You'll HAVE to KUP!!! LOL!
I'm so glad she arrived safely.
I just got in from work and saw that 3 pages had been added to your lodge since I last checked it! I thought I'd missed your labour! LOL!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ERIKA
i hope telling kyle's mom went smooth, you definately don't need any bad thoughts now!!! i'm glad you had a nice initial meeting and dinner with gail. i'll be thinking of you today!!! your family is in my thoughts and prayers. have a great day!!!!!colleen
Can't wait to hear about MIL's reaction...
How are you doing today?
Do you feel like a big weight has dropped off your shoulders now that Gail has been there a bit?
And is the MIL situation calming down?
Happy Birthday Erika!
lol Oh boy. I hope the telling went well.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! ((hugs))
Happy Birthday!! Thinking about you!
Hiya! You've probably read this already but in case not - here's a twin (HBAC) homebirth story from Empowered Childbirth -
They were born the same day as Miriam, as it turns out...
I'm sorry to keep you all on pins and needles. Kyle was on the phone for more than 45 minutes and it didn' go well and then i was talking with my Mom and Kyle needed some TLC last ngiht - so i didn;t get back to the computer.
Kyle paces when he is on the phone. So he went outside on his cell phone and paced in the cold. He wouldn't let me listen. So....
I guess he got both his parents on the phone and asked them some things about why they ahven't asked about birthing plans. And they said they were giving him/us space. But they didn;t act curious - even at that point. (I don;t think they REALLY wanted to know) So he explained that he waited until 37 weeks because there really isn't an "official" plan without the babies being full term and without Erika being helthy. He reinforced that we ahve had perinatology care and MW'y care throughout the pregnancy and reminded them that in october when they asked about our appointment (this was the MW/OB team that crapped out). That we told them it was a "very bad appointment and we probably weren't going back" of course this was the weekend of his sisters' wedding. Soooo he explianed how we have a MW living here (he didn;t tell her from where and they didn't ask) and he explained that we have the perinatologist and we will/can go to the hospital is there are any concerns or problems that arrise with either me or the babies - but that we have the oppotunity to homebirth the babies and that we feel it's in the best interest of our family.
Well, it all didn't go over well. His mom did cry, there was no yelling or argueing - but they gave him the deadly silence and said the were very dissapointed in him and didn't approove of his decesion. they went on to say how "unsafe" it was and that he should be thinking less of himself and more of the babies. he made a comment about if we lived in Chicago that we would have had different choices. he sited the OB group that delivered all my Mom's kids (he employs 4 MW's and lets them catch twins - not that I'd use them - but anyways) Of course his sister is an RN (just got her liscense this summer) and works L&D and she says "those midwives are the msot unsafe people they see" You get the idea.
I prepped him (as did Gail and our other MW) to not expect excitement - but I think he had "hope" that he would be met with some expectation even if not.
Sorry to hear it didn't go over so well. It sounds like it's exactly what you expected though. You have obviously done every bit of research you can possibly do and ARE making the best choice for yourself and your babies.
I'm sorry you guys don't have their support. Those are hard things to hear from your parents. I would try to limit my contact with them until after the birth. I think you'd have a hard time bringing them around in such a short amount of time and the less negativity you hear/experience the better. Just wait and give them the good news and introduce them to their healthy, happy newborn granddaughters.
HUGS!!! sorry it didn't go well, but that was to be expected with how they hadn't asked...In reality they already knew....
Sorry about their reactions.
That's really too bad.
Sorry to hear about the ILs. Hope you are feeling well today and that those babies are growing strong!
Sorry about their lame reactions Erika... Don't let it bug you- you and Kyle are doing what is BEST for these babies!
I'm not letting it bug me....but I can see it's bugging Kyle. Both FIL and MIL called me seperately today to wish me a happy birthday and didn't say a thing.
I've been focusng a lot on the birth. My nights are very painful. When I am in bed and try to move at all it's like knives stabbing me in the belly during a gaint charlie horse while having to pee at the same time(not cool). Sometimes I worry that labor is going to be much worse than olivia's - but there really isn't much i can do except relax and let go and I know that's what I need to do. At elast now Gail is here and when i really get wound up I can relax and envsion things openng up and moving forward. Rather than desperately praying that it isn't labor. It's jsut that the nights are long. last night I was sooooo tired and I zonked out jsut after 11pm and I woke up at 12:30 and I SWEAR I thought I was going to die. Then I saw the clock and it said 12:23 grrrrr That just sucks! That means HOURS of the trying to find SOMEHWERE to sleep. Carrying the twins has been much more challenging than my pregnancy with Olivia. I've had such great health overall and have only the pure discomforts of running out of space for two and the huge belly discomforts - but DANG....someone is always poking me or rearranging.
