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~*~Elizabeth's (rainymama) Birth Lodge~*~

Welcome to your lodge! Busy time of year around here:)

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Wow, there's a lot of babies on the way! Welcome to your lodge!

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intro and 1st birth story - long!!!

Hi! I am excited for another lodge. Funny how it comes around just in time, right when I really feel like I need to talk about birth since I am thinking about it 24 hours a day. So...it seems like everyone was posting an intro.

My husband Matt and I have been married for 10 years this June. We met each other the previous August through church. He helped me, along with some other people, move apartments. We went to various things together, but first just saw each other around with the same group of people. He took me to a Jim Brickman concert in October. I think that may have been our first "real date." We were for sure dating exclusively after that.
Over Christmas break (he was a 2nd year med student and I was working) he had gone home to visit his family and we planned for me to fly there on Christmas day to meet his family. I really missed him when he had left before me. His parents were very nice, his brothers were crazy (I don't have any) and his sister was really friendly. I remember packing some chocolate candy in my backpack, just in case there wasn't any around at his house (yes, i am a chocoholic) and I couldn't believe that there was chocolate and cookies everywhere. It's because it was Christmas and his mom baked a lot and people brought them a lot of stuff. I thought, ok, these people are ok! We had a good time.

When we got back to "reality" we had kind of a tense January, because I really was ready for him to propose, and he was deep in thought about it. Finally, we went out for Valentine's day and we had the "I love you" conversation and we both came clean and realized we both wanted to get married. He was much more himself again after that, and it was all fun!!! We went back to his home state (Utah) over his spring break to plan our wedding, which would be in June. We also had some planning to do for the reception we would have in Wisconsin, also. Two receptions, two weeks apart, with the honeymoon between. All went well, with very few bumps in the road. A few, but nothing with us, it was all family stuff. We got married in the Manti Temple (LDS), which was where I had wanted to get married for several years (before I knew him). It was a windy but beautiful day. We took our honeymoon as a road trip to Glacier Nat'l Park, ventured up into Canada a bit, and eventually drove to Arkansas so he could meet my very old grandparents.

As soon as we returned home and had our 2nd reception, life hit hard. He started 3rd year of med school on OB/Gyn rotations, was gone overnight, and he of course moved into my apartment which he wanted us to move out of to find a cheaper one. We moved to a cheaper one that next month and also became pregnant with our DD1 that month. I was able to work about 6 or 7 weeks into the pregnancy, and then I developed hyperemesis. I was hospitalized a couple of times. I had become so weak that i could barely move around our apartment. I had a friend or my mom drive me to OB appts. I remember the OB asking me if I had eaten anything that day and I told him I had "licked the salt off of a Saltine." Yeah, it was straight for the IV at that point. It was a loooong 9 months. For both of us. He certainly didn't expect to had a wife completely out of commission. And I didn't expect to have a husband gone for long hours as school plus he had a very very busy church responsibility given to him the day after we returned from our honeymoon. Plus we had the snowiest winter on record in our lifetime and he had to shovel the apartment complex sidewalks and parking lot before work and after he returned home. Mostly, both of those were in the dark. That defined that winter. Dark. I could not really get out of bed and was throwing up constantly.

Well, this has been a long intro, but the light at the end of the tunnel is that we had our beautiful baby girl that May. Our current baby's "guess date" is her 9th birthday. As far as her birth goes, at that time the only thing I had heard about natural childbirth was Bill Cosby's rendition of it. I was induced with cervadil, then the next morning the Pitocin, the artificial ROM with the hook, the epidural where I couldn't feel a thing (at 6 cm) but I did push her out very well. The OB did give me an episiotomy, which I was not aware of at the time, and wasn't even aware that it may be undesirable.

I planned on nursing her, and I did that in the hospital, but when we got home and I was all alone with her, i just couldn't get her to latch on. I took her in to the lactation consultants and she latched on great there. But at home again, I couldn't do it right. We would both cry and cry. I pumped into bottles for her instead. That was a lot of work! Well, as I was busy taking care of her, and starting to feel like myself again after so long of feeling crummy, the last thing i was thinking of was being pregnant again. But....lo and behold, stranger things have happened. I would take my DD out for a walk in the stroller nearly every day, and soon I realized that I would come home and feel nauseous. I thought at first that i was just getting overheated, but then i went in to my OB office. I went there because I had not really stopped my postpartem bleeding, and I was wondering when i would stop, plus the nauseous feeling. Well, they said "Congratulations! You are pregnant!" What?!?!?! Our DD was about 3 months old, which means I had gotten pg again at about 8 wks pp or so. The sad part is that they did an US in the office and there were twins there. but one little twin did not have a heartbeat. They said it was early and that the heartbeat may show up in a day or two, or not. It turns out, it did not. Well, we were so very surprised, and also I was scared to death of how I would take care of a baby when the morning sickness hit. Which it did, of course. But we managed. i don't really know how. I threw up constantly, but i managed to not get as dehydrated that time.

