~*~Kamico/Kami's Birthing Lodge!~*~

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~*~Kamico/Kami's Birthing Lodge!~*~

Welcome, my friend!!!

Kami, I know you are new to the board, but not to preg.org. Generally, lodges are started at 36 weeks and go to the 6 week PP check-up or so. Fun! It's a great way for everyone to get to know you. Biggrin

So, welcome!!!

Tell us your birth plans and whatever else you want to share. Smile

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Thanks ladies!

Well, my birth plan. . .I want a healthy baby. I don't want any intervention unless it's REALLY necessary. I will post my first born's birth story once I can get my hands on it. I pray that the second will be just as easy and great as the first.

Here is my birth plan if anyone is THAT interested in reading it.

Personal Statement:
We understand that birth can be unpredictable. We are presenting this birth plan to encourage dialogue and to help us achieve a safe and satisfying birth. Our baby's health and well being is of utmost importance to us. We look forward to working with you, and appreciate your cooperation in helping our family to achieve our personal birthing goals. We thank you and appreciate your understanding and consideration ahead of time.

I expect, and trust, that my practitioner will seek my opinion, and that of my husband, on all issues that may affect my birth experience or that deviate from this plan.

FIRST STAGE OF CHILDBIRTH: LABOR
• Upon entering the hospital, it is crucial for me that I will not be separated from my husband at any point during labor or birth.
• We would not like to have the External Fetal Monitoring done continually, unless there is concern.
• I would like the opportunity to try non-medical, non-invasive pain-relief methods as directed by my husband and Doula
• Please do not offer any pain medications (epidural etc.) My husband or I will request them if I want them.
• Ideally I would like music in the background (we will provide)
• I would like the hospital staff to know that I may have my own personal style to birthing -- from walking, moaning, or grunting. I would be grateful for the personal space to do this comfortably without feeling hushed or rushed.
• We would like to keep all vaginal exams to as few and as gentle as possible to prevent premature rupture of membranes.
• Nutritional snacking and juices as desired
• Ideally, I would like to be allowed freedom of movement -- to walk, rock, use the bathroom and move as my body dictates.
• I am interested in having access to certain birthing equipment. If available, I would like to use: Birthing bed, stool, pool/ tub, birthing ball (swiss ball).

SECOND STAGE OF CHILDBIRTH: PUSHING AND DELIVERY
• I have the following coaching preferences:
• I would like to try different positions
• It is important to me to allow my body to operate in its natural rhythm and time-table. If my midwife feels that pushing may not be progressing efficiently, I would like to be reminded that sometimes changing positions helps.
• Ideally, I would like to avoid an episiotomy. To that end, I would like my practitioner or birth husband to support me with: warm compresses applied to my perineum, sterile olive oil to massage and stretch my perineum, encouragement to breathe with my urge push, allowing me to move with the flow and force of my uterus.
• I would like local anesthesia for repairs (stitches).
• Please place the baby on my abdomen immediately following the birth.
• If warming is necessary, please allow baby to be warmed on my abdomen, covered by blankets.

If Complications lead to a Cesarean Delivery:
• Please keep communication open. If, at all possible, please wait for my express consent, or that of my husband, before initiating any procedure.
• It is important to me that my husband be present with me at all times during the birth.
• Please discuss anesthesia options with me.
• Please use a low-transverse incision on my uterus and abdomen.
• Assuming the baby is well, I would like to hold my baby on my chest and/or nurse my baby as soon as possible.
• Please remove my IV and catheter as soon as possible following my baby's birth.
• Please provide me with nutritious food and drink as soon as possible.

THIRD STAGE OF CHILDBIRTH: DELIVERY OF PLACENTA OR AFTERBIRTH
• Please, no Pitocin, uterine massage, or traction of the cord in delivering the placenta.

IMMEDIATE NEWBORN CARE:
• Please dim lights during bonding
• Cord not to be cut until pulsing has stopped, please. Cord to be cut by my husband.
• Ideally, with either a vaginal or cesarean birth, we would like to postpone routine newborn procedures until I have had a chance to bond with my baby.
*Eye drops, Vitamin K and other Procedures:
• We understand that it is routine to administer antibiotic drops or ointment, such as erythromycin. We do not want the baby to undergo this treatment at all. (We will sign the waiver).
• We understand that in the United States, it is routine procedure to give newborns a one-time injection of vitamin K. We prefer not to have my baby undergo this treatment.
• We would like to have any additional newborn procedures thoroughly explained to us.
• I would like for my husband or me to be present during all newborn procedures.
• We would like to postpone any immunizations until a later time.

