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Another July Mommy! Can you believe we are so close? Look forward to sharing these last weeks of pregnancy with you!

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Welcome to your lodge!!

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Welcome to your lodge Jenny!!

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I get a lodge! Wahoo! How exciting.

I will work on an introduction tomorrow, but in the meantime, I have a concern/question to throw out to you ladies.

The hospital where I'm delivering does intermittent monitoring but to them this means putting me on an EFM for 15 minutes of every hour. I have not gone through labor before, but I can only imagine that it will be very annoying to get hooked up to a monitor every 45 minutes. They will use the doppler when I am in the jacuzzi but only when I'm in the jacuzzi.

So, I have the choice, as you all know, to tell them no to the EFM and only allow the doppler. Of course, they will pitch a fit and say all sorts of things to change my mind (just wait til I tell you about the NST story from this week Lol so I need to make sure I have grounds for this. The doc pointed out that the doppler only shows a moment in time while the EFM will show her heart rate in conjunction with contractions. I do find it odd that they think it is good enough when I'm in the tub though. I'm not sure where to look for a study or stats that support the thought of doing doppler only because I haven't seen anything that was against EFM for 15 minutes at a time. Any advice/help would be appreciated. Or am I imagining it will be more intrusive than it really will be? Thanks in advance.

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Welcome to your lodge fellow July mama Smile

There have been plenty of studies that have shown that continuous or even intermittent (like you describe) fetal monitoring in labor does not improve outcomes, and in many cases can lead to unnecessary interventions. Relying on a machine to monitor the well-being of mom and baby takes the human factor out of the equation, and the monitoring is only as good as the machine - in other words, machines routinely go on the fritz or do not read accurately, which can lead to interventions that may not be needed. It is believed by many (though not so much in the medical field) that periodic listening to fetal heart tones via doppler is sufficient and the least invasive form of monitoring.

Here are some articles: http://www.childbirth.org/articles/efm.html

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Welcome to your lodge!!! As for your question, my midwives only use the doppler. Good luck with your decision. I can't wait to read your intro.

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They did intermittent monitoring for me, I think it was 20 min of every hour at the hospital. I was monitored the first 20min and then walked the halls. I took my sweet time walking the halls before coming back to my room. I was monitored while in different positions...on the birthing ball, in the rocking chair, even on all fours, so you don't necessarily have to be in the bed to be monitored. It didn't seem like too much to me, and my nurse was great and I don't think she even kept it on the whole 20min each time, just long enough to get a good measurement and then let me go about my business ;).

I'm sure the doppler would be just fine, but if you want to pick your battles (so to speak) the intermittent monitoring wasn't so intrusive in my experience. Maybe you can just spend loads of time in the jacuzzi tub?

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welcome to your lodge! looking forward to meeting you lil one in the next few wks and taking this journey with you.

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Introduction - wow, this is long..

Hello ladies. I’m Jenny and I’m 33 preparing to have my first baby. It is a girl and her name is Catherine, but we will be calling her Catie for short. I have been married for a year in May to a wonderful named Michael, who is 41. You can say we had a whirl wind romance. Basically, I picked him up in a bar, 6 months later we were living together and a year after that we were married. He is truly the most wonderful person I have ever met, and I cannot believe my good fortune that he is now my husband. I’m truly a lucky lady.

If I were to tell you the whole story of how I got to this point it would take ten pages so I will just tell the highlights, which will take awhile. I grew up in Philadelphia and at 22 moved to Columbus, Ohio. Granville actually, which is about 30 miles outside. I was working in the oil & gas industry and met a man in Ohio and got married at 24. The relationship only lasted a couple of years. Not long after we got married, I started taking night classes. I told my parents I would go to college when I knew why I was going. Well, we were broke so somebody had to go to college. I was attending an adult-oriented business school at night but when we got separated, I decided I really wanted a degree from a top university. My Father went to the University of Virginia, and we were taught from birth that it is the greatest school in the world. Because of my advanced age () and straight A’s, I got in to UVA’s Commerce School and moved to Charlottesville, VA. I just loved it there, and the school was very hard but I got through it with flying colors. After school I got a job back in Philadelphia and came home at 30.

