My prayers are with you! I'm thinking positive thoughts for Callie to get moving down-- good luck with all those tips; I think they'll do the trick!
I am praying for you and can feel your frustration all the way here! Don't give up hope!
Oh hun, I feel for you. Keep up hope, sometimes babies just don't drop until active labor. Maybe you'll be one of those momma's whose baby settles in when the water breaks and then everything moves along quickly.
Either way, I'm thinking of you and sending labor vibes your way.
Wow! I'm so sorry, this must be very stressful for you.
I'm a little confused by the term "engaged". Sorry. Is that the same thing as when they are at a -1 or 1 station, etc? Andrea was at a negative station for most of my labor. I was well into transition before she came down. Probably doesn't help that she was posterior. Anyway, I was thinking that was what "engaged" was refering to, but then it wouldn't make sense that you would need a c-section if that is the case so I must be wrong. Sorry for rambling.
I sure hope she progresses down further for you. I will keep you in my prayers.
Engaged is being at 0 or -1, -2 etc etc. station.
I had another appt. today with little change. Peter and I have been walking about a mile a night, which is all I can do without pooping out, and it does seem to help a little in getting her to drop lower, but as always, she moves back up. I am feeling a little better because my contractions have let up. Oddly, the wait isn't as bad when I am not having to get my hopes up and keep track of the intervals daily.
I need to go ahead and schedule with Valley Medical, or local medical center, and get an ultrasound. That way, if I go over much more I can schedule a c-section through them and they will have recent information for me on file.
I am measuring at 43, almost 44 weeks abdominally and Callie is still a big girl, but that's fine. Dilation is unchanged, I am still around 2 cm, soft, and 80% effaced. And she is still too high to do a proper membrane sweep. My next appt, is friday, and I plan on walking with Peter BEFORE the appt. to see if it will drop her enough to sweep me. With any luck, it will.
My midwives do not recommend any other herbal interventions than what I am already doing - Evening Primrose Oil vaginally at night, Raspberry leaf tea in the evenings, as desired, and lots of squatting positions with walking. They do NOT recommend black and blue cohosh because it can cause fetal toxicity and elevate my blood pressure, which is undesirable. So we;re just waiting it out at this point.
She could still engage vaginally and come at home, all hope isn't lost despite how panicked I was initially. It is just *unusual* for first time moms to not engage a week or two before. Still, I am just taking it a day at a time so I don't go crazy.
A c-section still terrifies me and likely will for the rest of my life, but I know that if I do end up with one there was just no other way and that is a slight comfort. It would still break my heart to have one, but the end goal is a healthy baby and a healthy me, and despite my fears I know a c-section may very well end up being best.
But I've got some time, yet. Damn though, I am SO tired of being pregnant! I don't WANT an April baby, that will just prove my mother-in-law right and I'd rather not do that
My mw said ther same thing. she told me to take time to clear my minld, i'm sure you've already done the soul-searching... the day i finally went into labor, i had a huge release about our financial situation, i just really cried it out and acknowledged how nervous i was about it - and a few hours later, i was in active labor.
you're in my prayers, taryl. i'm wishing you an easy beautiful homebirth.
you sound a lot better though, and i think you'll be fine!
love ya, girl!
Taryl you are in my prayers and I praying Callie makes her arrival soon. Keep thinking positive...
Taryl - I had a big boy 9lbs 1oz and he never engaged until I was in labor. 3 days before labor I was too closed, high, and tight to get a membrane sweep as well. So never fear, it could still happen! Hang in there sweetie.
*peeks in* Hi Laurie! I haven't been on our birth board much lately, how have you and your family been?
Taryl, hang tight... err... or rather hang, soft loose and open
Your spirits certainly seem to be lifting! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Oh! I have a quote from my mom that I thought I should share. She had four kids ranging from right on the due date to twenty days past due... and one who was born with such dry skin the doc said he thought she was actually a month further along than they thought... which was eight days past due!! We were all over nine pounds.
A friend of the family had a baby this week... close to ten pounds. My sister and cousin (both childless as yet) were making a big deal about the size. Mom pipes up, "my easiest labors were with my biggest kids. There really isn't much difference in the size of a 7 pounder's head and a 10 pounder's head... the extra weight is mostly fat and height... Fat squishes really easy, so it doesn't feel much different!"
