Erika's twin homebirth lodge (#2) Entering the birth circle.

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Erika's twin homebirth lodge (#2) Entering the birth circle.

Welcome to your SECOND lodge!! Two babies, two lodges! Could it be more symbolic Wink It's time to enter that circle, enclose yourself in your saftey bubble, were here to surround & support you at this increadible time of your life!

On a more personal note, I'm so exited for you Erika, your a dear friend & I look forward to reading the rest of your increadible journey!

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Congrats, Erika!! Hurray, you have made it.

I'm so excited to be even a small part of your big twins' homebirth.

You are an incredible woman and mama. Thank you for sharing such an intimate and personal part of yourself.

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wow, a 2nd lodge!!! how cool is that. i agree with Jennie, thank you for letting us all in on such a special time in your life journey. the anticipation is really building. i know i have posted before that i have had 3 births, none of which were natural. but all the women on this board have made me question the possibility. definately question my ob on all the needless interventions. i have always just "done what i was told" . but i am ttc #4 now, and was talking to dh about looking for a mw instead!! he thought that was fine, he knows how miserable i was about constantly needing this test, that test, ultrasound everyweek..... i was always at the hospital instead of home enjoying.......

anyhow..... you are truly amazing.......and a household name around these parts. even dh asked if you had the twins yet. too funny.

anymore dreams????

your in our thoughts!!! colleen Biggrin

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Yea for lodge #2!

I am so excited for you and feel so lucky to be able to look in on your journey. It gives me such hope for my first birth experience. If you have been so graceful with two, I should at least be able to manage one! LOL!

Thank you for letting us all follow you along on your journey.

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Welcome to part 2. love ya.
xo Robin

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How awesome to have a lodge part "deaux" to cool!

I went for accupuncture today (I have gone routinely throughout the last 3 years and she is AWESOME) anyways.... She did several rounds of different spots and she says to me "I don't want to dissapoint you...but I'm not feeling it" and I looked at her and said "me neither" and we laughed. She did all the preventative, maintanance, and stuff like that. We both thought nothing would happen before Sunday at the eariliest. (and she is thinking later) I have another appointment on Monday

Then Gail and I met Kyle for our last ultrasound. We went for the last ultrasound today. The amniotic fluid is right in the middle of normal, the babies heart rates were great, all their little parts are functioning as should be. The girls are both head down. They measure right on the estimated due date...Estimated weights: baby A: 7lb 4oz and baby B: 7lbs z - so much for all those premie clothes that MIL bought Lol

I know it's only an estimate but dang it feel soooo good.

I'm feeling very at peace right now. Last night I achieved "comfort" with Gail. Which was something i was kinda waiting on. We had the email relationship...but having someone live in your house is a different kind of thing. So that feels really good.

I know the girls will comes when they are ready. I figure this could be my last pregnancy (hopefully not though). I am going to try and enjoy every last stop of this journey!

Please remind me of all this patience if I go to 42 weeks.... :roll: Wink

Kyle was invited to a private dinner by one of the reps at work. (as in the restraunt will only be open to us) It's only 6 people, it's on Sunday night and we are going!!!! It's so cool - it feels like it's a big date. I figure I'll either be having the girls or a "to die for" dinner - how can I loose??? too fun!

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Wow! Part two! How cool is that?

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It must be such a comfort to have the midwife there with you at home even if you have to wait another 1/2 week or longer for the arrival of your babies. I'm impressed; you have over 14 pounds of babies in you.

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Glad the us went well, I hope your good feelings were right on. It is nice that you are so at peace at this stage I think that is so important in the end. Everyone thought I was crazy when I was like that even at a week overdue, but I really think it helped me be relaxed for the birth. Keep up the positive attitude.

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Wow Erika, part two! I too want to thank you for letting us "share" in this experience with you. I love the title- I teared up just reading "Entering the birth circle" How Amazing- I am so thrilled for you, and impressed with what you have accomplished.

Kasey

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Erika,

We all love you and are cheering you on toward your natural birth with your wonderful twins. Big baby kiss from Tommy, and Lots of LOVE from TEXAS!! May you find the peace that you need for this birth, and feel the love we are poring out to you as you poor out your love through your labor to birth your babies.

-Lydia

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Erika, I just find you so inspiring! You are just doing so great, those are fabulous weights for the girls! I am cheering you on every step of the way!