Bathing and Circumcision:
• We prefer that the baby be gently wiped down to remove fluids, and wrapped in a receiving blanket. Please do not bathe, to allow my baby's natural vernix to continue to soften and protect skin.
• If the baby is a boy he will not be circumcised.

Rooming-In and Feeding:
• My preference for in-hospital infant care is full rooming in -- no separation.
• Brest feeding only, no pacifiers, nipple guards, bottles, formula or water.
Sick Baby and Postpartum Care:

• If my baby is not well, I would like to: accompany my baby, or have my husband accompany the baby if transported to another facility. Breastfeed, or provide my expressed milk for my baby. Have unlimited visitation for my husband and myself and hold, rock and care for my baby, if possible.
• I would like my hospital stay to be as short as possible.

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Kami had her baby, which is why she hasn't been on. Smile Her birth story is awesome, but I'll let her share publicly if she wants. She did all natural ...I think it was like 3 hours total.

Gabriel Asher was born at 8:55pm on March 16th ...9lbs 2.9oz!!

CONGRATS!!

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Hurray Kami!!!

Can't wait to hear your story and see photos.

Congrats to your whole family including Big Brother Liam!

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congratulations Kami!He is adorable!

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Congratulations on your new little man! Hope we can see some pics!

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Congratulations!!

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Congratulations!! I can't waite to read your birth story.

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YEY! Congratulations!!! Can't wait to see pics and read that amazing birth story! Biggrin

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Congrats Kami!! Can't wait to hear your birth story!!

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I didn't want to post until i had some good time to give you the whole story.

I had heard from a couple ladies that taking caster oil can put you into labor naturally. I looked into it a bit and we asked my SIL's (aka my doula) opinion. Dave found a poll online that there were two groups of women close to their due dates. One group took Castor oil and over 50% of them went into labor soon after. The other group didn't take it and only 4% went into labor within the same amount of time. So . . . i took 3 ounces Sunday afternoon at 2 pm.

Dave and I had a meeting at church at 4 pm for all the youth workers/volunteers in our church. It was suposed to be over by 5ish and then we had youth group at 6. Throughout the meeting I had to keep going to the bathroom and had the WORST diarrhea ever. The c-oil was cleaning me out and I was having more painful contractions. I just wasn't feeling right. So, one of the mothers who had been at the first meeting offered to let me come home with them (they lived right down the street from the church) and have me lay down there and see if I felt good enough at 6 to go back for youth group. So, I went with them. Got to their house and thought I better use the restroom before lying down so I wouldn't have a diarrhea accident. I went to the bathroom and as I reached down to wipe there was a small gush of something that hit my hand. I thought, "I know I didn't just pee again" There was little white flacky stuff on my hand and I knew it had to be amniotic fluid. But it was only a small amount. I went back to the bedroom and sat there. I texted Dave and told him I thought my water was breaking. So, he called the house to find out what was going on. Laurajean (the mother) came back to the bedroom asking how I was doing cause Dave was on the phone. I told her and we decided to wait and see if contractions increased. So, I sat there and we chatted for a bit and then I felt pressure and KNEW what was about to happen. I stood up and there was a gush of water all over their bedroom carpet. It was kinda funny that I was at their house and two of the high school girls I mentor were downstairs listening to everything that was going on. Their dad was also there. It made for a good story. So, we called Dave and by the time he got there the contractions were close together and intense.

So, my water broke at 6pm and we were at the hospital by about 6:30. The nurse checked me and said I was 8cm already. Yikes! So, I labored through a few contractions when one of the midwives showed up. They couldn't get ahold of mine which bummed me out. The midwife checked me and said, "sorry but you're really only a 5." sigh! The nurse felt really bad but it wasn't that big of a deal. I knew I still had to get through this.

I was feeling pains again like I needed to poop again (stupid diarrhea!). So, i went to the bathroom and had two of the worst contractions because the contraction made the diarrhea pains worse. They hurt so bad! I wasn't able to go but I felt like I needed to push (poop). Andrea was concerned my pushing feeling was the baby and not pooping. They thought they better get me off the toilet.

So, I went to the tub. I only had two contractions in the tub and I couldn't help but push through the last one. Andrea (My SIL and Doula) asked once it was over, "Do you feel the urge to push yet?" haha, I told her "Yeah, I pushed through the last one even if I wasn't suposed to." So, I got out of the tub with Dave keeping composed but inside freaked out I was going to have an unplanned water birth.