I laughed for about ten minutes. It's pretty much true though. All of my kids were born too fast for much molding. The 36 week 6 lber had a head circumference of 14 1/2 inches, and the other two (39w2d weeks, and 41w5d) were both 15 inches.
So whenever you get too concerned about your chubby little girl, just remind yourself that she'll be 'squishy' LOL.
Hey Taryl! You are sounding in better spirits. It sounds like you are doing everything physically in your power to help little Callie along. I'm thinking of you lots and hoping that your time is near.
How are you doing?
Keep on trucking. You are getting close. Babies all come out, but they come out differently, so try not to focus on the specifics of what is or isn't happening.
You're mom, Teegs, is absolutely right. I have heard much of the same thing. Fat can actually make labor less painful because the baby's bones aren't grating directly against your pelvis.
Two appointments on the same day tomorrow, so an update will be forthcoming!
Good luck, Taryl, hope you get some good news today, and that maybe Callie will cooperate for that membrane sweep!
Thinking of you today Taryl, I hope your appointments go well!
Well today was a BUSY day!
It started off well enough, my first appt. was at 9:30 with an OB I saw at the very beginning of pregnancy. He had me there to do a non-stress test and recommend for an ultrasound. The NST went well enough, but it took a good ten minutes to even start it because of her positioning. Overall the test for her was positive, she moved around a ton and had good short term heart progress with lots of variations, but her overall progress wasn't what they wanted to see, with only one acceleration in her heartbeat overall instead of two or three, which is what it takes to pass the test. So in addition to my ultrasound for her size and placenta condition a bio-physical was also added due to those results.
My blood pressure was a little high, at around 130/90, and my protein was trace, so a pre-eclampsia blood panel was done on site additionally. We'll get the results of that later on. The blood pressure was suspect, because every time they tried it I had just been moving around or talking, and when they tried at the end they had forgotten and allowed to to get up and move around too, so even though it had probably been lower to begin with that pushed it back up... but more on that later.
So Radiology at Bartlett Regional, our local hospital, managed to squeeze me in for 3:00 today after several unsuccessful attempts to contact them. Naturally, that was the exact time of my birth center appt. and so I spent a while phonetagging them to try and change the time and we ended up moving that appt. to 4:00.
We got to radiology at around 2:45 and proceeded to sit in the waiting room for almost an hour, they were running horribly behind. When we finally got in to be seen the ultrasound went well enough, but with some concerning results. Both Dr. Schneider and Kaye has estimated Callie's weight to be close to 10 pounds at this point and the ultrasound confirmed it, which in and of itself isn't problematic. Her fluid volume was over 10, meaning she has more than enough fluid, and that may be contributing to her somersaults (she has her own private jacuzzi, after all!). The biggest problem point, other than her being post term, was that the placenta was well-calcified and thus not doing its job of getting her nourishment very well.
Her heartbeat and everything was still very good, as was her growth curve (right on track from previous ultrasounds, which makes the weight estimates all the more probable) but the aging placenta pretty clearly indicated she needed to come soon.
Armed with that information and around 15 minutes late we hurried to our last appt. of the day, the birth center.
The ultrasound had dated me much closer to my own date of 41 weeks, in fact she was measuring 41w6d and my fundal height was 44 weeks. Kaye, after hearing everything that had gone on, plus the elevated blood pressure and random contractions, decided to call Dr. Schneider and get his recommendation for a hospital induction. She was inclined to induce me right away, so my chances of a vaginal birth would be higher as each subsequent day Callie would get a little bigger and her health would decline a little more. Dr. Schneider agreed with Kaye but thought that we should give me a little more time to go into labor naturally first, and so my appt. on Tuesday with him would be the day he'd do another NST and schedule for induction had I not gone already. Kaye understood his reasoning, but disagreed. However he is the only one who can send to the hospital and have me induced so he holds the cards.
She did decide to kick her efforts to get me off naturally into high gear. I was sent home with an electric breast pump and orders to pump for 1 hour on, 1 hour off several times a night or until contractions started regularly, as well as to run an intensive scheme of black and blue cohosh to get things going on that front.
