nadine, you look beautiful!!! you and monty look great!! i'm just a lurker over here, but who knows maybe i'll try natural with #4. keep cooking those babies. i can't believe you were on bedrest for sooooo looooonng. if you can endure that, these last couple of weeks should go by quickly. at least i hope so for you. unbelievable, more twins. you rock. good luck and enjoy the last leg of your wonderful pregnancy. colleen
Oh I love your siggy picture Nadine, it's so precious!
I'm so excited to see these two little bundles
What a gorgeous picture. There is such wonderful emotion that shows through!
How wonderful that with all the best rest you can still say that you're enjoying being pregnant. I know a lot of women feel sad when their pregnancy is done. That didn't happen to me (I was so glad to return to my non-pregnant self) but I certainly can imagine what that sadness must feel like. Of course you'll have two blessed little bundles to snuggle with to cheer you up! A little girl IS such a wonderful thing. They truly ARE sugar and spice and everything nice. Awh, now I'm getting misty eyed.
I'm so excited for you!
Hi Nadine, Your picture with Monty is beautiful! I am so happy you got it done. I can appreciate the missing being pregnant. i always felt so full of life and "special" in a way. As for not being able to visualize your birth...that's OK. I couldn;t visualize either of my birth experiences before hand. maybe it's one way nature teaches us to just "let go." Birth can't happen until we surrender ourselves to the process. You will find your pathway as things begin to unfold. You have such a strong spirit and all your work with hypnobabies is going help you adapt to the process along the way.
as for little girls..well, I have no boy experience - so I'm tainted but I always new that if I was only going to be blessed with one gender that I had hoped that it would be girls. Granted, I really long for a little boy munchkin - but that isn't up to me. Little girls ARE sugar and spice. They are nursing dollies, pink ruffles, "pretties" in their hair, braids and beads and bobbles. You will sooo enjoy your baby girl. Trust that the right time will come when it comes and that your envision, although it maybe unclear now, will become more vivid as you let go through the process.
The picture of you & Monty is perfect. So peaceful.
Hopefully your little ones will bake for as long as they need to . . . hang in there!
I really am excited for a girl. I keep looking at the clothes we have, a little bit of blue and a little bit of pink, and I'm amazed. I have been so amazingly blessed by not just the appearance of two more humans to nurture.. but by the wonderful and *strong* women who surround me on my journey. At first, I thought a lodge was just another journal but I realized it's way more than that. It's a home, and it's foundation is the strength of every pregnant woman and mother here. I always thought the reason that raising children these days is because women are forced to do it alone so much, when in old days women from conception were surrounded by the women in their lives. Not just their moms, but *all* moms. I am really blessed to be surrounded in this way. I can guarantee that I will be thinking of each one of you during my birthing. Erika, when I reach my transformation stage, I *know* that I will think of you and everything you've done for your two little ones. I'm glad you were due before me so I would have the opportunity to see how it can be done.
It's possible (though I leave my options open) that this is my last time being pregnant. I think that is why I'm wanting to just enjoy it. Like Erika said, there's something special about a pregnant woman and I really do feel special right now. Getting the pictures of my son and I done was so very important to me, just in case. And really this is his first time becoming a big brother and we will never experience this again. He is so totally catured by his new role, even though they aren't here yet. There isn't a day that goes by where he won't say something about his excitement for the babies and our future. I'm not fooling myself into thinking this is going to be easy, but I don't think it's going to be as hard as it could be.
I am so in love with my little boy, and I can't even imagine having that love for two others as well. Every day, my son says something that is so grown up, and so funny and so just dead on and I absolutely love the process of growing up. My son, out of the blue the other night in bed says "mom.. it's scary, you're going to have THREE kids soon" where do they get these things.
We're in the home stretch, today I plan to write out my birth plan for good and make two copies of it. One is for the nurses the other for myself. My OB already knows what I want. I started the last chapter of hypnobabies and I am going to start my last CD rotation. I'm going to lay out as much of the babies' layette as I can in our tight space, basically make the changing station right now. I'm going to go for a walk this afternoon with my pregnancy affirmations CD, and I also will be starting my squats and stretches.
wow. Two weeks until term... it really could happen any day now
Just wanted to say I was thinking of you, and I love your hope it's so inspiring!
Two weeks until term... it really could happen any day now
That's so exciting. I can hardly wait to hear your birth story!
I love the picture of you and Monty - the emotion truly does show right through that pic - it is just gorgeous!!
It has been amazing having a little girl - I am sure you will feel the same way.
