Marjorie's (HopelessPoet) Birthing Lodge!!

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Marjorie's (HopelessPoet) Birthing Lodge!!

Woo hoo!!! Welcome to your lodge, hon!! I'm so excited for you. Can't wait for you to post an intro and to share this journey with you.

Congrats on making it to the homestretch!!

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Congrats on making it this far! Tell us everything!

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Congrats Marjorie! Welcome to your birth lodge!

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Thanks so much girls!! I'm excited about this lodge because the other lodges have inspired me so much. An intro...

Jon, my husband, and I met online in '05. He was co-living with is mom so that he could take care of her. I was living at home with my parents. From the day we met I knew he was going to be my husband. I moved in with them in Jan. '06. His mom died in May and it was a very rough time. We got engaged in June. In August we were financially forced to move into my parents house. We were married Oct. 31.



I went off birth control in Jan '07 and we didn't really TTC rather left it up to the Gods. We decided that we really wanted to start a family despite our financial situation and I started my half attempt at charting in May. At the end of July I end up horribly sick and really thought I was pregnant. Doing the logical thing we bought a home test. It was negative. I stayed sick and on August 20th I had my gallbladder removed. By this time I know I'm pregnant despite the many home tests and blood tests that had come up negative. I'm still sick and mid-Sept. I called the health department to book me in for a pregnancy test. On 9-18-07 I finally get a positive test and my LMP dates me to be due May 3.

Jon was very happy to hear the news. My parents really didn't respond either way. It's been a wild ride getting to 36 wks. Including a gender screw up so we'll have a good story about why Christopher's baby shower cake says 'Welcome Jacqueline Ann'. LOL

I'm having NSTs done twice a week at this point and BPPs every two weeks. I'm insulin dependent due to GD. I'm really really hoping that I go into labor on my own since my OB is telling me that the longest he can 'let' me go is 40wks. He fears placenta failure due to the insulin. I'm taking it day by day and we'll cross those bridges when we come to them. I feel very educated about my situation and I know I'll do the right thing for my baby and I when the time comes.

I'm an open book so if anyone wants to know anything just ask. Here's my 36wk belly pic and the latest pic of Christopher we've got.

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Congratulations on your lodge!!

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Congratulations on your lodge! Great pics!

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Congrats and welcome to your lodge, I really liked the wedding pics.

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I am so excited for your lodge. I always love reading your posts.

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Welcome to your lodge!!! You are almost there now. It's nice to hear a bit more about you!

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congrats on your lodge!!!

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Congrats on your lodge.

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Welcome to your Lodge!

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Love the pics!

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Welcome to your lodge!!

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Welcome to your lodge! Looking forward to following your story. Biggrin

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Congratulations, you're so close now!

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Congrats on your lodge! I know pregnancy has not been an easy road for you, but you're doing great!

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Congrats on your lodge! We have the same due date!

Can't wait to hear more...

XO
Heather

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Welcome to your lodge!!!

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Welcome to your lodge, and nice intro!

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I am so excited for you!!! Welcome to your lodge and thanks for the pics.

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Duh. I don't know why but at some point last night I woke up and thought about my intro. I forgot to include that we moved from my parents house, in Nov. '07, into a trailer that we're buying. Doh.

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Stopping in from the other board to say congratulations on your lodge. You're getting close! Any signs of nesting yet?

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Lol. We've been nesting since the day we moved in and we're still not really close to being done. As if a house could ever be 'done'. If I had LO today we'd be ready but there is still so much that we need to do. I had a pretty good burst of nesting one night and I just didn't know what I was doing. Looking back it's pretty comical.

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Welcome to your lodge! I can't wait to hear about your beautiful birth! Biggrin

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Congrats on your new place. It really is amazing how much work a house can take. Glad to hear that you are ready for the baby.

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Welcome to your lodge!!!

