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KarlysKbug's (Karly) Birth Lodge

This is a bit early but since Kailey came early I figured it would be all right.

Congratulations on your lodge and the upcoming birth of your son!

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Yeah for your lodge hun!!! I cant wait to follow your journey as you look forward to the birth of your son!

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Yay! The first August lodge! Congrats Smile

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Oh my goodness!!! an August Lodge!!!!!!! Congrats!

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Yay! An August lodge! Can you believe it's here already?

Welcome to your lodge, Karly. Looking forward to following your little guy's birth story.

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Holy cow!! :eek: This is so wild! One of our August mama's with a lodge already!! Congrats Karly, and I'm so excited to be able to follow your journey! Biggrin

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Welcome to your lodge Karly, I'm so excited to see the first August lodge show up!!!

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welcome to your lodge! can't wait for the intro. Wink

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Seriously!?!?! It is time for your lodge? Not possible, is it??? Really.

Congrats mama! I'm so happy for you and your family. I'm eager to share this journey with you!

PS-- I may be in MI in early August....what exactly is your due date?

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Wow, August lodges already! Time sure flies when you're having fun!!! Congrats and welcome!

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Oh - I wanted to start your lodge...I have been stalking your ticker for months!

Yeah I cannot wait to follow your journey. I will bet the farm that this one does not make an appearance until after your due date.

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Sorry Liz, I guess I beat you to it. That is one reason I started it early.

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Ohhhh I am so bummed! LOL I wanted to start your lodge sooo badly, I've been watching your ticker like a mad woman lol

Welcome to your lodge my dear friend! I am so SO excited for you! I can't wait to follow your journey & to see what this cute little guy looks like!!

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Welcome to your lodge!!

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Ok, I am teary now...I am blaming the hormones, but you ladies really are so incredibly sweet!

I gave birth to Kailey at 37w5d, but I am wondering if this guy will be later. With Kailey, I was in the mindset that I would go past my EDD, so I am trying to keep in that frame of mind this time too...so you guys may be sick of me by that point, LOL!

For those who don't know me and didn't follow my lodge with Kailey, here's a quick intro...

I am Karly, mama to my beautiful DD Kailey, born last March and adoring wife to my best friend and DH. I just turned 31 and my DH is about to be 37 at the end of July. He is rooting for this little guy to come on his birthday (7/30). This pregnancy has been very easy, as was my first, and time has flown by. This is probably our last child (as we both have always had "two" as our number), so I have been savoring the experience. It really is an amazing thing, to see your body grow and nourish a human life.

I started my pregnancy with Kailey, thinking that "of course" I would have an epidural..."everyone gets one and it makes it easier if you end up needing a c/s." And this was on top of having a mom who gave birth naturally for both of her children. She was the one who put the bug in my ear that childbirth wasn't a horror of pain and an epidural wasn't a prerequisite. Luckily, I also stumbled my way over to this board and soaked up all the knowledge from the supportive community here. My birth guides were Ina May and Henci Goer and I still recommend Henci every time I get the chance.

My first birth was at a hospital birth center and was honestly a great experience. I was lucky that they are very supportive of women having the birth experience they wish. However, this time I found myself wanting "more." I really admired the homebirth stories that have been shared on this board. The hospital stay after DD was born was a terrible experience (although luckily very short) and I couldn't give up the image of catching my baby, peacefully in my own home. I kept going back to Audra's homebirth with Miles...the gorgeous images of her laboring in the pool and seeing her girls greet Miles so lovingly wouldn't leave my mind. So, around 18 weeks, I took the plunge and emailed my MW. She thoroughly answered all my questions and invited me to meet with her to ask any others I might have. Long story short, we met with her and DH had his concerns put to rest. I had my anatomical u/s at 20 weeks and seeing the perfect little boy in there, I had complete peace with our decision to homebirth. I discontinued care with my OB (I was going to have dual care) and started preparing for a homebirth with our MW.

