My SIL had her first baby today. Baby was "sunnyside up" and she pushed for three hours. The doctor then tried using a vacuum. That didn't work, so it was off to surgery. Did anyone suggest that she get on her hands & knees? Nope. Did anyone suggest she try squatting? Nope. She had an epidural and was flat on her back the whole time. Ugh. :cry: Thanks for listening.