When I first moved to Ohio, I got a cat to keep me company. Then my ex-husband brought home a puppy one day; a coonhound. I had never heard of one before and soon after we got another dog to play with him because he was driving us nuts. They have a lot of energy. After my separation I decided I wanted another dog but knew I couldn’t handle another big one so I got a tan Chihuahua. This is how I ended up with 3 dogs and a cat. I had a couple who lived with me rent free while I was in school to help take care of them while I was at school sometimes for a day or two without being able to come home. It worked out quite well. When I met my husband Michael, he had two dogs. Now I live in a home with 4 big dogs, 1 little dog, and a cat. It is quite a brady bunch. Luckily he had females and I had male big dogs so there were no territorial issues. They all drink and eat out of the same bowls and get along famously.

We started trying to get pregnant right after we got married and succeeded after five months. I was about to start clomid on the next cycle but it just turned out my body needed some time to rebound from all of those years of birth control. In fact, we got married when we did because we wanted to start a family. We are getting a little advanced in age to put it off. My sister had wanted a home birth for both of her children. The first one required a hospital trip and an epidural. She had been in labor about 30 hours and the midwives insisted. She was just too tired. However, her second daughter was delivered right there in the living room. I always thought she was a little nuts for having a baby at home and figured I would ask for drugs at the first labor twinge. If it weren’t for her and then the ladies on the board, I don’t think I would ever have started to read about interventions and their related problems. I knew I really didn’t want a c-section because I heal horribly but as I read and learned, I realized there are a lot of things I don’t want including those drugs I thought I would be asking for. From where I was the day I got pregnant, it is a complete 180. It is kind of amazing how my sister and I are on this wavelength but my Mom still thinks c-sections are the best thing since sliced bread. She had three of them due to breech babies. She just does not quite get our point of view 

My husband and I have been taking private birth classes that are NB oriented. He has learned a lot, and I really think he is ready for this including dealing with nurses and doctors who don’t necessarily agree with our choices. I would like a home birth but Michael is just not comfortable with the idea so I agreed this time we will do it in the hospital. I’m hoping the next one can be at home but that might not be possible because I have GD and have a good chance of getting it again. This pregnancy was going along very well for the first two trimesters. I have struggled with pretty bad restless leg syndrome for a while but otherwise was unscathed. Then at 28 weeks, we got the GD positive diagnosis. I was really surprised because there is not history of it in my family, and while I’m a little pudgy, I’m not obese. I normally wear a size 10. I know there are a lot of risk factors but I was really surprised it happened to me. So, for 6 weeks I kept it under control with diet and exercise. I woke up at 2am and 5am to eat so that my body would never fast because the number was always too high if I did. After awhile, the hormones increased and even my diligent diet was no longer keeping my sugars in range. Since the midwives, who I switched to at about 21/22 weeks when I realized what kind of birth I wanted, cannot treat someone on diabetic medication, I was transferred to the OB practice they work with.

The first doctor we met with was great and I told him I did not want to start the NST until 37 weeks. He was fine with that. Last week I went to see another OB in the practice and he said we need to start tests. I said “slow down, what tests?” We then got into a debate about waiting to do the NST. He thought I was seriously demented. He said that the purpose of the NST was to make sure my baby won’t die between this appointment and the next. Yes, he pulled the dead baby card. I decided it was not a big enough deal to stress over, and I knew that she is just fine so I said he could do the NST if it will make him feel better. He asked why I would come for maternal care and not let them care for me. I was thinking in my head that I really didn’t want his darn care but instead just said nothing. Of course she passed the NST with flying colors.