:kaos3: Keep baking those girlies Erika! :kaos3:

Congrats on 'part two'

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I've been mainly lurking but I just have to say, GO ERIKA! 14lbs of baby! You are the woman! You've done such a great job cooking those babies! And your patience with the whole process is amazing Smile

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Wow, 14 pds of baby! That is incredible! Great job on making very healthy twins!

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Erika, you are an inspiration. What a wonderful, positive attitude you have. I am completely in awe of you.

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You have done such an amazing job growing those girls...and to still be looking so great and be so active. WOW!

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You are a strong woman and a great example for all of us!! So amazing to think you have 2 full term 7 lb babies ready to meet you Smile I look forward to being here for you as you start a new chapter in your life.

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Congrats on a great U/S, I'm so glad you are comfortable with Gail now, it's so needed for you to birth peacefully!

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Good work Erika! The dinner sounds absolutely delightful! I am glad to hear everything is working out with Gail.

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YAY! Part two! Erika...you must feel how excited we all are for you! This is the first board I check in the morning and the last before bed. It's so very real to me that you could have these babies (BIG twins too!) any day now.

Hugs!

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Wow! I'm so impressed you are carrying those two little ones this long. They are going to be such beautiful healthy baby girls. Best wishes for a wonderful inspiring birth!

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ive been following your story as well and i know i dont belong here but i just wanted to say congratulations and i cant wait to continue reading your journey!

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Part 2!!! I'm not surprised! You're an inspiration, Erika. Those babies have no idea what kind of welcome they're in for!!

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Sounds like you are doing great! I'm glad you've developed a good 'RL' relationship with Gail - it's always a bit different in person, and I think it's so important that you feel comfortable with everyone involved in your birth. I remember so much of your struggles in finding the right person, and how COOL is it that you've come to this moment where everything is in place?! It really gives me faith in how the universe works....

I think it's great that you have fun dinner plans for this weekend - I totally agree with your philosophy of continuing life throughout pregnancy (and parenthood, for that matter). It can be really helpful to have something to look forward to. In fact, I think you've inspired me to make plans for this weekend... hmmm... Thanks!

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Hello, Erika, how are you? What's up? How are you feeling?

My midwife, Jenny (who was a student when Ridley was born), is visiting me, so both you and I have our midwives living with us at the moment. She is here with me now checking on your lodge!

Hugs to you.

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Just checking in: nothing really happening. I feel like a sitting duck Smile (or should I say orangutan! My girlfriend is going for a VBAC and she just email that her water broke. She risked out of a MW attended birth due to GD and the ONLY turely VBAC friendly doc is an hour North. and as fate wold have it this doc's partners are jerks about VBAC (they don't want to be bothered in the middle of the night, the weekend or any holidays to have to sit at the hospital for an entire labor). Anywyas, her VBAC friendly OB left on vacation yesterday - so I worry for her. But she has a lot of fight in her. She is our ICAN president so I know she is well informed and has plenty of guts to stand up to the others. Keep her in her thoughts. I hope labor kicks in soon for her!

We chuckled that we could have our babies the same day (we have the same due date) 2 other ladies one a twin mom and another fellow homebirther both members of ICAN had their babies within 2 hours of each other 8 weeks ago - What are the odds itcould happen twice?

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Eeesh - sending her lots of good vibes. I know she'll have rehearsed saying "no thank you" and "I do not give consent for that" over and over again already!

Thinking of you hon.
xo Robin

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I'm hoping for you both! Purely selfish but I'd love to see those two little darlings so you know I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for you! lol
I just hope upon hope that everything goes well for her. I was adamant with my OB that if I were to get a section that SHE had to be the one to do it or I'd walk.. so she agreed to be available for me, Lol I think when a doc sees just how really serious you are they cave.
Keeping my fingers crossed! Good luck.

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You are doing such a great job!! I'm glad you have really clicked with Gail - I bet that puts you mentally in a much better place to get ready....

I bet you will not need those preemie clothes at all Smile

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Hope all goes well for your friend! KUP- you know we check your lodge 457 times a day anyway, so this will jsut give us something! Smile

Kasey

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Wow Erika - welcome to your 2nd lodge! The girls sound like they are doing wonderfully in there. I am so happy I now have time again to be online so that I can celebrate this stage of your journey with you.

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I hope your friend gets her VBAC without too much trouble. I had the world's most unfriendly OB on call when I had my VBAC. I wanted to jump up on my bed and yell "HA" at him when I did it and did it well. Smile

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She's starting to get contractions/surges (whichever you prefer)

On that topic. the word contractions doesn't really bother me - of course in my house we call them "zerbra" Kyle decided one night a few weeks ago he was going to name my pains....... Did I tell you guys this??? I don't think I have. Kyle was asking me a hundred and one questions every time I had a contraction or BH or any kind of pain. i would get frustrated having to "explain" while tryign to work through things or slow down so one night int he car he decided to name things.

