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    Welcome to your lodge! Can't wait to share the journey with you!


    You mentioned on another thread that the placenta previa has pretty much resolved as of your latest scan yesterday. If the entire placenta moves beyond 2cm, will they allow you to labor & deliver as normal? Is it only if some of it is still that close that they'll want an IV & epidural as precautions? Your baby still has growing to do, so fingers crossed that placenta keeps moving!
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    I get a lodge?

    Goodness... what am I supposed to put?
    I'm Virginia, 29, expecting baby baby #4. My older kids are 5 1/2, 4, and 2. I see the midwives at a mixed practice. Everyone gets to choose whether they're seeing the OBs or the MWs. If seeing the MWs, the OBs are consulted as needed and help with delivery if it gets really tough. They are the same practice which delivered my DS3.

    This pregnancy has been more challenging that my others. I had my usual hyperemesis in the first trimester. Early u/s (due to a couple m/c before this pregnancy) showed 2 SCH which, thankfully, never caused me any problems. Then, at 18w I was told I had complete placenta previa, but that it would probably move. At 28w it had moved to just off my cervix. At 32w it was still touching my cervix and I was told I would almost certainly need a c/s. Yesterday, it was finally mostly 2+cm away with a tiny little bit 1cm away and I met with an OB who told me he thought it was a "no-brainer" that I be given a trial of labor and that he thinks my chances of a vaginal delivery are pretty good. I'm amazed to go from being sure I'd need a c/s to having a shot at the delivery I'd like.

    It's not going to be easy. My risk of hemorrhage is pretty high and I may need an emergency c/s. I'll have a bunch of questions for my MW at my appointment next week. I imagine they'll want some precautionary measures: constant monitoring, an IV, maybe an epi in place. But, at least I'm not having an automatic c/s! I have another u/s at 38w to see how the previa is progressing, and maybe if my cervix is doing anything. It was closed and almost 4cm long yesterday! Baby is estimated at 5lb 14oz with a big, oval head. Just like my others.
    big boy 12.8.07 @ 39+2 7lbs 8oz, 20.5" BFed for 13 months
    middle boy 8.12.09 @ 39+4 7lbs 9oz, 21" BFed for 13.5 months
    little boy 4.26.11 @ 38+4 6lbs 14oz, 19.5" BFed until 26mo and again 30-37mo
    baby boy 10.25.13 @ 41+0 8lbs 15oz, 21.5"
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    My previous births. There are 3, so this might take a while.

    My DS1 was born in Dec 2007 at 39w1d. I wanted a natural birth, but didn't really do anything specific to prepare. I'm kind of glad I didn't get my heart set on it, because it didn't go as planned.

    I woke the morning of 39w1d and felt a little pop. I thought "hey, maybe my water just broke!" and jumped (hah!) up to use the bathroom. I had had bloody show 2 days before, so I was super disappointed when there was no sign of any leak. I went back to bed and complained to DH. He suggested DTD to hopefully get things moving (). While cleaning up after I noticed there was more liquid than usual and it was kind of pinkish. It took me almost an hour to realize that my water actually had broken at some point, and was just leaking slowly. Since I was having no contractions, I decided to have breakfast before heading in to get checked. I could barely eat I was so excited and nervous.

    At the hospital they confirmed my water had broken and hooked me up to the monitors. I lay there for 2 or 3 hours. Finally, my OB came in and said that they were seeing some concerning decelerations and wanted to induce. Now. I still wasn't contracting regularly and was probably hours from an induction anyway, since my water had broken, so we went ahead with it.

    Pitocin was started in the late afternoon. I started at 1cm and 50% effaced. I felt the change in the contractions almost immediately and they had me on the pitocin for less than 2 hours before they had to turn it off because I wasn't getting any break between contractions. At that point I begged for an epidural and, thankfully, got one. It was 6:30 and I was around 4cm. By 9:30 I was complete and started pushing. I pushed. And pushed. DS kept almost crowning then sliding back. I had a terrible OB resident there who after 90 minutes of pushing tried telling me "you're almost there, just give it a little more. I know you have it in you." He's lucky I didn't have it in more or I would have had my hands around he neck and yelled "If I had it in me, don't you think I would have used it over an hour ago?" idiot.