Whew, long intro, but that pretty much catches things up. I will post Kailey's birth story in the next post. I have a home visit with my MW on Wednesday and she is bringing the birth pool. Yahoo Otherwise, things are nice and boring with the pregnancy. My pelvis is bothering me more this time, but besides that, I feel very good...not even any swelling yet! (*knocking on wood*)

If you made it this far, thanks for reading!

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Kailey's birth story from my last lodge:

Kailey Alexis, born at 7:11 am, weighing 6 pounds, 5 ounces and 19 inches long

I felt great up until the end...no signs of impending labor (no mucus plug loss, etc). I was tired on Saturday (3/10) and told my DH that I was ready for her to be out. He laughed and told her that she had over stayed her welcome and should come and say hello. I guess she listened to her daddy. I had strong BH contractions for my whole pregnancy (since about 16 weeks). Toward the end was the only time they became uncomfortable, as they pushed her into my bladder. My last few weeks were filled with night time trips to the bathroom. So at 3 am on Sunday, March 11th, I felt a slightly stronger twinge and a small gush. I knew I had just been up to the bathroom not too long ago, so I should get up and check it out. When I moved, I got a much bigger gush, LOL! I dribbled my way to the bathroom and called to my DH that my water had broke. He sat up in bed and said "is it time to go?!" I laughed at him and told him that I hadn't even had contractions yet, so we had some time. I had just started maternity leave on Friday, and planned on having at least the next week to get things in order, so I had to pack clothes for the hospital, etc. We called my mom and told her my water had broke and she said I should lay down and try and get some rest. Instead, I packed some things and started to fold a load of laundry. However, my contractions started about 15 minutes later. They got painful pretty quickly and I decided I should try to take a shower...which didn't help! They had told us that the guideline for a FTM, was 5 minutes apart, lasting for more than a minute. Mine were 3 minutes apart, lasting for 30 seconds, but they seemed strong, no peaks/valleys. We decided to call the OB. I had actually met the last OB in the group at my appt on Friday and she was the one on call. She asked me how much I was dilated at my appt. I told her she didn't check since I wasn't 38 weeks yet, but that she said her head was super low. She could tell I was starting to freak out and said we could come in whenever I was ready. We called my mom and we were on the way.

At this point, I was starting to panic. I had no reference point for how "strong" the contractions were, but I was barely able to deal with them. The car ride was the longest of my life. I sat in the back seat and DH had the radio on and I was trying to sing through the contractions to relax and take my mind off the pain, but it wasn't working. DH said it was funny and he wishes he could remember what I was singing. We made it to the birth center around 5:45 am and my mom was waiting for us. Thankfully, they had just taken another woman up to the 3rd floor and the tech was coming back with a wheel chair, because I couldn't walk through the contractions. We went up to get checked in and there was a lady in front of me being admitted. Her labor looked like she had a slight headache and I wasn't very nice, cursing her in my head! Things finally got in order and I was checked in (which was good because there were about 10 people in the waiting room and I felt like I was the nightly entertainment). They put me into a room and I kept demanding to be checked. My mom and DH had to strip me and get me into a gown, as I kept saying that if I was only a "2" then I needed an epidural. Well they checked me and were shocked to find that I was fully dilated and ready to push...Hello, I was telling you!

They got me to a room right away and the OB came in. She was great and everyone was super supportive when my mom told them I wanted a natural birth (no time for the birth plan, so good thing mom and DH were prepared). I refused to lay down on the bed and they put the monitors on me while I was standing. They got me a squat bar and I was helped into position. The OB helped me feel how I was supposed to be pushing. This was about 6 am and she told me I would have a baby in about an hour. I can't say that I really felt any urge to push, but the contractions were really painful and there was a ton of pressure. I was glad that people were helping to coach me in pushing, but I stopped and started whenever I felt like it. I wasn't comfortable holding my breath for the 10 count and just did what felt right. They also tried to suggest other positions (in a supportive way), but I stood my ground and kept with the bar (as opposed to laying back on the bed). I kept thinking I wasn't pushing well and everyone was laughing because I kept saying that I didn't know why on earth women have more than one child. An hour seemed like forever, so I have so much respect for those women who push for several hours. I was getting discouraged, so the OB said to reach down and feel her head, as she was so close to being out. I felt and said "Are you sure that is her head? I can't feel any hair." It felt like a squished beach ball...they were laughing at me again. They asked DH if he wanted to feel the head and I was feeling evil, so I said he should feel it (he is squeamish). They asked if he needed a glove and my mom felt sorry for him and said he did need a glove. He felt the head and agreed that it felt like a squashed beach ball, LOL.