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excited to hear how your birth will be! Smile

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:bigarmhug: Well Marjorie here you are at last. Welcome to your lodge and congratulations! Biggrin It's been wonderful sharing this journey with you, especially because we have so much in common. It's getting really exciting now. I love your pics. That one of Christopher is gorgeous!

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Welcome to your lodge! Congrats on your new place, homes never really do seem to be finished.

Cindy

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Welcome to your lodge! I'm out here rooting for you!!! :kaos3:

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Congratulations Marjorie!!! I can't believe you're here already! Soon all of us May moms will be in the home stretch! Good luck with having the labor and delivery you've always dreamed of! I know you're a strong women and will be able to do whatever needs to be done to bring Christoper into this world!

Good luck, I'm looking forward to following your journey the last few weeks!

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Thanks girls!!

Here's an update from my NST today. Baby is looking wonderful. I'm still having semi-regular contractions according to the machine. I don't feel them all but now I'm starting to know what they're going to feel like. Knowing what I know now I had 3 pretty good ones last night that sent me to bed. LOL. I had my GBS screen today and he only swabbed vaginally. YAYAY!!! I was adamant about that in my head but I was to silly not to say anything but it came out good anyway. Since I was already undressed I had him check me b/c curiosity always kills this kat. I'm not closed but I'm not dilated 1cm either. I'm 50-60% effaced. My body is working correctly!!! That's been my biggest fear that I wouldn't be able to go into labor on my own and now that I know what's going on I'M NOT AFRAID anymore!!!!

I did ask him if there was any time that he'd break my water without asking me first and he told me that the only time he'd EVER do something without talking to me about it first was in a dire emergency and he felt that by taking the time to explain something to me was going to put us in danger. SHEW!! That was another thing I was worried about, that he'd do something just because he wanted to without informing me. He actually had this appalled look on his face that told me he couldn't believe anyone would do that. I'm so glad that while he was in El Paso doing his OB training he worked with independent midwives.

Ok. I'll shut up now. Thanks for reading!

ETA: I've not gained any weight!!!! 375lbs. and staying!

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Hi Marjorie! 1st welcome to your lodge! 2nd I am glad to hear that things are going well for you and that it looks like you'll go into labor on your own.

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Welcome to your lodge. Glad you got some reassurance from your doctor!

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Congratulations on a good appt!

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Glad you had such a reassuring appt.!

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Hi Marjorie, welcome to your lodge! I enjoyed your back story & loved looking at the pics. You were a beautiful bride!

I'm glad your latest appt went well. Just keep thinking positive and stay as healthy as you can. That's great that you're already effacing--with luck your body will just do what it needs to do without any outside help! Smile

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Hi Marjorie - I'm so glad to hear that you're getting yourself geared up to go into labor on your own. Are you drinking the Red Raspberry Leaf tea or taking an extract? That really helps nourish your uterus and can really make a difference. (A friend of mine just had baby #2 - she was drinking the tea faithfully and LOTS and had a quick, quick, quick labor with the contractions being regular from the start. Granted, this was baby #2 so that can make a difference, but she feels sure the tea is what helped her. I too had a speedy labor (for a 1st baby) and think it was from the RRL and also a L6W vitamin I was taking.

It sounds like you and your OB have really good communication so that's great.

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I am not doing any RRL tea/extract. Mainly b/c we don't have the money to buy it.

What is L6W?

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Marjorie, I'm glad your appointment went well! Your doctor sounds awesome. Biggrin I really, really hope that you're able to go into labor right on time, so you don't have to worry about induction at all! Biggrin

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Ugh. I don't even know where to start. This is probably going to ramble on a bit but I've got to get my thoughts out somewhere.

