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Hi hun, welcome to your lodge!! Sorry it's a bit late:) Wishing you all the best with your birth.

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Welcome to your lodge! Can't wait to hear about your last few weeks and your delivery -- reading these lodges really helps pass the time while I'm stuck back here in the 2nd tri!

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Congrats on the lodge, you're almost there!

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Hi! Thanks for the welcome ladies! I wasn’t really expecting a birth lodge here, but I am glad to have one!!

I'll start with an introduction, my name is Robin and I am mother to Johnny, he just turned two on Feb 7. John and I have been together almost 5 years now. We met through family because my cousin is married to his sister. I met him at a co-ed softball game and from the first moment I saw him, I knew he was my one. We got pregnant with Johnny in May 2006, it was something we both wanted very much. My pregnancy with Johnny was wonderful, he was born a day after his due date. My body is a little sensitive to pregnancy compared to other women in my family, but I still love and enjoy it very much!

With Johnny, I was so excited to finally be a mother. I couldn’t wait to meet my son and hold him, I thought I read all that I could on labor/birth and had pictured a regular birth with no complications. I went into labor about 4 days before my due date; at least it’s what I thought it was. I had pretty strong contractions (to me) and they were all in my back. I had no idea what this meant, and nobody told me it was because my son was posterior. This went on and off for 5 days. I was going into either the doctor’s office or the hospital every day thinking this was going somewhere. I was progressing very slowly, meanwhile having contractions pretty regularly day and night. Finally on the 5th day the nurse practitioner said this was enough and I was very relieved, she stretched me to a 4 and sent me to the hospital to be admitted. Finally got admitted and got the epidural. I was exhausted and so worn out by that time. The doctor came in and broke my water and the contractions started getting stronger. I had the epidural in and working but could still feel pain on one side of my body. I then started getting a fever and throwing up a lot, they gave me ice packs to cool my temperature and both our heart rates and my blood pressure were through the roof! I did dilate to 10cm but Johnny was under a little distress. She just told me to bear down like during a bowel movement for like a minute and didn’t really explain what was going on. I was just totally scared for myself and my baby. She said there is no way this baby is coming out of my pelvis and that it is too narrow. I am sad to say, at that time I was ok with all of this. I had not informed myself enough to trust myself and my body. I ended up with an emergency c-section. I saw Johnny for a second and since there was a risk of infection they whisked him off to the nursery to get him on antibiotics and to get his temperature down. I had to be alone in recovery for an hour and then didn’t get to see my child for 6 hours after I had him. They weren’t even "allowed" to take him out of the nursery and I was going to have to wait till the next day, but the nurse was nice and decided to let me see my baby because I started getting frantic. I was in such euphoria that I was just happy that my baby was here and ok. We still bonded and breastfed extremely well. I believe we are lucky in that aspect because I very much believe that immediate contact helps a lot in those departments and it could have easily went differently. This time, no immediate contact or bonding will be unacceptable!



