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Oh wow! Biggrin

Thanks y'all!

Im stuck at work at the moment and have an appointment with a (new) webster trained chiro at 6 pm to see if she can fix my SPD and get Cassandra to turn away from ROT AND we only have 1 working car today, so I'll be back to do an intro later.

Hard to believe it's so close, but I am SO ready for her to come out and meet us!

Nested like a crazy person yesterday, all I have left to do is pack MY hospital bag and get a tub and a swing (neither of which are emergencies)

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Woohoo! It's so exciting to see so many September mamas on here! Can't wait for your intro Smile

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Yay! Welcome to your lodge!

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Hope all goes well with the new chiropractor!

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Welcome to your lodge! Yay for chiro appointments and productive nesting. Wink I'm looking forward to reading your intro!

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Intro

Ok, here we go...intro time Biggrin

Here's my lodge from Brayden: http://www.pregnancy.org/bulletinboards/showthread.php?t=303214 if anybody wants to look at it, I'll TRY to keep it short this time. LOL

DH and I met in college (in chemistry...we were lab partners...DONT LAUGH Wink ). We dated for several years, then got married. I became an instant custodial stepmom, as his daughter (now SD17) was 8 at the time and lived/lives with him 100% of the time. I was starting my 2nd year of med school, and we decided it would be prudent to wait to start a family.

Fast forward a few years to my 2nd year of residency. We decided it was time, so I tapered off my meds, got off of BC, and we started TTC in June 2007. Got a BFP at the end of September, and we were off!

The pregnancy itself was very easy. I did end up with gestational diabetes and also ended up on insulin (not much), likely due to the fact that I was trying to do high stress stuff like work NICU and PICU at 30+ weeks pregnant. I was seeing a traditional OB who was faculty at the hospital I worked at. I planned to deliver at a community hospital where she (and the NICU team) also worked. Due to the GD, she was very concerned about inducing, etc, and I talked her into 40 weeks from 38.

I had a doula, I took her class on natural childbirth, I thought I had it figured out. Until D-day came and he wasnt even CLOSE to wanting to come out. My OB convinced me that it was too dangerous to let him go past his EDD and so we planned a staged induction. Cervidil, then home, then membrane stripping, then home, then cervidil and full-blown induction.

By the time we got to the 2nd planned Cervidil, I was contracting, but had a Bishop score of 2. They couldnt do Cervidil like that, so they just stuck me straight on pit. I made it 19 hours before I caved (I was only at a 3 at that point) and got the first of 3 epidurals. They didnt work. 10 hours later, I was exhausted, felt like a failure, had the nurses emphasizing how EVERYONE ELSE had already HAD *their* babies, etc. I was only at an 8 and he still wasnt well engaged. Did I mention that he was frank OP, had been for a long time, AND his head was off at a wonky angle (asynclitic)? So...off to the OR we went for a c-section. Which I felt (which SUCKED).

Oh, and my doula's son was in the ICU (special needs 20 something) with pneumonia and she was PISSED that I'd agreed to induction, so she sat and stared at me for a couple of hours, then we sent her home b/c she wasnt helping AT. ALL.

Recovery was pretty crappy as I got a whole 24 hours of "good" medicine then got toradol for 24 hours, then Advil. We got thrush at 3 weeks post partum (the intraductal kind) which hurt like anything. BUT I was bound and determined to "make it up to him" (for failing to give him the birth he "deserved") by breastfeeding, so we stuck it out and we BF'd for 14.5 months.

He is a happy, healthy, rambunctious 3 year old now. Blum 3

this time around, we werent quite as planned as with Brayden. We are at a different place n our lives - I work full time as a primary care pediatrician and DH is a SAHD. Basically, we agreed that we didnt want to raise 2 only children (14 years between SD17 and Brayden) and that we wanted another. so, I had my Mirena taken out in the summer and we just kinda went about life, not really trying but not preventing.

I got the BFP at the beginning of January.