    Suddenly the mood in the room changed. The doctor went to get a vacuum and a bunch of people rushed into the room. They enlarged my episiotomy, put the vacuum on, and told me to give it everything I had. DS popped out and they rushed him over to the table and gave him oxygen. He was blue, limp, and silent. Apparently he had the cord around his neck twice and then got stuck because he had his hand up by his face. After the oxygen and a little attention he was crying and his apgar went from 3 to 9. They handed him to me, swaddled, for a minute or two, then took him off to the NICU, saying he'd be back in a few minutes. (Actually it was 2 hours.)

    I got to enjoy being stitched up for much of those 2 hours. I had a 3rd degree tear and was shocky, slightly feverish, and shaking from the whole experience. When they brought DS back I felt too weak to carry him in the wheelchair to the post-partum room. Then they took him to the nursery. I was too tired to argue. He had been born just before midnight and it was at least 3 hours before I finally got to hold, feed, and enjoy him. Thankfully, DS took to BFing right away. DH didn't get to hold him until the next day because he was asleep by then. I was so swollen from the tear and the pushing that I ended up with a catheter for the first 24 hours. It took months before peeing felt normal again.

    Recovery wasn't fun, especially while figuring out what to do with a newborn, but thankfully DS and I both pulled through fine. I was almost kept in the hospital an extra day because I was more anemic than they wanted. But, I asked to go home and they let me. DS was a great nurser and self-weaned at 13m when I was 9w pregnant with his younger brother. DS is now a 4' tall almost 6 year old who is having a blast in kindergarten, reads wonderfully, and loves being asked math problems at dinner. His goal in life is to be a daddy. Awwww.
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    big boy 12.8.07 @ 39+2 7lbs 8oz, 20.5" BFed for 13 months
    middle boy 8.12.09 @ 39+4 7lbs 9oz, 21" BFed for 13.5 months
    little boy 4.26.11 @ 38+4 6lbs 14oz, 19.5" BFed until 26mo and again 30-37mo
    baby boy 10.25.13 @ 41+0 8lbs 15oz, 21.5"
    8.16.12 & 12.16.12


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    DS2's birth, 39+5 Aug 2009. This one is much more fun to remember.

    At 38w my cervix was already 2cm, 50-60% effaced, and very soft. We were living 30min from the hospital and the doctor warned me I might go quickly because I had fully dilated in around 6 hours with DS1. She didn't expect to see me at 39w. Well, at 38w6d I was more than ready to meet DS2. DH and I took a 4-mile hike through the woods (not kidding). At my appointment the next day there was no change from the previous week. I told the doc about our hike and she was amazed it hadn't done anything. I was offered induction, but declined.

    At 39w3d I had some bloody show. The next night, at bedtime I decided to check my own cervix and it felt crazy. 2-3cm feels big and DS2's head was literally right there. I wasn't too surprised when I woke at 5am with a contraction. It took an hour of contractions around 8-10 minutes apart to decide things were happening. I woke DH, he woke his parents who were staying with us. I tried to eat breakfast, but couldn't keep much down.

    I labored at home for a few hours, then suddenly the contractions jumped to 3 minutes apart. It rush hour and we have that 30 minute drive, so even though I was still handling the pain fine, we decided to go. Traffic was surprisingly light, and we got to the hospital at 9:30am. I went to check-in while DH parked. The man at the desk asked "are you here for an induction or a c/s?" and was amazed when I told him I was actually in labor. I walked to triage. Thankfully, I passed the monitoring very quickly and was 5cm and almost fully effaced. I walked to my l&d room and settled in with the birth ball.

    I get hip labor and found that on all fours, hugging the ball and rocking back and forth was the only things that helped. After laboring for a bit I started feeling like I needed to push. The OB came to check and I was only 7cm, but my water was bulging and making me bear down. She offered to break it. While I thought, the nurse chimed in "If you go for it, it'll be more painful, but you'll probably have that baby in 20 contractions of so." It sounded good to me, so we went for it. Unfortunately, the OB then decided I needed to lie on my side in bed to help baby rotate. It hurt like the blazes. I just wanted to be on hands an knees, but unfortunately, was too internally focused to argue. I did progress very quickly and was soon pushing. DS2 kicked away the whole time I pushed. It hurt a lot, but it was wonderful to know he was doing so well. It took 20 minutes and an episiotomy and I was holding me 2nd little boy.

    I loved snuggling him right away and offered him the breast, but he wasn't interested until about 45 minutes after he was born. I had a 2nd degree episiotomy and recovery seemed a breeze compared to the first time. The only rough moment was when the nurse wanted me to get out of bed to use the bathroom. It was early afternoon and I hadn't eaten since the previous night. I get hypoglycemic and told her that if she got me up before I ate I was going to faint. She brushed it off and helped me out of bed. I immediately gave her a big hug as I passed out. She seemed surprised for some reason. After that, I wasn't allowed out of bed without supervision. It got old after about 24 hours and I started getting up anyway. I was glad to finally get home.