I was in the same place as you back in July - just could not get my head straight and visualize the birth. Finally, I got to peace with letting go and going with the flow. Lo and behold, I had the most amazing labor and delivery experience yet with DD. I am sending you vibes and prayers and all the best wishes for a beautiful and easy labor & delivery.
Now hang on babies so they will grow bigger and fatter and have an easier time nursing....
Isn't this board wonderful? It is meaningful to every mom here that you find solace and inspiration from everyone posting. It is sad that in our modern day, we are very isolated from other women and there isn't much of a support structure because everyone seems to be so independent.
Anyway, you've come so far with your babes, just a little bit longer until they are ready to meet the world. Even though you may not be able to visualize your birth, you seem to be mentally and emotionally prepared. I can't wait to read about it.
Wow, you are another inspiration! You are amazing and you are and going to be a great mom! I really admire your strength and confidence in having your babies.
That was such a beautiful post Nadine You've come a long awy & done an amazing job of it, you really have.
You sound very at peace with everything Nadine. I love your pic w/Monty! Just wanted to see how you were feeling today, since you had mentioned you felt like things were close. KUP when you can.
Morning darling! Thought I'd bump this up
Did you find out anything about your apartment yet? How was the shower? How are you feeling these days?
She said the words.. now I don't know what to think. It's so funny when docs bring up the word induction to an obviously uncomfortable woman in her last weeks. They must know it works. She didn't try to hide behind medical indication or fear.. she just said straight up. Next week I'll check your cervix. If by 38 weeks we don't see babies we'll schedule your induction date.
I have mixed feelings, I know I can handle the pitocin, I have my hypnobabies training. My body is *very* good at laboring, and I'm already almost 100% and dilated. However dammit I've worked SO hard to keep them in, only to have them removed from me artificially?? I didn't make a decision, but I don't know if I'll go through with it.
Honestly 38 weeks? it just seems early
Wow, I can't even imagine the frustration of all your bed rest to keep them in, just to hear you need to get them out with drugs...is there a reason they won't let you at least go to term?
Sorry! I can't imagine how hard it would be to be faced with such a decision, when you must be uncomfortable with two in there.
But I am glad you have your new place to look forward to...maybe all that moving will get things "moving."
I'm sending natural labor vibes your way, Nadine. I'm guessing those babies will make an appearance before the threat of induction becomes too real. Hugs to you!
Why does she want to induce you at 38 weeks? Did she give you a reason?
Sending you lots of hugs and support!!!!!
That does seem early. And you are right, they throw that out there at the end when we at our most uncomfortable and don't even attempt to justify it.
Wishing you all the best!!!
no reason, I thought it best to leave it alone this week, since it may end up being pointless. Next week if she mentions it we'll be having a lot of discussion about it. Honestly I think it's a convenience factor.. I'm huge, I'm uncomfortable and it's after the "due date" so let's do it. If it makes her feel better I'd even let her strip my membranes, but I don't think I'll do the induction
Ah. I see. Well I know you trust yourself and you'll do what's best for you.
Bottom line, it's your choice and you will do what you, their mommy, feels is best. I think it's great the babies have stayed in this long, keep up the good work and congratualtions on the apartment! I bet with all the moving this weekend, you'll get those girls to make an appearance
Hi Nadine, I'm sorry I'm coming in so late on your lodge. A huge congratulations to you for coming so far! Sending many, many supportive vibes your way.
Ya know, I'll be honest it really really bugs me when doctors do this (okay, lets me honest it pisses me off lol), especially when they say it w/out giving you a choice & you have two HEALTHY babies in there - I think it's wrong.
I totally don't blame you for having mixed feelings, I think I'd do as your doing & wait.
I finished my birth plan, which I'm pretty happy with. I'll type it out later. I'm still frustrated over my appointment and struggling with what to do. I hate the idea of a planned birthing. I hate the idea of pitocin induced contractions. I hate the impatience of doctors these days. I know the "easiest" way out of it is to just not show up but I'm not like that. So I don't know whether I'll tell her straight up to not bother scheduling it, or just not show. I suppose it depends on my appointment. She's been very receptive to me, and I am not the type to be intimidated by doctors, but it's still a difficult choice. I suppose it could be a pointless argument, since I could likely wind up having them before then. So, my next decision is, do I allow her to schedule in the hopes that these two follow the path of both my others and come on their own that morning? Do I let her strip my membranes, which I know doesn't really do anything? Then I start talking to my midwife about "natural" induction stuff to see if I can get things moving?
