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Welcome to your lodge!
I look forward to sharing your journey!

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Welcome to your lodge! Cant wait to hear your story.

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Welcome to your lodge!!

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Welcome to your lodge! Smile

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Good! We were running out of active lodges around here. Wink

Welcome to your lodge. Looking forward to sharing this journey with you.

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:wavehello: Welcome to your lodge! Can't wait to read your intro and share your birth journey! Biggrin

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Yay!!! Jenn's lodge.

Rootin' for your VBAC, momma!

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Welcome to your lodge! Look forward to your journey!

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Hey, Jenn, are you around? We'd love to have an intro from you!

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Oh ladies I AM SO SORRY! Please forgive me!!!!!!!

I am a mad woman right now! LOL! I do have a HUGE story to tell but I'm off to my doctor's appointment right now - when I get back, I plan on typing up everything.

Thank you SO MUCH for the awesome support, and I look forward to sharing this journey with everyone Smile

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I am so sorry once again, ladies!

I am so excited to actually have a lodge! I checked about a week ago and didn't see one - maybe I overlooked it - I apologize!!

First off, I'm Jenn, 29 years old, married to Ali, 31 years old - and we have one son, Ayden, born 10/18/07. He was a c-section baby. I was induced at 39 weeks because they gave me the "too big" talk - and after 9 hours of Pitocin-induced hard labor, he only got to a -2 station, 4 CM, and about 75% effaced - doctor said his head was swelling and he felt he wasn't going to drop any more. I was in so much pain because the epidural wasn't working that I gave into the c-section even though it wasn't necessary at the time.

When they got me into the OR - I felt everything they were doing and started to panic and throw up. It was terrible. I kept screaming. Instead of trying to redo the epidural or give me more meds, they flat out ordered that I be put to sleep. I remember screaming NO and trying to fight them off - but they said absolutely not - the last thing I remember is the mask over my face and DH being kicked out of the room. It was awful. Apparently when they wheeled Ayden out of the OR - DH had to ASK if that was his kid. How terrible.

I woke up 2 hours later and was told he was perfectly fine, 8 lb 5oz with a huge head and 20.5 inches long. I met him an hour later and he was beautiful. The pediatrician came in and told me that his testicles were swollen and it looked like he might need surgery. I was like WHAT - he was fine before and now this?! The transfer team from the hospital in D.C. came that night after I had only bonded with him for a half hour and had not breastfed him at all. They took him away for the next 27 hours. Seeing him in that isolette was devastating. I threw up that whole night, constantly.

I was finally able to get out of bed about 26 hours later, right before Ayden came back (fine by the way, it was just fluid) - I kept telling them they were giving me the wrong meds but they kept injecting me with them - idiots - I told them specifically what to give me and once they did - I was fine.

When all was said and done, I finally ate on Saturday when the last time I ate was 10 PM on Wednesday. I showered for the first time since Wednesday and brushed my teeth. My stomach was totally ruined - bruised to pieces and the scar split into two. It was a terrible first few days of recovery but after that, I was fine.

I don't ever want to go through that again. Ever. Some people say having an elective c-section the next time around is easier, and I'd avoid any chance of an emergency and having to be asleep again. I don't think so. I want a birth where I can hold my child immediately, let her hear my voice, not have such a horrid recovery, and can really feel and know what childbirth is like - I really feel that, regardless of how healthy he is (trust me, I'm so grateful) - that I really shouldn't have had to go through what I did.

Am I afraid of a VBAC? Somewhat. But I want to try it more than anything and I believe in myself that I can make this happen. Unfortunately my doctor is "one of those" that requires a scheduled c-section for your due date. Damn. I didn't know this til later. So, I do have a scheduled c-section for May 20 - let's hope and pray I don't make it there. I'm scared and I don't want to be away from DS for 3 days, and I don't want to have to recover from it again - and breastfeeding really suffered after DS' birth.