    DS2 thrived on breastmilk and at 6 months was almost 25lbs! he self-weaned at 13.5 months when I was 9w pregnant with DS3. DS2 is now a wonderful 4 year old and is stretching out. He's extremely social and verbal. Last weekend he went for a 4.5 mile (flat, paved) bike ride on his two-wheeler (without training wheels!) with DH. And he can't wait to do another. He wants to name the baby "Bloop" or "Kicky", loves talking to my belly, and insists on giving my belly a goodnight hug and kiss every night.
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    big boy 12.8.07 @ 39+2 7lbs 8oz, 20.5" BFed for 13 months
    middle boy 8.12.09 @ 39+4 7lbs 9oz, 21" BFed for 13.5 months
    little boy 4.26.11 @ 38+4 6lbs 14oz, 19.5" BFed until 26mo and again 30-37mo
    baby boy 10.25.13 @ 41+0 8lbs 15oz, 21.5"
    8.16.12 & 12.16.12


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    Spacers - I'm hoping that would be the case. I was so amazed the doc told me I could try for a vaginal delivery that I didn't think to ask "what if it moves more?" I think usually if it's all 2+cm it's just business as usual. I can hope.

    DS3's birth, April 2011

    Sometime around 37w I started to come down with a cold. And it got worse and worse and worse. I started having coughing fits, couldn't hear very well, and could never breathe through my nose. I've never had a cold as bad as that one. I started joking with DH that I was going to cough so hard my water would break. Ha. At 38w I went to a MW appointment and I was measuring 3 weeks behind. My belly had basically stopped growing at 35w and I'd been behind more each week. The MW sent me for an u/s. DS3 was measuring 37w, estimated at 6 1/2lbs. His head was measuring 39w. woohoo. I was thrilled not to face an induction discussion.

    Five days later, I woke up to use the bathroom after coughing myself to sleep. I got out of bed and felt a little "pop". I ran to the bathroom and sure enough, my water was leaking. Again, it wasn't a gush, just a trickle from a high break. It was 3:30am. I called my MW. By the time she called back I was having contractions every 8 minutes. She told me to go back to bed and get some sleep if I could. I tried, but didn't get much sleep. After a bit, the contractions stopped.

    And so it went through the morning. No regular contractions, me trying to rest and eat so that when it started I'd be in good shape. Late morning I was using the bathroom and i suddenly felt a ton of pressure. The can't breathe through it, ow ow ow, am I going to have to try to call DH up here to catch the baby type of pressure. Thankfully, it let up a little. I told DH I thought we should head in and see what sort of shape we were in. I didn't want to fall that again at home!

    At the hospital the MW had no explanation. I was only at about 2cm, not contracting, and I was correct that my water had broken. I was sent home to try to either rest or get things moving. I tried both and mid afternoon was sobbing to DH that we should just go in and have the inevitable induction before I was too tired to handle it because my body was letting me down again. He talked me out of it and we stayed home. I didn't nipple stim until my contractions were about 5 minutes apart. They stayed that way for a while. We had been given a time to come back to the hospital (because of the darn broken water) and it was getting close, so we went in.

    There were no l&d rooms. I spent a few hours in triage and the nurse forbade me to do more nipple stim when the contractions stopped again. I did it when she was out of the room, but couldn't really get them going again. I was still only around 2cm. Ugh. At least they let me eat.

    Finally I got a room. One of the ones without a labor tub. Boo. And a nurse, who wasn't very NCB friendly. After arguing for a while and trying some more nipple stim, they started the pit. It hurt immediately, just like with DS1. Bu 4cm I was asking for an epidural. DH, as instructed, calmly informed me that I had told him I didn't want an epi and that I could do it. The trouble was, I was so tried (it must have been after 9:30pm by now and I had basically been up since 3:30am) I was falling asleep between contractions. And i couldn't breathe through them because it set off coughing fits. And, all the coughing had given me costochondritis and my ribs were in agony. I felt like I was falling apart and decided that, as much as I want another natural birth, what I really needed was the energy to push the baby out when the time came. I got the epi. I didn't manage to sleep, but I dozed for a while. DH got a cot and settled in for a nap.