We went to Costco today and I went to the bathroom and there was this man waiting for someone and as I walked by he said under his breath) "Oh My GOD" loud eough for me to hear him gasp - and I'm thinking......."geez man cut me some slack" - I just wanted to turn around and say "yeah....and I could be pregnant for another 3 weeks." and watch him turn a pasty shade of white!
Today we went and picked up an extra O2 tank and mask from another local midiwife who is "aiding and ebedding" That way if my second midwife is late or doesn't make it (she has a 2 hour drive) then we will have at least one of everything.
Tomorrow my second midwife and my third birth assistant are coming for our big house visit and we'll have all the supplies in place ...yipeee It's for real!
ok, off to play the sleep game!
Hi Erika, I've been following your lodge but haven't posted much. Just sending some support, you're doing great!
Sorry about the guy at Cosco...just remember they can't see it's twins from the outside! and no one with twins is usually up and around at this time because they are either on bed rest or don't make it this long, but it's better for your babies that you've made it this long, and the closer to 40 weeks the less trouble you will have with BF. My baby was born at 36 6 and he had a tough time learning to BF so the closer to full term the better! HUGS!!!!
I'm hoping you get some sleep. I'm sorry it's been rough...natures way of being sure you are READY for labor and READY to meet your babies! Relax and breath!!! Remeber we all LOVE YOU!!! and are sending you PRAYERS HUGS and ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN!
So you dropped the bomb to the inlaws. You know, they are just not going to get it, and that's about them not you. Of course their reaction makes an impact in your life and in Kyle's. But maybe they need to see that this is going to be ok. Birth is the process of opening up as the baby passes. Perhaps their minds will open too once the girls have made their journey.
I hope you get some good rest because sleep sounds really tough for you now and you need it.
You are amazing. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. March forward. Keep your focus. You're almost there.
Aw sweete sending lots of + energy to Kyla nad to you. That's really rough w/ the ILs, I'm sorry.
Hang in there. It's nearly 1am, I hope you're sleeping right now. Girls you settle down and let your poor mama rest!
I do wish you'd said that, to the guy at Cosco... LOL late pg is such a perfect excuse to say EXACTLY what you're thinking and get away with it.
sending big hugs and lots of support.
Sorry things didn't go well with the ILs. It's always hard when someone you love is hurting...so much easier to take the critcism yourself and be able to process it, while there is probably not a whole lot you can say to make it better for DH. Sorry your ILs are so closeminded.
Hope you were able to get some rest last night. You are one of my inspirations not to complain too much if I have some aches and pains...especially since I still have a way to go with only one baby! Feel better!
I remember very clearly being 37wks with my boys, I couldn't turn in bed either b/c my poor stomach muscles were sooooo stretched! Sorry about the guy at Costco, people can be SO RUDE! I started getting the "Oh my GAWD" comments starting around 6 months :roll:
I'm also sorry to hear things didn't go well with the IL's - I think even when it's expected not to, when it actually happens it's still hard to deal with. You both have a lot of courage & I admire that.
Here's to some quiet babies, sleep filled nights & a bit of peace before the big day! ((hugs))
Sorry about your ILs, but I'm sure you expected that. Mine would not get it either. I want to send you lots of peaceful vibes for sleep and for labor. It will be an incredible experience and utterly amazing! I can't wait to "meet" your little ones.
My IL's would not get it either...I'm not looking forward to explaining the concept of homebirth either to them come time for the next baby. After all my BIL is a DR...so hospitals are there because people like my BIL want to do good and help people, and that's the ONLY reason according to them (my MIL and FIL).
Did you get some rest? A little at least? It's so anti climactic now that you aren't posting as much since you have a house guest, and the midwife is there, but I'm not complaining at all because I know it's for the best, and will allow you to relax and open and birth the babies in peace and comfort.
HUGS!!! Hugs to Kyle too....my hubby has a great relationship with his parents, and I just know how it would CRUSH him if his parents were excited for him, or supportive, those boys really DEPEND on their mommies. But it is good that he's clinging to you instead of his mommy and being supportive of you, and defending the decision you have made together that is the BEST for YOUR family!