I started out with an OB as my care provider, but a DO who was natural birth supportive and kinda "let" me boss her around (we graduated at the same time from residency). I had it all figured out, and was making arrangements with the nursing staff at the hospital I work at to have my natural birth. I hired a doula (a different one, since we've moved)

Until 24 weeks, when my OB decided to let me know she was moving to Abilene in July. Crap.

Nobody else at my hospital is VBAC supportive, and if they DO allow someone to TRY, it's with the caveat of "you must come in when you have 1 contraction, get your epidural and stay in bed on monitors!". yeah...no thanks. That's how I had my first c-section!

Not too many other choices at the time, so I ended up going with a CNM group at a nearby tertiary care hospital. They are backed up by 24 hour on call OBs but they manage their own patients and they are allowed to do VBACs. They are also ok with intermittent monitoring, heplock or no IV, they have tubs for laboring and for possible waterbirthing, and the L&D nurses are very natural birth supportive.

Im not comfortable in an HBAC or birth center situation, not because i doubt the care, but because Im a pediatrician and I will NOT put my newborn's health in the hands of ANYONE less trained in neonatology than me - and that' requires a LOT more than just NRP certification. Period. I need a NICU within 1-2 minutes and I cant have that at home or in a birth center.

I refused the GTT this time but was checking sugars to be sure, and ended up with GD again at 32 weeks. Luckily, it's been controllable by diet, the perinatologist who was monitoring it released me from his care last week, and as of this week, my numbers have started going down significantly (which sometimes happens).

I also have developed some serious SPD, and the "webster trained" chiro I have been seeing wouldnt/didnt address it, but I went to a (NEW) chiro this afternoon, and after an HOUR of adjustments (apparantly my pelvis was WAAAAAY out of whack), I feel human again! She also has worked with the midwives before and will even come to the hospital to adjust someone in labor if needed!

Im kind of hoping that I go into labor before I have to have the 39 week "come to Jesus" meeting with the supervising OB (basically an attempt to talk me into ERCS or induction).

So, Im a LOT less miserable now, which hopefully will continue, and ready to face the world again (finally!). The house is just about 100% ready - just have to clean up a few nonbabyproof things and get a couple more items like a swing and a bath. Im working up until I *have* to take off so maximize my income for the next year (6 weeks off + 6 weeks part time = 70k paycut...yikes!).

Just keeping my head in the game and planning to go all natural, but TRYING to stay open to intervention IF NEEDED, (and I trust the midwives and my doula to NOT push unneeded interventions on me). I do NOT want a repeat of the guilt and shame I felt last time about "failing" to have a "good/real/natural/etc" birth if things go sideways again. I want a healthy baby and healthy Mama.

So, that's me in a nutshell Biggrin

Thanks for making it this far!

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Wow - I loved reading your intro! You are such a determined mama! I hope that this birth experience is much closer to what you had envisioned for Brayden.

Also - I had a horrible doula expereince too...while I'm not glad you had the experience, it's sometimes nice to know it happens to other people besides me.

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Welcome to your lodge!!

I love how you and your husband met, that's seriously cute lol What an experience to go through with your first birth - I am so, so sorry that your doula treated you that way. Your choices are your choices and that should never conflict with how she treats you. It sounds like things are going better for you this time & I'm so glad! Also super happy to read that the new chiro your seeing has helped with the SPD pain that you've been dealing with :thumbsup:

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ugh.

Woke up this AM up 3.5 lbs and with hands and feet SO swollen. no headache, luckily.

Ouch. I think the lunchmeat sandwich I had for dinner last night caught up with me.

If I cant make it better by 12 through drinking, Im calling the midwives. This HURTS.

I'll have the girls at the office take my BP as well to be sure it's doing ok, and I'll get a quick dipstick UA. I think this counts as "sudden, severe swelling." My feet look like the stay-puft marshmallow man. At least I CAN do some of the screening without driving all the way in.