I got back to the room and I was NOW 8cm dilated. Then MY midwife showed up! YEA! She had been at Mass and had her pager turned off. I was so happy to see her.

I labored through a couple more contractions and Cindy said it was ok to push a little but not bare down. Then she said something about lifting my cervix, letting me push through a contractions and forcing the last 2 cms to dilate. I had no idea what she was saying but being fully dilated sounded good so I said let's do it. She did whatever it was and then after the contraction was over she said, "ok you're dilated to a 10 now." Great!
it was time to bare down and push. So, I went at it. The head started to crown and the contraction ended. With Liam once he's head was crowning I got to just push it out right away but I tore really bad. This time I had to stop with the head right there stretching everything. It hurt so stinking bad. They kept reasuring me that it was good because it was helping stretch the skin before the head came through. Oh sure, that's all great but it hurt. I just sat there saying, "It hurts. It hurts". So the next one I pushed with everything I had and his head was out. One more push and he was completely out. Dave says he thinks I only had maybe 5 pushes total.

Dave got to catch him too! My midwife asked earlier before the serious pushing if he was catching. he got a little freaked out and was kinda like, " I dunno!" Cindy just matter of factly said, "go wash your hands" Then when the time came she put his hands down there. She helped the head crown but then just kept her hands under his and let him catch the rest. I looked down and saw I had a baby boy! It was so excited!! Dave put him on my chest and it was so over whelming!

So, Gabriel scored 9 on both apgars which was good. He had no jaundice. He was a big boy too, 9lbs 2.9oz. Liam was only 8lbs 1.1oz Gabriel nursed like mad for a while on both sides. He has quite the suck.

So, my water broke at 6 and Gabriel was born at 8:55pm. It was crazy how fast it all was. I am so thankful that it was fast and that it's over now.

Since then we've had a few little eating issues. The first night he just wanted to sleep. They said if we didn't feed him within every 5 hours they would have to do another glucose test (prick the heel) and the first time they had to do it twice because they didn't get enough blood the first time. So in the middle of the night we spent almost an hour trying to wake him to nurse. By the second night Gabriel wasn't feeding for very long before he would pull off and not take it again. Not but 10 minutes later he wanted to nurse again. This lasted for SO long. Dave and I would get settled in to try to sleep and before we knew it h was crying agian. He took a paci but only for a short amount of time before he would lose it. Eventually Dave accidentally fell asleep and I was getting to the point where I was about to cry and get very angry with Dave. I didn't want to get there so I called for a nurse. I told her what was going on and she thought that since my milk wasn't in yet that he probably just wasn't satisfied. So, I had them supliment with formula. I didn't want to go that route. I don't have anything against FFers but I didn't want to have to do it. But I did it for my sanity. I asked if they could take him to the nursery for awhile so we could sleep. It was so nice!!! They took him at 4:30, brought him back with a full tummy and fast asleep at 6:30 and he slept till after 8:30. So, I got 4 hours of uninterupted sleep. Dave knew none of this happened cause he work at 8:30, saw the clock and thought, "Oh no, what have I done?!" He was relieved when I told him I had the nurse take Gabriel so we could sleep.

Anyway, we're home now. Our first night home was tough. he didn't eat well at all and wouldn't go to sleep. He started to spit up a ton which was worrying me. I struggled with him until 2:30 when Dave took him downstairs to let me sleep and look online about excess spit up and what not. I woke 3 hours later and went down to check on them. Dave said we should just be gentle with him after he eats and carefully burp him. He did better for Dave and since I had no milk pumped yet Dave gave him some formula which he took great. I got a fairly good feeding in at 7:45 this morning although it still wasn't nearly as long as it should have been. He is still so sleepy at the breast and once he pulls off he won't open his mouth again. So, pray this will get better soon. It's tough.

Anyway, since we got home we've had a couple hard nights and a couple good ones. Over all Gabriel is sleeping fairly well inbetween feedings and with Dave's help I am getting some sleep and naps during the day. It only gets easier, I keep reminding myself. Smile

Here's our photobucket full of pictures!!
http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Kami...abriel%20Asher/

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what a fast birth!Glad he is doing okay and im sorry that you guys are having feeding issues.If you need anything let me know

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What a great birth story!! And those pictures are beautiful. He is a good strong looking boy. Congratulations. All the best mama!

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Congratulations! He's beautiful!

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Update:
Things are pretty good. It's nice not having so many questions as I did the first time. Most things have come back quickly.

