Elizabeth's (Gorlista) Lodge (Baby's Here!!!)

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Elizabeth's (Gorlista) Lodge (Baby's Here!!!)

Here you go hun! I look forward to reading your journey! Biggrin

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Welcome to your lodge! Looking forward to reading about you and your journey to th motherhood!

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Yay! It's Elizabeth's turn too! Okay - let's hear your story!

-jodi Biggrin

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tap tap tap...I'd love to hear about you and your story. (Call me nosy!)
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Welcome to your lodge!

Tell us everything!

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Yeah!! Congrats on your lodge!

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Congrats on your lodge!

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Congrats on your lodge. Looking forward to your journey.

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Congrats Elizabeth! I wanna hear all about it!

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Yea, I have a lodge! Thank you!

Well, I'm here at 37 weeks, ready to pop this kid out. I should have started journalling a long time ago, but I will try to remember where I've come from.

I am Elizabeth, my husband is Nathan, and this is our first baby. We're both 24. I spent the past two years working as a teacher (physics and geometry) and DH is a police officer. We've been married two years. DH would have been happy to start trying for a baby as soon as we got married, but I wanted to wait and use my degree (and pay off student loans!)

But last summer, in August, something just flipped over in my mind. I went from "I want a kid someday, but not for a few more years" to "I want a baby NOW" in a matter of days. Very strange period of time. I stopped taking my bc pills, started tracking my temp every morning, and DH saw to it that we DTD as often as possible!

Two weeks after my last pill, I ovulated, and two weeks after that, I got a positive test. I was really expecting to have to wait a few months, but I guess not! But talking with my parents and the in-laws, I should have known. They never had any trouble getting pregnant either!

Since then I've been trying to wrap my mind around the fact that I'm going to have a baby. I'm sitting here surrounded by diapers and the crib and getting head-butted in the bladder, but I still don't have a full grasp of the concept. I don't think I will until they lay this squirmy little guy on me and I get to look at him!

The head-butting the bladder is calling me to run. I'll write more soon! Thanks again for my lodge! And thanks for reading!

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Elizabeth - What are you envisioning for your birth? Have you decided on a name for your son yet????

-Jodi

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Continuing.... I'll try to get caught up to date here.

As a lot of you may know, I am having difficulty getting the natural prenatal care and birth I want because I have thyroid issues. I was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism last summer, about three months before I got pregnant. This means that my thyroid produces too much hormone, resulting in me being constantly hot, having difficulty gaining weight, really high energy levels and difficulty sleeping followed by several days of "crash" because of lack of sleep, and it made my hair thin out. I did a lot of research on the two main medications available for hyperthyroidism, and got on PTU before I became pregnant. By the time I was 20 weeks pregnant, my levels were normal and I've been off the meds ever since. Unfortunately, I'm still "high risk", because it'd possible that the baby has thyroid issues, and it's likely that my thyroid is still over-producing, just not releasing most of the hormones. This could result in a "thyroid storm" during stressful events (such as birth) which is why I have to have an OB, and have to be in a hospital. Most likely, however, there will be no issues, and I will just go back to being hyperthyroid after birth and have to deal with it then.

Going through all of this and doing tons of research about the treatment options, I was very surprised by the disconnect between what I found in journal articles and what my doctor was telling me. For example, there are two meds for hyperthyroidism. One of them is rarely used during pregnancy due to a risk of a skin disorder in the baby. The research I found, however, showed that there was actually no correlation found between either drug and the skin condition, but that most likely the original findings were done before the second drug became common. Also, every article I could find emphasized that either drug is better than not treating during pregnancy. And yet my endocrinologist wanted to take me off the meds entirely when I went of BC, and made me switch to the "lower risk" drug even though we had figured out a good dose on the "higher risk" one.

And of course I was really surprised at how heavily the doctor was pushing radioactive iodine treatment. This is the "normal" treatment for hyperthyroidism. They give you radioactive iodine with a half life of a few days. Your thyroid is the only organ in the body that absorbs iodine, so it all concentrates there, and just kills off the cells. So now instead of being hyperthyroid, you are hypothyroid, and have to take synthetic hormones for the rest of your life. And THIS is what my doctor wanted to do when I had been diagnosed for three months. He would rather kill off my thyroid and make me dependent on drugs than give me very low risk drugs during TTC and pregnancy. :roll:

And so that is where I came to look at medical doctors a little more skeptically. I've always looked at childbirth as a very natural event. I keep telling myself that I could have this baby alone in the woods if I had to. (Or the desert!) It will hurt, I will bleed, and there is a risk of things going wrong, but more than likely I will be fine. In fact, I might be better out there than in a hospital! The more research I did, the more I was shocked to find out how pointless or harmful many routine procedures can be.