Agh. Agony. I know it's forever away but I'm the obsessive type
Nadine, I'm sorry that you're faced with this decision. It must be really tough. I can't imagine how you're feeling now. What a turn-around huh?
You don't have to really worry for another 2 1/2 weeks right. That's when she's wanting to schedule?
At about 38 weeks with Owen, I had been steadily progressing for a couple weeks (about 1cm per week) and the doc wanted to schedule an induction. I said...really? This had never been brought up before. So (not knowing then what I know now) we looked at possible dates. I kept it tentative though. It was scheduled for 39wks2days. I had one more appointment before then. I told myself, if I had stopped progressing, I will not go through with this. There was no pressure from my doctor.
Well, I was 3cm and 100%, so we went through with it.
Thankfully, it went very well and I don't regret my decision.
After all of that, what I'm trying to say is, you can work with your doctor to come to a compromise. If you feel like you really don't want to be induced, by all means, do not do it. But, sometimes, it's not such a bad thing. If you feel comfortable with it, you know what you're doing, and you have a doc that you trust, then everything's cool. And I really hope you know that you will get no judgement here at all for whatever you decide.
ETA: I had a completely pit-free induction, so it is possible. I was only in active labor for 6 hours. (I had cytotec orally and broken waters)
I don't know alot about carrying twins, so I'm curious what the "medical" reason is for not letting you go past 38 wks? Sorry for being clueless but if there's no risk to the babies, I hope she lets them come when they are ready. Good Luck at your next appt going over your birth plan.
How's moving going?
I can't see an induction just for arbitrary calendar purposes. I was 41 weeks plus and still regret allowing those bullies to talk me into inducing Victor.
I hope you do go full term and they come on their own. Why put your uterus and your babies through the stress of Pitocin without a clear medical indication?
If you have a few minutes, maybe head over to mothering.com in the "multiples" section. There are many moms over there who have "gone the distance" with twins.
We are thinking about you constantly!!!
Here's my birth plan. It's certainly verbose.. but I have such specific plans in mind that I need to plan for seeing as it may likely not be MY OB that attends my birthing. I got to know the other docs quite well and I know that while skilled, a few of them are *very* impatient. I don't know how to have made my no episiotomy rule any clearer.. I wish I could put asterisks and exclamation points all around it...
The following contains my plans for my ideal birthing experience. My goal is to have a drug and intervention free hypnobirth.
Emergencies: In the event that the situation become life threatening for either myself or my babies, we wil of course yield to any lif saving procedures with only the briefest consultation. In the much more likely event that we get the birthing we desire, we ask that you refrain from using any routine medical procedures without consultation and approval.
Pre-Admission: We would prefer to arrive at the FMC as late as possible while still allowing staff adequate time to prepare for the arrival of our twins. Should I arrive prior to 4cm I would like to delay admission.
Admission: I prefer to hydrate myself as necessary with juices and water or ice. Vomiting is to be expected and experience has taught me that liquids comfort me and soothe my stomach. Because of our twin birth I will of course accept a hep-lock but will refuse an IV unless medically indicated.
Movement: I would prefer to move freely as I desire and would prefer to not have continuous EFM, but intermittent monitoring if deemed necessary. My plan is to use hypnosis for birthing and as such cannot restrict my movement.
Since we are using hypnosis, please refrain from using words "pain" and "hurt" as these words contradict my scripts. We would also like low lights and quiet voices when possible for the same reason. Please don't offer us drugs.
Birth Support: Upon admission I would like to consult with anesthesia to request the presence of both Michael and my labor support person during my labor and delivery. Any support from nurses in this position would be very much appreciated.
Augmentation: I strongly desire to let my labor progress naturally. If I stall or if speed becomes necessary medically, we would prefer a moment for privacy to attempt natural induction methods before consenting to pitocin. I understand this takes some time, and we certainly appreciate your patience.
Exams: I would like to limit the internal exams to once upon admission, and again to check for completion if I feel like pushing.
Pushing: We will be using mother guided pushing and following a hypnosis script during this stage. Again we ask for as much quiet as is possible at this time, and that the staff refrain from coaching the push unless an emergency arises. I would like to be free to birth in any position that is possible on the OR table.
Perinium Support: Under NO circumstances to I permit the use of an episiotomy at any time. Dr Hayes is aware of my desire and has agreed and I ask the same of any medical person attending my birth. Any possible perinial support and massage from a nurse or OB would be highly appreciated to prevent tearing. I may choose to push between contractions at crowning to limit the damage. Myself and my bottom both thank you.
