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Welcome to your lodge! I look forward to sharing in your journey!

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yay welcome to your lodge!

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Yay, Aurora, welcome to your lodge! Turn, baby, turn! Smile

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Welcome to your lodge!! Wow, we are getting awfully close to starting August birth lodges, aren't we?? Crazy how fast time is going by!

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Thank you!!! Biggrin

I am so glad to have my own lodge. My name is Aurora (22) and have been married since March 3, 2008. DH (23) and I are high school sweethearts. We met in our Army JROTC class in the 9th grade and started dating at the end of our 11th grade. We used to argue like there was no tomorrow. They used to tease us by telling us that we were like an old married couple, and that we were going to end up together. Well they were right, it is over 6 years that we have been together. We have fought to be together, even against some family members disapproval. Here we are growing strong.

We live in Los Angeles, and love it. We have two dogs Bella (German Shepherd) who is 9 years old and Jake (Shih tzu) who is 3 years old. I am a student that is finishing my BA in psychology in 2010. DH is waiting for me to finish school, so he can then go back and finish his degree too. Right now poor DH is the sole provider in the house. He is so amazing. I can remember at the beginning of the pregnancy all I could do was puke. He would come home from a long day at work, and help me clean myself up, in addition to cleaning the house. Even now you can find him helping me get dressed as I can hardly bend over. He is even nesting and being very involved in any decision made for the baby. He is going to be a great father, he is already planning our second child Lol

Around 7 months after getting married we thought of maybe TTC, and thought it might take around a year or so. To our surprise 1 month after (on November 29), we found out we were expecting. I have always been the kind of person that has some kind of health problem, when one thing was ok something else had to go wrong. It scared me to even think of anything going wrong in the pregnancy. As a young newlywed and first time mother it was a scary time for me. :eek: I knew I wanted children, but was not expecting for this to happen so soon; I was counting in at least a year after marriage. DH was immediately jumping out of joy. It took me a while for the idea to sink into me, but now I can not see my life being the same without my LO. As I discovered pg.org, not too long ago, I can see how lucky we are to be blessed with our baby. So many couples TTC, adopting, or m/c... and here I was worried over nothings.

I'm lucky to be pregnant, but my pregnancy has been a bit rough on me. I had nausea and vomit until around my 5th month of gestation. The vomit wasn't only morning sickness, but the whole day. Because of my rough time I asked for a leave of absence from school, prolonging my graduation from 2009 to 2010. I'm glad I did, I just had a hard time focusing while I had all these pregnancy changes going on. I have tested positive for gestation diabetes and it has been hard to avoid some foods, as I am tempted by my sweet tooth. So far, what has me worried is having the baby in a breech position. I don't want to have a c-sec. So I have been trying different techniques to stimulate the baby to move.

I am expecting a boy (of course DH was thrilled to have his first born be a boy), the EDD is July 20. I wanted our first born boy to be a junior, but DH fought me through it. We decided to name him after DH, but switched his names around. This means our LO's name is going to be Anthony Dilmer. For a while Anthony was measuring way too ahead and weighing a pound more of other baby's in his same gestation time. Doctor thinks the gestation diabetes was making him gain too much weight, and told me to watch what I ate because if he grew too big I would end up with a c-sec. Now this past appointment, we were relieved to hear that he has catch up in weight to other baby's in the same time frame. At 36 weeks he is weighing around 6lbs and 10oz. I am so glad I have one point less towards a c-sec. Now all I need to worry about is him turning around for a natural birth.

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Sorry to hear you had such bad morning sickness and about the gestational diabetes. Sending you lots of *turn baby* vibes. Are you trying anything to encourage him to turn? Are you planning on doing a c-section if he doesn't turn or are you looking for a care provider who does vaginal breech births?

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"MrsMangoBabe" wrote:

Are you trying anything to encourage him to turn? Are you planning on doing a c-section if he doesn't turn or are you looking for a care provider who does vaginal breech births?