Our 1st baby was proving to be a rough one. she was colicky and cried SO MUCH. We used to run the vacuum cleaner to get her to stop crying for a while. Or take her for car rides. I should mention that 4th year of med school wasn't quite as rough as 3rd year. When our DD was 8 months old we took a long road trip to interview for residency programs. Luckily she didn't mind the car. When she was 8 months old I was about 7 months pg. I would strap her in the baby bjorn to check out of our hotel rooms with the suitcases and stuff, since DH would have left early in the morning for his interviews. We went all over the country. I was pretty much over the m/s at that point luckily. I will save the birth story for the next post since this one has become very very long!!!

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Oh you poor thing- I can't imagine getting pregnant again so fast and with twins!!
ETA: Can't wait to hear the next birth story!

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Welcome to your lodge! :wavehello:

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Wow, what an intro!! You are a strong woman! Welcome to your lodge!

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Elizabeth! Welcome to your lodge! I'm so excited for you! I enjoyed reading your intro--your first pregnancy sounds like it was really rough, and then to get pregnant again so fast! wow.

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Your oldest sounds a lot like mine. Horrible m/s (mine was not quite as bad as yours, but close), very similar birth, and she was a colicky baby and fussy nurser too who would fake out the LC and then cry on the breast at home.

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2nd birth story

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Your oldest sounds a lot like mine. Horrible m/s (mine was not quite as bad as yours, but close), very similar birth, and she was a colicky baby and fussy nurser too who would fake out the LC and then cry on the breast at home.

Yeah, those little stinkers!!!! I've heard it called "smart baby" since they know they don't have to work so hard to get the milk from the bottle.

I am very excited because I just went to my DH's work where the tech gave me a super-quick US to check for breech and - NO BREECH! Yay!! HypnoBabies full steam ahead! And no peeking for the OB tomorrow!!! I will meet my OB for the first time tomorrow. Her routine is to give all moms a 36-wk US to check for breech and baby weight. I have mentioned before that there is no way I want an estimate of baby weight. My last two have been big, and I don't want it hanging over my head. So i can politely refuse the US and also feel good about it.

Birth Story for DD2:

So I mentioned in my intro that we were interviewing for residency programs. Match Day was mid-March and she was due April 11th. We found out that we were going to be going to Des Moines, IA, and we would be leaving in June. We needed a place to live when we got there. We wanted to buy a small house, our first. The choice for us was to either have DH go without me and leave me home with two babies and buy something without my input (not ideal), go with the newborn after she was born (not ideal) or hurry quick and go to look at houses before she was born. Then we could leave DD1 (10 months old) with my parents, and just have a nice weekend the two of us, looking at houses and like a last-minute babymoon. It was a 6 hr drive for us. Since I had been induced with my first, I figured we were safe, plus the OB had checked me and there was no dilation.

The day before we left I said to DH "Should we take a baby carseat? Just in case?" And he replied, "If you think we should take the carseat, then we probably shouldn't go!" Of course, all of our planning with the realtor and figuring out what we wanted to see and accomplish, and given our other choices, we just went ahead with our plans. We drove there in the afternoon, had Subway for dinner, listened to Neil Diamond in the car (we both grew up listening to our parents' Neil Diamond records), and checked into the motel, ready to meet the realtor the next morning. We picked that particular motel because they had an old recliner they could put in our room, since I was only sleeping in a recliner by that point., I was 38 weeks.

At 7am I woke up to a HUGE GUSH!!!!!! Holy cow!!!!! Ummmm, honey???? My water just broke!!!! DH was in TOTAL DENIAL. It's funny looking back on it now. He totally thought I had wet myself. Of course, that could have happened, I guess. I got up and immediately went to the shower, where I continued leaking fluid. i was not having contractions, that I recall. I showered, and dressed, and I don't remember having any pads or anything. i remember using toilet paper all folded up in my underwear, which does NOT stay put, by the way. We walked down to the lobby to have some cereal, and every time I shifted I would leak more. We talked about our options. Should we cancel the realtor? Should we drive home? (6 hours) Should we just continue on with our day? Well, we were already this far, and I was not in any discomfort, so we decided to continue on with our plans.

The realtor was a woman, thank goodness. She met us at the motel, where we had to confess our situation. I sat on a blanket in her leather-seated Cadillac and she drove us to the drugstore so I could go in and get some pads and use the bathroom again. We commenced on our house-hunting. We saw several houses that I barely remember. I did have to use in the bathroom in one of them, which I felt bad about, and I started to have bloody show, if I remember right. And the contractions were beginning, but I wasn't timing yet. At one point we called my OB and told him where we were and what was going on. They didn't have much advice to give, and we told him that we were close to my DH's hospital for residency. I remember seeing the house we eventually purchased. Then timing the contractions. The realtor was so amazing! She was so patient and calm. As they contractions became more uncomfortable we called DH's new residency director, said we were there, and that his wife was in labor. He told us where to go, and there were people meeting us there. We got there, triaged, admitted, and from there it was a huge blur except for certain moments.

This is what I remember: (traumatic and not NCB inspiring...be warned)
I remember getting an epidural that was all on one side. I remember them saying they couldn't turn it up. I remember there being a LOT of people in the room. I remember the OB worrying about baby's decels on the monitor. i remember them putting in an internal monitor. And still being worried. I remember confusion, chaos, pain, anxiety, fear...the OB trying to get me to push in side-lying, which I had never heard of, and was very uncomfortable with, and I do NOT remember the moment of her birth. But I remember she had the cord around her neck once or twice.
It's sad to me that I don't remember her actually being born.
The placenta was not born well, the OB had to manually remove it (very painful) with several passes in there.