Delivery: Please refrain from pulling on our babies' heads or turning them unless there is any dystocia present. If we find that baby B has turned into a breech position, Dr Hayes has expressed comfort in delivering her breech. If Dr Hayes is not available I would request an OB attend that feels comfortable with the procedure. We would like to ask that the staff wait for the cor to stop pulsating before clamping, and Michael would like to be offered the opportunity to cut the cord at this time if possible.
I understand that I will not be able to hold Baby A right away, but I ask that all newborn procedures be delayed until at least 2 hours to facilitate bonding. I will be refusing eye drops, ointment and vitamin K be given to my babies and will sign the proper waivers to do so. Our son will not be circumcised.
My placentas should be allowed to detatch and be delivered at their own pace, without a pitocin augemntation. Breastfeeding my babies should suffice. I have learned that traction of the placenta causes extensive bleeding.
I realize that our requests are difficult due to the nature of my birth, and I certainly appreciate the efforts to allow us the experience of our perfect birthing. Thank you!
Wonderful!!! What a thorough birth plan Nadine. I hope you get all of that, just the way you want it
What a wonderful birth plan!!!!!! Great job!!!!
Myself and my bottom both thank you.
LOL! I love that line. What a great birthplan!
Great birth plan!
well ladies, I'm not getting excited yet, *but* since about 10am, I've had regular (painless) contracting at 4 mins apart lasting a minute each. My back is hurting and I have intense pressure.
I'm going to drink some water, go for a walk and see how they go. If they pick up in intensity I'll listen to my birthing day affirmation. After that we'll judge my progress and I'll come let you know how it's going
Good luck Nadine! I hope everything turns out for the best for you, whether the twins come today or not! Can't wait to hear how it turned out.
so far I'm in *exactly* the same place.. no change in intensity or spacing whatsoever. I still feel like I have a bowling ball in my crotch, so I'm alternating between taking it easy and walking. I'll be hopping in the tub as soon as my bf's sister gets out of the bathroom.
Wow! Time to stalk your lodge. Good luck and KUP!
Hi sweetie! Clearly I've caught up on your lodge on a good day... Let the stalking begin...
Your birth plan rocks. Yay you! I love that line about your bottom too - they can't possibly ignore that!
Thinking of you!
Your birth plan is so amazing - you managed to express all your "wants and needs" in such a diplomatic fashion.
Glad to hear things are going well today - I'm officially stalking now too! Two twin lodges in the same month - how fantastic is this board??!!??
Well I've decided to give up and go to bed. I'll be listening to my hypnobabies scripts and doing more fear release sessions. After much thinking I've come up with a possible reason for why my birthing isn't progressing beyond 4 mins apart for 40-60 seconds. They're good hard ones, I definitely feel nose firmness. I can feel the pressure in my rectum. I *know* they're the good kind, but it's NOT going anywhere.
I'm afraid. In my mind I have set myself on the number 37, and I'm not allowing my body to progress because I'm not 37 weeks. I really need to relax, I need to tell my body it's okay to have my babies right now. Not perfect timing no, but it's okay.
So, I'm going to finish rrlt, go to bed and relax and have a conversation with myself, then write down my fears and do a fear release session. I took M to work, so I will be just relaxing without someone breathing down my neck.
I will most certainly let you girls know if anything happens
Sending you some (((Fear Release Vibes)))!
Good luck Nadine. I'm shooting for that 37 week mark as well. Only 3 weeks to go for me. My hope is that babies turn and I'll go into labor just before the scheduled c-section.
Will you be moving into your new apartment soon? or are you there already?
How are you doing this morning? I hope no news is good news!
I can't wait for an update. I hope all is going well with you, Nadine.
Thinking of you Nadine!
thank you ladies so much for approving of my birth plan. I know it's lengthy but the fact that you ladies like it makes me feel like I'm heading in the right direction.
I've decided to just live with it. I think this is going to be the "first labor" that I didn't have. (My first was complete in under 6 hours) I think I'll just be dealing with contracting until they decide to make their appearance, and I think my mental block for 37 weeks just might be too strong for me to overcome.
I love you girls, I can't wait to be posting pictures of the wee ones, however they're welcome to wait. I'd like to at least be settled in my new home
Wanted to bump your lodge back up Nadine! One more week until you cross that mental block! Who knows, you may overcome it before then!
I like your birth plan, I hope you don't mind if I copy large portions of it for ours Are you all moved in yet?