I am nervous about having a hospital birth because I have never had a good experience with hospitals and doctors. I’ve had problems with my gallbladder for many years, but they could never figure out that is what the pain was from. It started when I was about 13. I had it taken out finally at 24, but the experience has left me uncomfortable with doctors, nurses, and hospitals. I have hired a wonderful, experienced doula who is a nurse herself as well as a researcher. I know between her and Michael they will help me run any interference necessary. I really do wish I was having my baby here. I will just wait to go to the hospital for as long as possible. I have been taking a hypnobabies home course to prepare for this birth. I have days where I feel really confident and days that I’m really scared. I had mentioned months ago that the pushing part was the part that scared me because I feel like I will be able to hack labor. Even though books and educators say it is easier than labor, it seems to me like it will really hurt!

On the job front, I quit my job at the beginning of May and am now a stay at home pregnant person waiting to be a SAHM. I worked really hard in school etc to get my degree at hit the work force and I have to say I hate working! I just hate it. I think I am much more cut out for being a wife and mother. You can see pics of the dogs, cat, Michael, me and my belly on my July space. Catie’s due date blinkie is linked to it. Thanks for reading ladies. I’m looking forward to spending these last few weeks with you all and leaning on you for support and advice.

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Love your intro, Jenny! It's nice to get to know you a little better Smile

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:woohoo: Jenny, you've got a birth lodge!! I am so excited for you. Loved your intro. I didn't know you lived in(okay, BY) Cowtown too!!! I went to OSU. I know you're nervous about the hospital birth, but you'll do just fine! I'm just so happy and excited for you!

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Even if they want to use the actual monitor, they don't have to strap it on. It can be held in place. You do not have to be in the bed, either. You can stand, sit in a rocker or on a birth ball, kneel on pillows, lean forward over the side of the bed, etc.

My mw only uses a doppler. She listens during and after contractions about every hour or so. She does it in whatever position is comfortable for me.

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What a lovely intro. I'm glad you're able to be a SAHM Smile The docs...sometimes I think they lump us all into a group of uninformed pregnant women. ((HUGS))

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Great intro! I can't believe fellow July mom's are getting lodges already, where has the time gone?

Cindy

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Great intro! I loved reading it & getting to know you a little better Smile

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Great intro!!! Welcome to your lodge!

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Thanks ladies!

I feel like I'm going to scream!! I think Catie is going through a growth spurt or something because I am so hungry today and can't eat any of the things I feel like would fill me up. Something with high carbs for example. I'm just sooooo hungry! I told Michael tonight that my labor mantra should be "I can have a cupcake when this is over!" Also, I feel so twitchy in my legs. I went up and took a hot shower to try to calm my muscles but it didn't really help that much. Ok, complaining over.

I had lunch today with my first stepmother (yes I said first), who I had not seen in about 9 years. We talk on the phone but have not gotten our schedules together until now. It was nice to see her. She is on the board of an LA hospital's transplant division and suggested that I ask my doctors about banking my own blood just in case I have any problems where I might need a transfusion. Sounds like a good idea to me. Unfortunately my blood would go to waste if I didn't use it due to the meds in my system. I sure am hoping I can get some sleep tonight.

On the monitoring, we have decided to play it by ear but feel confident that if they insist on strapping me to it, even though I can move around, and it is uncomfortable, we will tell them they need to only use the doppler or not put the straps on. I think if the nurse if very respectful of her timing and treats me with respect it won't be a big deal, but if she tries to strap on a monitor when I'm in the middle of a contraction etc., we will let them know that is not acceptable.

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Ugh on the twitchy legs! I've found that taking a calcium supplement has helped me a lot with that--especially if I take it an hour or so before going to bed.

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I think that if you are polite, they will respect or atleast try to accomodate your wishes. I am going to ask about the monitoring too. I had burns on my back from them last time with the girls. And since you are open to different ways of getting the people the data they need, I think they'll work with you.

Yeah, the kiddos are going through a spurt right about now. They are pretty much done developeing and just getting that extra layer of protective fat on them and practicing their breathing. I'm sure it makes you uncomfortable afterwards, but you're almost done sweetie! Hang in there.