The OB was really great and did a lot of massage. When she was coming out, I felt most of the pain up higher and worried that I was tearing in the front, but by that point I needed her out at any cost. My mom was standing down at the end of the bed with DH just behind her. Kailey was facing toward the right and you should have seen mom my jump as she was sprayed with amniotic fluid! Good thing she didn't care, DH might have been done! She slid right out after crowning and they put her up on my stomach. DH hadn't been sure about cutting the cord, but they didn't give him a choice and he did great. So she was born at 7:11 am, weighing 6 pds, 5 oz and 19 inches long. Only a little over 4 hours of labor!

Anyway, my daughter is beautiful and is the best baby. She eats, sleeps and poops like a champ. We did, however, get some very unexpected news and were told that she has Down Syndrome. We are very blessed that she has no heart or digestive problems (as this is the first concern for babies with Down Syndrome). She has great muscle tone, kicking around, making expressive faces and has a good suck reflex. So although, the diagnosis is never one any parent wants to hear, we can never feel bad for long, as all we have to do is look at her and be reminded of what a gift she is and how much we love her.

And an entry from my blog which addresses the questions most people seem to ask about our life:

...if you actually read my crazy, long birth story, then you know my daughter has Down Syndrome. And yes, my blog title is somewhat a play on people's perception of my life. It truly is normal (and often mundane), but it is our happy normal and perhaps an atypical normal. My blog is not about Down Syndrome, but since it is part of our life, it will be mentioned. It's ok to be curious and I am happy to answer all honestly asked questions. I didn't know a whole lot about Down Syndrome either. Here are some questions/comments people often have:

  • Did you have prenatal testing? No, we didn't. I was 29 and DH was 35, so we didn't have age factors and have no family history of issues. We had an anatomical ultrasound at 20 weeks and everything was perfect. Well, were a little surprised she wasn't actually a boy, but that's a whole different story!
  • You sounded so positive, sharing your birth story, announcement, etc. Well, I had a gorgeous daughter. I won't sugar coat it. The day of her birth was the happiest day of my life and also my darkest. The very foundation of your life, marriage and future gets quite an unexpected jolt. The unknown is hard. No one can tell you what Down Syndrome will mean for your child and you don't even get a chance to bond before you are handed the news. That being said, things sort of splintered for me. The Down Syndrome would be dealt with in pieces and chunks over the next months and getting to know my daughter was a separate issue. There was no way I could look into those beautiful blue eyes and feel sorry for one minute. She was perfect. Period.
  • Special people get special babies. I am sure this is the case for many wonderful parents, but I can assure you, we are just average people here! And my baby is special and wonderful...just as every baby is. Trust me that I am no different than any other mother, who loves her child. It's not any harder at all to love her and you would do the same in my position.
  • Do you worry about her future? Honestly, of course. But no more than I will worry about the future of any of my children. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Nothing. I think I am very blessed to have learned this lesson now, because I truly am thankful for every day. People of all ages get sick, have car accidents, etc. Your life can change in an instant. I have been lucky to have some good guides in this new territory. People with beautiful children have shared their lives and their stories with me. Down Syndrome is something my daughter has...like blue eyes, brown hair and her daddy's endless smile...they are all just a small piece to the puzzle. She will learn. She will be happy. She will live a life with meaning. She will have struggles and she will have triumphs. She is loved.
  • Doesn't Down Syndrome mean health issues? It can. Many couples learn about the possibility of Down Syndrome while pregnant because issues like heart problems often show up on ultrasound and can be "soft markers" for Down Syndrome. We are very blessed that Kailey is very healthy. She has no heart problems (found in about 50% of children). We were worried about her hearing in the beginning, but visits to the audiologist confirmed she is fine. She has smaller ears and ear canals which can lead to problems with fluid and ear infections. We have been lucky not to have any problems so far, but if she has issues we will just have tubes placed. She will need glasses in a year or two, but this is most likely due to the fact that mom and dad both have worn glasses. Otherwise, she is smaller than typical kids, but otherwise perfect.
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Wow Karly, I learned so much about you that you never shared on the August 08 board. I love your attitude about Down's Syndrome. I'm a physical therapist and I daily see the great potential these children and adults have. I hope everything goes great for your home birth. 4 hours is a very fast first labor!!