From there, it got better.
She was healthy, 7 lbs 7 oz, and cute as a button. Labor was about 9 hours from the time my water broke.
We named her after the Neil Diamond song we had sung the night before.
She was nursing wonderfully. I had read all the nursing books I could get my hands on during that pg, determined not to "fail" again. (I wanted to nurse more than anything).
And the people from his residency program were the kindest, most generous people. Since I had soaked my own clothing, i was lent clothing, nursing bras, everything, to wear home. Someone lent us an infant carseat, baby clothes, blankets, and everything we needed.
The day after she was born the realtor brought the house-buying papers to the hospital to sign while she held the baby.

We left the hospital the day after that with a new baby girl. It took us 12 hours to get home. Stopping to nurse, stopping for me to walk around, etc. The nurse suggested that we take formula with us, and I refused it. We were going to do this!!! When we arrived home to my parent's house, it was about 11pm and the power was out. We spent the night, gathered our baby girls, newborn and 10 1/2months, and went home sweet home.

Our first dd had jaundice that became quite high, and was admitted for phototherapy. Our 2nd dd had jaundice, also, but was able to be treated at home with a bili-blanket. The adjustment was a little rough, to caring for two little ones like that. i remember holding them both and all of us crying. But there were many wonderful things, also. Nursing was very painful, but I did not give up. When she was 3 months old we moved to our house in Iowa, away from my parents, so we had to really get good at fending for ourselves, with DH in residency working 80-100 hrs every week. She ended up nursing for 13 months. Which was the very month I became pg again.

I will write about that one later!

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Wow, what a story!! :eek:

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Welcome to our lodge! I am loving reading your birth stories so far & can't wait to follow your journey.

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Wow!! That's quite a story!

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That birth story is crazy! I can just imagine you, leaking fluids, walking around looking at houses. Can't wait to hear more!

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birth story #3

Thanks to all of you who are reading my crazy posts. It feels wonderful to share.
Tomorrow morning I meet my OB...and I would assume also have the GBS swab. Ew, but I guess it's important. The good thing is like I said, no US. Hopefully she will be in the office and not at the hospital, but if someone else is having her baby, that's the way it goes.

So, I was mentioning that I was pg when dd2 stopped nursing. I was thinking about timing, and I must have become pg when she was 12 months old, not 13 months old. That was honestly not a pg I was ready for but did not try to prevent. In a different way from the 2nd pg. The 2nd pg was a complete surprise to both of us. The 3rd pg was that my DH didn't think we ought to be preventing and I eventually agreed. And it didn't take much trying.
When dd2 was 13 months DH and I decided to take a little trip and leave the girls with my parents. We went to some history sites in NY and OH, as well as Niagara Falls. We had driven from IA, dropped off the girls in WI, and kept going, with a tearful goodbye from me to my girls. I had to call about 2 or 3 times a day to talk to them. We didn't know I was pg yet. But...I had cravings for spicy pizza, buffalo wings (NY is a good place to get those!) and other spicy things I normally do not want. And I didn't want any sugar. It was a really great trip. Not too many days long, but we had a great time together.

On the way home, actually, about 30 minutes from arriving back at my parents, we had to stop at a gas station so I could use the bathroom. I was really sick! It was shortly after we returned home from IA that we realized I was pg again.!! This pg was not as bad from a m/s standpoint, although I had it, certain foods would really help, like ham sandwiches. Strange.

The trial of that pg was that about halfway through I developed a stabbing pain in my left side. When it happened, I was down for the count. Sometimes it would last a few hours, and sometimes longer. Eventually, the pain was causing me to throw up. We went to the hospital and received terrible care. They assumed it was a kidney stone. Did a straight cath. (not fun). It was clean. Sent me home anyways, without a doctor even looking at me or talking to me. Eventually they gave me pain meds. And eventually they did as US and found some weird mass there. The ob said it wasn't attached to any reproductive parts and the gen. surgeon said he didn't want to do anything about it since I was pg. So they did a biopsy and it wasn't cancer, so they decided to just leave it alone till I had the baby. So this terrible pain was my companion the rest of the pg.

This was also a pg where I had lots and lots of cxns starting at, oh, maybe 35 wks or so, which I had never experienced before. Plus I knew from the OB that I was dilated to 3-4 cm from about 36 wks. So this, combined with the comments from the OB of "This is your 3rd baby...don't wait too long to come in or you'll have the baby in the parking garage!" caused me to go into the hospital 2 or 3 times thinking I was in labor before I actually was.

Finally, the due date rolled around and my mom came to stay with us. DH & I went out for dessert one night, and that night I woke up with the real cxns at about midnight or 1 am. I didn't want to wake DH or my mom up yet, so I just stayed awake, timing, and trying to doze. About 4 am, I woke him up, took a shower, and we got ready to go. We left about 5 am in a snowstorm.

