolutely beautiful.

He's actually not an OB, he's a GP.. I think that's why he's good. Wink

I guess I'll talk a bit about this pregnancy. My hubby and I decided that we would just let baby #3 happen when he or she happened. I found out I was pregnant when my son was a few months shy of two, in June of last year. We were happy, but it was odd to not have the same rush of excitement that we had with the first two, I guess it becomes old hat by pregnancy #4 and baby #3!

This pregnancy has thus far been uneventful. I was a little sick for the first 16 weeks or so, but it wasn't too bad. We haven't officially found out the gender, but at the routine ultrasound we're fairly certain we saw multiple shots of boy parts (they won't tell you the gender at this ultrasound). So I've been calling the baby a "he" but we could be surprised.

I had the GBS swab done last week, so that's one of the last things I'm waiting for (I've been negative before, but I've had a strange feeling that I might be positive this time.. I have no idea why I think this). The other thing that makes me a little uneasy is my baby's wiggle room on the inside. He was head down at my last appointment, but I will still often feel hiccups up high and what appears to be a head near my ribs occasionally. I hope he settles into a nice head-down LOA position soon. Smile

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Sending Neg vibes! And stay head down vibes! Cheeky buddy.

Do you have a personal feeling on when lo will make his/her appearance?

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Sending Neg vibes! And stay head down vibes! Cheeky buddy.

Do you have a personal feeling on when lo will make his/her appearance?

March 22nd has been in my mind. My husband is predicting that this baby will be early, perhaps a good 10-14 days... I'd be happy with somewhere in the middle.

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I loved readying your two birth stories. I'm so glad you have your lodge now.

March 22nd? That would be a good day, but I think a little earlier woud be even better Smile

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Your birth stories brought tears to my eyes. I am sooo happy that you were able to get the vbac you wanted. It sounds like things are going great for you now though. Are you still seeing a Chiro?

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"Mom2ThreeKiddos" wrote:

Your birth stories brought tears to my eyes. I am sooo happy that you were able to get the vbac you wanted. It sounds like things are going great for you now though. Are you still seeing a Chiro?

Yes, I'm seeing the chiro every two weeks right now. I go next week and will likely go every week until baby comes after that.

On another note, I'm fairly certain I have a head near my ribs again! This baby needs to turn in the proper direction.

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Turn baby, turn!

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Thank you so much for sharing your birth stories! I'm hoping my first VBAC will be as wonderful as yours was! It was very encouraging to me to read your story. I hope your little one settles into a good position and stays there for you!

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Well I hope the baby turns if it is head up.

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Hey Rebecca! congrats on your lodge! sending you head down vibes! also, I remember feeling hiccups high up w/ DS2 and being nervous, until I realized that his head was so low that I was feeling his butt bumping w/ the hiccups instead of his head! here's hoping!

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I am so sorry I missed this earlier. Your storied were a great read. I think you look absolutely beautiful in the pictures after DS was born.

sending GBS- vibes!

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Every time I stand up today I need to pee. My previous babies seem to float pretty high right until labour starts, but this baby seems lower today, I can feel a little pressure on the front of my pubic bone.

I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow. I'm really hoping baby is head down. I've been brushing up on research related to breech birth just in case I need it, as well as the SOGC practice guidelines on breech birth... (I don't recommend googling "symphysiotomy" :eek: ) .

As far as baby-preparations go, I have a few things left to do. I need to pack a hospital bag for myself, and I would like a bouncy chair for the baby (love this for getting a shower and still seeing the baby), and I really want a double jogging stroller. I plan on running again after the baby arrives, and with a little booby monster and the time of year, I think I would get a lot of use out of it. The one I want is slightly pricey... I'm thinking if the grandparents want to buy a baby gift, maybe they'd throw in on the stroller? That would be nice. Smile

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I loved reading your birth stories! Sounds like you've got a fabulous support team in place!

Regarding breech births... The current recommendation to offer women the choice of vag delivery or c/s (assuming your care provider is trained in breech births). I work in a small community hospital and we've done a few lately.

Crazy about the midwife trial thing. I'm in BC and mw have been covered by medical for over 10 years! Sounds like you are close to getting mw care approved.

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At my appointment today, babes was transverse. :confused: My last three appointments he has been breech, vertex and then transverse. At least he's not stuck in one position. That's positive right?