I just had to drop another note and let you know that I'm thinking of you and sending all my blessings to you and your home!
Sorry about the in-laws, Erika We always expect close people to be supportive and understanding, that's why it's much harder to take it when they're not. Your story is TRULY inspirational for so many and if in-laws don't get it - well, too bad for them. You have a huge cheering squad here :kaos3: :kaos3: :kaos3:
Just wanted to let you know that I am thinking of you Erika, you are doing a great job!
Sorry that your IL's aren't more supportive!
Well I guess it's nice that they at least called to wish you a happy birthday! Even though they don't agree with your birthing choices, I'm glad that they're not being hostile or stressing you out. I wish they would be more supportive of your birth - it's going to be amazing! I'm so excited for you!
Wow! sending you a huge stack of easy labour vibes! Hope you get to see your babies soon! I have been following your lodge for a few weeks and Look forward to hearing all about your fabulous HB!!!
Erika, you are such an inspiration! I"m sorry the ILs weren't supportive. But you'll show them! When you're lying in bed with your two healthy little girls, and no episiotomy, c section, or interventions, you can tell them, "I told you so." People just don't get that modern medicine is not always in the best interests of moms and babies.
Sending lots of good thoughts. We haven't heard from you in a bit. Hope all is going well!
All is going well. Actually nothing is going.... I really wanted to prove my MIL wrong and have January babies. now it feels like they will never come. I was so wound up last week and having sooooo many contractions and nervous if Gail would make it - not I'm getting nothing. Just the paina nd discomforts of the babies moving and situational stuff. Had a good series this morning from 4-5 but everything fizzled away. I think I hit readiness. I kind of have three due dates. My lay MW calculates my dues date as Jan 15th - which makes me 38 wks tomorrow, I always had the 17th in my mind, and My original MW calculated the 19th (but I know hers is long b/c she always adds days just in case a momma goes over). So all along I have split the difference and figured my date which makes Wednesday 38 weeks.
I know the date doesn't mean a darn thing........ and neither does checking - but I never went through this with Olivia.
Kyle and I haven't DTD in weeks b/c we didn't want to encourage anything just prior to Gail coming. And with the way things were going it was a good call. I think we need to get motivated in that department though......
The second baby on my right is still flipping around and being my little creative monkey. How the heck does she have any room? It makes me wonder if there is just too much room and they are going to hang out for weeks....
Our lay mdiwife and third attendant came over yesterday for the home visit prental. All is well. No protien, no swelling, heat tones are great, babies are head down, fluid feels at good levels. It was good. we have all the supplies assembled and at the house. My third person jsut had her baby a week ago - so I got to hold her little man (Jonas) and I think it gave me baby lust.
Anyways, all is well - just kind of anti-climactic at the moment.
We're going to cut the plastic for the floor and lay out the towels and stuff today.
I know it doesn't feel like it because you are tired, and uncomfortable, but it really is better to get closer to term. Remember we all love you and are pulling for you. Is Kyle still working? Does he go back on tuesday after new years? or is he off on leave already? Maybe Gail can watch olivia so you can get some rest during the day while Kyle is at work. Remember if you can you need to let us know when you think your in labor. So we can be thinking of you and sending our prayers and blessings. You are so empowering to the rest of us!
Kyle is going back to work on Tuesday - unless of course soemthing happens. I think I am going to take Olivia and go to our cloth diaper circle group - it's "help group" on cloth dipes but really for most o fus it's a reason to get together and let the kids play. Then I'll come home and put her down for a nap and probably me too. Tuesday night is our monthly ICAN meeting. So I am going to take Gail and she is going to speak on VBAC's from her experience.
Wednesday: We'll veg in the morning and then I'll drop Olivia off with one of my girlfriends. i ahve an accupuncture appointment at 1:45. Gail has never seen accupucnture so she'll come along and then we have our last ultrasound - 38wks. kyle will meet us there and then we'll go get Olivia and be done for the day. The rest of the week is up for grabs at the moment.....
Hey Erika! I'm so sorry for not posting much on your lodge - but like so many people I've been checking in and rooting for you through these weeks.