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Thanks for sharing your story! I totally understand those feelings of failure after a c-section. Best of luck with your VBAC!

So sorry about the swelling today- I hope that it turns out to be no big deal! Keep us posted. Glad you're feeling better after seeing the chiropractor.

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Wow what a story! I hope you get the birth you want this time.

That swelling sounds SUPER painful. I hope it calms WAY down for you!!! Def KUP! :bigarmhug:

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Alright,

I've drunk 96 oz of water so far and I can bend my fingers again.

Blood pressure was 117/72, and no protein, so I think Im ok without calling the midwives.

I did NOT have lunchmeat for lunch again (I HATE being so limited by the GD diet and time crunches...I order Jimmy Johns Unwiches a lot), a rep brought in Black Eyed Pea food, so I had pot roast, chicken, black eyed peas, green beans, raw almonds and some fried okra (LOVE fried okra). No CLUE how to "count" carbs in that meal, but it was a lot of protein, so hopefully it'll turn out ok. I did skip the rolls, pasta and other obviously carb-heavy stuff.

is it wrong to send "come on out on your own at 37 weeks!" vibes to the unborn? Not going to do anything (EPO, DTD, etc) until term actually comes (saturday) but...gosh... Im just in the stage of feeling really DONE, if that makes any sense?

I mean, hottest summer on record, crappy pelvic pain, swelling and the stupid GD diet... I know it's not THAT bad, Im just TIRED of it. I hope it's not bad to hope she comes sooner rather than later.

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Totally hear you on the come out on your own naturally at 37 weeks. I was in the same spot as you 3 weeks ago and I can't believe I'm now at 39 and still sane! Lol

I'm so glad you got your swelling under control. :bigarmhug:

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I also know what you mean about just being tired and done with it! But, it will be over before we know it, right? Right???? Wink

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I am glad to hear there are no immanent concerns.

Thanks for sharing your tory with us. I think it is wonderful IOU are so prepared this time.

As for wanting babe out, I think all of us at this stage are thinking this! Like you, I am not doing anything to bring on labour, but I still wouldn't min I it happened soon Smile

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Ouch, that sounds like some swelling. Glad its going down.

Great intro! I can't believe your doula last time. Not helpful. Excited to follow you this time for your VBAC!

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Glad your BP is okay...hope the swelling subsides soon.

I'm sorry your first birth was so difficult. I got pushed into an unneeded epidural the first time around and I still feel badly about it sometimes. Hopefully this time you'll be in a much more supportive environment.

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So...the good news this AM - down 4 lbs after drinking >200 oz of water yesterday.

Still swollen but not NEARLY as painful.

Bad news - while turning over in bed a few times last night, I heard some huge grinding POPs! and now my sciatica and SPD pain is back. Not as bad as it was, but still. Cant get back into the chiro until tomorrow Sad

*sigH*

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Hopefully your chiro can get things lined back up for you!

200 oz is a LOT of water! Good for you for getting that swelling down! One of my biggest fears is going into labor dehydrated becuase of what it can do to contractions. I keep trying to drink lots of water, but sometimes it just dosen't happen. You are now my inspiration - I'm going to get some water right now! Smile

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My goodness that is a lot of water!

I am sorry you are in pain! I hope you can get in early to the chiro!

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Well, I went to the old (crappy) webster trained chiro today because the pain got so bad I could hardly walk and he's just down the street (as opposed to 45 minutes away 1 way)

Helped a LITTLE bit, but he either isnt comfortable doing the actual sacral palpation and soft tissue release parts, or he just doesnt know as much about it as the "good" chiro.

I also cancelled most of my morning tomorrow (didnt make any already made appointments reschedule, but I only had like 5 on my schedule to start with) and will go see the GOOD chiro tomorrow.

Do y'all know anything that could be taken for inflammation? Even when it doesnt hurt to walk my pubic symphysis still hurts like crap, Im assuming from irritation, but we cant take ibuprofen and tylenol isnt really an anti-inflammatory.