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Yey for your lodge Karly! I'll definitly be following! I hope you'll include some Kailey cuteness Wink

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"boilermaker" wrote:

PS-- I may be in MI in early August....what exactly is your due date?

8/9...should we take bets on when I will actually give birth? What day are you coming? I am going to bet on that day! Wink

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Oh Karly. I have read your birth story before, and I am a regular at your blog............yet you still make me cry.

Your grace, your frankness, your wisdom.......I love reading about you and your wonderful perfect made for you babies and pregnancies.

*thank you*

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I enjoyed reading Kailey's birth story. I do hope you will post some pictures!

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Karly, what a beautiful birth story, and your candid and personal response to Kailey having Downs. Thank you so much for sharing!

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I love reading your posts. I can't wait to hear the birth story for your little boy.

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Ahh! You're getting so close Karly! I'll be stalking you over here now.

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Count me in on the stalkers!! Yay for getting close!

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I can't believe an Aug. lodge! How exciting and congrats! I loved reading your birth story with Kailey! Biggrin

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Thanks for sharing her birth story and your blog entry. I am so curious to see what your next labour is like, given that your first was so fast and furious!

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You have lots of stalkers! I cant wait to hear about your homebirth! Thanks for sharing your birth story! I had read it way back, but it was fun reading it again. Good luck!!

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Awww-- I feel so special to be mentioned. Glad that my HB inspired another. It truly was transformational for our entire family...

I'll be there in MI the first week of August. I think the 4-6th (I need to be home before the 7th, bc that is Taya's 5th birthday...) I'll let you know as dates get closer....but hopefully you'll have a newborn. Though I'd love to see you!

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So tell us more...how did you find out you were pregnant? How did you learn it was a boy? And I will ask, but you can just PM me if you prefer, what did you do about testing this time?

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"Lkg4dmcrc" wrote:

So tell us more...how did you find out you were pregnant? How did you learn it was a boy? And I will ask, but you can just PM me if you prefer, what did you do about testing this time?

Liz

We had always wanted closely spaced kids. My DH is the middle of three boys, all almost exactly 2 years apart. My younger brother is 20 months apart from me. We were lucky both times around and it didn't take long at all to become pregnant...although I was convinced it would take longer both times. So the kids will be almost 17 months apart. I have gotten lots of comments (positive and negative), but we are excited and happy about the spacing and as an added bonus, the close spacing will be great for both kids, developmentally.

We discussed testing, as we didn't do any with our first pregnancy. We never entertained the triple scan, since those results are just probabilities and have so many false results. We decided to go ahead with the NT scan (u/s). It is done in combination with a drop of maternal blood (which tests for the presence of a certain protein) and the results for Down Syndrome are over 90% accurate. We never really felt concerned with the results, but it was nice to get a peak at the baby and we felt the added knowledge didn't hurt (especially since it tests for other trisomys as well). Our results were around 1 in 1,000 chance. We had decided against an amnio, no matter what the results of the NT scan, because it wasn't a basis for us continuing the pregnancy and the risk of m/c (however small) wasn't worth the concrete results of the amnio.