Things weren't as chaotic at the hospital for me, but I had never met the on-call OB. I had still not begun my NCB quest, so this story has all that other stuff in it. Basically, I got another epidural...which did nothing at all for relief. I was sooooo not prepared for that...again....I also remember telling the nurses I would have the baby before the breakfast buffet was closed! i was hungry! At one point, the nurses left the room and my DH left also to go get himself some breakfast....I was alone...and in transition!!! I knew I was because of the intensity and the nausea. I pushed the call button and it took a few minutes for a nurse to come back, and she checked me and I was at 10. This is the point that I realized that my body moves FAST from 6cm to 10 cm. That pushing was very intense and difficult, and I remember wanting soooo badly to swear!!! (Ok, you can laugh, but I don't swear - ever!) I don't think I did, but I wanted to! I just had no coping mechanisms like bradley or Hypnobabies or anything to help me push and manage the intensity. They gave me something in my IV, which I can't remember at this point, which was right before she was born. I do remember being amazed that I pushed her out, after asking them to pull her out (crazy mom) and of course they wouldn't.

I also used the moments after she was born to campaign for my preferred name...DH said ok, what else was he going to say after watching me give birth??? That OB also had to check for leftover placenta.

Then...the scary part for me is that I had my one and only panic attack. While baby was on the warmer and everyone was over there, and nobody was watching me, I had the sudden feeling that I was not breathing, and that I was dying. It was like nothing I can describe, and I suppose you know what I was feeling if you have ever had a panic attack. I blame it on the trauma and the medication they put in my IV. Which I will never take again. Somehow I got the nurses' attention, or maybe DH, and was motioning and I guess I was talking too, but explained that I felt like I wasn't breathing and insisted that they listen to my chest to see if I was breathing, and when the nurse used the baby stethoscope I insisted that she go find an adult-sized one. I was really freaking. But I was actually fine. I was breathing. That's why I could talk. It was very strange. I eventually calmed down. The rest of the hospital stay was non-eventful and dd3 did not have jaundice (yay). It was very cute when my mom brought our other dtrs to meet their new sister.

It was this last experience that led me to the conclusion that IF I was ever going to have another baby (at that point i felt very very done!) that I was going to prepare differently and learn more about birth.

You ladies who "get it" from the start are so smart! i am a slow learner!!!

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Yikes about the panic attack- I've been there, done that, and it can be very scary. I can't imagine having one just after giving birth!

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I've been enjoying reading your lodge. I love to hear about the journey. As someone who struggles with severe m/s throughout my pregnancies I'm so impressed how many times you've done this! Can't wait to hear more!

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Conni, We must have been on the March 08 bb together. My son was March 31st. I think he's been practicing for the terrible two's his whole life, and now he finally feels validated!

I met my OB today. She was great! i am soooo relieved! I have gained 2 lbs since March 25th. Baby sounded fine. The nurse let me do my own GBS swab. (I would have never asked, except from reading this board). It was so much easier that way. I briefly talked to the OB about my plans for birth, and she was completely on board with everything. She said they try not to interfere and not do anything unless it's really necessary. She was fine with the possible waterbirth and seemed excited about it. She also said that if I get to the hospital and want midwifery care, all I have to do is ask, since there is always a midwife there (her group or the other larger group). I told her right away that I had been so pleased with the care from her practice, and in particular the midwife I've been seeing, and that I had switched providers twice this pg. She was happy about that and agreed that my midwife was very experienced and had a lot to offer. So...all set! I can mentally relax.

I might be able to write another birth story now. We'll see how far I get:

So, we were a very happy and content and busy family with three little girls. I did experience some postpartum depression for about 6 or 7 months after dd3 was born, but I got through it with the help of a great friend.

When our youngest was 18 months old we moved back to WI for more medical training. I was feeling REALLY good. I was not pg or nursing for the first time in 4 years. I had lost some weight and had tons of energy. Of course, that's when the baby hunger hits!!! I did become pg that summer, but had an early m/c. Then I became pg again right away. Thank goodness we were back to WI and close to my parents again, because this morning sickness rivaled the first, and was maybe even worse. My mother, bless her heart, would come over and help as much as she could, and my dad worked close by so he would also stop over on his lunch and make sandwiches for the kids. I had some wonderful friends who would sometimes take my kids over to play for a while, and I remember one just stopping by and changing a diaper for my baby for me. Many people brought meals to my family (I wasn't eating). I lost between 15-20 lbs. I became like a zombie. I couldn't have anything in the house like Softsoap, bar soap, newspapers, onions, etc. My MIL came into town once and thought she would cook dinner. She took the crock pot and ingredients to the basement and I was sick just from smelling her prepare the food. I could not turn over from one side to the other without being sick and got to a point where I could not read because moving my eyes back and forth made me ill. Once, my friend drove me to the ER so I could get fluids. She dropped me off. I went in, they did give me fluids, but they also gave me compazine in the IV. I had another drug reaction similar to the one with the fentanyl in my IV during the previous labor. I basically took out my own IV and walked out of the ER. Then I somehow made it across the medical complex to my DH's clinic and he said I looked like a ghost. The good thing is that my baby was doing ok, and everything else was ok. Around 20 weeks it eased up and things became much better. So..onto the birth.