I think I'm going to try skipping my chiropractor appointment next week. Does it make sense that perhaps my bones are too open and movable? When baby is stuck in a breech position, a chiropractor can help fix things to give him more room to move... maybe it can sometimes work in the opposite direction, giving him too much room? Looking back at pregnancy with my son, I stopped going to the chiro around 33 weeks because my coverage was maxed out, and he didn't settle into a head down position until 36 weeks.

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Hmmm I not sure. Can you feel baby flipping? Did your care provider feel concerned about out. You are a 2nd time vbac right? I really hope baby settles head down soon for you.

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I hope baby settles head down for you soon! Mine didn't settle this time til around 35 weeks. And this is your 3rd, so you have an even roomier uterus, right? Biggrin (Positive thinking!) Maybe download the Hypnobabies script for breech babies?

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Going for an ultrasound on Tuesday to determine exactly what position baby is in this week. I've really been watching my posture and have been doing the breech tilt occasionally (I don't remember the blood rush to the head when I did this for my son!).

Otherwise I'm feeling pretty good, albeit slower these days ;). People have been saying, "You must be due soon!" for several months, it's kind of nice that I can now say, "Yes, I am."

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Oh I have people say that to me and I am only 30w. LOL So I can imagine. I hope baby is in a good position at your next appt.

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lol, I've been getting the "you must be ready to pop" comment. Love how people have no clue how to talk to a preggo eh? :rolleyes:

I hope the babe is in a good position for you, bounce on that ball mama

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Yay for feeling great at 37 weeks - and I am with you on the ridiculous "nearly due" comments, people really need to engage their brains first! Smile

Hope the ultrasound goes well and baby has decided to behave itself!

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I had an ultrasound today to check on baby's position. Head down! Yeah! I hope he stays that way.

And here's a picture of baby making duck lips. Smile And he is definitely a boy.

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Yay that is great news. Hi baby!

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Woohoo for head down!!! That is absolutely great news and I am so pleased for you!

Also congrats on the confirmation of your son Smile

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Yay!!! That's awesome!!!

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love those profile shots, he's a cutie for sure. I'm so glad he's head down now, I can't believe how close we all are now.

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Pregnant ladies here have a prenatal record that is filled in at each visit throughout pregnancy, toward the end it is given to the mama and she brings it with her to the hospital when she's in labour so regardless of who her care giver is, they have a record of any issues and care she had for the last 40sih weeks. Just wanted to share that I'm a little excited about what my first vbac has done for the preparation for my second vbac... my prenatal record last time had "vbac" written in the "problems/issues" box at the top. This time, nothing. Smile At my ultrasound yesterday, while the nurse was filling out paperwork, she only required info from my last birth, so under "previous births", it was marked as "vaginal".

Something that annoyed me last time was the fact that the hospital viewed me as having a problem. Now that I have a "proven pelvis" (a term I also hate), I am far less "risky" and betting that I will be left alone a little more by the obs team and his/her crony residents. I guess we shall see!

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Yay for no "Problems". that would bug me as well!

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It's amazing how simple words can make all the difference to how you are treated by medical staff... I imagine that for you as well the psychological boost of being lower risk with no "problems" would be fantastic?

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I love the saying "proven Pelvis" :rolleyes: like your body has to prove itself to someone that it can do what it was naturally meant to do. Yay for for being "problem" free

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Proven pelvis indeed. LOL I need one of those. Wink

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Ugh, yeah the proven pelvis thing gets me too. What gets me is when they say it to you, as though you're going to think it's fine 'well, you're a proven pelvis so x,y,z is totally fine this time'. I mean, no, *I* am a human being, how's about? Blum 3 Sorry... that's one of the terms that gets me (like 'being sectioned'). Language is SO important (that's why I did my graduate research on language and childbirth! ha!)

Anyway - congrats on all the good news. Smile

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It is terrific that they won't even have the "vbac" issue in their minds!!! What a great bonus, are you more confident this time too?

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That is so great that your medical records this time around are free from any of that nonsense! The proven pelvis thing bothers me too. I had a c-section because my baby was in major fetal distress, not because my pelvis couldn't handle a vaginal delivery. Oh well! I'm glad that this time you have a "proven pelvis!" Lol!

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