I've been doing lots of research on birth and the various options, and you ladies have been a great resource. I have felt a little awkward at times here because I am doing a hospital birth, and am not really doing ncb for the "experience" but rather for medical reasons. I'm a science nerd at heart and love doing research and really have a reason for the things I do. And it has been great reading about many of your reasons, both emotional and scientific. I feel that just lurking here and occasionally posting has really helped me to grow more comfortable with my decisions.

As I am getting closer to the day when baby will decide to come, I am really hoping that it will be a short and easy birth, of course! We live just 5 minutes from the hospital so I plan to stay home as long as possible. DH has taken Bradley courses with me, but is really "going along" rather than gung-ho about all this. I think he will be excited to get me to the hospital faster than I'd like. So deep down, I really hope that I go into labor when he;s at work, so I can call MIL over to help me, and then we can call him later in the day when we're closer to ready. I hope to get to the hospital and be close to pushing. I am BGS negative so I hope to avoid even the heplock at this point, but I think the OB will insist because of my thyroid. I am trying not to envision anything more specific than this, because I have a tendency to get disappointed with myself if things don't go as I had anticipated. So I just hope to bring home a healthy baby sometime in the month of July!

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Thanks for sharing your story! It is great to hear that you are a science nerd, and it sounds like it is really paying off during both treatment of your hyperthyroidism and your pregnancy.

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Elizabeth -

I'm glad you are a "science nerd" because I've found out that having a medical condition - you kinda have to be in order to get good care. (I've got hypothyroid & pituitary) I went through several specialists - which could treat me - but not make me "normal" enough to have a successful pregnancy - until I did the research on my own and told them what I wanted my course of treatment to be.... Sorry you had to deal with the frustration too!

Sounds like your DH is a bit like mine as well - I plan to not tell him if I go into labor in the night - just wake up and go in the living room, let him sleep and call my MW's.... he get nervous and I think that if he felt "alone" with a laboring wife - he'd want some medical people around. So hopefully I'll be able to get the MW's here before he realizes it Lol The things we do for our men!

I'm also glad that you are here! I think more people woudl make the decision to labor and birth w/o so much meds if they only knew the info!

yay for you!

-Jodi Biggrin

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Well, it's after midnight, so I am now 38 weeks pregnant! My brother and I were both two weeks early, so I feel like I'm on high alert!

I was really hopping that baby would come today. I was up every hour last night with contractions and having to use the bathroom, which really hurts when those things come together. I was hoping that was a sign that my body was "clearing out" for baby, but no dice. I rested most of the day, took a short nap and had a couple bad contractions this evening, but they're all gone now.

I was really hoping for a 4th baby because my niece and nephew were born on the 3rd and on the 5th. I thought it would be nice to just keep that string going. Maybe the 7th? Biggrin

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I feel your pain! I am up too, I was up last night! That LO will suprise you and come when he's ready! I would have loved a 4th of July baby! Maybe the 7th is your lucky day?

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The 7th sounds like a great day! And I still think those contractions are doing something even though we may not be able to tell. Hang in there Elizabeth... you're in my thoughts!

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I think my body is getting me ready to have this baby. Not the birth, but actually living with the baby. I was up until 3 last night, knitting, and had to force myself to go to bed. And then I woke up when DH was getting ready for work, and didn't fall back asleep. So 4 hours of sleep, and here I am. I'll need a nap soon, but I have an appointment at 1, so I might have to postpone the nap.

The calls are starting to come in, as well. Both of my parents called yesterday just to "check in". Do they really think we won't call? Lol Soon I think I'll start calling them at random times and timing how long it takes for them to answer the phone!

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I definitely know what you mean about the new sleep-schedule thing; it's been very strange. Some nights I'm up wide awake until 2 or 3 am when I finally force myself to go lie down (well, except for the nights when I don't, and I'm still pacing around or reading a book at 6 am...) Other nights I sleep sort-of through the night and can barely drag myself out of bed at 8 am...

I certainly know what you mean with the medical condition. I spent years listening to the endos with my son's diabetes, until I finally started reading up on the latest ideas and treatments myself. I was shocked at how far behind most of the endos are; they're using the same insulins and advice that they were using in the 1970s.

Yes, those insulins can keep the kid alive and for some people they're even the best option, but I expected that the endos would also be aware of the latest changes and know how to match the medications and lifestyles with the patients. Instead, they all seem to go with a one-size-fits-all approach!