I am trying techniques that I read about in spinningbabies.com
With our health insurance I don't think we can afford to look for another Dr. I am so close to EDD, that I don't wan't to end up with a complete stranger delivering the baby.

Dr. also said that the baby is in a bad breech position (feet down), he would have tried delivering him if his butt was down but not feet, due to the risks of not having enough pelvic room for the head to come out. Sad

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I am trying techniques that I read about in spinningbabies.com
With our health insurance I don't think we can afford to look for another Dr. I am so close to EDD, that I don't wan't to end up with a complete stranger delivering the baby.

Dr. also said that the baby is in a bad breech position (feet down), he would have tried delivering him if his butt was down but not feet, due to the risks of not having enough pelvic room for the head to come out. Sad

From what I understand, your dr is right--feet first is a riskier breech position because the feet can't dilate the cervix as well as the butt can. Good luck getting the baby to flip--I hope what you're doing works!

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Welcome to your lodge! I'm sending you lots of turning vibes!!!

I like how you switched DH's names. My dad's name is like that, switched with his dad's. Very neat!

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Hi Aurora! Welcome to your lodge! That's great that your DH is so helpful and excited about the baby! And good news about Anthony's weight leveling off where it should. That's got to be really hard to be so careful about what you eat while you're pregnant, but at least it's paid off! I hope he'll turn around for you!

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Aurora, your DH sounds so sweet! Smile I like how you guys decided on your LO's name. I hope he turns for you soon. Trust me, I have been there, LOL. If you'd ever like to vent or want to talk about breech babies, you know where to find me. Anyway, I'm looking forward to following the rest of your pregnancy journey!

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Today I attended my childbirth class. I was referred by the hospital to take the class, I didn't take it so good, but thought I wouldn't hurt to see what I took out of it. I was counting in the class most likely leaning to be bias to physicians decisions, but the instructor was actually making it a big point that we were in charge and had right to refuse treatments if not needed. The class consisted in: what to expect in late pregnancy, techniques to coping with labor pain, what to expect during each stage of labor, delivery, what to expect in case of a c-sec, and post partum. It was an 6 hour class. I felt so bad for getting there a bit late. DH was joking about taking the baby late to his first informative class.

I am so glad the hospital offers birthing balls, bath tubs, and squatting bars. It will make it so much easier, I think. DH was very interested in everything. He was even giving me great messages as we practiced different breathing techniques. Wink I am so glad to have taken the class. I have heard different things that help, but actually having an instructor telling you the wide variety of techniques was nice.

In the plus side I got a booklet that shows pictures of different options in case we forget. As having my first child, I think I am still a bit green (as they say) about techniques and options. I am so bringing it to the hospital and making DH in charge of it just in case we forget Biggrin The booklet even encouraged you to make a birth plan.

After watching the c-sec video I am more determined to have a do anything for that vaginal delivery. It was so chilling how they described pushing muscles to the sides to make room for the baby. I am more scared of a c-sec than a natural birth Sad Even DH was a bit shocked on what they do for c-sec's, he just hugged me.

After the class, I decided to go purchase some pillows. I noticed that the ones that I thought I was taking to the hospital for the L&D were not fluffy enough to be comfortable. I got to have a test run Biggrin and they failed. Glad I was able to switch them before it was too late. I also need to get message objects/items that DH can use on me during labor, to make it easier on him....so he won't feel like he gave labor with me by the end. Lol

In a different topic, I have been getting a lot of BH contractions on the bottom of my belly. I know it can't be the baby moving since he is so high. If you press on it, that section is actually softer than all of my belly, yet I have stretchmarks growing like vines on a wall. :mad: They come daily around twice a day and I am not so happy about it, but I know they are necessary to get my body prepared.:rolleyes:

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Thank you ladies! :bigarmhug: I'm so glad I can have somewhere to come for comfort and advice.