Right now, I'm full term at 37 weeks, fingertip dilated and 50% effaced, and she's at a 0 station. This is much more progress than I ever made with Ayden on my own - and 3 weeks early! That's great. I'm walking every single day, DTD, and trying to make sure I keep up with my nutrition like I didn't with DS. I am right now about 15-16 pounds lighter than when I gave birth to DS. I'm very proud of that and how good I've been.

Some people say that because I didn't wait 2 years - that I'm not all that dedicated to having a VBAC - and I call that B.S. I am dedicated to it and I'm going to do what's best for me and my child in the end. We are excited about Mina's impending arrival and pray each night together that we will be able to have a safe and smooth birth experience.

I am excited to share this journey with everyone. At least in the end, no matter what happens, I just hope I'm awake. I can't stand to go through that again.

Here are some pics to share!

36 weeks with Mina:

36 weeks with DS:

Meeting DS:

Belly damage after surgery:

I am going to attempt to go without an epidural - but there is a chance I may give in just out of sheer fear of another emergency. I am at a different hospital this time with a different team of doctors. I really could use all the support I can get at this point. I really, REALLY want this VBAC - and I really, REALLY want to experience that bonding time with Mina that I missed with Ayden. Thanks again, ladies!

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Sounds like you had quite an awful experience. I hope you never ever have to go through that again. It's good that you are at a different hospital with different doctors. I know you will get TONs of fantastic VBAC advice. I know one of the first things they will say is don't show up for the scheduled C-section if you do go that long.

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I'm so sorry you had to go through that. No one should ever have a birth experience like that. Good luck with your VBAC! Hopefully you'll go into labor soon and won't have to worry about the scheduled c-section.

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I highly doubt I'll go into labor in the next 2 weeks - but hopefully I will before 40 weeks. I'm going to start trying the Rasberry Leaf tea and I'm doing a birthing ball too. It was easier to walk when the weather was nicer - now it's back cold again.

I know that plenty of people make this kind of progress and never labor - so I'm trying not to have my hopes up - but I do have faith that whatever is meant to happen will, I am just hoping it will be so much smoother than last time. You just don't think those things will happen to you until they do.

I'm going to be much more cautious with my decisions this time around and the medical staff is already aware that I'm slightly stubborn. I just told them I really want her to come out basically the way she got in there - know what I'm saying? Wink

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Congrats on your lodge from a fellow May 09 mummy!

Hoping you get your VBAC!

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Welcome to your lodge! Really hoping you get that VBAC, your c-section story is beyond horrific :eek: I agree with one someone else said, if you DO make it to 40 weeks, "accidentally" sleep through it and forget to turn your phone on the day of the scheduled section Wink

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If I've made significant progress on my own, than I won't be showing up for the c-section Smile Oops...forgot to set my alarm lol.

I wouldn't normally be okay with stripping membranes, however, if I do get to 2-3 CM on my own, they will try to strip me first before resorting to a c-section, and I'd rather try that than just go and get sliced open. We'll see how it goes...I'm really nervous and hoping for the best. I really am trying hard for this VBAC...but it happens sometimes and doesn't other times, I'm just going to do all I can and I'll be satisfied knowing that I did Smile

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I had a lump in my throat while reading your last birth story. All that due to "big baby" talk. Sad

There are a number of things I did to increase my chances for a vbac.. I hope you don't mind me sharing. Smile

~ Reading - my favourite book was Henci Goer's Thinking Woman's Guide to Childbirth. Have you picked that one up?
~ I feel like the chiropractic care I received was important for baby's positioning and keeping everything "in line" for birth.
~ I watched my posture in the weeks leading up to my son's arrival. Avoiding things like reclining back and crossing your legs (think "keep knees lower than hips") can improve baby's position.
~ Absolutely refused to schedule a c-section. Whether it's your doctor's "rules" or not, no one can force you into surgery.
~ Committed to a birth without pain medications. They can affect baby's heartrate and your blood pressure which makes doctors jumpy and an epi doesn't allow you to move and use gravity to your advantage. And honestly, my natural birth was far less painful and certainly less stressful than my medicated birth (even before the c-section).
~ Avoided an induction. (although it sounds like your doc will just skip this and go for the section anyway)
~ Intermittent fetal monitoring rather than continuous. Continuous fetal monitoring has not been shown to improve fetal outcome and has been linked with an increase in rates of cesareans (simply a correlation, but interesting none-the-less given the decreased mobility with CFM)
~ Hired a doula. She was an extremely important support person for my vbac.
~ I also did some little things like refusing an IV (I felt like that's just the start of a slippery slope of interventions), I wore my own clothes (I wanted to think about my birth as a completely natural/normal event)... etc.