I was "ok" about the c-section and was a little confused about the CPD diagnosis but was still going to go ahead with RCS with this baby because it was hospital policy and I was scared of the idea of driving far away. Not a single one of the OB’s after I gave birth or when I got pregnant again told me that I had the option of VBAC and could still see someone locally, but would have to travel to give birth. I never knew much about it, except they used to do it routinely about 10-15 years ago locally and now they don’t. About mid-way through this pregnancy, I started second questioning my medical community and realized I am angry about how my first labor and birth went. I found a midwife in the area who I felt very comfortable talking to and trusted immediately. She explained to me why this hospital works the way it does and that VBAC really is the safest route. If I had found her earlier in the pregnancy, I would have definitely hired her as a doula (There is always next time!). Apparently midwife-assist home VBAC is illegal in this state. I started researching and realized that I could have done SO many things differently and could have been in charge with my own care to make sure my baby was delivered the way a woman was made to deliver. I decided that another major abdominal surgery scares the crap out of me, the risks of infection, the risks of complications with future pregnancies, and the risks of undergoing a major surgery for no medical necessity except to "go along" with hospital policies. Sure the risk of VBAC is still a little scary to me and will probably be nagging a little bit in the back in my mind, but I believe in my body and I believe that it is overall the best choice for me and my baby. This was my golden chance with only one previous c-section. I definitely don’t believe my pelvis is "too" narrow or that I can possibly make a "too big" baby for me to give birth to. I believe this tiny hospital and doctors like to cover their butts and are knife and induction happy to get more money and fit their schedules. I will continue to see my current OB till 37 weeks, and at 38 weeks I will see the perinatologist again to make sure everything is in order. I was able to continue seeing my current OB and then the perinatologist team (that will be delivering) here where I live which is great for us economically, but at one point I was fully prepared to continue my prenatal care in the other city and drive back and forth about 1.5-2 hours. I feel like I still have a lot of reading and preparing to do, but basically feel very comfortable with decisions I will need to make and being able to stand firm when I need to which is a downside to having my baby in the hospital. I shouldn’t have to be “prepared” to go in for a fight. But honestly, I don’t think it will be much of a fight. If I didn’t have the experience I did before, I would be full on board with home birth. I am going to TRY my very best to do this without any drugs! I do have a very low pain tolerance and am a little scared, but it’s really something I want to do and I think I can do it. I am scared of the epidural and side effects of drugs (even though I had them last time), and I really just want to give myself fully to this natural, amazing process! I've heard that regular contractions are a little easier than back labor? I don’t know, but here's to hoping! I'm hoping this labor will progress fast (at least faster than last time) I am so scared of having another c-section, that I will be so disappointed and upset if I don’t get this VBAC that I have worked really hard for. Along with loads of research on VBAC I am trying to obtain as much information I can about breathing techniques and natural pain relief and doing exercises to make sure this baby is in an anterior position. If he just wants to be like his brother and be posterior I will just have to try even harder to open up my pelvis and get him through no matter what! I have visited the hospital and I just have this wonderful feeling about it. It is complete opposite and much more relaxed than the hospital in my community. They have an 80-85% VBAC success rate, and I feel so much safer. I feel like everything is falling into place and will go right this time. Anyway, this has gotten very long. I feel like I’m maybe a little too patient and enjoying these last few weeks. I’m waiting for the day that I will freak out to get everything ready and prepared, but feel like I have plenty of time. I am excited about bringing another son and brother into the world, and on my own terms!

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Welcome to your lodge, Robin! Good luck with your VBAC!

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Welcome to your lodge, and best of luck to you! Biggrin

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Welcome! Hope your experience this time is much more pleasant and to your liking/desires. KUP!

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Welcome to your lodge!! Can't wait to hear about your VBAC!!

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welcome to your lodge. I hope your vbac goes well

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Welcome to your lodge, hope to hear about your successful VBAC in a few weeks Smile

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How are you feeling today? I hope your doing well, and I look forward to hearing your sucessfull VBAC story soon:)

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I have been feeling pretty great! I have to admit i think a lot has to do with the chiropractor. I no longer have back pains during the night and interrupting my sleep. between the chiro visits and my new bed i really cant complain about sleep. Although I wouldnt mind a catheter be put in until after delivery LOL. I dread getting up to use the bathroom anymore! I am stressing about getting taxes done, baby gear washed and maternity leave papers done... and its kinda sinking in that I have about only 3 weeks left to get all this done. I have a OB appointment today, then see the perinatologist on monday. Thats really the big one I care about. I talked to the hosptal about their monitoring and IV rules for VBACers and they said its all up to the doc so ill have lots of questions. I had already talked to them a little and they told me they dont want to induce if im late which I dont want anyway! and my US on monday will estimate how big the baby is. Hopefully they wont give me the too big baby bit and i will start labor on my own. my first was 8lb 10oz. but, I honestly feel like they are on my side and have done lots of successful VBACs so i feel like im in good hands. I just need to do all I can on my end to make sure things go differently.

