~~*~~* Rebecca's (rmacburn) Birth Lodge *~~*~~

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~~*~~* Rebecca's (rmacburn) Birth Lodge *~~*~~

I know it's a few days early, but given that you are going for your version today, I thought it would be best if we had your lodge set up for you. B'sides, I said I wanted to be the one to start this. Smile

Share your story with us, hun. Smile

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Yay Rebecca! I am so happy you are in the homestretch to your VBAC. Look forward to hearing how this one comes out of your vagina. Wink

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Congratulations on your lodge!

I hope it's a successful (and as painless as possible) version, that LO stays head down, and your VBAC is all that you want it to be.

Looking forward to hearing your story.

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YAY! I'm so excited for you! Welcome to your lodge!

Jessica

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Welcome to your lodge!

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Welcome to your lodge, Rebecca! I hope the version is a success!

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Welcome Rebecca! Can't wait to hear all about you and I hope today was successful!

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I will definitely be stalking you and look forward to reading about your journey. Good luck at your version!

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Congrats on your lodge!

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Welcome to your lodge!!!

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A lodge for me?! Yippee! I thought time was going by way too slowly to ever have a lodge. Alrighty... off to write a little intro!

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Welcome to your lodge, looking forward to reading your story.

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Welcome to your lodge Rebecca. Looking forward to reading your intro!

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I guess I shall start from the beginning!

Hubby and I met while I was still in university, studying to become a nurse. We moved in with each other fairly quickly and were engaged after a year, married after 2 years.

I've always known I wanted children and it was everything I could do to wait until after we tied the knot and I finished my schooling. We started trying a couple of months after the wedding, and lo & behold, we landed preggers on the second cycle. We lost that pregnancy early on. It was heartbreaking. I couldn't believe how attached I felt to the little peanut in such a short amount of time. So after one healing cycle, we tried again and again after two cycles... a pregnancy that stuck!



The pregnancy was fairly smooth sailing, my only complaint was the horrid sickness for the duration. I started throwing up at 6 weeks and it stopped when she was born. LOL

At 41 weeks, 2 days I had a membrane sweep done that started the labour ball rolling. I did well at home (well, actually at the inlaws'), I was getting through the contractions easily and was just excited that things were happening. Rob started to get a little antsy when I had to sway and breath through the contractions, so we packed up and headed for the hospital. I arrived at 5cm dilated with a bulging BOW, but a slippery slope of interventions began that ultimately led to a c-section. If you're interested in the extremely long-winded version, it can be found here:

http://www.pregnancy.org/bulletinboards/showthread.php?t=13256

And some pictures of my beautiful little girl in the hospital:

And now:

It took a lot of healing to feel better about my first birth experience, and part of that healing involved planning for things to be different next time around.

I found out I was pregnant this time shortly after last Christmas. We were trying, but breastfeeding was delaying the process slightly.

This picture was taken at around 28 weeks:

This one is about a month ago at 32 weeks:

This pregnancy has been pretty easy on me. I was a little sick in the beginning, but it went away. I had a tiny bit of back pain, but the chiropractor easily fixed that. I've been really focused on visualizing a drug-free, vaginal birth. My daughter came out needing to be bagged and given Narcan to counteract the narcotics I was given, and I never want that to happen again. I guess that is my biggest motivation.

This time around, I just want to feel more in control of the situation. I want to feel like I can advocate for myself, or that I at least have someone on my side that knows exactly what I want. I never say it, but IF for some crazy reason (like my vagina spontaneously seals itself off) I need another section, I just want to leave the experience with the feeling that I did everything I could to bring my child safely into the world.

So I've hired a doula (the lovely starter of this lodge), I'm regularly seeing a chiropractor and watching my posture to encourage a nice OA fetal position. I've wrote up my birth plan and my GP is supportive of any decision I make. He has a decent vbac record and has no investment in c-sections (in other words, he doesn't completely bill for a birth if it isn't vaginal, because he doesn't perform c-sections on his patients... he must hand them over to an OB).