Anyway... I'll be rooting for you! But right now I think the most important piece to the puzzle is avoiding that scheduled c-section.

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wow, how tramatic. I really hope that your little girl comes before the c-sec, though I love your idea or sleeping through it, lol.

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Thanks for the advice, Rebecca.

The epidural is still in question. I do not want it. I don't want any pain medication - the only reason I question it is because I'm afraid of having to be put to sleep again. As a first time mother I was really uneducated about the decisions I could make and I refused to listen to anyone on here who told me about the big baby thing - I learned from that. While he was big, he wasn't huge, but his head was huge - so there's still some question to it. He was trying so hard to get down - he had a ring around his head for several days.

I have all the faith in the world that I can do this on my own with no medications - that's more out of fear. I hated being on my back when I had it with Ayden and I swear it made things worse, not better, and it made me sick too.

I don't want continuous monitoring because I want to be on a birth ball or able to get in the shower if needed. They allow that at the hospital, so I'm going to do my best with that. I've already refused an IV in the event of a labor on my own - but will probably get the little lock in my hand just in case they need to hook it up in an emergency.

All of these things made labor with Ayden worse - the epi and having to be on my back, the constant monitoring, the IV - all of it. It was terrible.

Working on the doula.

Thanks so much for the support. The actual story is much more horrific from the standpoint of when I first wrote it but it disappeared off the October 07 page. I remember a lot more details then.

Thanks for the help Smile Im so trying and hoping for this.

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You're actually far better off not getting the epidural. As you know, the coverage can be spotty, and if they don't take the time to make sure of complete coverage before starting your surgery, then you're out of luck. OTOH, it only takes about 3 minutes to place a spinal, which is totally do-able in all but the most dire emergency c-section. They couldn't do a spinal for you last time because you already had an epidural in place.

I was also put to sleep for my first birth when baby's heartrate dropped to zero, again, when I was on the OR table being prepped. Missing another baby's birth is my number one biggest fear this time, but IMHO the risks of the "slippery slope" with an epidural far outweigh any benefit of being assured of being awake in an emergency. I just have faith that things will go differently, or at least differently enough that we'll have that 3-minute window in case of an emergency.

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Stacey - I actually did NOT know that about a spinal.

My doctor told me that in the event of a uterine rupture, I would be put to sleep. I know how slim of a chance that is but you know, it's always in the back of your head.

I have so much faith I can do this without an epidural. It was almost pointless last time and it's like what's the point of sticking a needle in my spine if it's not going to work and it will probably just hinder things anyway?

I have been mentally preparing myself for no epidural - I like you have faith that things will go better this time even if I end up with another c-section.

I hope and pray every single day that I won't need it though and I have faith in my body that it will let this happen the good ol' fashioned way.

The other day when I was at my regular appointment the nurse (she was new) asked how I was doing, etc, I said I was hoping to go before my scheduled c-section because I wanted a VBAC. She goes "WHY?!" and then goes "I had a c-section with my first and then a vaginal with my second - I chose another c-section with my 3rd, I far preferred it".

Give me a break. Seriously. I looked at her and literally said 'you're a nutcase'

LOL!

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"VTAlum01" wrote:

The other day when I was at my regular appointment the nurse (she was new) asked how I was doing, etc, I said I was hoping to go before my scheduled c-section because I wanted a VBAC. She goes "WHY?!" and then goes "I had a c-section with my first and then a vaginal with my second - I chose another c-section with my 3rd, I far preferred it".

Give me a break. Seriously. I looked at her and literally said 'you're a nutcase'

LOL!