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Welcome to your lodge! It sounds like you getting prepared well. Try not to stress too much about all the "options" for your labor, I think it's best to keep an open mind and know that what works best for you may be something you've read or heard and it may be something you come up with in the moment all on your own. You'll do great, and I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers for a head down baby!

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I'm glad you're happy with your birth class. Yours sounds a lot better than mine. My hosptial class and didn't really talk enough about natural birth--it was more about the interventions. I learned a lot more from reading natural birth books than I did from that class. Classes are great for getting DH's involved in the preparation, though, and I'm glad your DH is so into it.

I hope your little boy turns for you so you don't have to have a c-section. I think a lot of people think a c-section is no big deal, so I'm glad your class was realistic about it. I think, though, that it's important to recognize that sometimes a c-section is the best way for a baby to come, and accept the possibility that it may end up being that way for you. We always have to prepare ourselves fully for every possibility and try to approach childbirth not in fear, but with education and power.

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I was watching a TV show about a teenager being pregnant, and going through the whole process. While she was in labor she was crying and when it was time to push she didn't want to! Hardly pushed and then said "I want a c-sec." :eek: I wanted to tear my hair off. I agree that c-sec's have become way too common and people don't realize how it is major surgery and not a fast way out. I don't see it as wrong when it is necessary, but when you pick one just for no good reason...well that annoys me. I was glad the doctor didn't listen and convinced her to finish the vaginal birth.

In another subject here is my latest belly picture at 36 wks + 4 days...

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You look great hun! I know what you mean about people who seek c-section when it's not needed, I won't go into it but I have a friend who just did what your describeing but her doctor gave her one!!! Can you imagine going all the way through labor and decideing after you can see the kids hair that you don't want to do it??!!

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I'm so glad your instructor was so informative, esp towards alternatives to help during birth. I do hope baby turns for you

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Welcome to your lodge. I can't wait to follow your journey. GL with spinning Anthony.

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Yeah, I totally know what you mean about the "just give me a c-section" thing. I think all women during labor go though times of feeling like we can't do it anymore--that is normal and what you really need when you say that is someone to say you can do it and that you're almost there not someone to just take the baby out of you.

Your belly looks great!

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(TMI) So I wake up around 4:30 am to go to the bathroom and all of the sudden I get the urge to go. It was all watery and the stomach pain kept on going until I fell asleep around 5:30 am. It was even giving me goosebumps.

DH got out of work at 4:00 am and the car would not start. I was so upset, because he knows better than to leave the car on, to plug his phone to charge almost all night. So he was suppost to be home by 4:30 am but didn't get anyone to help him jump start the car until 5:00am....that is why I was up worried and waiting for him until around 5:30 am with my stomach ache. Oh, and have I mentioned that this isn't the first time it happens :mad:

I was able to go back to sleep, but now that I am awake I have been having the same uncomfortable stomach ache. I think something I ate may have done me wrong. Sad

On another subject....I got on the scale yesterday night and it read 192 lbs!!!! How do you go from 186 on Monday to 192 on Sunday. :eek: I know it can be signs of water retention and too much swelling, but it is alot. Today I have my 37 wk appt, so I hope the Dr is able to help me.

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Were you weighed on the same scale? If not, it could be scale differences. Also, there are sometimes weight fluctuations based on how much you've eaten around the time you weigh yourself, what clothes you're wearing, etc. If you really are experiencing sudden weight gain, it could be swelling/water retention. It's not a big deal if you don't have other symptoms of pre-e, but if you have protein in your urine or high blood pressure at your appointment today, your doctor will probably be very concerned about that. I hope all is well!

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Good luck at your app today! I dont seem to retain water very much but I still get random weight fluctuations even when I'm not preggo :rolleyes: I hope all is well!

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Welcome to your lodge! I can't wait to share the natural birth journey with another July mama! Biggrin

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Welcome to your lodge! Hope your appt went well today.

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I hope your appointment went well! And that the baby turns!!