We also had the 20 week u/s, because we felt, again, that the knowledge it can provide is important...especially since I was already decided on a HB and didn't want to do so without ruling out any obvious medical issues. Luckily, all looked perfect and we found out that we are having a son. We were happy with either and part of me wanted my daughter to have a sister, but we are thrilled to get to experience raising both a son and daughter. Biggrin

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My MW appt went awesome today. She came with both of her assistants this time, so it was a bit of a full house. She remembered to bring the birth pool and it looks great. I think it is the same or similar to the one Jordan (jorgiegirl) had for her waterbirth. It has handles, an inflatable seat and the bottom of the pool inflates for cushioning as well. I am so excited to use it!

We opted to do the GBS swab (well she just gives it to you and you do it yourself). My MW is very laid back and doesn't care what you decide, just presents the facts. It doesn't affect how your pregnancy or laboring at all, not even if you have your water broken for a prolonged period. She said the only time it would raise concern is if you have a fever during labor (although she said this is something she keeps an eye on, regardless). We decided to do the test and hope for the same negative result as last time. We just want to have the information on hand in the event of a transfer, as "unknown" status is often treated worse than a negative, according to my MW (the attitude you get from hospital staff).

I can't say enough how much I love that MWs palpate your belly and tell you the baby's position. I love the little glimpse as to what they are up to in there. He's head down and in a great position. My MW was surprised at how low he is already, as she estimated him to be at -1 station. Kailey was also very low toward the last few weeks (but of course the OBs had to do an u/s to confirm her position...ugh). My BP was good, no swelling and the little guy's HR was in the 140s. Everything is pretty textbook and boring...just the way we like it!

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Yeah for a boring and great appointment! I hope your results come back negative. My chiropractor heard an interesting thing from her MW regarding GBS +. Her MW said that if the birth is in the water then there's no risk to the baby if mom is GBS+, I haven't heard this anywhere else but thought it was interesting.

Cindy

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Yay for an uneventful appointment! I'm hoping for GBS- results for you too. And he's so low! WOW!

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Ah, Karly...the woman from the August BB that I love to hate for your four hour labor. Wink You're the first August Lodge!!! That's so exciting. I enjoyed reading through your birth story Smile And yay for uneventful appointments!

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Sounds like a great appointment! I can't wait to hear how your homebirth goes!

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My chiropractor heard an interesting thing from her MW regarding GBS +. Her MW said that if the birth is in the water then there's no risk to the baby if mom is GBS+, I haven't heard this anywhere else but thought it was interesting.

That's really interesting, Cindy. I wonder if they add anything to the water. Like I mentioned, my MW is only ever concerned in the event of a fever. She does water birth and land births, but I will have to ask her if she has any information about the transmission not being a factor in waterbirths. Right now, I am really not concerned about a positive result. The transmission rates are low, regardless and my MW also has some regimen for moms who test positive that helps get rid of the colonization or at least lower the culture numbers, so if nothing else I would try that as a preventative measure.

In another fun note about the MW appt, DH was thrilled when she happened to mention how everyone at the birth would be utilized. I think she likes to make sure people are comfortable with having one (or more) assistants present and wants to ensure that they will not be all in your space. She mention how they do all the clean up (taking down the pool etc), the laundry, and usually make a meal or two. Her comment was that she would make sure we are all "fed and watered" before she left, LOL. DH was in awe. I guess I hadn't mentioned that part to him before, as it wasn't my first concern since I will have other family present as well. I warned my MW not to be too accommodating or DH might prepare a "To Do" list! I have visions of one of the assistants out mowing the lawn. Wink

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"KarlysKBug" wrote:

I warned my MW not to be too accommodating or DH might prepare a "To Do" list! I have visions of one of the assistants out mowing the lawn. Wink

haha! that would be my husband too! Nice to "meet" you Karly! I really enjoyed reading your birth story with your baby girl! Happy homebirthing! Sounds like you've got a solid gold mw!

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I look forward to following your journey. Wishing you a smooth home birth!