She is a nutcase. How anyone would prefer major abdominal surgery over a beautiful, normal natural process is beyond me. Of course, the typical "medically managed" vaginal birth (where the doctor has all the power and the woman still feels like a machine) is not far off from a c-section, so that could possibly explain it?

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I don't know. She shocked me when she said that.

I was just reading a birth story from someone who had a VBAC on this site - and that person was told that their chances of VBAC were 30% - it can't be that low, right? My research has said 70-80%, and it is circumstantial - but 30%? That's kind of a scary number to me.

I have all faith I can do it - I don't care how much pain I'm in, how many contractions I'm having, how tired I am - I'm lasting through that scheduled c-section, if not longer - trust me, if they tell me I'm like 4 CM and 100% or more, even a little less, I'm not likely to go in and get cut open - I really should have been given at least a week over but it appears that I chose a not so friendly practice, which stinks....but...after doing further research I saw that an epidural is not VBAC friendly - so...I am keeping that in the back of my head too. The last thing I want to do is hinder my chances of doing it - especially if it's as low as 30% - YIKES!

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It's possible that certain doctors have a 30% vbac rate (or lower). These would be the ones that agree to "let" a mom "try" and then get them into the OR the first chance they get.

Literature reviews and more recent studies on vbac show that around 75% of women who planned labour after a cesarean gave birth vaginally. So the odds are totally with you, especially with your planning and commitment. Smile

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At this particular practice, the c-section rate in general is 50%. That's a real ominous number. The sad part is that all of the doctors are female (it's an "all female" practice).

A few weeks ago I ended up in L and D because of consistent contractions and some leaking fluid - AT MY PARENT'S HOUSE - 3 hours away. I went to a hospital I KNEW was VBAC friendly because I know someone who VBAC'd there all naturally. When I got there, I explained that if I happened to be in labor, I'd want a VBAC - they sent in this very young, handsome, awesome doctor since of course, my doctor was nowhere around - he was fabulous. He said "if you want a VBAC, I totally support that - if you were my wife, I wouldn't want you to have a c-section either, and it's also more risky for you in the end to have a repeat c-section if you are planning on having more children" - he then continued with his faith in VBACs, and let me know that if I was his patient I'd be allowed 41 weeks (pending no major problems) - and also, after 3 CM, Pitocin and water breakage (not allowed at my practice here, the most I can have is a strip). Now I'm actually pretty opposed to Pitocin during a VBAC - but he did explain to me the risk with it, and that apparently it depends on the training the doctor has had recently as to whether or not they are willing to use it - he said his training has taught him that Pitocin in VBAC's can be used.

It's really sad. I left that hospital going - oh my gosh - the odds are technically against me here. I made an effort after I spoke with this doctor to research the docs in the area, and I found one an hour away that would have taken me at that point and was EXTREMELY VBAC friendly (recommended highly by the midwives in the area, people I've actually met in parking lots, etc) - ultimately I made the appointment but then cancelled it because unfortunately the logistics of it were not working - and it sucked.

Part of me feels like I'm not trying hard enough by sticking with a doctor who is so unfriendly ... but I will tell you that the one doc I see (there are 3 in the practice, I've seen all 3 there) - on a regular basis - totally understands what I want. She's the only one of the 3 that does and she makes me feel a lot better. I have a huge paranoia that the other doctors would check my cervix and lie about how far along I was to push me into a c-section - this doc has been honest - letting me know I've actually made great progress and she has faith I could do this naturally, and that's good.

If they tried pushing me into the OR for some foreign reason that was not legit (now that I'm more educated, I know better) - I'd get up and leave and drive the hour away to the other hospital...I'm not kidding. I don't want that...so that leads me to believe that I do have the faith I need, and I am planning appropriately, even though I'm not with my dream doctor ... like the one I saw a few weeks ago - who was amazing, and ironically afterwards I found out, is also a doctor in the practice where I was a patient just as a GYN while I lived with my parents, before I was married.

Breaks my heart...

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Honestly-- given your reservations about your current care-- I would just plan on driving the hour to the "other hospital". 50% c section rate is alarming IMO.

