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I saw you were at 36 weeks Nicole and wanted to start your lodge! Congrats on making it to your last month!

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Wow, I think its so awesome we have so many NCB August mamas! Congrats Nicole and welcome to your lodge!!

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I was trying to do the math last week and figure out when to open your lodge! I'm glad somebody caught you! Welcome to the homestretch!!

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Welcome to your lodge!!

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Congrats on your lodge, Nicole!

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Congrats on making it to the home stretch and welcome to you lodge, Nicole!

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Welcome to your lodge Nicole!! I love see all these August mama's!! Looking forward to following your journey!! Wink

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Yay!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to read your intro!!!!!!!!!

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Aw, thanks so much Conni, what a sweetie you are Biggrin And thanks everyone! Yeah, I am seriously still in denial that I'm this close to the end. No time for an intro now, I am exhausted today and in need of a nap! I'll try for later tonight or tomorrow. Biggrin

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Welcome to your lodge! I can't wait to hear your intro! Biggrin

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Welcome to your lodge! Looking forward to your intro Smile

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Allrighty.....

I will do my best to add some pics later, b/c I have no clue how to find them on the laptop here. :rolleyes:

First of all, I'm so honored to be a part of this board and have a lodge. This board is so awesome, I have learned SO much in the last year or so that I've been lurking/posting. So many wise women here!

Anyway....where to begin!

INTRO
DH and I have been together, as a couple, for almost 10 years now. We were set up by mutual friends (sort of a semi-blind date) and had our first date on September 4, 1998. Wow, does that seem long ago or what? I keep thinking it was just a few years ago, but here we are at our almost-10 year anniversary. Anyway, we had our first date at this super-cheezy dance bar that I would never have gone to normally, but alas, that's where his friends normally would go. LOL It was pretty much an instant mutual connection and we have been inseparable ever since. Biggrin

Dated a couple years and then he proposed a few days before Christmas 2000. Is it bad that I don't remember the exact date? LOL It was either the 22nd or 23rd of December. Anyway, we initially wanted a Fall 2001 wedding, but after re-evaluating our (lack of) finances, we ended up bumping the date to June 2002. I remember when that seemed SOOOO far away!

So we were married June 8, 2002. It was the PERFECT day. Seriously, everything was just amazing, and exactly the way we wanted it. It was just a wonderful, happy, fun day for both of us.

I thought I was totally ready to have a baby soon, but being that we were only 24, I knew there was no good reason to rush, and DH wanted to wait a few years anyway.

TTC
So we just enjoyed being young newleyweds for a little while, and then I went off BCP in December 2003, intending to chart a la TCOYF, and use backup birth control for a year, to see what my cycles would do. They had always been wacky and irregular, so I wanted to let them normalize as much as possible before officially TTC in December 2004.

However, in August 2004, we had a surprise pregnancy. OK, it was only a semi-surprise. Wink I was charting, we took a chance one night and alas, BFP. We were stunned, but so excited! Unfortunately, I miscarried at 7 weeks. I was devastated. Just a big rollercoaster of emotions.

So, we decided to wait a few months for my body to recover and stick to our original plan of starting to TTC in December. This is also where we naively assumed that since I'd gotten pregnant without really trying once already, that it would happen again that easily! Um, yeah, wrong.

ALICIA
Ten-ish months later, still no BFP. We were doing everything "right" and it wasn't happening. I was so upset about this. Finally got a referral to a GYN to do the whole gamut of testing and whatnot. This appointment was booked in September for the end of November. While I was waiting, I decided to try acupuncture. Found an acupuncturist near me who had a great reputation for helping with infertility. Went in on October 17th for my first appointment. Happened to be ovulating that day. I told the Dr. this and he said he'd do a few extra points to "spike" my ovulation. We ended up conceiving DD that night! Two weeks later got the beautiful BFP!

Continued to see the acu. throughout the pregnancy to prevent a m/c. The rest of the pregnancy was a breeze, my worst complaints being heartburn and a sore back. I really had an easy time.