Dave has been great helping me get some sleep. He wanted to take a feeding the other night and when he does he sleeps on the couch with Gabriel in the swing. Well, I guess Gabriel woke way early wanting to feed so Dave ended up having him for two feedings. I went to be at 11pm and Dave didn't bring him to me till after 6. Yikes, I was engorged. So, I pumped both sides and got 9 oz of milk. Anyway, Dave did this for me with Liam too be not within the first week or so mostly cause we didn't think of doing it. This time Dave's been taking more feedings early on. I also have been getting a nap most days which helps.

Frustrations. . . well, Gabriel is a TOUGH burper!! He usually takes longer to burp then the whole feeding itself takes. He fusses a TON too while we try to burp him. Any burping tricks would be appreciated. Many times he has multiple burps too which is frustrating cause I am never sure they're all out. He will be peaceful and I will put him back to bed and 10 minutes later he's bawling.

He is a very efficient eater though which is wonderful. Liam would take at least 20 minutes on each side and I would spend a good hour awake with him everytime he woke in the night. Gabriel usually won't take the second breast and only spends 10 or 15 minutes on the first. We know he's eating plenty though because of diapers and when he takes the bottle he eats 5 oz. (more then Liam ever did with a bottle) and Dave says he downs the bottle way quicker then Liam ever did.

We went in for a 5 day old visit and he was already 9lbs. 9 oz. Yikes! The ped said they expect back to birth weight by one week and a lot of babies take two weeks to get there. Gabriel surpassed birth weight before 5 days old. Needless to say, we don't worry about his eating habits. At 10 days old he was 9lbs. 12 oz. We have another appointment tomorrow and we'll see where he is then.

Liam likes Gabriel a lot which is a relief. He will sit on the couch next to me while I nurse and say "Hold him Please!" He will only hold him for a short minute but he likes having Gabriel lay in his lap. He will give him kisses and play with his hair. it's cute!

Anyway, I think that's all there is to update.

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Great birth story. And he is so cute.

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Kami, way to go to Dave for letting you sleep! And 9 oz. is a lot of milk!

On the burping, I was told by my lactation consultant that if I breastfed my baby and just sort of sat him upright that he'd been when necessary. Burping is much more important, according to her, with bottle fed babies.

So maybe don't kill yourself about it. I mean, try, but if it doesn't happen just let it go and let him burp when he needs to.

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What a wonderful & fast birth! He's adorable too, I love those cheeks. Good for you on getting some sleep here and there, what a great DH to do all of that so willingly.

We would burp halfway through feeds and I know my DH sometimes found it easier to prop our DS's tummy on his shoulder while burping.

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congrats! great birth story! hope he gets better BF!!

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Love your pics and birth story!!!

For the burping, I'm not sure. David was an easy burper. I've always heard what Jennie heard too ...that more gas gets in the tummy from bottles than breasts.

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Great birth story! He is such a cutie. My friend gave me the tip of running your thumb and forefinger up along their spine to help them burp.

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Loved reading your birth story and the pics were beautiful, thank you for sharing!

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Jennie, the problem is that he acts like he's in pain. He fusses a ton and when it's in the middle of the night I don't know how to leave him propt upright unless I sit there and hold him all night (we don't co-sleep). We've tried everything too, over the lap, leaned over in our hand, on the shoulder etc. I also burp inbetween breats but it doesn't make it come any easier. It takes longer to get his burps out then to feed him. I wouldn't worry so much except that he fusses and cries over it. He also seems to be getting more gassy. UGH! I feel for the little guy.

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Jennie, the problem is that he acts like he's in pain. He fusses a ton and when it's in the middle of the night I don't know how to leave him propt upright unless I sit there and hold him all night (we don't co-sleep). We've tried everything too, over the lap, leaned over in our hand, on the shoulder etc. I also burp inbetween breats but it doesn't make it come any easier. It takes longer to get his burps out then to feed him. I wouldn't worry so much except that he fusses and cries over it. He also seems to be getting more gassy. UGH! I feel for the little guy.

Does he spit up a lot? Do you think he may have reflux? My friends baby had reflux and she said it was aweful ..she thought her little one was hungry all the time from crying, but later they found out it was reflux and gave meds.

I'd talk to your pedi some more. ((HUGS))

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Does he spit up a lot? Do you think he may have reflux? My friends baby had reflux and she said it was aweful ..she thought her little one was hungry all the time from crying, but later they found out it was reflux and gave meds.

I'd talk to your pedi some more. ((HUGS))

We went to the peds today and she wasn't worried. He doesn't spit up much, more then Liam did but still not a ton. There have been a couple times when he spit up a ton but that's been rare. He doesn't even spit up every time he burps.