I would just plan on waiting to go into labor and then going to the other hospital. I bet your chances are higher of having a successful VBAC.

GL-- I'm rooting for you!

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The doc you saw when you were at your parents' sounds wonderful. I'm glad you are informed and willing to walk out of a hospital if you feel like you're not getting the kind of care you think is best.

It's good that you have one dr. in your practice who you feel is supportive, but I would worry about a 50% c/s rate even as a non-VBAC. Just going straight to the other hospital when you're in labor is a possibility.

Whatever you decide to do, I'm rooting for you, too!

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wow your hospital sounds totally scary to me. On the one hand I understand staying put, but on the other, I agree with Audra and would seriously think of jus making a b-line to the other hospital. If my place weren't so VBAC friendly I think I would have made more of an effort to get to a birthing center (though that would mean less coverage for myself).

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The alarming c-section rate isn't just for our practice (I'm unsure of their ACTUAL number) - it's actually overall in our area. That's the sad part. It may be because according to my provider, a lot of people here CHOOSE a c-section (heavens no, for Pete's sake!!) - the one doctor that I can't stand told me how a lot of women think it's great and just go ahead and elect it.

It's like can I vomit now please?

I won't let them cut me for no good reason - they are well aware of how stubborn I am and that I'm going to refuse it unless it's life threatening. They know better. I'm doing all I can to ensure this is going to happen...I really am, I promise!

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Although, in theory, I support a woman's right to choose a c-section, I really can't understand how a woman would make that choice. It probably has a lot to do with the information they are given by their doctors, many of whom think that c-sections are safer than vaginal birth because they think that them having more control of it automatically makes it safer, which isn't true, but they believe it, and they pass that attitude on to the women who trust them.

If you are stubborn with the hospital staff, you can have a VBAC. Giving you a VBAC is not something they do, but rather, something they don't do. If they try to tell you you need a c/s, and you know you don't, you can say "I do not consent to a cesarean section" and, legally, they can't perform the surgery without your consent.

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I obviously don't understand the elective c-sections either.

How are you feeling this late in pregnancy? Is it different from the last time?

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Rebecca - it IS very different this time around. I was wondering why - there are things that I never felt with Ayden - first and foremost, he was a bigger baby, 8 lb 5 oz, so...he always felt high to me because he had bigger legs, etc, and he also never dropped.

With Mina this time - the contractions are far worse this late in the game - with Ayden I only got the ones that were shorter, lots of pressure, no pain. These are longer, TONS of pain, and they start at the bottom and navigate around - it's an odd feeling but something I remember vaguely when laboring with Ayden. These particular contractions registered at a 12 on the monitor when I was monitored a few weeks ago...which, while high, is definitely not all that intense - but I'm hoping it's doing SOMETHING.

I finally got answers from my doc tho - with Ayden, I got only to a negative 2 station after 9 hours of induced labor. He never dropped fully into the pelvis. Last week at my 37 week appointment, she had already dropped into a 0 station ("in the vagina" says the doc lol) - and I'm fingertip dilated and 50% effaced - not much - except that with Ayden I never dilated on my own before induction, and after 9 hours, got to a 4 and 75% effaced - so it feels like a better start. She's definitely lower - and my legs often feel like they're splitting apart and my butt has tons of pressure. Her movements are also at my belly button and no higher - Ayden was always up near my lungs, etc...and the heartburn with him was far worse - I think because he was higher and bigger.

I also have tons of icky goo coming out recently that I never really had with Ayden - a constant "leaking" feeling, I really, REALLY think this is her position - Ayden's head was pretty freaking big, I think hers is smaller - she's always measured smaller on ultrasounds. My GUESS is that she's going to be closer to 7/9 or 7/10 versus over 8 lbs. I've heard though that the bigger the baby, the easier the VBAC (??!!) weird lol.

But yes, I feel a lot different, much more tired, and much more contractions - I hear that is normal for a 2nd pregnancy though, my doc says it's often more painful.

