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Another OT "natural" question...

I'm sorry for posting so many off topic questions here...but it doesn't seem like any of the other naturally-inclined boards get much action...

So my question is about teething. My little one has been miserable for a couple days now, and I can only assume it's her teeth bothering her. She's just 4 mos, and has been incredibly drooly, sucking/chewing on her fingers (or anything else) constantly, etc. No sign of teeth yet, but it seems like she's in pain because of them. When she nurses she keeps popping off crying and sticking her fingers in her mouth. Sad

We already have an amber necklace which she wears every day. Is there anything else that we could use? I don't have access to much here in Angola- but, I keep thinking of cloves. I know when I had my wisdom teeth out, I was told to use cloves...but I don't remember how.

Anybody have any ideas?

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My naturopath said to do clove oil on the gums?

We also did teething tablets as well.

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Clove oil on the gums is a good one and if you have access to teething tablets those are awesome! I don't go with out teething tablets. I haven't tried the clove oil but I've heard great things about it. Smile

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When babies are teething, they tend to put any new item directly into the mouth. Partly curiosity and partly an attempt at pain management, infants feel the urge to bite and chew. As the teeth are growing, the cells in the gum tissue above the teeth begin to break down, which helps the teeth slide through. The urge to bite or chew is a good thing, because the added pressure helps break down the gum tissue. Give your child something to chew on! You can find homeopathic ice pops, teething cookies, tablets and gels to help relieve your baby's teething pain. Some remedies sound exotic, using strange ingredients like whole honeybees or infinitesimally small doses of belladonna; others include the use of chamomile or pulsatilla (pasqueflower). They are all quite safe.
Other natural remedies include herbs and oils, which can alleviate pain or help your baby calm down and get to sleep. One common remedy for the pain of toothache and teething is clove oil. Cloves contain oils that have warming, numbing properties, so that even holding a whole clove against a sore tooth with your tongue can ease the pain long enough to get to your dentist. Clove oil can be rubbed on sore gums to relieve pain, but only use a tiny amount: too much can upset your baby's stomach. Other homemade remedies include letting your infant chew on a natural licorice stick (the herb, not candy!) You can find natural licorice in health food stores: real licorice feels cool and also numbs the gums when your baby chews on it. Wild fennel, a relative of licorice, grows in disturbed areas in Northern California and other parts of the country: you may be able to harvest it yourself along the bike paths. The feathery, fern-like leaves and hollow stalks can be chewed or sucked for a cooling, licorice-tasting treat.
Some parents find that rubbing a little pure vanilla extract on the baby's gums can soothe the crying child: this home remedy may work in three ways. First, merely rubbing baby's gums can ease the pain by creating opposite pressure; second, the alcohol in vanilla extract will create a warm sensation that is temporarily comforting. The third way this remedy may work is in the calming properties of vanilla itself. Vanilla is known as a soothing yet energizing agent that reduces anxiety and promotes feelings of well-being. Besides that, vanilla has long been used to cure stomach distress: a baby whose stomach is mildly upset from crying or swallowing large amounts of drool may find vanilla soothing to the tummy as well as the nerves.

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I just printed the above post so I can have all that lovely information on hand when this LO is here and going through teething. Thank you so much for all the great information.

I have had really good luck wetting a washcloth and then putting it in the freezer for a little while and letting DS suck/chew on that when he was teething. I've never done any of the natural remedies, but I'm probably going to try some of those this time around.

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Make sure you buy real vanilla (expensive!), not the artificial, to get the benefits. If you are lucky, simple teething biscuits might be enough. Is there any sort of health food store where you are located?

May I also suggest Sophie the giraffe? Oddly enough, this is often a very useful favorite with the teething crowd: http://www.toysrus.ca/product/index.jsp?productId=2854311
Both of Sarahsunshines babies loved her.
(There may be better buys on other sites. Check it out!)

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"gardenbug" wrote:

Make sure you buy real vanilla (expensive!), not the artificial, to get the benefits. If you are lucky, simple teething biscuits might be enough. Is there any sort of health food store where you are located?

May I also suggest Sophie the giraffe? Oddly enough, this is often a very useful favorite with the teething crowd: http://www.toysrus.ca/product/index.jsp?productId=2854311
Both of Sarahsunshines babies loved her.
(There may be better buys on other sites. Check it out!)

Ditto on the Vanilla. DD got some comfort after I rubbed vanilla extract on her gums. I also had success with those little natural teething tablets... they were the bomb!! Here's the link: http://www.hylands.com/products/teething.php

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I can't say enough about Hyland's teething tabs, all natural and work like a charm. unfortunately DH had issues with DS wearing an amber necklace, he thought it was a choking hazard, even though he wasn't wearing it to sleep and it was made specifically to break if it became to tight :rolleyes: but that's a whole different rant lol

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Another rave review for Hyland's teething tablets here! I call them baby crack, and if I say "baby crack" or ask "do your teeth hurt?", he gets a huge ridiculous smile on his face and starts to fuss if I don't get them to him fast enough. He LOVES them.