I had decided I needed to do something about my difficult time during labor. My friend loaned me her book on the Bradley method. I absolutely devoured it, and also read the recommended reading. I loved learning what my body was doing, the pictures were wonderful, learning about the emotional signposts was extremely enlightening...etc. I felt very good about patiently waiting for the baby to be ready to be born. I also had a new OB, who was really great. He thought i was a little different for declining the vaginal exams at the end of the pg. But he went with it. He was young-ish, and we got along well.

Well, due date came and went, no surprise really. I was relaxing on the couch about 2 or 3 days after due date (funny how I can't even remember the due date now) and it was right after lunch. My dad was there for his lunch break, and had walked my 4 yr old to kindergarten and was pushing the other girls on the swingset. All of a sudden...Gush! Again! I was so surprised my water broke again! I got to the bathroom and also got some clean clothes on and I called my dad on his cell phone. I also called my mom to come over, and of course, DH at work.

I had decided that I would not rush in to the hospital, like the Bradley book recommended...waiting for that emotional signpost...and I also wanted to wait until my dd got home from school. It would be about 3 hrs to wait. So i settled in. I called the OB a while later, just to let them know I would be coming in later, so my OB wouldn't drive all the way home then have to come back in. Cxns were beginning by the time school ended, so I was able to see her and tell her that her brother was coming soon. DH & I drove to the hospital, checked in, and I had a great nurse who must have been familiar with Bradley. She was a wonderful coach through the cxns. I really stayed very relaxed and in control the whole entire time. I decided to get the epi just for the pushing phase and received it during transition. It did the job that I wanted, and I was able to push out my big boy no problem at all. I felt in complete control the entire time.

This was a big step for me. To feel so emotionally in control was a wonderful experience and I DO remember him being born and them laying him directly on my tummy. He was so much bigger than the girls had been! No problems with the placenta that time. It was a wonderful experience and I don't think I would change anything about it. I do want to go epi-free this time (I have learned more!!!), but I want everything else to be just like this one.

The last birth story is not too much different than the 4th. Same OB, not as serious m/s that time (a lot of throwing up and losing weight, but still mobile), I was really sick with the flu at the end. Placenta was anterior and I had difficulty feeling baby kick. I was always doing kick counts and had 2 non-stress-tests near the end. My OB was out of town for spring break during my due date. I knew which night he was coming home. I went into labor the next morning, at 40+5. I had declined induction. Labor began about 5 or 6 am with cxns. I stayed at home until 1 or 2 pm. Things went quickly at the hospital. He wasn't as easy to push down. I asked if I could just labor down a while and let my body do the work. OB was ok with that. It was a great choice. When the water did break, the bag came out completely intact. It was cool to see it.

Then, I pushed and pushed, and baby came out and OB laughed! He said "Well hello!" Baby was looking right at him! He was face up and also his head was tilted. That's why he was harder to push out. And that's why I am so glad I could just let my body get him down as far as possible. Again, I had a very last-minute epi, and had been using my Bradley techniques. The thing that has made me want to try epi-free is that the night he was born I had a nightmare that I had been paralyzed from the epi and had to take care of 5 little kids from a wheelchair. It was a wake-up call for me, that if I can get to transition so well, I should be able to push without the epi and do just fine. And that would be better for me and baby.
I am so excited for the chance to birth with HypnoBabies and I just know it will be the thing to help me stay epi-free this time. My OB today was completely for the NCB and she said most people do very well. it was very encouraging. I feel like I am going to a very NCB-friendly hospital where the nurses won't think I am crazy and I will get a lot of support.

I have just put in the first load of baby blankets and clothes. I am excited to set up a corner of our bedroom for baby!!!

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Fantastics stories. Glad your OB is so supportive, that can be hard to find.

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I thought your name looked familiar...I just couldn't figure out from where lol! Funny enough we share a similar experience. I was 8 days overdue with Adelle when we put an offer in on a new house. My Realtor was the first person outside of the two of us to see the baby. We got the call our offer had been accepted as I was pushing and he showed up a few hours later to get papers signed. I birthed a baby and bought a house within minutes lol.

So great to hear your experiences and how bradley and hypnobabies has helped you. I need to make a decision soon...I'm debating getting the home study course for hypnobabies.

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I thought your name looked familiar...I just couldn't figure out from where lol! Funny enough we share a similar experience. I was 8 days overdue with Adelle when we put an offer in on a new house. My Realtor was the first person outside of the two of us to see the baby. We got the call our offer had been accepted as I was pushing and he showed up a few hours later to get papers signed. I birthed a baby and bought a house within minutes lol.

That is a coincidence!!! lol

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So great to hear your experiences and how bradley and hypnobabies has helped you. I need to make a decision soon...I'm debating getting the home study course for hypnobabies.

Maybe checking out a Bradley book from the library would at least let you browse through it. I bought the home study course for Hypnobabies and have enjoyed taking time for myself each day to really relax. And when I get those twinges and cramps, I can put the tools to use already. You can probably tell from my stories that I came to this point not because of medical evidence, etc, but because of a need for emotional control and control of fear and anxiety. That is why these particular methods have been so helpful to me.

I need more than just knowing the side effects, risks, etc, of interventions, although I am really glad to be more informed now. I needed tools and techniques to help me see giving birth in a different way. Not the way I grew up hearing it talked about (painful and horrible) but as a beautiful process full of love and joy and a powerful, wonderful gift that women have.