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My 37 wk appt was just ok. I was a bit upset that the Dr was in a rush (got called to deliver a baby), so I didn't get to ask any questions. I was so swollen!!! It was insane how huge my feet were, plus my BP was a little high. I gained 4 lbs since last weeks appt. I'm a bit worried about pre-e now, I'll ask next time. My fundal height is 38 cm; he always reminds me that I have a big belly :mad: as if I could control it. The baby is looking great, but still breech. His HR was around 143. The only great things about the appt was the baby being good and that my group b test came back negative.

Today I am feeling a bit low. I don't know why. :eek: I even started crying for no reason, and still feel like it. Must be all the hormones going crazy.

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The negative gbs result is good news. Make sure you relax a lot, drink plenty of water and make sure you're eating enough protein. That should help with the swelling and blood pressure.

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Drinking lots of water should help with the fluid. :bigarmhug:

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Aww, Aurora, I'm sorry that the baby is still breech, that the dr was in a rush, and that you're so swollen. I'm glad the GBS test came out negative, though! I agree with the other ladies -- drink plenty of water, that should help with the fluid retention, and also it'll give you lots of amniotic fluid to provide room for the baby to turn. I don't blame you for being down -- late pregnancy's a hard time, and a not-so-stellar appointment is a big bummer. :bigarmhug: Here's hoping next week's appt is better!

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Ditto Beverly and pp's. Aurora, I'm sorry the doc wasn't focused on you.

Sending you spinning baby vibes! Or at least that he'll tuck his feet up and get his butt engaged instead!

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I have been waking up around 5-7 times during the night to go pee. It is driving me insane. I thought I would get away without waking up so often (I have read many have this problem), but I was wrong. It might also have to do with me drinking ALOT of water. I usually drink around 8-10 cups a day, but I have increased it to see how much it helps me. The carpal tunnel symptoms on my left hand are almost gone (still have some on my right) and my swelling has gone down. I feel all full with how much water I am drinking, but it is helping, so I'll try to stick to it.

Today as I woke up I see myself on the mirror and tell DH, "I think I am getting slimmer" (it might just be how the baby was positioned) Lol He laughed. I guess I have finally gotten used to seeing myself pregnant. Still not happy about all the discomforts, but at least the view doesn't seem so bad anymore Biggrin

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LOL at seeming slimmer! I commented to DH the other day that I still have a waist, at least from behind I still do, and he just laughed at me.

Have you seen a chiropractor? The Webster Technique is a simple adjustment that can help open your pelvic joints and give baby more room to turn. Even if your insurance doesn't cover chiro, it would be well worth the cash IMHO. Also ask your doctor about trying an external version, it's where the doctor manually turns the baby from the outside. There are risks to that procedure, but it's done in the hospital with careful monitoring.

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Have you seen a chiropractor? The Webster Technique is a simple adjustment that can help open your pelvic joints and give baby more room to turn. Even if your insurance doesn't cover chiro, it would be well worth the cash IMHO.

Aurora, I think you mentioned you are in the Los Angeles area. With Jack, I saw Dr. Eliot Berlin in Los Angeles, who specializes in the Webster Technique. If you are even at all interested, I suggest you call him, ask some questions and book an appointment -- the earlier you go, the better. His number is 323.549.0700. Here's the portion of his web site describing what he does to treat patients with breech babies. I was 39 weeks, almost, when I went to him, and it was a bit late in the game. He has a really high track record of turning breech babies with Webster, and he also has an acupuncturist on staff (this cute guy named Jason ;)) who will follow up the Webster session with acupuncture (doesn't hurt, really) to increase the chance of your baby turning. Even though it didn't work on me, I could tell Dr. Berlin really knew what he was doing, and I wish I had gone to him sooner in my pregnancy with Jack. My insurance didn't cover it, so it was a bit expensive, but if it works, it's worth it.

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Also ask your doctor about trying an external version, it's where the doctor manually turns the baby from the outside. There are risks to that procedure, but it's done in the hospital with careful monitoring.