So that brings me to my most recent developments. Baby has been hanging out in transverse/breech positions and I really felt like that might spell the end of my vbac. I couldn't shake the feeling that this would be the reason I will once again be wheeled to the OR. Today I was scheduled for a version consult and potentially a version. We arrived at the appointment and when she touched the wand to my lower belly, we immediately saw a lovely round head... exactly where it should be! So sometime between my doctor's appointment on Thursday and today, baby turned in the proper direction. I have a feeling it was just last night because only today I started feeling some discomfort in my sacrum, and I may even be waddling a little! So now I have my fingers crossed that s/he stays in this position.

As a side note, DH also found out the baby's gender today. I covered my eyes while the nurse showed him a shot of the goods. He was really eager to find out and I still wanted it to be a surprise... so we shall see how it plays out!

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Awww... what a sweet intro Smile (and you always say such nice things about me Smile )

And OMG YAY! For baby figuring out where the exit is! Can't wait to meet you, little one!

Stef

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Great intro! That's neat that you're keeping the gender a surprise!

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Great Intro Rebecca. So happy baby decided to turn head down! I can't wait to hear if you DH keeps the gender a secret or lets it slip! Smile

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He's already sucking at the secret thing a little bit I think. He seems to be trying too hard to let on it's a girl... which makes me think boy.

Let the analyzing begin. Wink

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ROFL oh the mind games begin!

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Great intro, and Yahoo for a heads down baby! We went through the same process as you, only to find that she was head down as well!

And what a jokester you have for a DH! Lol I know my DH would have driven me crazy had he known the sex, and I didn't. I hope you can hold strong!

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That is wonderful that your baby is heads down!!! Woohoo!! I am cheering you on for your vbac!

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Yay for a head-down baby! You're one step closer to your VBAC!

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Yay for baby turning head down!

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Loved reading your intro, Rebecca. I am so glad your little stinker is head down now. I am thinking you are on team blue...both pregnancies have been pretty easy for me, but this one with my son has been even easier than DD. I can't believe you let your DH find out. Mine would keep a good secret, but knowing that he knew would drive me bonkers, LOL.

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Yay for heads-down! And you and your DH are way stronger than I would be -- I loved that my DD was a surprise, but no way could one of us have known.

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"KarlysKBug" wrote:

Loved reading your intro, Rebecca. I am so glad your little stinker is head down now. I am thinking you are on team blue...both pregnancies have been pretty easy for me, but this one with my son has been even easier than DD. I can't believe you let your DH find out. Mine would keep a good secret, but knowing that he knew would drive me bonkers, LOL.

I've had the feeling baby is a boy from pretty early on, maybe that's why it's not driving me crazy yet!

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I guess it's about time I break out the RRL tea... trouble is, I hate tea! Wink

Anyone have a good recipe for making it into ice tea that's sweet? Do you just make it, and then chill with honey or something? I'm clueless, really.

And I felt hiccups at the top of my uterus this morning :confused: . I think I'll take DD for a long walk, maybe some gravity will help.

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Hey sweetie! So glad that babe is no longer defying gravity... Wink

Yes you can make it into iced tea. Just brew it, add your lemon & sweetener of your choice, and chill it. It's really good. I've also been known to make hot chocolate with it.

Both of those techniques also work with fennel or other nursing teas... Smile

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What a little stinker you have there...definitely sounding like "boy" behavior!

I don't care for the taste of the RRL tea particularly, but I just mix it with a tea bag of another flavor (usually something fruity or mint). You can make ice tea by brewing it like normal and chilling. You can add sugar/honey etc while it is warm, to sweeten the whole batch and it will dissolve easier or you can add it to each glass and just stir a lot. You can also add tea bags to a glass container of warm water and place it outside in the sun. The sun brews it for you and you are good to go in a few hours (depending on how strong you like it).

Enjoy your walk!

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Question. Why start RRL tea now? Will it help keep baby in place or will it tone the uterus or will it help jump start labor?

Enjoy your walk!

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OMG I didnt know that you had a lodge... Congrats,
I love your intro!!! I really hope that you get to have your VBAC.

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Just checking in to see how your doing today

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Hope that baby is still firmly today head down today!! Loved reading your intro and your daughter is absolutely beautiful!!! Biggrin

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"aotus76" wrote:

Question. Why start RRL tea now? Will it help keep baby in place or will it tone the uterus or will it help jump start labor?

Enjoy your walk!