After I had experienced it for myself the first few times, I felt like I could not continue having babies if this was how it was going to be each time. We wanted more children, and I was going to have to figure out how this amazing experience of being pregnant and giving birth was going to be a positive thing in my life and not a negative one. I have for sure come to that point, starting with the 4th birth, and each time I learn more and feel like I come closer to how it is meant to be.

I admit that I have been so lucky to have healthy babies and uncomplicated pregnancies and I know that science and medicine have come a long way towards improving the health of moms and babies who are having trouble. I am not discounting that in the least. I just mean that in the uncomplicated births which I have had, I feel like I am coming closer to my ideal each time. And each time is different, and I don't put pressure on myself for it to happen a certain way. I have just started to plan better, to learn more, to prepare for what I want. And it has been wonderful!

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Just catching up on your lodge. I loved reading about your births, and your journey from the first baby to this one. You are a strong woman!

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I am just going to post a quick one, so when I look back I will remember what was going on Smile
Our 2 yr old has decided that he needs to wake up once or twice in the middle of the night and cry for "mom" or "Da". It's heart-breaking, and of course I give in and go sleep in his (and brother's) room until he's back to sleep. DH has got the allergy medication working in his favor and rarely gets woken up. Well in a few weeks when I am busy with baby I guess we'll have to do something about this. Until then, I'll probably spoil him because that's how I am.
Pregnancy-wise, I am very sore in the pelvis and groin and have some good BH's going on. Baby seems to have slowed down in movement a bit the past few days. I think he's pretty squished in there. I feel very stretched out. A bit of swelling in the ankles and fingers. Nothing major.
I feel an urgency to "get things done" and each morning have worked pretty hard at something. Today it was our bedroom where baby will be. I finished putting the drawer paper in the dresser (needed it since the dresser is old and had the original paper in there) and put away his clothes. So cute! Dusted, vacuumed. i need DH to move out the chair that's there and put in the rocking chair. i'd like to hang a few things on the wall.
Also, I gave in to the dirty carpets and bought a carpet cleaner on amazon. I am so excited! It was either that or I would be ripping out carpet! (crazy pg lady)
We have another birthday in the family on Wed, so I'll be planning the cake for him (a dinosaur cake for the 4 yr old!) and need to get some food coloring for the frosting. Trying to decide if we should go to the circus or not tomorrow. That's about it!

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I have really enjoyed reading you lodge so far. You are one strong woman!!!

Do you ever look back and think, "I can't beleive I DID that!" ? Wink

Can't wait for more updates! Biggrin

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You will love your steam cleaner. We have one and it is so nice. I do not think you are spoiling your son, he just wants his mommy. If you are then I am as well since Hawkes still comes into our bed in the night when he wakes up. The movement slowing down could be a good sign. I admit I am a bit jealous, no room does not slow down this one at all.

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Still plugging along here. My mom has decided to fly in on May 16th and stay until whenever, which is great. She'll probably get to stay a week at least. That's the weekend of the guess date. I am not usually early so that should work out very well. I do have some friends who have offered to be on call for me, but I really hope I don't have to take them up on that, what with having so many kiddos to farm out. I have told DH that the minute baby is born he'll have to go get the kids and rescue whoever has them, but if baby can wait until my mom gets here, we won't have that worry at all.
My left foot majorly swelled up on Sunday and also yesterday. It goes down again after sleeping at night. Just a bit uncomfortable.
I get the BH's but nothing strong.
Baby must be sleeping alot, because I even had to do a kick count yesterday. He was usually so wiggly, but not so much lately.
2 yr old slept through the night the past two nights. Yay! Of course, I don't sleep through the night, haha, but it's better sleep for him, anyways.
Today has been busy so far. Chased the 2 yr old around the grocery store to get some necessities then visited a friend. Now it's time to rest a bit. Then I need to make that dinosaur cake!! I don't want my 3 yr old to grow up! He is so adorable and lovely and sweet and innocent. Hopefully he'll stay that way a long time.
I am very excited for tomorrow (other than the birthday) my friends are giving me a little baby party. I said please no gifts. I just was so happy they wanted to do that. I haven't had one since my 1st. It will be fun to visit and chat and snack for a while.
That's it!

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Wow you have some very interesting birth story's. Sorry about the horrible morning sickness! I'm sorry the first 2 births weren't as enjoyable for you. My first experience wasn't very funny either. I was induced and got an epi with him that only worked on one side. I really don't remember his birth either. But with DS2 i remember everything and will always go natural from now on.

My DH and I were married in the Manti temple as well. Everyone in my family has either been sealed or married in the Manti temple so we have a lot of family history in that temple. Isn't it a gorgeous temple? I just love that it is still decorated as it was when it was built. My DH and were sealed in the only room with out Eternity mirrors.

I hope everything goes well for you this birth. I used hypnobirthing and I LOVED my birth! Glad baby's doing good as well! Can't wait to see how things go for you this time!

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"kridda_88" wrote:

My DH and I were married in the Manti temple as well. Everyone in my family has either been sealed or married in the Manti temple so we have a lot of family history in that temple. Isn't it a gorgeous temple? I just love that it is still decorated as it was when it was built. My DH and were sealed in the only room with out Eternity mirrors.