Zebra: means a contraction and voice inflection can influence how "zerbra" or it could be a "zebra, zebra" I think you get the idea

Skunk: mean a BH

Kangaroo: is a "baby induced pain" feet in the ribs, head grinds, rolls back and forth - whatever

Cougar: is "cooter pain" like the wonderful pubic symphasis pain.

and of course you can combine them and have a Kangaroo zebra ( a baby induced contraction) or a "cougar zebra" ect ect.

I said to him that night..."what the heck is with all the weird animals?" and he said right away - "well, you won;t let me name the babies" so I just shut up - but really it's been helpful. I don;t ahve to give him much info to get the point accross and he feels like he has a good idea of what is going on!

on another note (if this is even fathomable) The girls have dropped. I went to the bathroom and noticed how different I was looking all of a sudden. I showed Gail and she agreed - I'll ahve to get some pics. The girls have also been moving a whole lot tonight and I've been getting more "zebras" :woohoo: they are warming up!

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Woohoooo! The wolves are howling! Here come those girls!

Can't wait to hear all the news and good luck!

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Ooohhhh...... Exciting!!!!

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WooHoo! LEts go Zebras! Smile

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ZE-BRA! ZE-BRA! ZE-BRA! Sorry, hope they're not too painful, I'm just so excited!

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Hi Erika, just have been lurking and popped over to see if you had your babies yet!!

Good job mama, I can't wait to see them in pics!!

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Oh, you are probably really close. I was out about 8 hrs before I went into labor and my friend Debbie said "your belly looks different today." I did not really feel her drop, but looking at a photo snapped that day, she had definitely dropped. I was in full-blown labor and things went so quickly....hope the same happens for you.

ELV!!!!

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Yea for zebras!!!

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Well, It's 6:30am here and I can't lay in bed anymore. I've had "zebras" on and off all night and slept crummp - but nothing regular enough to get excited about. I'm guessing things will hang low or fizzle during the day (that's how I was with Olivia) and then pick back up in the night. I think I'm a nightitme labor kinda gal. But since the tile setters totally made a mess of our second floor (they re-grouted three bathroom and the laundry room - which means they had RIP out all the old grout) I have a lot to do to day to re-make my "nest" My bath is the worst of all and I feel like they invaded my birthing space. They dripped grout and junk and it looks like a dust cloud exploded in the bathroom. They also had dirty feet and left skid marks all down the carpet in the hall. So I should get my fill of hands and knees today adn then we can move these babies along tomorrow night. Also my original MW who birthed Olivia comes back from Tuscon this afternoon - so all the spirits for attendance will be in place. I've had the dates of the 7th and 9th in my head for weeks. Kyle's Dad's b-day is the 11th - but I'm not sure on that.

Also....I had a 45 minutes conversation with Kyle's mom yesterday and feel really good about that. She kinda hinted and I brought it up and decided to air things out. I think she's OK. It's not what she would choose - but she acknowledged that she wasn't asking questions b/c she didn;t really want to know. and I told her Kyle and I promised to never lie....but didn;t want them to worry for weeks with a "maybe" I explained all the different types of twinning and why it's not drastically different than birthing Olivia at home (given you have the right eyes and ears). Part of the problem is friends of our at home carried natural triplets. One was a set of Mono/mono twins with TTTS and then a third baby and she DID have a TON problems. It's a different ballgame in that senario. We also discussed nutrition and how OB's don;t see twin natural twin births and have really no idea what to do with someone like me - except offer and impose a medicalized birth. She does understand - she jsut sees the hospital as "safer" and "without the risk" Whereas I know ANYWHERE and ANYTHING has risks and that I can do better where I feel most calm. It went real well. There were chuckles and laughes - so I know she is OK and I think it made Kyle feel good too. Kyle's sister found out (she's the brand new L&D RN who knows nothing but medicalized birth and has a major clinical anxiety dissorder). I guess his aprent weren't going to tell her - but she asked a point blank question and his Mom did. She angry and uspet and all in tears and hyperventilating (Totally typical). But I give his mom credit. Instead of pouring a glass of wine and saying "yeah...i know" She told her something to the effect of " Well Heather...you know you only see one side of birth and it tends to be for the worse. There are other perspectives out there...maybe you need to step back and take a look at those as well." I can't ask for more....... I knew they wouldn;t jump up and down - but I'm glad to know his parents aren't in tears and having migraines.