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That's great that you're feeling so well!! GL with the perintologist!!

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Well I have been into see my OB for the last time, everything looked good. I declined the cervical check. I don’t really have any issues with them except I personally just didn’t see the point and lets face it, they aren’t fun. During my first pregnancy it felt like I was getting checked at every single appointment and I kid you not. I thought it was the norm, but when I switched different OB’s this time, they said they only do them at 12 and 38 weeks. It was so awesome to go through a whole pregnancy without getting poked down there. I can barely stand DTD right now. There will be a time where I will give in and hopefully that will be labor. I was also informed that if I think I am in labor I need to go in and they will determine and send me to the bigger city by ambulance. I understand I am technically their patient, but will definitely find a way around that. I will either drive up on my own or stay up there a couple days prior and after my EDD. It just totally threw me off. I’ve had a plan this whole time, and an ambulance was not part of it. I think it’s safe to say that I will not have my baby in the car on an hour and a half drive to the hospital. If anything I am expecting the drawn out labor that I had with my first.

I finally got my medical records from my first pregnancy. Cephalo pelvic disproportion was not what was listed as the cause for C-section. Even though that’s clearly what she said it was the minute before they were preparing me for surgery. I was diagnosed with FTP and chorioamnionitis. Even though I made it to 9cm and can be I think if I waited a little longer I could have reached 10 and was able to get up and moving around he could have turned to more easier position. Now, I am not a doctor so I could be very wrong, but that possibility that it could have went differently kind of upsets me. I looked up the chorioamnionitis and it sounded a lot like what happened and was likely caused by AROM and occurs in up to 2% of births in the US. Seems kind of low and am baffled as to how I could be in that 2%? But that’s in the past, and I need to focus on things going differently this time. It was just a little interesting to learn after all this time…

I saw the perinatologist last Monday and got an U/S. Baby is measuring 6lbs 14oz and I was guessing he was about 7 lbs by then. I spoke to the doctor about monitoring and he wants me to be monitored, hopefully they will allow me to move around and not be monitored constantly. He also said by 40 week, which is the 16th, if I’m not dilated or have any kind of cervical change they seriously recommend c-section by that time. I told him that if by 41 weeks if nothing has happened we can talk about the c-section as long as nothing is out of the ordinary. I have been having some contractions, not overly painful and nothing consistent but I feel like they are doing something. I feel very different this past week. I still don’t think anything will be happening until around my EDD, but I honestly don’t think I will go past my due date. But I am the type that doesn’t like restrictions. He said he doesn’t think I will have any problems. Which is nice to hear, but his attitude sure did change from when I saw him at 27 weeks. I have an appointment again today with the perinatologist only I will see another doc in their office. I guess they have a couple of midwives and kind of hoping to see one of them. Where I will be asking the same questions just to double check and get a better idea of what I am dealing with. I am still feeling pretty good about all of this, but my EDD is in 10 days and I have to prepare for anything. I am trying to wrap my mind around the fact that I could possibly end up with another c-sec and I know I must prepare myself to be ok with this, but it’s going to be much harder than last time. But I am much more confident with the knowledge I have obtained the past few months and feel much healthier than I was at the end with Johnny. I have been seeing a chiropractor and have gained less than half of what I did with Johnny. I haven’t had much noticeable swelling and I’m feeling great with less than 2 weeks left.

I am relieved that I have gotten my maternity leave papers for work finished, clothes washed and put away, P&P, bassinet, and car seat washed and ready for baby. Hopefully taxes don’t and tires bought and put on by today or tomorrow! I’m slowly getting there, but am relieved already with what I did get done.