I already asked him and he said no. Sad Explaining that it is harder and more risky when your having your first child, since the abdomen wall isn't so flexible. He would not recommend it for me. I'll try again by doing research for my next appt and confronting him about it, if I find I am a good candidate.

"JJO_Mommy712" wrote:

Aurora, I think you mentioned you are in the Los Angeles area. With Jack, I saw Dr. Eliot Berlin in Los Angeles, who specializes in the Webster Technique. If you are even at all interested, I suggest you call him, ask some questions and book an appointment.

I'll call and get informed. Thank you.

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I was reading through Renee's last post and something came to me. Eventhough I don't realize it as it is happening, I think I have been a bit depressed myself too. I am very emotional sometimes and feel like it might be more than just pregnancy hormones.

I was speaking to my mother about her 2 labors and asked her if she used any sedatives, etc. She had to be induced for my birth since I was already past due, but had no other medicine for the pain. For the birth of my sister she had her all natural too. It made me kind of bummed.

I try to put a good face and pretend like the c-sec will be fine if it happens, but somewhere inside I feel bad. I know I should be grateful for my blessing, but I am afraid I might end up with post partum depression due to this. DH is also afraid of me getting PPD. One of his friend's wife recently had her baby through c-sec and has had bad PPD. I try to calm him by denying any bad feelings of getting a c-sec, but as it gets closer to my EDD it frightens me. It seems like my natural birth is slipping away from being possible.

How did some of you ladies that had a c-sec for a previous birth cope and heal from the experience?

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one day at a time. Honestly no matter how much I try to prepare for the emotions that I know that are coming I can't help but feel that there's nothing I can do to prevent them. I have a great support group here on this board and a few others, unfortunetly besides DH and my doc I don't have much IRL support which I think is also important.

If you think that PPD is more likely maybe you can discuss it with your doc now so they can help you look for it pp or at least be prepared to help you with it. I don't know which is harder, having a c-sec without it being planned or having a planned one when you really don't want one. Since yours seems more planned hopefully Beverly can give you some words of wisdom, me I don't think my frame of mind will be much help. :bighug:

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Ah, (((HUGS))) hun, I'm so sorry your having a hard time with this. I honestly had a bad dream where I found out I was having twins and was going to have a c/s in the dream I was crying and very upset. I can't imagaine what it must be like to actually be faceing it. Please know that most of us here would have all the same feeling as you are haveing, and that we're here for you when ever you need to vent/process. Hang in there, I'm sure someone who's actually btdt will be able to chime in here with better suggestions.

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Aurora, your feelings are very understandable. When you have your heart set on a natural delivery and then find out that you might need a c/s, that must be very upsetting. I would be concerned about PPD if I were to need a c/s too. But the one good thing is that it's better to know and prepare for it beforehand than to end up needing an emergency c/s at the last minute. Maybe once Anthony is born, you'll be so happy to meet him that you won't care so much about exactly how he was delivered, but if that doesn't happen and you do feel depressed (which would be completely understandable), just make sure you discuss it with your doctor. I really, really hope he'll end up turning around for you though! :goodluck:

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It is normal to be upset if your birth doesn't go the way you want. One member of this board once described having a c/s as like getting on a plane with the plan of landing in another city, but then having the plane crash and having to survive and make it to her destination by foot. She would get there and be grateful to make it (just like she she was glad her baby was healthy and she loved her), but it would be a difficult experience and not what she had planned and she would be allowed to be upset to have to go through that. She explained it better than I just did, but I hope you get the point.

If you recognize that you are at risk for PPD, you will be ready to get help if you need it. It may be beneficial to you to listen to Ayelet's conference call on postpartum health--she posted a link to the recording in her lodge, here: http://www.pregnancy.org/bulletinboards/showpost.php?p=6816028&postcount=64

This board can be a great support for recovery and processing birth experiences. I hope we can help you through this, if you do end up needing a c-section. I, also, am hoping and praying that your baby boy goes head down for you!