We've switched endos 5 times now over the 10 years, been to all three of the pediatric endocrinology clinics in the area (we're lucky, most people are happy if there is one ped endo clinic within a 2-hour driving radius), and have learned that although seeing the endo can provide reassurance ("we're seeing a trained medical person" kind of thing)--unless we do the legwork and learn things ourselves, then go ahead and make changes on our own initiative, there is no progress. It's appalling, what they consider acceptable as far as results and average numbers.

Meghan

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Meghan, I can't imagine having to deal with endocrinologists for years. It's just been a year for me and I'm already sick of it! Hormones are confusing things!

I just came back from my 38 week appointment, and everything is normal. Good NST, OB estimates baby is about 7.5 lbs, and I'm 1 cm dialated, 60% effaced, -2 station. I sent DH a text message with all that info, and he asked, "What does that mean in stupid terms?". I guess it means absolutely nothing! Biggrin

But in better news, we're getting paid back for the humidity yesterday and today. I hear rumblings of thunder, and I've seen a few rain drops. The monsoons are coming! Finally!

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I agree, your body makes you get used to no sleep before the baby comes. I've been up "with" you many nights lately. I even see you online!

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More weird sleeping, and now I think things might be happening....

I laid down to take a nap around 4 today. I dozed on and off, and woke up when DH got home from work around 8. I didn't want to get up but I suddenly felt that horrible feeling like when your period starts suddenly. I thought after the cervical check today I might be bleeding, so I went to the bathroom and put in a pad. There was a teeny little drop of blood.

I ended up laying back down and dozing a few more hours. I kept feeling like I was leaking, but nothing too serious. It's been about 5 hours since I noticed this, and I'm still leaking, just a little. It's enough to make me feel like I should call the doctor, but not enough to actually make me do it. And to make things more frustrating, I havn't had a single contraction this entire time.

I guess I'll try to just sleep. If this is it, I'll need the rest.

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Good luck! Another night that we are up together! I hope something is happening for the both of us! I had that feeling of leaking a lot today too, although I didn't get checked. Are you going to share what you dr said?

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I called the OB line, and they paged the doctor. She said to go to the hospital, but I really wished I could have actually talked to her. It's still just barely a trickle, and no painful contractions (I do notice my belly is really hard sometimes, but I can't even feel it).

I really don't want to go to the hospital and get the "clock" started on me, so we decided to stay home for now. DH needed to sleep, and I probably should as well. If I'm still leaking in the morning, we'll go. Or if I get hard contractions, I'll wake him up.

It seems like I should be spending this time making sure we've got the bag packed, or cleaning, or cooing over baby clothes, or something, but all I want to do is look at yarn online, and eat. So that's what I'm doing! I don't knit socks, I don't even wear socks, but I'm drooling over sock yarn! Biggrin

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How exciting! I don't blame you for wanting to eat and check out yarn...I'm not one of those ladies who rushes around cooking and cleaning, either.

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Wishing you the very best Elizabeth. Perhaps you'll be the first to knit while delivering? Wink

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Well, I slept, and no change. DH woke me up when he got up for work, but there wasn't any big sign (like contractions or a puddle of water on the bed) to make me think I should go in, so I'm still home, and still vaugley wondering if this is real or just me wanting to get excited about something.

My MIL called this morning, and I told her about all this, and now she's very excited. She called back five minutes later to remind me that they can drive me to the hospital if I need to go. They live 1/2 a mile down the road -- I think I know who to call if I decide to get this checked out. Biggrin

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"gardenbug" wrote:

Wishing you the very best Elizabeth. Perhaps you'll be the first to knit while delivering? Wink

Maybe that's the solution to my chronic loose tension! Lol

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Elizabeth, it's so nice that you have a MIL who is willing to help out!

Not much longer now, but I'm sure it seems like an eternity to you.

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Elizabeth,
Glad to hear you are still doing alright! Sorry about the sleepless stuff - I think lots of us are up in the night for that same reason...(me included)..

Your MIL made me Lol I can see mine saying the same thing - if only she lived nearby!

And even though you don't usually make socks - or wear them - baby socks are VERY cute! Maybe it would be something you will end up doing during labor! ROFL

-Jodi

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Okay, I'm going. I don't want to, but I've started to actually feel some of my contractions. Just waiting on MIL to get here.

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Good luck!!!!!

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False alarm. They checked, and whatever I'm leaking, it's not amniotic fluid. And I'm still 1 cm dialated. Oh well.

The good thing was that I had a contraction while on the NST monitor, which has never happened before, and I got to see that it really was a good contraction, and lasted quite a while (about two minutes) but didn't hurt at all. Maybe those will keep coming!