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I'm with you on declining cervix checks. I would prefer to avoid those. Yeah, I wouldn't want to go from the dr office to the hospital in an ambulance, either. It's good that you found out more about what happened last time so you can understand how to avoid another c-section.

Does your hospital have remote monitoring that would allow you to still move around while being monitored? If they don't and they want to monitor you continuously, I've heard you can just ask to go to the bathroom a lot.

I think you are wise to push of scheduling a c-section until after 41 weeks.

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I haven't had a cervical check yet, I didn't realize some places did them as early as 12 weeks! Hopefully your little guy will come in the next 10 days so you won't have to worry about fighting off a c-section, but good for you standing your ground til at least 41 weeks!

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So I had my appointment with the perinatologist yesterday and it turned out to be a pointless and frustrating trip. We left at 12:15 and got there just in time at 2:00pm. I waited for about 45 minutes before asking what the holdup was. I understand that appointments can run behind and especially in a bigger city, but I saw 10 women go in an out before me when they came in after. I finally asked the receptionist what the holdup, after all this was only supposed to be a consult to see a different doctor in that office. She said that doctor wanted to do a cervical check and was waiting on a room. I didn’t feel like going into a whole discussion on the issue so I figured they would send me in a little. So about 20 minutes later she said they are ready for me in the other office. I walk into the other office and there is another full waiting room full of unseen patients that came in after me. So they take my blood pressure, I take a urine sample which I thought was weird because they never do that. So finally after an hour and a half of waiting, the nurse takes me into the room and says the doctor wants to do an exam, I told her I would like to decline it. She looked at me confused for a minute and said ok, let me tell them that you decline. The doctor comes in and says “what was the reason you wanted to be seen”. I quickly said Dr. D wanted me to come up here for another consult with a different doctor in this office. I was just so upset because these people didn’t even know why I was up here and I wanted to cancel the minute I made the appt because I didn’t see the point. He apologized for being confused and just figured I was up here for a cervical exam. OMG! The discussion afterwards didn’t go much better. He said next time we really recommend a cervical exam, at which point we can see how you are progressing. If there is no cervical change then we will recommend a RCS at this time will be at 39.5. I asked him how common is it for a pregnant woman to go into labor before 40 weeks? He said it’s very common and because of VBAC they really don’t like to see a woman go past her EDD. I don’t have a degree to be a doctor but I thought it was more normal for a woman to go over her EDD? Then he said if you are dilated and soft then we will probably rupture your membranes to get you started. He was just really pushing this 39.5 week, getting labor started thing. This is in one week too! I asked him if he recommended anything natural to start first. He said “rupture of membranes, that’s the most natural its going to get”. I had to say “Artifical rupture of membranes?” What part of artificial means natural? He replied with “that’s what happens anyway when a womans body starts labor”. Really Doc? I was just so fed up! I told him they did AROM and that’s what likely caused my chorioamnionitis and I am trying to stay away from that whole scenario! Why am I making such an effort to do this VBAC far away from my home to have the same exact thing done as last time? He set me up with another appointment back up there so they can do a cervical exam to see how I was doing. I just went along and nodded towards the end or I would have burst into tears. I knew that by next week they wouldn’t even remember the conversation or me anyway. So I set up an appointment but was confused about transfer of care and billing issues. I don’t really care about billing issues, just give me the damn appointment. She said something about my reg OB and if I should see him or just keep going to them and asked what would be easiest for me. I told her it would be easiest for me to not drive 75 miles for a 2 hour consult. She nodded in agreement and said well we will be down there in SV next Monday so I quickly took that appt. Knowing they wont try anything at that time, because I wont be in the hospital campus and I would be 75 miles away with 3 more days till my due date. I just don’t understand these people! It is almost the exact thing I am trying to get away from except they will let me “attempt” to have a VBAC. He said I have a 70% chance of success, and we really want to help you. I just thought ya maybe with another doctor. He said I absolutely have to be monitored the whole time, but that I can also get up and move around because I guess they have telemetry. Like I said, I am just really having a hard time accepting these restrictions. I really have to start walking, DTD anything I can by the end of the week before they start pressuring me. It is just really upsetting! I could cancel my appointment and just go to the hospital when I am well into labor. My sister avoided her doc the whole week past her EDD, her doc got on her a little saying “why haven’t you come in, we would have had that baby last week.”