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And another thing...there's no reason why you can't eat your cupcake while you're in labor. Wink I had a nice, dark chocolate bar during my last birth. Yummy!

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The first thing I ate after having Alexa was a mint oreo Blizzard from DQ. I hadn't had one since being diagnosed with GD (actually, I was eating one when they called to tell me I had failed :()and it sounded so good!

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ACK! July mommies are getting lodges, I'M NOT READY!!!!! *wah*

Welcome to your lodge and I can't wait to watch your progression. ITA with the other moms, if you can get away with just the basic monitoring to establish a baseline when you check in and then SPARSE monitoring, as needed, through the rest of the birth you'll most likely have less interventions and stress. The monitor was THE biggest stressor for me when I was birthing Callie - she kept swimming around and going off monitor, so the nurses would run in and FREAK every 5 minutes. It was so stressful I was terrified to move and that made the whole thing hurt a LOT more.

Less monitoring is always better, even with certain augmentation!

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Hooray on having your lodge! Time is flying!!!

As far as the monitoring, I was monitored with my first, which means I was in the bed more. I was monitored less with the girls, but still was hooked up for some part of the time. So your post has me wondering and I see my midwife today so I will ask what their latest stand is on that.

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Congratulations and welcome to your lodge!

"Winky_the_HouseElf" wrote:

Ugh on the twitchy legs! I've found that taking a calcium supplement has helped me a lot with that--especially if I take it an hour or so before going to bed.

I second that suggestion. I'm having awful twitchies and tinglings now due to some post-op complications common with my surgery, but low blood calcium levels are indeed the culprit.

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Welcome to your lodge! Great intro! I hope you're able to have a great birth at the hospital. It sounds like you're well prepared and you've got your DH and your doula to come to bat for your team.

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Yay Jenny...You got your lodge!!!! I hope that the nurses at the hospital accomadate your wants and needs. I cant wait to keep reading and watching the progress over these last few weeks.

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"Winky_the_HouseElf" wrote:

And another thing...there's no reason why you can't eat your cupcake while you're in labor. Wink I had a nice, dark chocolate bar during my last birth. Yummy!

I am worried that would spike Catie's blood sugar and then it would drop. I drink a glass of milk every night. My twichiness if from restless leg syndrome. So my legs kick out kind of involuntarily. I call it the demented frog Smile

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I am determined today to do something productive! I have to take my belly picture. I pretty much do it on Tuesdays now because technically I turn weeks on Tuesday even though my due date has it on Saturdays. I was charting my temps and I know I O'd a little later cause my cycles are 31 days not 28. I really need to get upstairs cleaned. I'm going to see if I can manage to get the vacuum up the stairs Smile It is suppose to be 98 with lots of humidity here today. I have the AC crancked while I will be working upstairs then I will turn it down a bit. I'm downstairs now on the computer and cold actually. We'll see how much I get done before my body gives out. Oh, I will be sure to take a picture of my ankles when I'm done. That is a momento I do not have yet Smile

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When you're done nesting at your house, come nest at mine, K? Look forward to that picture...

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hey Jenny, I asked my midwife about the monitoring yesterday. She said that I'll be monitored for twenty minutes after I'm admitted and then for 15 minutes every hour I'm in labor. It seems a bit much, but she said that's what they tend to do. I'm going to labor as long as I can at home so that I'm not really in the hospital long. I had Natalie within two hours of being admitted last time - hoping for something similar this time.

Can't wait to see the newest picture!

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HI Jenny! Just thought I would stop by and say welcome to your lodge!!