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38 week appt.

I had my 38 wk appt today. The baby is looking really good; yet he is still breech. My swelling is still really bad, I told him I am drinking alot of water and he told me to lay back on the water because too much water may be contributing to the swelling. My blood pressure was high again, but no protein in my urine.

He is concerned about the high blood pressure, so I have to go in on Wednesday 7/8 to check my BP. If my BP is still high then, he will schedule a c-sec for that same day or in less than a week. He finally agreed to try an external version before the c-sec; I am so happy about this. Yahoo Crossing my fingers, so that the external version works.

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So glad he agreed to try the version! Keeping fingers and toes crossed that it works!

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Aurora, how's your salt intake? believe it or not, increasing your salt intake might help alleviate the swelling and the bp... have you been craving salty foods? or mostly eating sweets? try some pickles, sauerkraut, add salt to your salad, eggs, etc... It might help.

Yay for trying a version!! Step one, bring down that bp! step 2 turn that baby! (step 3, natural, easy, uncomplicated birth!)

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Aurora, how's your salt intake? believe it or not, increasing your salt intake might help alleviate the swelling and the bp... have you been craving salty foods? or mostly eating sweets? try some pickles, sauerkraut, add salt to your salad, eggs, etc... It might help.

I thought salt was bad, but it has been a bit high. Hispanic food tends to be saltier than others.

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Salt is an essential nutrient and some believe that both consuming too much of it and not getting enough of it it can cause swelling. We Americans tend to eat too much salt because it's in a lot of it in the processed food we eat--canned or shelf-stable foods, in particular. The best strategy is to avoid the pre-prepared convenience foods because the salt in them is kind of hidden, prepare food from fresh or fresh-frozen ingredients, and salt it to taste.

Drinking too much water really shouldn't cause swelling. Not drinking enough water will because it can signal your body to retain it or because you're not flushing out toxins that lead to swelling. Be sure you're drinking enough that you're not getting thirsty, but you don't need to force yourself to drink any certain amount a day.

Here is a pregnancy.org "ask the doula" response about swelling:
http://www.pregnancy.org/question/there-help-swelling-hands-and-feet

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Watermelon is an excellent food to help with both the swelling and the blood pressure! Mmmmmm, watermelon..... :drool:

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I hope your version works!! Looks like youve got some good tips for helping your bp and swelling go down Biggrin

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Aurora! Are you going in today?? I hope your bp has dropped and the version is successful! Please KUP!!

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I hope your BP's okay today! Is your doctor doing the version today too? I really hope it works! :goodluck:

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Oooh, any updates about the version???

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Some of you ladies have already read this, but here it goes for those that haven't....

I went to my follow up appt, since my BP was high on Monday. The Dr was not there since he had 6 deliveries. The nurse took my BP and again it was really high, they told me to go to straight to the hospital, so they could do more testing on me (they would get results faster then the clinic). I was also told I might be able to see the Dr in between his c-sec and other deliveries.

I arrived at the hospital at 11am and was given a room. I was monitored and had blood drawn for testing. I didn't hear of anything until 3pm, the nurse told me that except for my high BP, everything looked and tested good. Only 1cm dilated.

The Dr was busy and told the nurse that he didn't want me to be released until he got there to check me, in approximately 2 hours (after his last c-sec). 3 hours passed and still nothing!!! Finally at 6:15pm the nurse walks in tells me the Dr has an unexpected delivery at another hospital and he would not be able to see me. I was send back home and given a clinic appt for this next Friday 7/10. That would be my third clinic visit this week!!! He better see me and make a decision on Friday. Dr wants to keep seeing me due to my BP. I spend the whole day alone (DH was working) and bored to death on a hospital room for nothing. This is the second hospital visit, hopefully my third is the last. Next appt I am taking a book and my laptop just in case I end up in the hospital again.

So no external version or anything yet Sad

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