Now, I have DD's birth story typed up......somewhere. :rolleyes: Must be on the downstairs computer? So I'll just summarize here. Wink

ALICIA'S BIRTH STORY
Baby was super low and I was 1-2 cm dilated from about 36 weeks on. The Saturday morning before my due date, I woke up to a smallish bit of what I think was the mucus plug. Had a teensy, tiny speck of pink in it. I would've missed it if I hadn't been looking for it. Anyway, I carried on and went to my friend's bridal shower as I had planned. Had lots of BH throughout the day, as I'd had for the last few months.

When I got home from the shower at about 5 pm, I decided to time the ctx, just for kicks. Blum 3 They were 5 minutes apart. I sat and bounced on the birth ball for a while. We just hung out at home that evening, with me alternately bouncing on the ball and walking up and down our long hallway. Managed to convince DH that this might be it, and he really should go have a shower, pack a bag, and eat something!

Ctx continued at 5 min from about 5 pm until about 11:30 pm when we decided to leave for the hospital. DH tried to convince me it was too early but I wouldn't listen! The ctx were strong, but not painful.

Of course, by the time we got checked into the hospital the ctx had all but stopped. :rolleyes: They still put me on the monitor for a while, and said nothing much was happening. The nurse sort of chuckled and said "No, dear, you're not in labour. You can go home now." :rolleyes:

So, following Murphy's Law, on the ride home, the ctx picked up again. By the time we got home, I was in a lot of pain, and just wanted to lay in my own bed. Well DH conked right out but I got no sleep. Ctx were 5 min or less apart, and much more painful now. After a while, I went to the living room to try and find a comfortable position. Spent a few hours in there, and somehow managed to sleep for a few minutes in between ctx. I kept thinking, well if this isn't labour, then how am I going to cope when the real thing hits? Suddenly, I was woken up by my water breaking! Yikes, what a feeling that was. Unreal, just like a huge water balloon, with a major gush.

I ran (OK, waddled) to the bathroom, yelling for Shane to wake up - he is a heavy sleeper! Stood in the bathtub until he figured out what was going on. Anyway, that was 5 am, and after I showered, we headed to the hospital again. I was 4 cm and they confirmed that the membranes were ruptured. I had wanted to avoid the epidural, but in retrospect, I feel that I wasn't prepared enough. The pain started to really shake my confidence, and scare me actually. DH was scared of it too, I think, and didn't know how to comfort/encourage me. So I asked for the epi. Didn't know what else to do or try. If only someone had told me not to lie in bed, to move around, try a shower, something like that! Oh, there are so many things I wish I'd done differently!

Anyway, luckily I had a very good epidural experience. The doc was quick, and apparantly, quite skilled. I was totally pain-free within 10 minutes. DH went down to get some breakfast, and I tried to sleep (didn't happen). A couple hours later, I was at 9.5 cm. Thank goodness my body was still able to dilate as it should. By 12:20 pm they had me start pushing. I pushed as well as I could, but couldn't feel anything! I kept saying that I didn't even know if I was pushing or not, it was difficult and frustrating. No one ever said they could turn down the epi to help me! Grrrrrr..... Anyway, pushed for 2 hours, and they said she was hardly moving down. So they called in the OB and the forceps. Sad A couple of quick pushes with the salad tongs and Alicia was born at 2:34 pm, July 9, 2006, at 39w5d.

I wound up with a 4th degree tear thanks to those forceps, and my poor girl was quite bruised all over her jaws/cheeks. Sad At some point in those first few months after her birth, I got so angry that I'd suffered this injury when I probably could have avoided it. I was mad at myself for caving and getting the epi, and mad at the whole system for not helping me avoid this injury. I knew there had to be a better way.

Oy, it's super late, and my brain is fried. I think I'll have to continue this later. As if it wasn't long enough already!! Ugh, I'm such a rambler.

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I enjoyed your intro. It looks like you'll be able to learn from your first birth to make better or more confident choices in this one!