    I progressed very quickly after the epi. I think I really needed to relax and had been having trouble not fighting the contractions. Sometime a little after midnight the MW lifted the blanket to check me and said "oh my God! there's a head there!" apparently I was complete and DS3 had descended without any pushing. We tried to wake DH up (my mom was there, too). She shook him and said something like "it's time." He mumbled "okay" and promptly went back to sleep. The MW's jaw dropped. My mom shook him again and I said in my sternest you-must-pay-attention-to-me voice "it's time to wake up. Really wake up. The baby is coming. NOW. really." He shook him head muzzily, looked at me and said "really?" By now the MW was doubled over laughing. he finally pulled it together and we got set to push.

    The MW had to re-break my water. Apparently the bottom part was still intact. I pushed for a while. The MW was against an episiotomy and wanted to try to get the baby out wtihout my tearing. I was pretty sure it wouldn't work, but was willing to try. I was surprised how hard I had to push! Finally, DS3 was born and I helped lift him to my chest. He didn't scream a lot like DS2. He wanted to snuggled and nurse. It bugged the heck out of me that the nurse kept coming over to bother him because he "needs to cry". He was happy!

    Clean up was rough. I had torn back and front (the front tear I later realized came way, way too close to a very sensitive part. Ow.). After looking things over, the MW went and got one of the OBs to stitch me up. I wish I hadn't been able to hear their conversation:
    "I thought you should look at it. I think it's bordering a 3rd degree. See this pocket here?"
    umm... what? I shouldn't have any "pockets" down there!
    "No, I think it's just a nasty 2nd degree. See, this goes together like this..."
    Oh my.
    the the OB added "I'm really glad you got the epidural."
    ow.

    DS3 was another nursing champ. Recovery wasn't too bad, except for the cold. All the nurses coming it to take my vitals always listened to my lungs, too, to make sure I wasn't developing pneumonia or something. I ended up taking percocet more for my ribs than for the afterpains (which were terrible). After getting home, I ended up on cough syrup with codeine to try to get the cough under control, and so had to make sure I didn't cosleep with the baby. That's one of my favorite parts of having a newborn, so it was disappointing. But, we made it through and I finally got better.

    DS nursed for 26 months. He started to wean at 15m when I was 9w pregnant again, but I ended up with a m/c and he got back into nursing. He's now almost 2 1/2. He doesn't talk much, but he loves his brothers and loves reading books and is a wonderful snuggler. He likes to wake the baby in the morning by patting my tummy until the baby kicks. He likes to lift my shirt and blow raspberries on my belly and say "baby in tummy". hopefully he'll be a good big brother.
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    middle boy 8.12.09 @ 39+4 7lbs 9oz, 21" BFed for 13.5 months
    little boy 4.26.11 @ 38+4 6lbs 14oz, 19.5" BFed until 26mo and again 30-37mo
    baby boy 10.25.13 @ 41+0 8lbs 15oz, 21.5"
    8.16.12 & 12.16.12


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    Welcome to your lodge Virginia. Hope its a vaginal birth for you this time. Your DS1's birth story sounds a bit like mine. Yay for no pitocin the second time around. That stuff is the devil. Waiting to read DS3's story, but is this your first time to see a midwife? Hopefully you won't have an episiotomy this time. Ouchie. DH calls those "V-sections". Haha.
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    DS3 was delivered by the same MW practice I have now. I'd love to share the full story, but I'm exhausted and have a super busy day tomorrow. It might have to wait for Tuesday.

    Episiotomy or not, I doubt I'll get through without needing some stitches (maybe a lot of them). The 2nd degree with DS2 was the least damage I've ever managed. DS1 was 3rd degree and DS3 (tore, no episiotomy) was 2nd/3rd degree and needed an OB to stitch it. The smallest head I've done was 14" and I guess I don't stretch well.
    big boy 12.8.07 @ 39+2 7lbs 8oz, 20.5" BFed for 13 months
    middle boy 8.12.09 @ 39+4 7lbs 9oz, 21" BFed for 13.5 months
    little boy 4.26.11 @ 38+4 6lbs 14oz, 19.5" BFed until 26mo and again 30-37mo
    baby boy 10.25.13 @ 41+0 8lbs 15oz, 21.5"
    8.16.12 & 12.16.12


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    I hear ya on the tearing I was a 3rd-4th degree tear. They couldn't decide, but my midwife said she had never seen anything like it and got an OB to stitch me up. And the whole time my midwife was making "yikes" faces. But after being stitched up she said my vagina was in good shape. I didnt look down there for like 6 weeks. Haha.

    But DS had a tiny head. His whole body came out at once though.
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