I can completely relate to your feeling of readiness; there seems to be a moment when we switch from telling these babies to stay put to willing them to come into the world. The truth of it all is that we just have to wait for their moment to come. For me, it's a struggle to trust that my body will know what to do when it's time. But you just gotta remember that women have done this far longer than we've had "due dates" or other medical constraints..
Anyway, Happy New Year to you, it looks like we'll both have little January babies for 2007! I will love to hear how the acupuncture goes - that's my next appt to make if nothing happens this week!
I wish I could be a fly on the wall for the ICAN meeting. Is anyone taping it? I'd love to see a tape!!
ditto Lydia, I'd like to see a tape too.
Given that contractions have slowed down, I bet they were from stress.
So glad that all is going well there.
Wow, you have the next few days planned out. Maybe those plans will get disrupted...
I hope it won't be much longer for you, maybe they will be born on New Year's Day!
I don't think anyone is taping - I'll email our leader and see what she thinks.
I do think the earlier contractions were stress induced. Part nerves and part physical exertion, since now Kyle has stayed home .
Oh...I have to go....Olivia is a mess
I think they were stress too!!
Good luck with Olivia! Let us know what she got herself into!
Sorry, Kyle had jsut gotten Miss O. up from her nap and she was on melt down and needed mommy cuddles.
I am so happy I'm not having December babies!!!! hehehehe Kyle's b/d is the 15th and my birthday is the 29th of Dec. and we never really liked it. Also MIL INSISTED I wouldn't have January babies and that thye would come in December - that's mean of me isn't it...... oh well :roll:
I am really getting uncomfortable. I finished prepping my space today. We ahve all the supplies, Kyle put the plastic on the floor, everyhting is laid out. I finished my birthing music CD's and Kyle burned those off for me - so it's up to them now.
I'm off to go float in the tub and practice with my "zone out" music.
Hurry up and wait!!! I'm still enjoying the journey though.
You're still enjoying the journey? OMG, I cannot believe you. You are tremendous.
I'm am so right there cheering for you that your babies will be January girls since your MIL was such a pill about that.
How did the meeting go tonight?
Happy New Year!
Glad Gail is there and you can relax now. It must feel good to have the house ready and everything falling into place. Well looks like you made it to have January babies. Enjoy the snow.
I'm just so proud of you for making it this far, and enjoying your journey for the rest! Being just a few weeks ahead of me, you've marked most of my journey. I'm hoping I can kick as much butt as you.
On a selfish note, I wish they'd come already I can't wait to see them!
Hello Erika! I'm a fellow home birthing mama (who had her lodge forever ago it seems..in August!) and I've been following your lodge and have been thinking/praying for you daily. You are such an inspiration to me and I wish you the best of luck. I'm ready to see these beautiful twins!
I know telling the in-laws was so scary...with my first, my in-laws actually said out of hospital birth was child abuse!
You are so prepared mentally and physically...I CANNOT wait to see these beautiful babies!
It sounds like your really prepared Erika, that's so awsome!!!
I'd love to be at that ICAN meeting, I've no doubt it'll be a good one - you'll have to share the keynotes with us
Happiest of new years to you! I already know you'll be getting a terrific gift in 2007!
Hey Erika, I've been lurking on your lodge, mostly b/c I can't keep up w/ it! But I'm finally up to date, so I just wanted to wish you tons of easy, quick, uncomplicated labor vibes - and soon!
I was totally frustrated for you when I read about your IL's reaction - my DH is opposed to HB right now (after this baby is born, I'll start working on him for the next one, so we have time to convince him!) but I'm pretty sure that if I got him on board it would still be a huge struggle to convince all the parentals that this is a good a safe decision...
You have done the research, you have even had a HB b4, considering how wonderful you're doing so far and how close to term you are (as far as your babies' development) you have every reason in the world to believe that you are going to have a safe, natural, enjoyable HB experience! Esp w/ the expertise of Gail there with you!!!
Hi Everybody - Happy New Year!!! I know lots of people due around this time want the baby for the tax deduction - but that's not much in my realm (or Kyle's).
Anyways, had a good hour+ of adventure last night - but then things fizzled out. I had contractions in my dreams, but I'm not sure if I was contracting or not. I guess it doesn't really matter. I know things will go when they need to and I if I can work on it in my sleep - all the better!
Woohoo! You go girl! We're all cheering for you. Too bad about your family's reaction. But you're doing the best and healthiest thing for your girls, so don't let them bother you. And January babies! Yay!