I'm not done being pregnant. My body isn't done being pregnant. I'm willing to refuse induction at 40wks as long as the NSTs/BPPs look good and my 'mommy instinct' is feeling good about everything. I'm not really worried about my care provider telling me he won't deliver me b/c he has to at least for 30 days. (I'm sure I won't go overdue 30 days. LOL) I know that walking into a hospital ups my chances of a c-sect. BUT I have no other options at this time. I know that walking into a hospital for an induction really ups my chances of a c-sect. thus the reason I'm ok with declining as long as everything look good. I guess my concern is this: Can a care provider refuse to do NSTs/BPPs and other 'regular' check up stuff if they have given you you're '30 day notice' to find another CP? I know they have to treat you if you walk in and you're already in labor BUT do they have to treat you if you refuse induction and you're not in labor? I guess that's really what I'm worried about. I know that being insulin dependent makes me at a higher risk for placenta failure. If that becomes a problem then obviously induction is needed. BUT I think that being induced with no warning signs is just as bad as walking in with a scheduled c-sect. ARGGG. This is so bittersweet. I'm NOT done being pregnant but I feel like I'm being forced into trying to go into labor on my own before 40wks or be faced with the real possibility that my OB is going to tell me to find another CP when I decline induction. Then I'll be left with not having proper care for my situation. I'm willing to do daily NSTs, (even though deep down I know that's really uncalled for), just to satisfy him as long as it will keep him from wanting to induce me without any real indications of a problem. Sigh. Anyone have any thoughts to help me figure this out?

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"HopelessPoet" wrote:

I guess my concern is this: Can a care provider refuse to do NSTs/BPPs and other 'regular' check up stuff if they have given you you're '30 day notice' to find another CP? I know they have to treat you if you walk in and you're already in labor BUT do they have to treat you if you refuse induction and you're not in labor?

I have been following your story and wanted to comment on this.

You are correct, if you present to the hospital in labor they cannot refuse to treat you (that's an EMTALA violation with hefty federal fines for the hospital and docs).

A provider COULD refuse to order tests/monitoring (the hospital staff will not do it without an order from the provider), but it would be opening them up to more liability in my opinion. If something happened how could they respond to the fact that they refused to monitor you?

Your doc has to give you 30 days notice in order to drop you from the practice? Then they are responsible for caring for you for those 30 days.

Have you had this discussion with your doc? in your previous post your OB sounded fairly reasonable.

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Some days he's super reasonable and some days he's power hungry. The last time we talked about an induction date it wasn't so pretty. However, now that things have calmed way down I could try to talk to him about it again. I'm just really worried that he's going to tell me to find a different CP and honestly, I can't find one near here that's as good as him. He's the best there is as far as letting me go as naturally as possible. Most other providers that I could have would just flat out tell me I had to induce at 39 wks and that they would not bother trying a Foley Cath. I guess I'm worried about losing the best I've got to be put in a worse situation. If that makes any sense?

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I'm so sorry you have this headache when you should be just resting and enjoying your pregnancy. I'll be thinking of you in the next few weeks and following your lodge.

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Marjorie, I know you're really anxious and stressed about the possible induction and potential cascade of interventions, but if I were in your situation I'd try to focus my energy on the positive things in my control. The unknown is frightening but beyond a certain point you can't really effect change once you've already let your CP(s) know where you stand and what you will and will not consent to. If your baby looks fine it sounds like you can refuse the arbitrary induction. Spending additional time worrying about what ifs is only going to make the last few wks of your pregnancy miserable.

If it were me, I'd be taking lots of long walks, spending time on a birthing ball or simply squatting and doing other helpful positioning things (prenatal yoga poses or whatever), drinking RRL tea, having lots of sex, eating a clean diet, and doing everything in my power to have as healthy a pregnancy as I could.

If you don't have a health food or herb store near you, and don't want to spend for the Yogi or Traditional Medicinals tea ($5/box or so) I could mail you some red raspberry leaf (loose form) and you can make a tea out of it. I was planning to pick up some for myself tomorrow anyhow. Let me know (PM me.)

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I totally 100% understand your feelings. I was there not too long ago!

Here is what I did in the days preceeding my spontaneous labor (to give you some ideas maybe?)

I did multiple fear releases with Hypnobabies. Letting go of my fears was a major role in helping my body relax and allow labor to begin.