My blood pressure measured there was 128/84, much closer to normal, which solidified my feelings that these elevated readings I was getting with other people was due to physical activity and nervousness with the unfamiliar practitioners. She proceeded to do a pelvic as well which, unlike all the OTHER ones, ACTUALLY WORKED!
She was feeling my cervix and managed to get her fingers all the way through to do a good sweep, which HURT LIKE HELL! It was extremely uncomfortable because the urge to bear down was SO strong, but she was able to separate the amniotic sac well around the edges and determined I am now 3 cm dilated and a good 70% effaced.
3 cm I will take, for sure!
So all of this stuff today, which has been CRAZY, will hopefully culminate to me going into labor naturally. Callie is MORE than ready, practicing to breathe and everything else, as well as her support organ finally breaking down. And during the 10 minute NST I had three relatively good contractions and have had them in varying degrees on intensity all day today, after having several days of virtually none. So the pump, cohosh, sweep, and Callie being close to ready (aside from not being engaged) could just be the ticket to getting this rolling.
Kaye does think that a pitocin induction at this point is a good idea because the strength of those contractions combined with the readiness of my cervix could very well be enough to move her down. Strong enough contractions should do the trick. So it is looking more like I will try a natural hospital birth or home birth than a c-section.
The only real downside to the pitocin augmented labor as opposed to a normal one is that in order for me to move around while on pitocin or cervadil they will need to have an internal fetal monitor on Callie. That means the scalp electrode, which requires them to break my water. And as well al know breaking my water would put a 24 hour time limit on the labor, before a c-section is done. But with any luck I *will* go before then.
That's the news of the day for friday! As always I will keep everyone posted. Thanks once more for all the positive thoughts and encouragement, they mean a lot to me
Well, lots of news today! I am glad that the mw got the finger sweep in and maybe *fingers crossed* that will get things going for you! It would be great to avoid the pitocin and the fetal monitor I am sure! This weekend may be it though! Good luck to you, you'll be in my thoughts!
How appropriate would it be if she arrived on April Fool's after all that she's put you through!
If it comes to an induction, and you'll need to break the waters for internal monitoring, see if you can hold off on the pit... the loss of your cushioning fluid may well be enough of a boost all on it's own. It was TWICE for me.
That said, I sending you ELV's!!!
hm... I hadn't thought about using the lack of cushion to get labor started... I am generally wary of amniotomies because if they don't work as well as they should they increase labor pain AND can cause need for a c-section, but that is definitely a thought!
I have been having contractions of varying strength the whole evening, so maybe things will get going. The nipple stimulation is TORTURE, but does seem to get things moving more, as does the cohosh. We'll see if anything comes of this, for sure! I am still losing bits of brown tinted plug so thats a good sign from the sweep - - - - maybe these contractions are getting me dilated on their own!
Sounds like things are going to happen soon Taryl. I thought it was odd that they would immdiately jump to a c-section before even trying induction. Just breaking your water could make miss Callie ingage in your pelvis, since there would be loss of fluid. I would at least do the amniotomy before jumping right to a c-section.
I'm so glad you're still heading towards a vaginal birth. That's great!
I agree with Teegs that the water breaking can make everything go into gear. Both times I labored, my labor basically started with my water breaking, and the longer of the two labors was 5 hours 11 minutes. Once that water broke, I had strong, active contractions.
I am so glad to hear that things may be gearing up for you and you have lots of things to try before having to jump to a c/s. I agree with Jennie...I had no labor signs (other than BH ctx which I had the whole pregnancy). Once my water broke, 15 minutes of peace, then zero to 60 in terms of ctx and she was born 4 hrs later. GL!
I hope that does work for ya! Good luck and good thoughts for you
I hope that things start rolling for you soon and Callie decides to come!
Sounds like you have a great plan! I'll be hoping those contrax are opening you up-- wow 3cm-- that is fantastic. It took me hours of hard labor to get to 3cm with my first two kids :wink:.
I'll be thinking of you!!!
Still contracting, but they're irregular even with all the additional measures, so I'll keep hanging out and see what happens. I will talk with my midwife again today, and let her know what has happened (or not, as the case may be) and we'll see where it goes from there. The OB didn't want to try an induction until tuesday, but I am not sure I want to wait that long. Since I am taking Cohosh there is the worry of her spilling meconium in larger amounts than she otherwise would as well as the problems it has already been indicated that she may be having, and keeping her in longer is rapidly losing its advantageous appeal.