That is so amazing! I think we are the only ones so far for our family. (Well I am for sure!) I also love the other "stories" about the temple and it's location. It was so windy there on our wedding day. We had our "breakfast" in the stake center - do you know the one? I am guessing there is only one. We took a horse and carriage from the temple to the stake center. We had Sanpete turkey. I don't remember liking it very much, but I wanted something unique to the area. We had a great day, though. Oh, and the night before the wedding he was at his parent's house in Provo and I was with my parents in a B&B in Manti. That is such a cute little town!

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I hope everything goes well for you this birth. I used hypnobirthing and I LOVED my birth! Glad baby's doing good as well! Can't wait to see how things go for you this time!

Thank you!!! I am trying not to get nervous and just stay focused on my hypno-techniques.

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Just wanting to check in on you and see how things are going. I can't wait to see pictures of your whole family with the new babe!

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Things are going well here. Yesterday was fun and tiring! Had the baby shower at my friend's house and they weren't supposed to bring gifts - but they did. Those stinkers. It was really nice to visit and open some cute blankets and diapers (the fancy kind we never buy!) and outfits. We had an Asian-inspired lunch thanks to my Filipino friend.

After that, it was home for an hour, then gone for several hours at a meeting at another friend's house, then race to the bus stop, take the girls to dance, and...oh yeah, every spare minute since morning I was tinting frosting and decorating the dinosaur cake. I made it look like Buddy from Dinosaur Train. It turned out soooo cute!!! He loved it! So after Papa Murphy's pizza for dinner (I love the gourmet vegetarian!) he opened his presents and we ate the cake. My ankles had swelled up to poofing out over my socks by dinnertime. I was exhausted! I did get a whole bunch of BH's that were way more intense than my normal, but that was just from being so worn out.

This morning it was my turn to carpool to the bus stop, then straight to my midwife appt. I just love her! I am GBS neg!!! Yay for no IV!!! She said, "Yeah, you're going to walk in there, get in that tub and push your baby out, no problem!!!" She has all the confidence in me that I am still working on getting for myself. She told me that most of the nurses are really great, just make sure I ask for one that would want to help me with a hypnobabies waterbirth because some of them would be psyched out. She also said to go ahead and ask for a midwife, because as great as the OB is, she would only come in to "catch the baby" and that's it. The other thing I asked about was could I have a note on my chart about not needing a cervical dilation check to be admitted. She said to call the OB about it, and she said otherwise, I could just decline it. She knows I will be getting there ready to push, anyways. (Gosh, I hope I can time that right!!!)

Speaking of waterbirth, I am a VERY private person, as in, I can't stand people seeing me without a good amount of clothing on, and I have been wondering what people wear in the tub? I think I will bring a sports bra...but what about before I am pushing...can I wear something on the bottom? Maybe those nylon shorts or something?? Any suggestions?

I posted about a slow leak - I am still not sure - but I am not concerned, either. I drink a lot of water so everything should be fine.

I have a few more things to do to get ready - Wash the linens and set up the portacrib, pack a bag for me and baby, I guess that's it besides the normal day to day stuff!

I keep practicing my hypnosis and listening to the tracks in the evening, and most of the night while I sleep on and off. DH is on call this week starting tomorrow so hopefully baby will stay put until after that. I don't think that will be a problem.

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Sounds like things are gearing up. As to what to wear. I guess you could wear a bathing suit bottom and take it off. I bought just a top for mine, but I doubt I will wear it. I hated having clothes on while in labor last time.

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Sounds like things are going really well and you're gearing up for a GREAT birth!

I know what you mean about the tub/clothing and have been putting some thought into that too. I'm definitely going to wear a bikini top (easier to BF in than a sports bra, I'd think) but I am also kind of keeping an eye out for a swimsuit skirt or some kind of skirt that wouldn't be too annoying in the water...I don't know, maybe just bikini bottoms that tie on the side would be fine, since they'd be easy to remove in a flash when the time comes. I too hate the idea of wallowing around naked for hours in front of people, although I have heard from a lot of people that they felt the same way going in and then in the moment did not care AT ALL. So I guess having a plan is good for minimizing worrying about it, but it may not end up being a big deal, which is also kind of nice to know.

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My client had a water birth and she was naked. She was very private in the beginning of her labor, but they end she just didn't care. I can imagine that you can were a top no problem.

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Yay for BGS neg!
I'm really excited to get a bikini top for my delivery. I've always wanted to feel comfortable in a bikini but my usual belly pooch has prevented that. But I LOVE the way I look when pregnant so I'm excited to show off that belly and have a reason to get a cute top.
As for bottoms- I suspect I'll wear something comfortable and loose for the first stages then probably end up naked. But I'm not a shy or modest person. If I could let a bunch of nurses and my OB look at my private parts under bright lights last time (as PP have said, in the moment you don't really care), I can certainly let a midwife and a few close friends see me in the comfort of my own home.

Sonds like you are gearing up, how exciting!

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Yay for GBS-!!