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I loved reading your intro and story and the rest of your lodge! I am SOO stalking you!:) I can't wait to read your birth story!

Okay, off to bed now! I gotta stop reading or I'll be up all night! :):rolleyes:

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How fun, Karly. I think that was one of my dh's favorite parts of the HB-- that these women came in, helped me birth a baby, cleaned the house, fed us all and then left the place spotless--lol.

Glad you had a boring appointment!

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I read your birth story for your first birth! I will be following your lodge now and I hope that this birth goes well for you.

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Thanks for sharing your story! I'm eagerly awaiting your home birth! We're considering it for #2 so I love to see all the positive stories Smile

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Hi karly Smile

I just read your birth story for Kailey and it's great Smile You seemed to handle finding out about her DS really well.

I'm looking forward to reading about the birth of your little boy. Can you do me a favour, and have him before the 7th of August (complete with pics and birth story Wink ) so I can read before I have to go to hospital? Lol

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"hr.lr.07" wrote:

Hi karly Smile

I just read your birth story for Kailey and it's great Smile You seemed to handle finding out about her DS really well.

I'm looking forward to reading about the birth of your little boy. Can you do me a favour, and have him before the 7th of August (complete with pics and birth story Wink ) so I can read before I have to go to hospital? Lol

Well, there were good and bad days in the beginning, you know? But honestly, it only seems hard to those in a different situation, if that makes sense. You just love your child and the rest gets easier with time. I think it would be hard to deal with a child with cancer too or one that might be blind...but when you are in the situation, the mama instincts just kick in and you do what needs to be done. The hardest part is not being a mother to a child with atypical needs. It is realizing that we really don't have control over many things in life...we can only control how we deal with what is thrown at us. There is an anonymous quote I have seen in a lot of places that I love and I think sums things up perfectly:

Life isn’t about waiting for the storm to pass,
It’s about learning to dance in the rain.

So it's not all sunshine, but that's ok.

As for the 8/7 deadline, I will have to talk to the little guy and see what he thinks, but I can't wait to hear that Tegan is here, safe and sound, Lea!

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Congratulations on your lodge (coming in a little late :))!!!

I remember your lodge with Kailey and I can't wait to hear all about your hb with this new LO Smile

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I think that 17 months is a great spread! I love having mine so close in age. They don't remember life without the other and neither will your children. Smile They are best friends. I hope the same for your two.

How are you feeling about this birth? Do you have a few things that are really important to you?

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"Emilys2Guppies" wrote:

I think that 17 months is a great spread! I love having mine so close in age. They don't remember life without the other and neither will your children. Smile They are best friends. I hope the same for your two.

How are you feeling about this birth? Do you have a few things that are really important to you?

I feel the same way about the age spread. Thanks Em!

I am feeling very excited about this birth, especially having the pool now. I had a great birth experience last time and I know this one will be wonderful as well. What is important to me? This is a great question. I am pretty good at blocking out the suggestions of others during labor, if they don't feel right to me, so I will go with what is working in the moment again this time. I am hoping all works out for having a water birth. I have seen so many peaceful births in water and I am hoping for that experience for me and the little guy. I am also lucky that many things that are important to me are standard procedure for my MW...delayed cord clamping, bonding between mom and baby, with weighing and exam postponed. It's important for me to get the best start possible with BFing. Kailey was never interesting in eating, let alone nursing and despite herbs, drugs and lots of pumping, I was never able to build a supply to be able to EP for her. That was more of a disappointment for me last time than her diagnosis, because it was something more under my control and I felt I failed. It took a lot of time to work past that and I am glad to have the support of my MW who is also an LC to make sure the little guy and I have a great start to BFing.

Other than those things, I am very open to just experiencing the birth as it unfolds. I will have family present (at least in the house Wink ), but I am going to be better this time about taking whatever time I need, without worrying about being a good hostess or making sure everyone gets time to hold the baby, etc. I guess I am just going to be more forceful in owning the experience this time, instead of worrying as much about others.

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