Plus, I am worried about dystocia. She was awfully broad on the ultrasound and hand estimates, and isn't getting smaller with subsequent days. I can deliver a chunky baby, but with all these stupid contractions that are STILL not doing anything, it seems, it makes waiting a lot harder.
I bet the little turd is just waiting it out until April Fool's Day... that would fit her personality thus far!
Hi hon! I just checked in and came to the last page and clearly I have a lot of catching up to do! anyway I'm thinking about you & sending lots of hugs & support. fingers & toes all crossed for labour to start soon...
I completely understand your worries Taryl. I was induced at eleven days 'post dates' although more from worries over my health than my daughter's... at least on the dr's end of things... I was a wreck.
I just wanted to let you know that with my middle child, my contractions were regular at 2 minutes apart for the six weeks of prodromal labor I went through. Once I hit active labor, all that predictability went right out the window! Despite what the books and 'professionals' will tell you, sometimes they never get regular. MOST times they do, but it isn't a guarantee.
Since you were already sitting at 3cm, I'm willing to bet that these contractions are indeed making progress. It always seemed to me that dilation was like going sledding. It was so much work to slog through the snow, dragging that sled behind me. Then I got to just the right spot, lingered a while to catch my breath and get ready, then barreled the rest of the way- so much faster than that first part of the trek and SO much more exhilarating.
You can do this. Every contraction is one little bit closer to holding your baby in your arms!
Good news!!!! I went walking this afternoon and had what felt like an almost constant tightness in my abdomen, like a BH that really wouldn't go away much, just ebb and flow, and when I got home it looks like I lost all my plug!!!! YAY!!!!!!!
It was just brown-tinged, so I don't know if it counts as bloody show, but I wouldn't lose globs like that unless something significant was happening to my cervix. YAY!!!!! I will continue on with the nipple stimulation and cohosh and see if anything else happens.
GL taryl!!!! sending ELV's and uncomplicated HB vibes your way!!!
Bravo! Glad to see things progresing. You know I read through this last page to catch up as well - and while I am certainly no expert - with my last son he also had a HUGE swimming pool in there and would not engage. I allowed a pitocin induction and they later needed to apply the scalp monitor because he was moving so much.
Kage arrived about 40 minutes after they broke my water. And I firmly believe it was because of the amniotomy - not the pitocin.
I am so glad to see things moving along for you!!!!
You're doing great!
ELV, Taryl! Come on out, Callie!
Me thinks no news is good news!
I was thinking the same thing!
Good luck, Taryl - I hope all is going well!
Oh Taryl, I'm on the edge of my seat for you! I hope things are progressing well for you and sending you lots of (((((ELV)))))
Just checking in and hoping that Callie decided to come today! Good luck and Easy Labor Vibes!
Thinking of you Taryl... did Callie decide she wanted to be an April Fool's baby?
I'm stalking your lodge big time Taryl, hoping for good news soon!
Wouldn't an April Fool's Jester be fun!
Come out and play, Callie! I'm not joking!
I hope little Miss Callie is on her way. Taryl...praying for your labor.
Just checking to see how you are doing! Good luck to you Taryl, hope we hear good news from you soon!
ok, I guess I'm officially stalking. forgive me, I'm excited for you.
Sending good thoughts!
Just caught up Taryl! Sounds like things are going well. Thought of you all weekend and hope things are going well.
I too am anxiously awaiting an update. I hope everything is super and little Callie is here or on her way!
I have to admit that I have officially started stalking this lodge as well.
I keep thinking about you and hope thing are going in the right direction for you.
Taryl, honey, I am thinking about you! I am going to be offline for the next 2 days for Passover, and I hope to read all about Callie's birth when I get back!
Sending you love and lots of ELV's
Thinking of you hon... xo Robin
Yeah Taryl! I am so glad that things are looking good! I can't wait for the news!
No news since Saturday... Here's hoping you are too busy with Callie to log on.
Looks like you have quite the collection of Lodge stalkers, too.