I understand the further I go past my EDD the more risks of complications arise, but why do they need to intervene at 39.5 weeks? I think a lot can happen between 39.5-40.5 weeks. That’s all I ask, and I am confident I will be able to push for that. It just really stinks that they pretend to be confident and in my corner until the last week. Am I being careless and selfish? Or does this guy sound like a total whack job?

On a happier note! The trip didn’t end in TOTAL disappointment. I got to come back with dunkin donuts and eegees! LOL

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So sorry to hear about your disappointing appointment, and the seeming lack of support from the only people who seem like they should be supporting it.

Do you have a doula? Maybe if you have a doula it would help you get the support you want/need at the hospital. After all, it can be tough to be in labour let alone have to maintain your consciousness sufficiently to argue for you and baby’s best interest. If someone else who is on board with you and you trust can help you, that would be great.

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That appointment does sound like a total bummer! And the doctor sounds little clueless about how pregnancy actually works, are you SURE he has a medical degree? :rolleyes: I really hope you get your VBAC after all the work you put into it, doctors in AZ sound less than supportive :confused:

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Sorry about your appointment. the dr did sound like a whack! Yay for Dunkin donuts!! I LOVE dunkin donuts!!

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I'm sorry you are dealing with frustrating people. It really sounds like they say they do VBACs to get more patients, but then they make it nearly impossible for you to actually have a VBAC with their policies, ie, you can only have a VBAC if, either you go into labor on your own before 39.5 weeks, or if an induction with AROM is successful at 39.5 weeks, otherwise it's repeat c/s for you--IMO, that is not a pro-VBAC way of operating. You are right about the number of spontaneous labors before vs. after 40 weeks. This is from Shelia Kitzinger's The Complete Book of Pregnancy and Childbirth

Studies show that only 5 percent of babies arrive on [the EDD]. If you look at the 95 babies out of 100 who do not put in an appearance on the "correct" date, you find that 3 out of 10 babies come before the EDD, and 7 out of 10 come after it

That sounds to me like a lot more women go into labor after 40 weeks than before. Are you sure about the time of conception? Perhaps you could convince them that your EDD is off? Although there is a statistically higher rate of some complications after 40 weeks, it doesn't apply to pregnancies that are dated 40 weeks that are actually 38 or 39 weeks. And some babies actually need to be in a little longer. If I were you, I would rather be closely monitored and wait for either an indication to induce or do a RCS or for spontaneous labor. You are not being selfish, I believe that there are more risks to inducing or doing a c/s than to letting your pregnancy go past 39.5 weeks. And to me, the dr. does sound like a whack job.

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"MrsMangoBabe" wrote:

I'm sorry you are dealing with frustrating people. It really sounds like they say they do VBACs to get more patients, but then they make it nearly impossible for you to actually have a VBAC with their policies, ie, you can only have a VBAC if, either you go into labor on your own before 39.5 weeks, or if an induction with AROM is successful at 39.5 weeks, otherwise it's repeat c/s for you--IMO, that is not a pro-VBAC way of operating. You are right about the number of spontaneous labors before vs. after 40 weeks. This is from Shelia Kitzinger's The Complete Book of Pregnancy and Childbirth That sounds to me like a lot more women go into labor after 40 weeks than before. Are you sure about the time of conception? Perhaps you could convince them that your EDD is off? Although there is a statistically higher rate of some complications after 40 weeks, it doesn't apply to pregnancies that are dated 40 weeks that are actually 38 or 39 weeks. And some babies actually need to be in a little longer. If I were you, I would rather be closely monitored and wait for either an indication to induce or do a RCS or for spontaneous labor. You are not being selfish, I believe that there are more risks to inducing or doing a c/s than to letting your pregnancy go past 39.5 weeks. And to me, the dr. does sound like a whack job.