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I enjoyed reading your intro as well Nicole! I'm so sorry that Alicia's birth in the end was so tramatic! Since hearing your story I've had at least one friend also have kind of a tramatic birth at that same hospital - apparently they are kind of known for it. I'm just so glad for you that it didn't end up in a section! What a difference your homebirth is going to be! I'm so excited for you! How are you feeling these days?

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Welcome to your lodge - sorry about the not so great pushing experience. This time will be much better ;)!

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Wow. Only a few days in and I'm already slacking on my own lodge! :rolleyes:

I'm still going to try to "finish" the rest of my intro and get pics up here at some point.

For now, though......had my 36 week appt yesterday. All is well. Biggrin Very normal, boring and uneventful appt. Yay! We all know that boring is a good thing in pregnancy. I've gained about 27 pounds so far. I think I gained 33 total with Alicia. Baby's HR was 140, and he/she is lying LOT. Actually I think this little turkey switches from LOT to ROT several times a day! Alicia was LOT and stayed put for the last month or so.

And tonight, we had the first of our prenatal class series. I wasn't expecting to do prenatal classes again this time around, but these are taught by our MW at her office. It's just 3 other couples, and it focuses (obviously) on natural birth and homebirth. She goes over the options that you have with the baby, like Vit K, the eye drops, stuff like that, so that you can decide if you want them. She also talks about what supplies you need, she shows you what supplies she brings, what to expect from a homebirth, etc.

So tonight was the first class, and wouldn't you know it, our MW was called to a birth! So it was led by one of her backup midwives instead. It was great, the other couples were super friendly - it's the first homebirth for all of us. It was a very casual setup - even DH who is normally so quiet and reserved, was chiming in and asking questions and stuff.

Well, I'd better be getting to my Hypnobabies! Have to do some practising scripts with DH before bed.

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What a great intro! I'm sorry that Alicia's birth was so traumatic. I cannot wait to continue to follow your journey!!!!!! Go July Cutie Pies and August Sunbeams!!!!!!!!

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welcome to your lodge!!! Sorry to hear about the bad pushing experience.

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Welcome to your lodge!!!

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Great intro. I'm so sorry that your first birth was traumatic. I truly believe that this one will be different! I'm so happy you are having a homebirth! I can't wait to hear about your birth! Biggrin

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What a great intro, even if it is unfinished Smile I really hope you have a great homebirth. Are you going to try water labor/birthing?

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Finally read your intro!!
Can't wait to follow your story!

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OK, so the story of this pregnancy......

Decided to TTC #2 during the summer of 07, and AF cooperated nicely and returned for the first time at 11 months postpartum (June 07). So we tried for a couple months, and then conceived in September. We were so suprised that it happened so fast, but unfortunately, it turned out to be a chemical pg/early miscarriage. Sad

It seems to take me a good 7-8 weeks for the first AF after a m/c, so we waited for that, and then TTC again during the first real cycle - November/December. Decided to hit the acupuncturist again this cycle to give it a real good shot - and it worked! I saw the acu. shortly after ovulating at the beginning of December, and conceived that cycle. I am just so amazed at how well my body responds to acupuncture. My acupuncturist thinks it's awesome too!

Anyway, the first trimester was HARD. I felt more exhausted for 10 straight weeks than I ever imagined was possible. I can't even describe how I felt. It was the only time in 2 whole pregnancies that I actually wished I wasn't pregnant. Sad It was utterly depressing. Somehow, I made it to the second trimester when I finally felt like myself again! It was amazing! Whew, you have no idea how happy I was to reach that 2nd tri. Biggrin

So the rest of the pregnancy has been pretty uneventful. Heartburn, back pain, just that usual stuff. Had a textbook perfect u/s at 21 weeks. My tailbone has been giving me a rough time so I've been seeing a Webster-certified chiropractor regularly since 28 weeks. She is an awesome lady - a mama of 3, including one born at home :D. Baby's been in great positioning, and apparantly my tailbone and pelvis are doing great too LOL.