I was thinking some arnica or something, but the "bad" chiro (who is also an ND) recommended against it.

I have a midwife appt tomorrow so I'll ask then too. Just ouch!

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Ugh, I'm sorry about the discomfort!

I've been making a lot of iced tea. In my humble experience, iced peppermint tea is refreshing, hydrating and anti-inflammatory.

Good luck!

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So sorry that you're having so much pain! I hope you can get into the good chiro today and feel better!

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I hope the pain gets better! I've had some mild SPD issues and it's not fun.

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36+5 appt update

Alrighty, then. Cassandra will officially be "term" on Saturday. Im thinking that Saturday would be a GREAT birthday, if she decides to come. Any vibes that people want to put out for "sooner rather than later" would be appreciated....

So, I saw Dr K (the good chiro) again today and she put me back together AGAIN and taped me up to keep things in place. She also told me to get a maternity support belt to help things STAY in place this time.

I saw one of the midwives that I like a lot today at my appointment, and things look pretty good except for some swelling (yes, STILL), which she's pretty concerned about given that I've been seriously monitoring and minimizing my sodium intake. Blood pressure was up (138/85) on the wrist cuff thingy but normal on the regular sphygmomanometer, and only trace protein in the urine, so hopefully no preeclampsia. She's happy with my numbers in terms of the GD (yay!).

She wants me to do a (tmi) 24 hour urine collection thing on Wednesday and turn it in on Thursday, and also next week, we'll be starting weekly biophysical profiles in the maternal observation unit in the hospital to make sure things are going ok (mostly due to the GD).

Honestly, Im kind of hoping that I dont make it that long (Saturday REALLY sounds awfully good). I think I probably will, though.

Um...I think that's pretty much it.

Oh yeah (ETA): My GBS is negative, so no ancef for me. Yay!

Just tired. last night was AWFUL for sleeping.

Luckily, this weekend, I SHOULD be able to rest. Brayden is going to the beach with my parents tomorrow and wont be back until Monday, so no 6 am alarm clocks coming in our room and freaking out because I cant pick him up into the bed anymore.
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I'm totally jealous that you're GBS-! I always end up having to deal with that... and I'm allergic to penicillin, which makes it more difficult. I hope the pre-e stays away for you! So glad you got back in to the good chiro- hopefully everything stays in place for you. I hope you enjoy your break this weekend! That sounds wonderful!

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Glad you got put back together again! (it sounds a little like Humpty Dumpty!) Smile

I will be sending you 'sooner rather than later vibes'...maybe you'll be able to get out of at least some of the BPPs.

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Pre-e is not fun, I hope it stays away! And I also hope you have a wonderful, relaxing weekend. How nice of your parents to take him for awhile Smile

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#1: Yay! Term today!

#2: I love maternity support belts. I havent taken the thing off in about 36 hours (aside from showering, etc, obviously!)

#3: my feet look normal today! I kept them up for 6 hours last night (instead of running around like a crazy person like I normally do) and the edema has gone from like 3+ pitting to 1+, if that! I can wear SHOES!

Just scheduled a massage (I have a BUNCH of prepaids) for noon, my shoulders are killing me from the funky way I have to sleep atm.

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Enjoy your massage!

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ok, the massage was ... decent. Luckily, I have a lot of prepaids, so Im going back tomorow with a different therapist. I figure, I've already paid for them, might as well use them, right?

Im also getting frustrated again about the whole GD thing.

I can keep my sugars really good, but this last week, I started having all the swelling.

per my doula's advice (and midwives), I ate (mostly) raw yesterday and rested and the swelling went WAY down.

Well, that's expensive, we're facing 3 months of 66% salary reduction because of my maternity leave, and we're already stocked up on the stuff that I KNOW I can eat - bread, PB, SF jelly, Luna bars, SF puddings and popsicles, veggies, (mostly canned, no salt, the other kind rots too fast), cheese, almond milk, protein shakes, etc. Now apparantly my doula thinks that the "fake sugar" is causing the swelling, so pretty much all of the above is out. Im restricting my sodium as much as I can as well, to minimize swelling from THAT - so...to make it unprocessed, that weeds out everything but nuts, seeds, leafy greens, and unseasoned meat pretty much. REALLY?