I just noticed you are from AZ too. Not sure if you are familiar with the Tucson area but this is at TMC. Supposedly a great hospital for delivering babies and I must admit that my tour of L&D was awesome! It's just dealing with these perinatologists, there is also supposed to be about 10 doctors in that group? I've only seen two and this last one was terrible! I should probably have went to an OB in Tucson that a midwife I spoke to had suggested. I've decided to go to this appointment at 39.5 weeks but will definitely not make any AROM or C/S plans unless they let me go to 41 weeks, then we can discuss it. I'm kinda hoping to go into labor before that though... I will be walking, walking, walking this week! I am pretty certain with my conception date as I was keeping pretty close track with NFP for over a year and knew the moment after DTD we had made this baby!

Sarah - as for the doula, it is something I would love to have had. I had made this decision for VBAC about 23ish weeks into the pregnancy and the cost would be $1000. I just dont have that kind of money right now but will definitely be thinking of something like that for the next time. So it is just my mom and John, they very much know this is what I want and I am hoping they will be the great support that I need to do this!

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that doctor sounds crazy. I really hope things work out for you and you get your VBAC.

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Well from my very first appointment till I decided to do a 180 on my medical care today was the day set for RCS. I just had to share that as much as I am getting more and more anxious to meet this little man the closer my due date approaches, I would gladly wait another month to avoid a planned surgery to take him. I am so glad that I made this decision and feel like I truly made the safest decision for us. Im not going to lie that I lately I have been getting anxiety about the potentially dangerous outcomes of the VBAC. its just if i was in that 2% to develop that chorioamnionitis than I could very easily be in that low percentage for uterine rupture? But then I am confident in my health and really REALLY want this natural birth! Ive read so many inspiring success stories and honestly believe I could be one of those ladies too, but the unknown scares me and I feel so wishy washy! But there is no going back, not that I would want to.

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I think it's wonderful how you've done your research and found what's best for you and your baby. I know you'll succeed!! You have the drive to do it and you can!! I'm not even near your situation but know that even though this will be my 4th NCB I'm even getting anxity that this will be the one I remember as the worst! So far I don't have one that was the worst they were all different in their own ways, wonderful and I was very excited with each outcome. But you're not alone in feeling anxity. I look up to you for doing what you feel is best and not just give in to drs. You are amazing!

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"nibor_55" wrote:

I just noticed you are from AZ too. Not sure if you are familiar with the Tucson area but this is at TMC. Supposedly a great hospital for delivering babies and I must admit that my tour of L&D was awesome! It's just dealing with these perinatologists, there is also supposed to be about 10 doctors in that group? I've only seen two and this last one was terrible!

I'm in Phoenix, and I've only lived here for about 8 months (my DD was born in UT), so I'm not familiar with your area. I don't have any experience working with peri's, but it kind of makes since that dr's who are considered "specialists in high risk pregnancy" would be very intervention-minded. Large group practices can be so impersonal. Do you have to have one of these perinatologists at your birth, or can your other dr be there?

I'm glad you're pushing off talk of induction and rcs until 41 weeks, that gives you more time for your body to do something on it's own. I think you made the right decision to go for a VBAC. I think that you have less of a chance of two rare things (chorioamnionitis and uterine rupture) both happening to you.

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I am so happy for you! I remember the beginning days on the April board and you wanting a RCS. I believe that you will be happy with the decision that you have made. It really is a beautiful thing to be in control of your body. I hope that it goes the way you have planned.

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"MrsMangoBabe" wrote:

dr's who are considered "specialists in high risk pregnancy" would be very intervention-minded. Large group practices can be so impersonal. Do you have to have one of these perinatologists at your birth, or can your other dr be there?