But I'm also doing things this time around that I didn't do with him - constant walking, lifting, exercising, birth ball, Rasberry Leaf Tea (started this late tho), lots of DTD...whether or not it will make an ultimate difference, I don't know, but emotionally - I know I have far more belief in myself this time than I did with Ayden. I just assumed he was too big and said whatever.

As for choosing a c-section, I can understand it, it's just never a decision I would make. For instance, Christina Aguilera chose to have a c-section because she was afraid of tearing her vajayjay - to me, I'd rather tear there than be sliced wide open...now other reasons such as breech, placenta previa, other things like that - I totally get it - I just don't get thinking that it's easier than a vaginal birth...maybe...but after my experience, I highly doubt it would compare.

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Hi Jenn

I am with you on the second baby being different thing! I have about the same gap as you between number 1 and 2 (DD born in Sep 07 and #2 due in May) and agree with everything you say about the contractions, goo :), tiredness etc...it is nice to hear that someone else is having similar symptoms and feelings!

Although I fortunately avoided a C-section last time (just), I very much understand the importance of having a VBAC and I am totally keeping my fingers crossed for you! I also cannot understand why (apart from medical reasons) anyone would chose this option...I was offered an elective CS this time but declined with a smile! I am looking forward to hearing your VBAC story....

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Thanks so much, Jules, and everyone!

It's so nice to know there's such support out there. Regardless I just want her to be safe and healthy - that's the most important thing - but I hope, pray, and believe every single day that this will happen.

Smile Time will tell...I'm doing everything I can, I really am.

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I'll second (third? fourth????) the suggestion to just skip your hospital and make the hour's drive to the better one! If that's not really a good option for you, how are the statistics at the hospital you'll be delivering at? If the overall statistics for the hospital are good, then you could simply decline to call your doctor and take your chances with the resident or whomever they have on call.

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I'm going to talk to the doctor on Wednesday - like I said, I'm very stubborn. They're not going to be able to c/s me like that - not without a life threatening reason - it's not going to be something stupid like "well, you're not dilated a whole lot, and I think your baby is too big". Give me a break. I'm going to call that shot unless something else severe rears its ugly head. I have no doubt I can do this - with or without my doctor's support - but I am going to talk to her on Wednesday tho.

I've been contracting like crazy today tho and lots of pressure down there - I hope I've made at least SOME change on Wednesday, I don't want to lose any hope or faith that it will happen naturally.

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Good luck with talking to your dr!

Have you considered declining the cervical check? If you are going to be disappointed if you haven't progressed much, then maybe it would be better to not know? Just a suggestion.

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The reason I'm not declining the cervical check is that they will strip my membranes if I reach a certain point - otherwise, I don't get anything - I mean there's no chance I'll be induced if I make progress because they do not use Pitocin for VBAC's at this hospital...so I do kind of want to see if I make enough progress to try that before going to a scheduled c-section.

I had a dream the other night that we made it to May 20 - and I was in the hospital about to have the section. I woke up feeling so upset - like oh geez - I want to look forward to the birth of my child, not feel like "oh crap - no!" - it really does make me feel bad that I'm so against the scheduled c-section - but I just cannot have it. I cannot go through that again, I cannot recover from it again, and I certainly don't want to leave DS for 3 days ... I can't fathom doing this. I am just going through each day trying not to read into things...but at the same time not getting my hopes up, but believing.

If that makes sense. It's just that most women go overdue no matter what kind of progress they make before 40 weeks ... and I hate that thought. I'm doing everything I can though, everything...hoping and praying most of all.

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My midwife swears by useing a breast pump to induce labor, she says it's VERY affective at bringing on good contractions and that it works for almost everyone. I hope it doesn't come to that, but it's worth a try:) Hang in there I know how hard it is to hang in a situation where you feel totally out of control or something you've worked so long and hard at:(

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Just stopping by your lodge to let you know I'm thinking of you! I actually have been loosely following your "story" since the beginning, so I can't wait to follow you in the end of your journey too! I am so rooting for you to get your VBAC too! Biggrin

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Thanks so much for the support!

Vanessa - I had already planned on using the breast pump the weekend before my c-section to see if it would work - it worked for a friend of mine in getting her VBAC.