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My doctor recommends tissue salts… they seem to help too, and very quickly. I think they are combination “R” for teething. However, I doubt you’d find them in Angola!

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Oh Gardenbug! I was *this* close to buying that giraffe this summer before we came back to Angola... but Beni was only a few weeks old or whatever, and it felt too far out there. Sigh. Wish I had bought it now!

I have heard of these teething tablets...but I'm sure they don't sell them here. Sigh. I know this isn't the end of the world, but this was my worst nightmare come true...that there was something I didn't think of to bring with from the States that we wouldn't be able to get here. Dang.

And clove oil...that wouldn't be something I could make...would it? Where would you buy that?

I have one tube of Little Remedies teething gel (it came in a set), but I tell ya, I used a little bit on Beni the other night and her face got all red and she kind of freaked. I'm guessing because it numbed her up a little? Anyway, she didn't like it.

So, I guess I have to see if I can find REAL vanilla in Angola... I don't think I'll have much luck with that either. Sigh.

Thanks for all your suggestions!

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Actually, you can make REAL vanilla, but it takes a while! You can probably find dried vanilla beans in the market, and you put them in Vodka. Let steep for a couple months... Here's a web page about it - http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Vanilla-Extraction/step1/Supplies/ . A friend of mine once made vanilla for me for Christmas one year.

In terms of making clove oil - this is what I found: You can't make the pure stuff, but you can make a decent imitation for home-remedy use - but it takes a week at least. Look here: http://www.home-remedies-for-you.com/askquestion/16518/clove-oil-preparation-tips-how-do-you-make-clove-o.html

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Then too, you could PM me and we could figure out a way to mail stuff. She'll be teething for a while after all....
Yes, I know about how long it can take to mail stuff, and the risks.

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"gardenbug" wrote:

Then too, you could PM me and we could figure out a way to mail stuff. She'll be teething for a while after all....
Yes, I know about how long it can take to mail stuff, and the risks.

In Angola, unfortunately, the issue is more the cost of shipping. The only option is DHL, and then you're looking at a minimum cost of around $100. It's not really worth just some teething tablets. We'll be leaving the country in October, so who knows...maybe I'll be able to find something similar in Cape Town.

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Is there a way of exploring what is available in Cape Town before hand? Pharmacies....doctors....vanilla beans...etc?
Are there people from your school who travel abroad? Sophie could sneak in their suitcase....;) Sophie originated in France, so she is also found in Europe I believe.
Good luck!!!
In the meantime, ice cubes are sometimes a distraction. Popsicles made from juice also.

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So here are my outside-the-box ideas... If you happen to have any Bach's Rescue Remedy, it might be worth a try. Same with Chamomile tea, can't hurt, might help...

Liver 3 -- quiets the nervous system & relieves headache, teething, and eye pain
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/acupressure/points.php#LIV-3

Spleen 6 -- calms, relaxes and reduces irritability
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/acupressure/points.php#SP-6

And this article gives a decent description of how to stimulate, on a baby, a spot that relieves head pain in general, and also other acupressure points for other ailments
http://tripibabytips.blogspot.com/2009/07/5-tips-for-infant-acupressure-points.html

And a cold frozen wet washcloth was sometimes our best friend. Blum 3 Hope this phase passes soon!

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Thanks for those ideas! Well, I ended up ordering a Sofie and a 4-pack of the 125 ct teething tablets...my dad will send them to me when I'm in SA in October.

Several of you have mentioned wet washcloths or ice cubes... how does that work for a baby not yet on solids/still EBF? I don't even know when it is appropriate to introduce water in general....

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Mara,

I wouldn’t worry too much about ice, as long as it’s from clean water! Lots of babies get water when they are very young, but the point of using it to soothe pain is like putting ice on a bump on your forehead. Yes, she will likely ingest some, but likely it’s not enough to stop her from eating plenty of BM. No, you don’t want to use the water as a substitute for milk, but with the amount she’d get from an ice cube, I wouldn’t worry.

One of the things that I was suggested was to just put an ice cube in a clean washcloth. Dampen it with water, and hold it for DD to suck/chew on. The cloth will give a softer textures than the ice cube, yet the firmness of the ice to push on, and the coolness as well. It’s the “easy way” if DD will take it at all! On top of that, baby won't get hardly any water at all, so I wouldn't worry about the "not on solids" part yet.

Ivy wasn’t very keen on ice, and I never had to worry with Reed. He’d just get a nasty fever for a night and then be fine after that.

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Do you have any of those teething rings you could throw in the freezer? Sometimes that would work for us in a pinch. It didn't even have to be one with liquid in it, just a plain ol plastic teething ring but something about it being really really cold would sometimes help DS.

I agree that with the amount of ice that Beni would get from chewing on an ice cube, it shouldn't make a difference. We have some of those plastic reusable ice cubes and those work pretty well also.