This certainly does seem to be the way they work now, but the first time I saw them I felt so happy and excited and like they were really on my side. Their success rate is supposedly 75-80% and they reassured me that they are pro-VBAC. I guess it's one of those tricky big groups who pretend to be on your side at first. I have been told that there are 10 other specialists including two midwives. It depends on which is on call at that time. I would rather have a midwife assuming they are more on the natural approach. We'll just have to wait and see. This last guy did say he understands my concerns and wants to help and will allow me to move around and do this my way as well as theirs, but it was on the same breath as "we want to see you in a week and strongly recommend an exam." GRRRR!!! I'll tell him what he can do with his exam!

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I've dilligently followed your lodge and am so excited for you. As condescending and arrogant as this sounds, as well as a bit goofy from a complete "stranger," I'm so proud of you for sticking to your guns. You have one of the more uphill battles for achieving the VBAC and you are staying so strong and determined. Yay for you!!!!!

Any signs labor might be around the corner?

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Any signs labor might be around the corner?

I actually have been feeling either BH or contractions, I honestly don't know what they are? I know sounds so silly, but I never really had any BH or regular contractions with Johnny. I do feel much more pressure in my pelvic region and I know I have dropped. I definitely feel different and that progress is being made and LO is in a good position as these crampies I have been having are totally new and different than anything I have felt before.

I also have a question, has anyone ever experienced or heard of the chiropractor stimulating this supposed spot to start labor? My chiro suggested he is willing to try this on my EDD if nothing has happened by then? It sure sounds be better than AROM that my doctor is trying to pressure me into! but still dont know much about it?

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I cancelled my appt with the perinatologist today, even though it was in my town. I just didnt feel like taking off work 3 hours early to be pressured into an exam I am not ready for or any of their suggestions before my due date. This way, I have bought myself a week and will be about 40.5 weeks at which time I may start to consider something! Im really positive something will happen sooner than that though!

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You sneaky, sneaky, girl. Wink

I completely understand about not wanting to be pressured. I declined the cervical check today to avoid giving the OB any ammo.

I'm glad you feel like something is going to happen. I wish I were a little more positive in that area. Hopefully you're right and we'll be wishing you some ELVs in a day or so.

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Today has been a pretty crampy, nauseas day! Either I ate something bad yesterday or my body is cleaning house a bit and losing my appetite. It all just be morning sickness coming back from the hormones going crazy, happened at the end of my last pregnancy too. I thought that maybe a brisk walk could get some contractions going, but funny enough I did not get a single contraction! I shouldnt read too much into it, but I feel good because I never experienced anything like this with johnny so I feel like im headed in the right direction!

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I woke up this morning at about 6 with some heavy pressure and pain as i did yesterday but it quickly went away yesterday and i chalked it up to round ligaments or really bad gas pains cuz it was so low in my pelvis. but this morning they were stronger and consistent. its been going on since 6am every 3, 4, 5 minutes apart lasting about a minute. i know that i wont be jumping the gun and high tailing it to the hospital just yet because i sort of went through this with johnny. but we are on our way closer to the hospital now so i can be close by just in case! Im a huge baby and hoping i can tough this out once i get in a relaxing environment but man these are not fun! but i am thrilled that at least something has started.. maybe?? dont want to say for sure yet. I will try to update as soon as i can!

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Be careful or you'll end up having your little boy before I have Winifred! Wink

Here's to sustained, meaninful contractions that are productive.

And some MAJOR ELVs.

Stay strong and focused. Try lots of different positions. Have DH use counterpressure. Do you have a rice sock ready? If not, a generic men's tub sock filled a pound or 2 of rice and tied at the end. Pop in the microwave for 1-2 minutes (heating times vary depending on micro's power). Voila! Instant heat pack. The rice oil's retain their heat fairly well. Just be sure not to get it too hot as you don't want to raise your temperature artificially and cause them to think you're popping a fever.