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Just getting caught up here Elizabeth... sounds like things are moving in the right direction! That is very exciting Smile And I think you should give in and start knitting some little baby booties or something... they would be adorable!

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Well, it's good that you got checked out. And nice to know your MIL is so helpful when the time really does come!

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Wow, I really need to vent. We went to the hospital for a tour today, and I cannot believe how horrible it was.

The hospital is great. The birthing rooms are huge, have a bed for DH, and have huge bathrooms with showers (and two rooms with tubs) in the room. They have a kitchen just for patients (I am so sneaking food in labor!) and a nice waiting room for MIL and FIL!

But oh, the lady giving the tour was horrid. She just rambled and went on on the weirdest things. It was painful and boring. I wanted a beer so badly. But I'm really glad we went because I got to learn a few of the hospital policies, so I know what I need to talk to my doctors about.

The worst was when she showed us the fetal monitor and was showing off how long the cords are. "But you're not wearing that all the time, right?" "Oh, if your doctor is okay with it, I guess they can take you off for 10-15 minutes each hour." :roll:

Seriously, I rolled my eyes at her.

I already know my doctors are fine with just 15 minutes of every hour, and I'm hoping to talk them down from that. I think I need to re-write my birthing plan and take it in tomorrow.

Also, I forgot to ask about a squatting bar for the bed, but I'll ask the doctors tomorrow.

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Okay, I revamped my birth plan and will take it to the doctors tomorrow. And I am going to make one of them sign off on it so that I can show the nurses if we run into any issues.

Here it is. Thoughts?

Birth Plan for Elizabeth Warner

I wish to attempt a natural, non-medicated birth, and would appreciate being helped by nurses who are supportive of this goal.

I would like to be placed in a birthing room with a tub, if at all possible.

Labor
I expect that doctors and hospital staff will discuss all procedures with me before they are performed.
I would like to be free to walk, change positions and use the bathroom as needed or desired.
I prefer to eat and drink throughout labor, as desired.
I will remain hydrated by drinking moderate amounts of fluids (water, juice, ice chips).
So I can stay as mobile as possible, I would prefer to have a heparin lock administered instead of an IV.
I would like a quiet, soothing environment during labor, with dim lights and minimal interruptions.
Please limit the number of vaginal exams.
I wish to labor freely in the birthing tub or shower.
I prefer that fetal heart tones be monitored intermittently with an external monitor or doppler, even if the membranes have ruptured.
Please allow me to vocalize as desired during labor and birth without comment or criticism.

Labor Induction/Augmentation
I would like to avoid induction unless it is medically necessary.
Please do not rupture my membranes artificially unless medically indicated.

Anesthesia/Pain Medication
Please do not offer anesthesia/analgesia unless I ask for it.
If I ask for pain relief, please feel free to offer nonmedical choices for coping and/or remind me how close I am to the birth.

Cesarean Section Delivery
I feel very strongly that I would like to avoid a cesarean delivery.
If a cesarean is necessary, I expect to be fully informed of all procedures and actively participate in decision-making.
I would like Nathan to be present during the surgery.
Please explain the surgery to me as it happens.
If possible, please do not strap my arms to the table during the procedure.
If possible, I would like to breastfeed our baby immediately after the birth.

Perineal Care
I prefer not to have an episiotomy unless it is medically indicated.
Please administer local anesthesia when repairing any episiotomy or tear(s).

Delivery
Even if I am fully dilated, and assuming our baby is not in distress, I would like to wait until I feel the urge to push before beginning the pushing phase.
I prefer to push or not push according to my instincts and would prefer not to have guidance or coaching in this effort.
I do not want to use stirrups while pushing.
I would like the freedom to push and deliver in any position I like.

After birth
Please place our baby on my stomach/chest immediately after delivery.
I would like to breastfeed our baby immediately.
Nathan would like the option to cut the cord.
Please allow the umbilical cord to stop pulsating before it is cut.
I prefer to wait for spontaneous delivery of the placenta and do not want a routine injection of pitocin.
Please remove my IV/Heparin lock/catheter as soon as possible after delivery.

Newborn Care
I would like to hold our baby skin-to-skin during the first hours to help regulate baby's body temperature.
I would like to hold our baby through delivery of the placenta and any repair procedures.
Please evaluate and bathe our baby at my bedside.
If possible, please evaluate our baby on my abdomen.
If our baby must go to the nursery for evaluation or medical treatment, Nathan, or someone I designate, will accompany our baby at all times.
Please delay eye medication for our baby until we are well past the initial bonding period (a couple hours after the birth).
I would prefer to have Vitamin K administered orally.