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Sorry about your birthing space! I hope you get it back together before the babies arrive.

How exciting about the "zebras" though!

" Well Heather...you know you only see one side of birth and it tends to be for the worse. There are other perspectives out there...maybe you need to step back and take a look at those as well."

This is a really good way of looking at things. How nice that your MIL got to work out her feelings before the birth! I bet it feels much better to have it aired out.

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May a herd of wild zebras descend on you in just the right way! I think you're onto something about the time of day that each of us has for birthing. Mine was early morning both times, and you've been very awake and contractiony at a consistent time of day.

I want to say how MAJORLY impressed I am with your MIL. Good for her for rising to the occasion and trying to be open-minded or at least accepting of what is not her place to judge. Now I'm glad that Kyle told her because clearly the time she had to mull over that information served a good purpose. Perhpas Heather will see that there is room on the birthing spectrum for natural, out of hospital birth too.

Hmmm, maybe the re-grouting could be tabled because there's another priority for that area. Wink

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Just wanted to say Congratulations! I think you are doing a wonderful and beautiful thing. Wishing you many easy labor vibes.

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That's really good to hear about your MIL. That is such a long way. It's hard for a lot of people to come to even that point of reason.

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ATG for clearing the air with your MIL. I'm impressed with her attitude about this - it's not always easy to respect choices that you wouldn't make, especially when it's about your grandchildren! I love how she approached your SIL... I hope this will help your SIL down the line when she encounters natural mamas in L&D!

I'm sorry about the "invasion".. I had plumbers over yesterday myself and they made such a mess! It even smells funny in there :-? Hope you can enlist some help to get your space back.

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hi erika, i hope the zebras hold off until the birthing space is all clean again. how is miss olivia doing, is she sensing the buildup?? when i was in early labor with my son, my daughter(she was 3) totally sensed the anticipation and excitement. she actually got real quiet and to herself, which really helped. me and my husband have always said she was very maternal right from the get go. when i was in labor with lucy, she did the same thing(this time she was almost 10) and when we were getting ready to go to the hosp. she was real to herself, stayed out of everyones way to the point, i didn't know where she was. i had my husband go and start the truck and she was in the truck all ready to go. my son on the other hand couldn't stop bouncing and getting under my feet.

i'm so glad you talked to your MIL, it's like all issues are resolved, maybe not perfect, but resolved. all the things that were bothering you, are no longer. now get that birthing area all set (AGAIN) and bring on the zebras!!!!! always in my thoughts, colleen Biggrin

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My zebras (hehehe) have kinda fizzled out...But I kinda knew they would during the day. I have kept real busy running errands and cleaning up - so maybe things will pick back up later. We're going to do a prenatal later. I think Gail really wants to check me - but I'm not feeling it. I don't want to ponder where I'm really at. On the other hand my other MW has a 2 hr drive and If I'm walking around at a 5 or something - It might be good to know if things jump start in the middle of the night. I wasn't checked at all with Oliva and I really liked that - but my MW was 5 minutes away....so at the same time it's a different circumstance. not sure what I want to do yet- I know Kyle is very curious.... Thoughts??

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You sound great!

Personally, I liked being checked. Please don't throw rotten tomatoes at me. I know I'm not supposed to want that. I liked knowing because it gave me a situational report even though I was very level-headed that it couldn't tell me when labor would start.

And if anyone asked "what the midwife says," I'd say, "she says I'm healthy." "But I mean about when you'll have the baby," they'd say. "No, she doesn't say anything about that. Nobody knows except maybe God," I'd reply.

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Hmmm, I had internals with my first labour and it frustrated me so I declined every internal for my daughter's pregnancy. I really liked it that way.

But, in your position, you're right. It might be better to know if you're going to move quickly. I have a good friend who didn't experience any BH or contractions of any sort with her 2nd pg, her MW checked her finally at 41 weeks to find her 8cm. Her baby was born 1.5 hours later. LOL!

How did you labour with Olivia? Was it long?

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you know you only see one side of birth and it tends to be for the worse. There are other perspectives out there...maybe you need to step back and take a look at those as well."

:party: Whoo hoooo! Yay MIL!!!! I'm grinning like a madwoman over here. Wink

I don't like checks. It didn't help me... the only one I ever asked for was one after I had a 1/2 day of prodomal, I was curious and keen. I guess taht's what I think. If you're keen to know, then ask! Smile

Thinking of you!
xo R.

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