I seem to be prone to the BH ctx - have had them since probably 18ish weeks. They are definitely getting stronger. I'm starting to have spurts of several hours where they'll come close together (5-10 minutes) and then taper off. Also having lots of the menstrual-cramp type of feeling, which I never had with DD, but I hear so many moms say they've had that feeling.

A few nights ago, I was up half the night with very consistent, intense, ctx. Couldn't sleep, restless, achey back and crampy feeling. I was starting to get a little worried that something was starting!

We've been doing a lot of preparing and organizing this weekend. I believe my birth supplies are almost set. We got the birth pool yesterday too! Inflated it, it looks great. Biggrin I am super excited to soak in there during labour. It's just the little fishy aquarium pool, nothing fancy, but I'm sure it'll be perfect.

I haven't actually said yet, I guess, but obviously this is a planned homebirth :D. The pool is there, but I am not committing to a waterbirth at this point. I will decide when it's time to push, LOL. I'll definitely labour in the water though.

Our MW is awesome. She has such a great reputation in our city for being the best. Even my family doc, who is pretty NCB-friendly, said I made a great choice and was in good hands.

Our home visit is planned for this Wednesday, so that'll be fun. My mom will be here for the home visit, to meet Barb (MW). My mom is going to be a labour support for me, in addition to DH of course, so it'll be nice for them to meet ahead of time.

This feels like a disjointed post. Sorry! It's late, what can I say? Wink

Tomorrow I am fullterm! But, baby, if you're listening, we still need at least a week to get ourselves ready, so don't come out this week! Although my parents think the 08-08-08 birthday would be great. I'd rather it be a little bit later than that!

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I wish you all the best for your homebirth Smile

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I loved reading your intro! Good luck with the homebirth.

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Sounds like everything is in order. I hope your birth goes perfectly! I get more of the menstrual cramps than the BH ctxs.

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Great intro! I hope LO stays put for at least another week. After that, fair game, right? Wink

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I've been getting the menstral cramps as well. Not consistant at all...just occasionally. Can't wait for your homebirth!

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Sounds like a good pregnancy, all the best with your home birth

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I am so excited to hear about your HB! Sounds like you are getting close:D

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Great intro!

Welcome to your lodge! I look forward to following your homebirth story:D

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Glad I got to read your story. Sounds like things are progressing so much better this time around. Yay accupuncture Smile

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Over the weekend, I had a second night of consistent, intense crampy ctx. It was so weird, I would have sworn I was getting AF. That's just exactly what it felt like. That real heavy, achey crampy sensation. Radiated up my back and down my thighs too. I never had that sort of feeling with DD, so this is kinda interesting to me - I'm curious to see how things play out!

I think I might be starting to lose my plug too. Not all in one chunk, just little bits here and there. I did have the same with DD, in the last week before she was born I believe.

I forgot to mention I am doing Hynobabies for this birth! I am enjoying it, but I do feel like a slacker in that I am not practising as much as I should. :confused: Ugh. It's just like school all over again! I'm not doing my homework. :rolleyes:

Supposed to be a very hot week here. I'm not much of a summer person to begin with so I'm not looking forward to this! I just can't tolerate the heat for very long. I live in Western Canada, and very few people have central a/c here. We just have fans LOL. I much prefer cooler, rainy weather - I totally should have been born in Vancouver I guess!

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OK, I know I've been a total slacker with the pics, but here are a couple!

Wedding Day June 8, 2002

Yesterday, 37 weeks
Crappy photo, but the best of the bunch we took. DH nearly cut my head off LOL.

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Great pictures! Your belly is adorable. I have never noticed losing my MP in either pregnancy. Along with the cramping, it sounds like a great sign that your body is getting in the birthing groove.