I'm off to my 38 week appointment .... hoping for something, anything...we'll see Smile

I'll update when I get back!

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I hope you have a smooth appointment!

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Well, I made SOME progress. 1 CM now and 60% - fundal height shrunk - that's because she fell even more (was a 0 last week, she didn't give me an exact number, so I'm guessing she got more to like a +1) - said I'm "soft and mushy".

I really do not like the other doctors in the practice which is why I always see her - she said, to my shock, that she actually DOES use Pitocin during a stalled VBAC - what? Really? I didn't know that. The other doctors aren't as willing - but I really do have to be at a certain point. I don't want Pitocin at all and I don't like the concept of using it during a VBAC, but I think I'd almost rather risk it than go ahead and have the section so ... I have my 39 weeks next week and then after that, I'm going to see her one more time before my c-section on the 20th - and she's going to strip my membranes - she's on call the weekend before (the 16th-17th) and the night before (on the 19th) - so...we'll see if I can get on her clock - she said the other doctors are willing to VBAC too - but I guess they just rubbed off on me wrong. I told her I'm scared of them LOL!

She said I'm making great progress though and that the baby has definitely moved from last week...I gained no weight, am the same, and BP was 112/60.

So...all in all I was happy with it - my butt hurts.

That is all Smile

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Sounds like your appointment went well and your Dr was able to reassure you. Happy 38 weeks!

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I bought some Evening Primrose Oil caplets today - it's 500 MG - I wonder how many times a day I'm supposed to take it? My doctor recommended it today among other things.

I am so crampy from that exam. I walked a mile after wards and ate a bunch of jalepenos lol... not much else going on - didn't even spot or bleed from it, just a lot of pain in my back and period like cramps - contractions like crazy when I walked but they let up after I got home.

Sigh.

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I believe that the judicial use of Pitocin to augment a truly stalled labor is prudent, even in a VBAC. Far better than just wheeling off to the OR. The real risks with Pitocin in a VBAC are flat-out inducing labor, and the routine bumping up the dose every half hour like they would want to do normally. If they start slow, and don't bump up too much or too fast, you should be fine. And if it works and your labor gets going again, ask them to turn it off or down and see if your body takes over on its own. If it doesn't work, then at least you know you tried everything.

I'm really glad to hear that you're making progress, but I would (again) encourage you to re-schedule the c-section and give yourself the maximum amount of time for your body to do its thing. What my midwife recommended with the EPO was to prick the capsules a few times with a pin and insert two of them into the vagina right up against the cervix. Wear a pantyliner because they will drip. Repeat every 8 hours.

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Wow that's interesting - I never knew how to use the EPO lol...why was I thinking it was oral? Silly goose, I am!

I will consider re-scheduling the c-section, however, the hospital overall and all the physicians that work there do not allow VBAC's after a due date. They're kind of morons but that's okay. I will find a way around this. I'm determined to do it naturally - I'm trying all of these things I never would have thought of with Ayden because I just wasn't dedicated enough with him and I really thought I couldn't have a bad birth experience - how wrong I was!

DH was out until 4 AM (he was up almost 24 hours) so no DTD last night - but I plan on it tonight, I'm actually still contracting more than I thought I was and they're pretty intense. This always happens after an exam though - something about those just jostles my insides.

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GL with the EPO and everything else you're trying to try to get labor started!

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I did 2 miles of walking today ... was such a beautiful day outside! My back really is killing me but that's probably from all the walking!

Otherwise just the milder contractions on and off, nothing huge, all is well - just tired! There were 3 nights in a row where I just sat up in bed and watched DH and DS sleep half the night! I got maybe 3-4 hours per night those 3 nights but finally slept through most of the way last night! I'd been peeing like 5 times at least each night until last night - so...we'll see how tonight goes. I just get exhausted running after Ayden and then being unable to sleep - that stinks...I'm training for the near future, I say Smile

Other than that, nothing else much going on ... just waiting. It's a full moon tomorrow and Mother's Day on Sunday - I thought that would be kinda cool...except that I have absolutely no sign that labor is imminent anytime soon LOL!

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