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I hope this is it, Robin! ELVs and KUP!

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How exciting!! Can't wait to find out if this is it!! ELV!!!

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ELV! You may already be holding your LO by now! Can't wait for an update! Biggrin

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hmmm... no updates yet... what could that mean?

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Hopefully no updates means you're holding your precious baby by now!

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I hate this part.

I need UPDATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hi ladies Im sorry i havent sent an update, ive been a little hesitant because I opted for an epi and therefore my natural experience did not happen. I did start on my own and lasted 8 hours. I had high BP and was throwing up from the pain and dilated to about a disappointing 4 as i got to the hospital. They said i absolutely had to be monitored the entire time (lied about telemetry and wireless monitoring!) and couldnt stand contracting in the bed hooked up to wires! after the epi which didnt fully work right i progressed 1cm in about 4 hours and they wanted to break my water. I took my time making the decision but after reassurance of getting chorio the second time would be slim and being a 5-6 i figured it was better than last time. It took a while and still hadnt progressed much since they broke my water and i was pretty upset, thinking its going to be a repeat of last time. I did get diagnosed with chorio because my temp got over 100 and 101 but our heart rates and my BP stayed good so i kept on trucking! I reached a 9 a little sometime later and that was so great! I just had a little more to go to reach a 10 but had a bone right at the top blocking his head pretty good and they said it would be a task to push. I decided to push, it was the hardest thing and had no idea what i was doing, i hadnt eaten or drank anything at all that day and had bad dry mouth on top of lying flat on my back, it was difficult! Towards the end i started getting more energy and getting the hang of it things and as soon as the lights went on and people were entering i started getting excited and got a little more energy and Parker Louis W was born VBAC on April 14th at 11:17PM 7lbs 4oz and 20inches long. I got a pretty good tear and recovery is a little more difficult than i expected but would take this recovery over a c-section anyday! It was absolutely amazing! Parker had a pretty high heart rater after delivery, a fever and some fluid in his lungs and had to be monitored in the nursery for a few hours. I did get to hold him before they took him and he luckily didnt have to have an iv or antibiotics so its only me and im so glad for that! so far i have to be on for 48 hours which is almlost up and i get to go home tomorrow. ive had baby with me the whole time and we are breastfeeding wonderfully! thanks everyone for all the thoughts and i really regret not being a natural birthing momma but i sure am happy to be a VBAC mommy!

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Congratulations on your VBAC!!! Biggrin WTG!!! Please don't be disappointed with getting an epi. I do think there are times when an epi is very helpful especially after being exhausted, hungry, and not really progressing. I'm sorry you had to have the EFM the whole time and be flat on your back. You should be so proud of yourself for pushing Parker out! I'm glad to hear Parker is doing well now and that breastfeeding is going beautifully. I hope you recover quickly from your tear.

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You did wonderful, momma. The epi is a tool. To be used when needed. And if it helped you get your VBAC, then it was a wise choice.

I'm in tears I'm so thrilled.

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Nonsense! No way should you be feeling guilty! How wonderful you got your VBAC, and that feeding is going well! I hope you get to enjoy time together at home very soon! CONGRATULATIONS!

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Yay for you! You got your VBAC and I think that is awesome. I remember the beginning on the BB and your not wanting to VBAC. You came a long way! Can't wait to see some pics!

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First of all, Congratulations, Robin, both on your new baby Parker and on your VBAC! That is so awesome! Second of all, don't feel bad about the epidural. In your case, I believe it was necessary. I think not having the freedom to move would make labor without pain meds next to impossible. You did great!

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WOOHOO! Congrats on the VBAC!

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Congrats, WTTW Parker!!! And don't feel bad about the epi, you got your VBAC and that's the important thing!

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you are amazing momma!!!! you did a vbac!!!!!!

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