It's a uterine tonic, so it's supposed to just help prepare the uterus for some effective contractions once the time arrives. Cats will naturally chew on raspberry leaves when pregnant if they have access to it, so if it's an inbred instinct for animals that never need c-sections, it's good enough for me. LOL

Yesterday I was in the hardcore nesting mood. I even got off the phone with my mom because I could see crumbs under my microwave that needed cleaning. :rolleyes: The inlaws talked us into going to visit them one last time before the baby arrives. So I'm in another province and a 2 and a half hour drive from home. I had a very uneasy feeling leaving my "nest", so I can't wait to get back.

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yeah head down!!!!!

I never got the "nesting" urge....take advantage of it!

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"~FSM~" wrote:

yeah head down!!!!!

I never got the "nesting" urge....take advantage of it!

I kind of wish I didn't have the nesting urge, it just makes me really annoyed with DH for not doing the same amount of work/cleaning. :rolleyes: I'm not sure I really had it with DD, I felt so tired at the end of her pregnancy.

I hate the furniture here at my inlaws. They have huge leather reclining couches and it's near impossible to get comfortable in them with a huge pregnant belly. Plus, I'm paranoid that reclining back is going to make lo OP.

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I totally know what you mean about getting annoyed with DH for not wanting things to be as clean as you do - my DH keeps on drinking bottles of root beer, and then leaving the empties on the counter. Because somehow, magically, they end up in the recycle bin. I worked from home yesterday, and I put labels on them that said 'Warning. Failure to put this bottle in the recycling bag may result in your wife's head popping off. Seriously"

Now I wait until he drinks one. Heh heh. Passive aggesive much!?

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I wish I had the nesting urge more, too. It seems to be overwhelmed by the sit in front of the computer urge.

I would be annoyed visiting the ILs this late in the game, too.

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Nesting nearly drove my poor dh insane!! I was a hard core nester, even insisted on moving the furniture so I could clean under neath it! ROFL

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"trying18" wrote:

I totally know what you mean about getting annoyed with DH for not wanting things to be as clean as you do - my DH keeps on drinking bottles of root beer, and then leaving the empties on the counter. Because somehow, magically, they end up in the recycle bin. I worked from home yesterday, and I put labels on them that said 'Warning. Failure to put this bottle in the recycling bag may result in your wife's head popping off. Seriously"

Now I wait until he drinks one. Heh heh. Passive aggesive much!?

Our husbands must be similar. Only for my dh, it's cans and cans and cans of Pepsi left all over the counter and in the sink! I'm totally going to make your labels when I get home. I'll take pics. Wink

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Nesting nearly drove my poor dh insane!! I was a hard core nester, even insisted on moving the furniture so I could clean under neath it! ROFL

Hahahaha! I was laying in bed last night thinking about how I'm going to get Rob to move the couch when we get home so I can clean all of the stuff out from behind it. He "hides" things on the back of it that the toddler is not allowed to touch and they inevitably fall behind. :rolleyes:

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How many times a day can someone go to the bathroom? I know pregnancy can cause all sorts of weird and wonderful things, but man.. I don't know how someone can go #2 so many times a day. :roll: It's like my body is cleaning itself out.

I'm not sure if I've mentioned it here, but as my siggy points out, DD is still "on tap" as my husband likes to put it. She nurses several times a day and has no interest in quitting just yet. As I get to the end of pregnancy however, she's causing some pretty uncomfortable tightenings. I just put her to bed for the night (including some "boo-boo" time) and now I've had 4 or 5 crampy contractions in the last 20 minutes. They go away within an hour or so, but I bet she'll be good at picking up labour later on if need be. Wink

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I had a doctor's appointment yesterday and he was being a bit of a negative nelly. DH thinks he's just trying to prepare me in case I do end up with a section, but I'm not the sort of person that needs to be reminded of the possibility.

He mentioned not "letting" me labour a long time. He said they like to see steady progress in women who are vbac-ing. :roll: Well, I'm not really worried about not progressing. I dilated like an average FTM with DD, and I'm thinking this time will be similar. I didn't say anything at the time, but at my appointment next week I'll ask what sort of time-frame he's looking at, and make it clear that if baby and I are doing fine we will not be wheeled to the OR because of an arbitrary time limit.