Breastfeeding
I plan to breastfeed and want to nurse immediately following the birth.
Please do not give our baby supplements (including formula, glucose, or plain water) without my consent, unless there is an urgent medical necessity.
Please do not give our baby a pacifier.
I would like to meet with the staff lactation consultant.

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Your birth plan looks pretty good to me! And very similar to mine -- gee, imagine that considering we both did Bradley Wink

One thing I had on mine that you don't that I noticed is under Induction/Augmentation, I put something about wanting to try natural methods of augmentation before resorting to medical ones (eg nipple stimulation before pitocin). Also, you have the same thing on your plan that my doctor vetoed on mine -- he refused to NOT give me the pitocin afterward. He said he always gives it because there are bleeding issues otherwise. So just be prepared if your doctor says the same thing!

Definitely get it signed soon! You might actually go in labor early and want to have it ready Biggrin Jesse was so thoughtful today. When I called him from the hospital he asked me like 3 times if I was sure he didn't need to run home before meeting me there to grab the signed copy of our birth plan. That thought hadn't even occurred to me in the midst of all the excitement!

Let us know what your doctor says about your birth plan, if he vetoes anything, etc!

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Looks like a good birth plan! I've been putting off getting ours together. Many of the things you have listed are standard in our hospital, so that comforts me. Good to hear that your husband is on board with the plan and knows how important it is!

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Looks good Elizabeth! Hope your dr signs off on everything for you.

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Your plan looks great!

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:oops: I ended up falling asleep during my NST yesterday and when I woke up, I completely forgot to grab the doctor. So I didn't get the plan signed off on. :oops:

But the baby's hb looked great, and I got a nice little nap in.

DH found out yesterday that a class he got approved for starts at the end of this month. The 29th, I think. It's a week-long class that will allow him to teach at the Academy. He really wants to be a physical fitness trainer for new officers. I've already agreed that he gets to go to the class, no matter when baby comes, so I REALLY hope he doesn't decide to wait too long. I don't want DH to have to go to this class just a few days after baby arrives!

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Ugh. Sorry you fell asleep, but at least you got a nap in. Biggrin

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Congrats to your husband! Hopefully things work out with your little one and the training doesn't interfere too much. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

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Congrats to your husband and I hope that baby comes at a good time for the both of you....

I'm glad you got a nap in the office! Naps are great about now Wink

-Jodi

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I talked with the doctor today about my birth plan, and I think we're going to be okay. She really emphasized staying home for as long as possible, and she put in my chart that I want to have a natural birth.

We talked about eating during labor, and that unless something happens to increase my risk of c-sectiom, they don't mind too much. I probably won't want to eat (I get nauseous any time I get sick or nervous) but it's good knowing that I can eat if I want to.

As for the monitoring, she said that they will want to listen to the HB for at least one full contraction every 15-20 minutes. I think they might even let me go with just a doppler rather than the full NST hook up. As long as I'm not stuck with those things constantly, I should be fine.

I ran all my diapers and covers through the wash (just in case) and the dryer to set the PUL today, and stuffed all the pockets. They're so cute and tiny! I can't wait to put them on this little guy!

And since I'm sick of starting projects and finishing them (when I expect to get interupted by labor) I decided to start a project I can't possibly finished before the baby gets here, even if it takes two weeks. It's a cardigan from No Sheep for You. It's knit on size three needles and every stitch is charted. If this doesn't keep me busy, I don't know what will!

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WOW! That's lovely! I like working with size 3 needles. Fine work is beautiful! Hmmmm, wonder when it will be completed ;)???

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"gardenbug" wrote:

WOW! That's lovely! I like working with size 3 needles. Fine work is beautiful! Hmmmm, wonder when it will be completed ;)???

My guess is September '08. Biggrin

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Smile Beautiful... and I love the date!

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That's great you got the birth plan approved! It's interesting the way they want to do your intermittent monitoring... My hospital does it 10 minutes every hour. I guess it just depends on the hospital policy! I was told I'd be able to move a good bit even while I'm strapped, so hopefully you will too!

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"cmljll" wrote:

That's great you got the birth plan approved! It's interesting the way they want to do your intermittent monitoring... My hospital does it 10 minutes every hour. I guess it just depends on the hospital policy! I was told I'd be able to move a good bit even while I'm strapped, so hopefully you will too!

Hmm. I do NSTs twice a week and I can't really move around or I lose the heartbeat. I guess as they get bigger it is easier to keep track of them, but I wouldn't get your heart set on moving much when you're hooked up...

What a beautiful pattern! I've learned how to knit in the last year, and I haven't attempted anything nearly so intricate. That is going to be gorgeous!

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