I cant eat fruit, starchy veggies, pastas, rice, etc, so Im about to go insane. I cant live on seeds and nuts forever, my family doesnt want plain, unseasoned meat with no sides, and they dont eat the most healthy (my daughter is making mac'n'cheese w/ground beef and green beans for dinner for them...none of which I can eat, except for the green beans, basically, since the beef is seasoned)

I WANT TO EAT REAL FOOD THAT ISNT SALAD.

This is getting REALLY old.

I think Im going to have PB&J for dinner despite what my doula says. I have some pecans left, but geez...

I cant even just grill a chicken breast because the ones we have have extra sodium (we get the kind that come in the big freezer bag)

Im just depressed. I want to eat yummy food. this is REALLY OLD.

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sorry you are having a rough time right now :(. i hope you start feeling a ton better and this is just a little bump in the road. STAY AWAY PRE-E. hope you find time to rest a ton and baby comes sooner rather than later for your health

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I'm so sorry about the diet restrictions! I can't even imagine how difficult that would be to deal with, especially when you're trying to feed a family, not just yourself! The unseasoned meat thing would particularly drive me nuts... things need to have a little bit of salt, in my opinion! Hang in there- you're so close! Pretty soon you'll be able to eat normally again (although I'm sure it feels like eternity right now). And congrats on being term, by the way!

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I can't imagine having diet restrictions during pregnancy! From what I read, it sounds like you are limited after as well? I don't understand...

Congrats on being term!

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I shouldnt have these kinds of restrictions afterwards - once the placenta comes out, the GD (usually) goes away. And of course, the whole no sodium/fake sugar/etc stuff goes away too, since that's all pregancy and GD related. I was being a little "poor me"/dramatic last night...2-3 weeks is more like how much longer I'll have to do this, it just FEELS like forever at this point!

My only limitation AFTER pregnancy will be in the "we cant afford to go out to eat" category, which is NOT that big of a deal!

Had another massage appointment today, with a guy, which was odd, but he gave a GREAT massage. He also did every reflexology point he knew to help encourage contractions - and so far it seems to be working some, which is nice.

I also went to the grocery store and bought stuff MYSELF, since usually DH does the grocery shopping and he's a bit clueless (I literally have 40 containers of SF chocolate pudding, 2 boxes of SF popsicles, a loaf of bread, a jar of PB and now 3 jars of non-sugar free jam b/c he "couldnt find" the sugar free kind :rolleyes: LOL. He tries hard.

So tonight, Im going to make myself portabella mushrooms with cheese, asparagus and some chocolate low sugar soy milk. Finally! Variety!

And I have salad! And I got some low sodium organic breakfast sausages so I can have something quick to eat in the morning!

I also picked up RRL tea and EPO capsules.

We'll see.

Loving my lunch of applewood cheese and soy crisps atm.

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yay for variety! enjoy your massages, sounds nice!

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I'm glad you were able to get to the store and find some things to give you a little variety! And yay for a good massage! I'm totally jealous ;-).

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I've never done a pregnancy massage, but it sounds wondeful!! I'm glad that you are getting a chance to relax.

So glad to hear that you have a few more things that you can eat stocked up now too. When you have that many resctrictions, I'm sure two to three more weeks sounds like a long time. You have a great attitude about it though!

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Hope you're feeling well and the swelling is staying down!

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Your husband sounds cute lol And I'm glad you were able to get a good food shop in, not being able to eat what you want especially when pregnant is just mean! I'd grump too if I had so many restrictions. What you made the other night sounded really good! Hope your feeling well & that the swelling has gone down.

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appointment update

Sorry it's been awhile, the last few days have been a little hectic!