Also, baby is head down, but still floating very high. The head is not engaged at all in the pelvis. It's my understanding that this is common in women with previous pregnancies, often the head doesn't properly engage or "drop" until just before or during labour. However, doc said, "I like to see a baby further down at this point."... which prompted the whole "progress" comment.

So, I'm slightly annoyed with him ATM, but maybe I'm just a little extra hormonal right now.

Anyone have personal experience with subsequent babies not engaging until labour or shortly beforehand? I didn't think it was something to stress about, but doc has me doubting myself. Jerk.

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How crappy of your OB to worry you. :bigarmhug:

My babies drop way early (Lucas was very low around 34 weeks although not born until 40 + 4). But my RL friend went until exactly 41 weeks with her third and her DD was floating high until a few days before labor and she wasn't dilated more than a cm. Don't worry...this kid is using the va-jay-jay exit! Wink

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It is very common for second (and later) babies to be later to 'drop' and many a baby didn't settle into the pelvis until labour began.

I think it is important to be prepared for things not going as you would want (as we discussed yesterday Smile ), BUT there is such a thing as borrowing trouble, and I think that might be what your doctor is doing.

Your DH has a point, he may well be trying to 'prepare you' for the possibility of a repeat c-section, but he could use some work on his tact in that case. I seriously doubt that ANY mother who has already had a c-section doesn't think about the possibility of having that scenario repeat itself. It would be absurd to me that it NEVER crosses the mind of someone who is researching and fighting for a VBAC.

I really don't think that you should be all that concerned at this moment. You won't know how you progress until labour starts and putting pressure on yourself to meet a certain rate won't help you. You know very well how the hospital operates, so you were already prepared to resist being hurried along. And, you won't know when baby is going to drop until s/he does, at which point you can stop worrying.

Think positive, let your doctor stress and worry if he wants to, but keep your own thoughts positive.

I have a cousin with health issues. When she was waiting for the ok for her kidney transplant, the doctor said to her "I'm worried about 'x'" Since, in this case, 'x' was something she had no control over and couldn't be addressed/prevented until it had already occurred,she thought it was kind of counter-productive to her health to spend too much time stressing about whether or not it was going to be an issue. So, she looked right at him and replied: "Oh good. I'm glad you are worrying about that. That means I don't have to."

Wink

HTH, or at least makes you smile.
Stef

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"Teegs" wrote:

Think positive, let your doctor stress and worry if he wants to, but keep your own thoughts positive.

My new mantra for doc appointments. Wink

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I have no idea if dd (my 2nd) was engaged or not, we were so concerned about the breech issue that engaged was, well, not in the picture! I didn't have any vag exams whatsoever before labour so didn't get the status reports. But I didn't get the bowling-ball feeling until I was in labour so I believe she was probably floating until then. My understanding is that it's totally normal for that to be the case, and has nothing to do with how things are going to go.

I too would ask for a more concrete definition of what constitutes satisfactory progress, and your comment about not consenting to c/s for freakin' time - you go, mama. Smile

xo

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I'm sorry your OB is introducing doubts, Rebecca. You are strong, informed, and determined, and I've no doubts that you can push this baby out.

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Just caught up on your lodge. Congratulations!

I agree with the "Your doc's opinions/thoughts are his own, not yours". You can choose to take them or leave them.

I like your attitude. Smile

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"Robinna" wrote:

I have no idea if dd (my 2nd) was engaged or not, we were so concerned about the breech issue that engaged was, well, not in the picture! I didn't have any vag exams whatsoever before labour so didn't get the status reports. But I didn't get the bowling-ball feeling until I was in labour so I believe she was probably floating until then. My understanding is that it's totally normal for that to be the case, and has nothing to do with how things are going to go.

I too would ask for a more concrete definition of what constitutes satisfactory progress, and your comment about not consenting to c/s for freakin' time - you go, mama. Smile

xo

I didn't have an internal, but when he was just having a feel and doing Leopold's maneuver, you could definitely tell little one's head was a good inch or two above my pubic bone.

It's funny that you should mention the "bowling ball" feeling. I had it for weeks with Ella (it's pretty much all I remember from the end of pregnancy with her!), but I'm not even waddling yet with this one. Wink

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Just wondering how things are going for you? Hope all is well today.

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wondering how you are doing today?

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