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Aw you look awesome Nicole! This heat is something else isn't it! I don't envy the pregnancy during summer at all! Hey you and Alicia should bring suits over tomorrow if we're still on for lunch - we have one of those 15ft soft sided pools. I bet it would feel really good and the kids would love it! (Not to mention tire them out for their naps ;))

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Your wedding portrait is beautiful! So is your belly. Smile

Loved reading your story. I can't wait to hear more about the homebirth! I'm right there with you on the menstrual cramping. Weird, huh? Good luck and thanks for the kick to keep practicing hypnobabies!

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Conni, hmmm....the pool does sound nice I must say. I'll see if I can dig up my bathing suit.....

So I had my MW home visit this morning. Went very well! My mom was there, she was so impressed with our MW, Barb. She's just one of those people who's so friendly and it feels like you've known her forever the first time you meet. Alicia had lots of fun putting the gel on the doppler (that's "her" job) and then proceeded to listen to her doll's heartbeat as well. Biggrin Still waiting on the GBS results, she hadn't received them back yet. I was negative last time, and this time I've done the probiotics/garlic/echinacea/Vit C routine, so I'm really hoping it'll be negative again. Although I'm fortunate in that if I do choose the abx, it won't change my homebirth at all. Barb can just give me the IV at home while I'm labouring. I've heard some say that being postive will exclude them from a homebirth, so I'm glad that's not the case for me.

Baby's been quiet today. Maybe it's the heat LOL! I've still got a few last minute things to get in order for the homebirth. Still wondering about what food to have around. If there was a 24 hour grocery store around here, it wouldn't be an issue - I'd just send someone out for some fresh buns and deli meats or something like that. But we have nothing of the sort. The stupid thing is my BIL/SIL who live in a little town of 6000 about 5 hours away have a 24 hours grocery store less than 5 minutes from their house. Here I live in a city of just under a million and we don't have anything like that! Ah well. I'll figure something out I guess.

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Hi Nicole :wavehello: As usual I'm the last one to get caught up lol, but just wanted to welcome you to your lodge and add my support hoping you get a better birth experience this time around. Glad you found a MW you really connect with!

And I hear ya on the heat! I'm in Edmonton where it is 28C today, which is about as hot as I like it, but supposed to be hotter over the next few days. Definately deserving of some sort of frozen treat! :icecream:

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Over the weekend, I had a second night of consistent, intense crampy ctx. It was so weird, I would have sworn I was getting AF. That's just exactly what it felt like. That real heavy, achey crampy sensation. Radiated up my back and down my thighs too. I never had that sort of feeling with DD, so this is kinda interesting to me - I'm curious to see how things play out!

I am getting the exact same thing! I was going to post something about this...but at least once a day I get the feeling AF is here. Guess it's normal?!

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You look great in your pics!! Such a great belly Smile

Good luck with your homebirth prep - sounds like you're almost ready!

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I am getting the exact same thing! I was going to post something about this...but at least once a day I get the feeling AF is here. Guess it's normal?!

I have heard lots of moms on here talk about AF-like symptoms, whether in relation to the last few weeks of pregnancy, or actual early labour. So it's a good sign, but it's too bad that we can't know if it means labour will come tomorrow, or 3 weeks from now!

Anyway, we had a fun day today! We had a lovely lunch/playdate with Conni (Conch06 on these boards) who lives just 10ish minutes from me. We both have July 06 babies but have never met before. It was lots of fun for the little ones and we got to hang out in her pool, which was awesome b/c it was super hot today! Thanks again Conni! Biggrin

This evening we had our second prenatal class. This was an interesting one - our MW showed us all her medical equipment that she brings to the birth, went over emergency childbirth (how to catch the baby if she doesn't make it in time!), and talked about the supplies we need to get (which I've already bought).