I had a midwife appt and a BPP today, and I guess we get to settle in for the long haul.

She's doing fine. Still really high and flip flopping all over the place (she's been in every single position today except transverse/breech). BP is good, did a 24 hour urine and a bunch of labs. Hopefully those will all be good as well.

Asked for a check, on the off chance that something might be able to be done to help speed things along, but unsurprisingly, no such luck. Closed, thick and high.

NST went just fine. Was having fairly frequent BH, but also was having some real (mildly painful, pretty high peaked) contractions about every 10 minutes on the monitor.

Got a 10/10 on the BPP, and she's measuring 6 lb 15 oz, give or take.

Dr T (the peri that did the BPP) is a bit surprised that nothing is scheduled yet (like a RCS or induction), but he didnt make a huge deal of it. Hopefully he wont next week either. The appointment was LONG though, he was 1.5-2 hours behind.

Splurged on dinner tonight and went to Hoffbrau....still waiting for sugars to come down a bit (yeah...I had some potato skins....I know...bad....but I had to eat SOMETHING besides nuts and seeds!!!!!)

Also saw Dr K (the GOOD chiro), she put my pelvis back together again, which was nice. Hopefully, it'll stay for longer than a day this time!

Working 1/2 day tomorrow, and have a massage scheduled for 1.5 hours in the afternoon.

Brayden's going to DH's parents tomorrow and we'll pick him up on Sunday.

Monday is off.

Im just tired, and TRYING to repeat over and over to myself that the check doesnt MEAN ANYTHING.

I was just HOPING that this time I would magically be ready early and NOT have her wait until the last possible second and have to be kicked out like her big brother. Not looking so good at this point. Especially since if Im still pregnant in 9 days, I have to go in for another session with the supervising OB who will then try to convince me to schedule either an induction or a RCS

*sigh*

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ETA: Oh yeah, I just remembered, the CNM I saw offered me VICODIN for the pain of the SPD. Seriously? Vicodin? Yikes! I said no.

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I'm so glad your appointment went well & that baby girl is growing & doing as she should! I bet those potato skins were yummy! Lol Also happy to read that the OB didn't make a big deal about you not having scheduled an rcs or induction - having a timeline like that hang over your head would be stressful. And your right, a closed up cervix really doesn't mean anything! Have you thought of using something like EPO to rippen it up a bit?

Vicodin lol good grief.

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Just catching up on some lodges. Hope you still feeling good after your chiro visit (and your potato skins Biggrin )

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THanks y'all.

Sorry about being a grumpy grouch for the last few days. Im just really tired and having flashbacks to my delivery with Brayden...I am SO scared of having to go that route again.

My sugars have been out of whack all day today, probably due to the high-fat meal I had last night (yeah..10 oz steak, potato skins, fried okra...I was BAD...). But such is life. 2 bad numbers out of several weeks of being completely in range is not the end of the world.

The masseuse I got in with this afternoon was AMAZING.

Holy cow. I told her about my adventures with my pelvis falling apart and she did some cranio-sacral stuff (OUCH!) but it's made things SOOOOOO much better it's not even funny.

Been having some contractions today that I can feel - not really painful, but enough that they intrude on my conciousness. A little pressure too. I think Im going to go grocery shopping tomorrow and see if that doesnt help get things going.

Went to go see 7 days in Utopia with DH tonight, and had some yummy thai food (curry!).

Feeling less discouraged, and looking forward to a couple of days of not chasing a 3 year old (he's with DH's parents until Sunday). I sure do miss him, though.

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We're in the same boat. Those past experiences can make it tough to stay positive in the current one. Hang in there- you still have plenty of time and I believe this one will go great for you!

Yay for a date night with your husband, and a break from being mommy! I know what you mean though, I'm always simultaneously excited to have some time off, and miss DD like crazy!

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Glad to hear the massage made you feel better! Mmm...thai food Smile

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Sounds like you had a great date night! What will you do with all your freedom this weekend???

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