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"furbabymama" wrote:

I am worried that would spike Catie's blood sugar and then it would drop. I drink a glass of milk every night. My twichiness if from restless leg syndrome. So my legs kick out kind of involuntarily. I call it the demented frog Smile

Eh. I never worried about blood sugar stuff. I ate other things too (like a banana). I have restless legs also and that's what the calcium is helping. I know what you mean about the demented frog. It's quite annoying! I found that I had to go to a supplement in order for the calcium to help. I use coral calcium (check to make sure it has magnesium and vitamin D). Biggrin

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"Winky_the_HouseElf" wrote:

Eh. I never worried about blood sugar stuff. I ate other things too (like a banana). I have restless legs also and that's what the calcium is helping. I know what you mean about the demented frog. It's quite annoying! I found that I had to go to a supplement in order for the calcium to help. I use coral calcium (check to make sure it has magnesium and vitamin D). Biggrin

I have Gestational Diabetes so unfortunately I always have to worry about blood sugar stuff Smile I can't tell you how much I wish I was in your situation sometimes. Having your baby at home and having really mastered hypnobabies. I don't feel like I have been spending enough time with the program lately and the hospital setting is not very conducive to relaxation.

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Here is my 36 week belly Smile

Yesterday I kicked butt and cleaned the whole upstairs. I probably cleaned for like 4 or 5 hours and my feet didn't really swell because I was in the cool AC. It was wonderful to get so much done. Then I had a really hard time sleeping and had doc appointments today. First I went to the chiro, which was great, then I went to the OB. That was not so fun. I posted a whole thread about it. From now on my DH is going to the OB appointments with me. I can't fight another time alone. He has training all this week but will be able to join me from now on.

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Beautiful belly! You look great!

Now I'll have to check out your other post....

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"furbabymama" wrote:

I have Gestational Diabetes so unfortunately I always have to worry about blood sugar stuff Smile I can't tell you how much I wish I was in your situation sometimes. Having your baby at home and having really mastered hypnobabies. I don't feel like I have been spending enough time with the program lately and the hospital setting is not very conducive to relaxation.

Bummer on the GD. :confused: I hope your birth goes well! Practicing your Hypnobabies will help so much. Smile

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I am envious of your energy!!! Whew! I WANT to clean my house top to bottom too! I'm working on laundry and the kitchen right now. Keep practicing your Hypnobabies Biggrin I'm doing Hypnobabies too. I think every bit you practice will help you to relax even in a hospital!

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Your belly is SOOO cute!:bigarmhug:

I'm envious too! I want to CLEAN my whole house but half the time I'm too tired!:eek:

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You look beautiful! I'm glad you got so much done!

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Jenny...slow down on the cleaning...youre making the rest of us look bad. hahahaha Im just playing. You look fabulous and Im so glad you dont have to go thru another one of those appts alone. Makes you wonder how qualified some people are at their jobs huh?

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Beautiful belly! I'm so sorry about your OB appt. I hope the next one goes better. Glad you are nesting, hopefully it won't be long! Biggrin

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My DH is in training all week and won't be back until about 10pm tonight. So I met a friend for lunch and then went to my step sister's to just hang out. I'm trying to distract myself today because I just keep thinking about this induction issue. I can't seem to stop obsessing about these doctors and my fear of having my baby under their care. I put in a call to the midwives to ask for their advice. The head midwife will call me back tomorrow. I am hoping to get her advice on how to deal with these folks since she has been working with them for 10 years.

I only cleaned one floor ladies and it was the easy floor where there are no pets allowed so don't be too impressed :). I have so much to do downstairs. Heck, I can't keep that clean for more than a day at a time :).

I have been getting some braxton hicks on a pretty regular basis. I wish I would lose my mucus plug so at least I would know it would only be another couple of weeks or so. I wonder if believing that I will go late will become a self fulfilling prophecy. I just don't want to tell myself I will go a little early and be disappointed. Maybe I should start believing anyway.

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What a beautiful belly! And wtg on the cleaning too!

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Jenny, I love your belly pic. It looks like you've dropped some too!!! And way to go getting so much done. I'm TRYING to be that accomplished, but yeah...not happenin' so far. Wink

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what a perfect round belly, love it!

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Aww, what a beautiful baby belly!

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You have a perfect belly! Positive thoughts on having your LO early can't hurt, can you put that into your Hypnobabies where you picture your perfect birth? I have the time of day in mine.

Cindy

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