I took EPO vaginally and orally daily. The night before labor, I took 1000mg orally and 2000mg vaginally.

I walked tons. But the night before labor began, I did squats and pushed a little bit during the squat every few minutes throughout the walk.

I saw a chiropractor the day before labor and had my sacrum adjusted.

I meditated and prayed (another way of allowing my body to just relax and accept whatever was to come).

I did all the techniques on spinningbabies.com to get baby into prime position (he was ROA at birth!)

About the induction, I know it's easier said than done, but try to put your energy in getting your body ready for labor and relaxing rather than tensing up about the what-ifs... tension and fear can really hold things up.

Good luck hun!!

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I'm sorry you're having so much stress over the situation. I don't know what the docs can and can't refuse to do. Has the CP already given you a 30 notice? If not, can you just play along for now but cancel the induction date when it gets closer. That way, even if they give you 30 days at that point, you'll still have plenty of time to have your baby. Take the nod-and-smile approach until you get closer and then tell him you refuse to be induced unless there are signs of a problem.

The other ladies are dead right about meditation, visualization, etc. If you are under stress, your baby is under stress. It will help calm you, calm your baby, and prepare both of you for labor.

"HopelessPoet" wrote:

What is L6W?

L6W is a "last six weeks" vitamin that helps youru body gear up for labor. Here's a write-up I just copied from a website: For expectant mothers, the practiced Amish Herbalist, Elizabeth Schwartz, offers us this Formula for the assurance and reassurance of mothers-to-be. L.6W is used to ensure easy and quick delivery with a minimum of discomfort for mother and baby. This contribution to the herbal world of successful natural delivery and its practitioners, enriches not only the Amish Community but the larger community of all humanity as well. The object here is to take the L.6W daily during the last six weeks of pregnancy. Reproductive structures are nourished so they have the needed energy to work. With this Formula we also control bloating and its nausea by the inclusion of Angelica in the combination. The other members of this balanced herbal team are combined in such a manner as to orchestrate and rehearse the birth process, by preparing all systems to do their job as expected, when the time is here. COMBINATION: Blue Cohosh, Pennyroyal, Red Raspberry Leaf, Spikenard, Partridge Berry, Blue Vervain, Angelica.

I had a lot of cramping while I took the vitamin, but it was just my body gearing up for labor. I went 9 days past my EDD so it's pretty safe to say that it didn't make me go into labor early.

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hoping you can relax some! I KNOW much easier said than done hehe

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"helivt" wrote:

Marjorie, I know you're really anxious and stressed about the possible induction and potential cascade of interventions, but if I were in your situation I'd try to focus my energy on the positive things in my control. The unknown is frightening but beyond a certain point you can't really effect change once you've already let your CP(s) know where you stand and what you will and will not consent to. If your baby looks fine it sounds like you can refuse the arbitrary induction. Spending additional time worrying about what ifs is only going to make the last few wks of your pregnancy miserable.

If it were me, I'd be taking lots of long walks, spending time on a birthing ball or simply squatting and doing other helpful positioning things (prenatal yoga poses or whatever), drinking RRL tea, having lots of sex, eating a clean diet, and doing everything in my power to have as healthy a pregnancy as I could.

If you don't have a health food or herb store near you, and don't want to spend for the Yogi or Traditional Medicinals tea ($5/box or so) I could mail you some red raspberry leaf (loose form) and you can make a tea out of it. I was planning to pick up some for myself tomorrow anyhow. Let me know (PM me.)

I totally agree with this. My last week of pregnancy (the 42nd week, that is) was REALLY stressful, due to all the pressure to induce. It was only when I saw MY doctor (my family doctor, not the OB resident) and she didn't mention anything about an induction and I was able to calm down (it was like a weight was lifted off of me), that I went into labor that night. Sure, it could have been coincidence, but I really think that my state of mind had a lot to do with it.

BTW, welcome to your lodge! Sorry it's taken me so long to post here. My time seems to be a bit limited these days!

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