I am also not a fan of public nudity (I don't even like bathing suits) and I have a great bathing suit cover-up that is a little wrap skirt made of bathing suit material. I got it at Bloomingdale's but have seen similar ones in ctalogs and you could probably get one at Target or something similar.

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Yay GBS Negative! I find I usually don't care during labour about being clothed...however with my first birth I couldn't really share any of the pictures...nor do I really want to look at them so my second birth I brought along a maternity Tank Top (the kind with the built in bra). I kept shorts on for awhile as well but those eventually came off and it didn't really bother me. I was much happier with those pics afterward. An option for down below might be some sort of skirt that would have easy access if necessary but keep you covered.

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Thanks for the good ideas on what to wear (or not wear) as the case may be. I will have to find a minute to run by target or somewhere.

I just needed to vent a little - Maybe a little Bubble of Peace for you hypno-moms -

So a few minutes ago I told my husband aout my midwife appt yesterday and I said she told me to ask for a midwife, and also for a nurse who enjoys the NCB, waterbirth, etc, because "some nurses love it and some hate it. You know how that is."
And he said "It all depends on their experience and whether something bad has happened."

That's the part that irks me.

So I said "OR maybe nothing bad has happened but they just want to see a monitor constantly. and the ones who love it, love it because it's so awesome." (meaning the ncb)

So that was my rebuttal. And we weren't arguing or anything like that. I just wish I didn't feel like he were on the "side" of the monitoring nurses. I so badly want him to either NOT have that opinion OR just say to me "But YOU are going to do great!" And if he meant it that would be even better!

Because for goodness sakes, plenty of "bad" things happen with moms on monitors. i am willing to bet that more "bad" things happen with moms on monitors correlated with the monitoring itself or all the other interventions going on with most constant monitoring. Or poor health to begin with.

You ladies who have homebirths are so dang lucky. I am jealous.

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That would definitely bother me too. Sorry your husband is sending "unconvinced" signals to you.

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To be honest i had more problems with my first birth than i did my second. DS1's heart rate kept dropping because every time i had a contraction his heart rate would drop a little bit and then i would get nervous and my blood pressure would go up and then it would drop even more with that. With DS2 i was only on the monitors for the first hour, well they had them on me the whole time but it wasn't picking up the heart rate or contractions but i was in transition by then, and had the sound turned off and never had a problem with his heart rate dropping until i started pushing.

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My point exactly. TFS

Maybe i should run off into the woods. haha. j/k

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lol. That would make for an interesting and exciting birth story! I'm sorry your hubby is not showing you the full support that you need.

My DH was for home birth before i was. He hates hospitals and doesn't really trust doctors, i was the one that did.

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I'm sorry about your DH. I'm sure he doesn't understand how it's making you feel. :bigarmhug:

I had a similar conversation with some mom friends today at the playground. They were asking me where I planned to deliver (thinking I would say this hospital or that) and the one friend who already knows about the birth center blurted out "in a bathtub!" They all laughed and then looked at me like "really?" From then on I tried to explain about why I wanted unmedicated labor and why the tub labor would help manage the pain...but I think the intro I got really kind of made it hard, even after one of the moms was complaining about how cut-happy her OB was in giving her a c-section. The overriding comments were "at least the center is next to the hospital, so you're right there, for when something happens" Sigh. It's just our culture I guess.

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I've really enjoyed reading your journey! You have some amazing birth stories!

So sorry that your DH wasn't so supportive in his comment.

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Thanks for your comments, ladies. I think what I am going to do is...first thing Monday morning I am going to call my midwife and ask her to be my doula!!!!

I never thought I would have one!

A month or so ago I was wondering if she might do something like that, since she does not attend for births currently, but I didn't think I would need to. But I love the way I feel more confidence when I am at my appointments with her and I think she truly understands my goals and where i am coming from. She really likes the hospital where I am set to go...she always sent her homebirth transfers there, even when there are many hospitals to choose from.

That way, I have the emotional support from her plus the support that DH does know how to give me and I don't have to expect more from him than he knows how to give. Not MORE, but, DIFFERENT, kwim?

I am really excited about this plan!

And...I know she might say yes because she told me she was a doula for somebody last week.! So as long as she's not leaving town or something, I think it will be a good plan.

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That sounds like a great plan! I have similar issues with my DH and I'm thinking about finding someone else to be there. We don't have money for a Doula (and I haven't had any luck finding a student), but it would sure be great to have extra help. Why do men have to be so difficult?

I'm really enjoying your lodge! You birth stories are great!

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It's great that you are going to ask your m/w to be your doula. Sorry DH isn't being supportive.

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The pressure waves have begun! Not active labor, though. Just more than BH's, I think. Plus they started in early afternoon and haven't stopped. Whether I am just sitting or walking around. I went to the grocery store and had them all through the store. And still, now, so it's been about 10 hours or so. I think these are the kind of pressure waves that sent me packing to the hospital with my 3rd, since I knew I was at 3-4 cm already. Of course they sent me home when things did not progress. They would say "We'll see you in the morning!" But, no, these pressure waves could last another 2 weeks, I know.
It does make me want to have my mom fly out, though, but I know I should be patient.
Of course, I charged my camera and ipod and I should probably pack a little hospital bag.
In any case, I am happy to feel something new happening!

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