We brought home a birth video that I'm hoping to get Alicia to watch. I don't think I want her in the room while I'm labouring, but I think it'd be great to have her there as the baby is actually being born. I think it'll help her understand that this baby didn't just appear in our bedroom, that it actually came out of mommy, and that this is the baby we've been talking about for so long.:) I've showed her some birth videos on Youtube before, but I was looking for some the other day and it seems they've taken a lot of them down! Every time I clicked on one, it would say "Sorry, this video is no longer available". What the heck? :confused:

Anyway, I'll be doing my best to not melt in the heat for the next few days. *sigh* Baby was pretty quiet all day - but has been making up for it this evening. There's quite a party going on in there. Blum 3

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Hi Nicole :wavehello: As usual I'm the last one to get caught up lol, but just wanted to welcome you to your lodge and add my support hoping you get a better birth experience this time around. Glad you found a MW you really connect with!

And I hear ya on the heat! I'm in Edmonton where it is 28C today, which is about as hot as I like it, but supposed to be hotter over the next few days. Definately deserving of some sort of frozen treat! :icecream:

Hi Shella! I'm in Edmonton too, as is Conni, as you've already figured out no doubt. Wink Small world! And it looks like your little guy is around the same age as our July 06 babies. Nice to have more Albertans around here. Biggrin Hope you stay cool this weekend!

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Nicole your pics are lovely. Hope you get to stay cooled off Smile

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Nicole it was so fun meeting you and Alicia! What a sweet little girl you have! I can't wait to see what this next one is going to be! How does Alicia respond to the videos on youtube? That's great that you can show her before hand what's going to be happening.

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I enjoyed your intro and I look forward to reading your birth story!

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Great intro and pics - you are a beautiful preggo! Stay cool mama! Looking forward to your homebirth story.:D

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Your belly is a beauty!! Hopefully those pesky AF-like cramps are gearing you up for labor. I get those every so often as well.

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Conni - A few months ago I showed Alicia a very uncensored homebirth video on youtube - like I think the camera was set up right in front of the mom's crotch LOL. It was very obvious where the baby was coming from. Alicia was mesmerized and stared at it for the entire 5 minutes (from just before crowning to birth). I think she was really quite intrigued. Biggrin

But since then, I've showed her other videos and she is only partially interested, at least until the baby emerges and then she's all smitten with the new baby. Biggrin

So..... not too much happening here. Trying to stay cool. The heartburn is killing me slowly, day by day. Honestly, it seems to get worse every day. I hate having to take Zantac so much but OMG I just have to take something for it.

I swear this baby is burrowing LOL! Baby will brace his/her bum and feet and then push it's head into my cervix! That's what it feels like anyway. Tons of twingy/stabbing pains. I keep joking that he must have smuggled a toothpick in there and is stabbing away at me. :rolleyes: Eeeek. Not terribly comfortable.

Mentally, I am in no hurry for this baby to be born. I know how special this time is -when I have him/her all to myself. Soon enough I'll have to share this baby with the rest of the world!

But physically, well, it would be nice to feel normal again. Although "normal" certainly takes a while to return after the birth, IMO. Oh, to sleep on my tummy though, that would be nice. And the heartburn, can't wait to be rid of that.

So I'll just take it one day at a time. It'll happen when it happens!

As a side note, I'm watching the Olympic fencing right now. It's sort of a bizarre sport, I've always thought. I don't quite understand how it works! They're wearing these helmet/face masks that have digital light pads that light up in either red or green/yellow. What does it all mean? When they are practising, why are the players tethered to the walls with these springy cord things? Seriously, does anyone understand this sport?

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"Panonim" wrote:

As a side note, I'm watching the Olympic fencing right now. It's sort of a bizarre sport, I've always thought. I don't quite understand how it works! They're wearing these helmet/face masks that have digital light pads that light up in either red or green/yellow. What does it all mean? When they are practising, why are the players tethered to the walls with these springy cord things? Seriously, does anyone understand this sport?

NOPE!!
I heart the olympics though, and I don't watch sports any other time.

I am also getting those sharp pains on the cervix! your my symptom twin :).

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Hi Nicole, hope that heartburn lets up for you soon. I'm "feeling the burn" as well, and it SUCKS!

I don't think anyone understands fencing. They just stab at each other and assign points randomly LOL.

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