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    hi, I have not posted here in a while. My NCB'd baby is almost 4 years now! Anyway, with the recent issue of Barbara Harper's birth pools being seized, it makes me wonder about something. Most birth pools are made of vinyl, some say they are free of the major toxins. Does this concern anyone? I did not use a pool during my NCB. But, we try to be a vinyl-free house so I am wondering about the idea of laboring in a vinyl pool. Now that I think about it, laboring in a vinyl pool sounds kinda icky! We don't even use vinyl play pools for the kids for health reasons. We feel they are toxic. So, what do you all think about vinyl birth pools? Does anyone use one and yet not use vinyl in other parts of their life? Do you think maybe the feds seized Ms Harper's pools because they are made from bad vinyl, like the cheap stuff from overseas?

    I did read the other thread here about her pools and I have looked into the issue. Her pools had a MAUDE report done at the FDA by someone anonymous, meaning someone thought they were potentially harmful and should be classified as a medical device, thus necessitating further testing to prove they are safe.

    So, just curious about this issue and figured this was the place to ask! Are there pools that are proven to be safe and non toxic?

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    I haven't got a clue but I thought I'd pop in and suggest that I've never heard of a better reason to buy a hot tub (actually considering it for #2)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiggersMommy View Post
    I haven't got a clue but I thought I'd pop in and suggest that I've never heard of a better reason to buy a hot tub (actually considering it for #2)
    hahaha, good point. I had mine at a free standing birth center owned by local midwives and they had a small jacuzzi tub. I just preferred standing, but I know for some water is great.
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    Yep, had DD in the jacuzzi tub at our birth center. Afterwards, I was like ... wait I could've done that at home. What did I need all you people for? Just need that jacuzzi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiggersMommy View Post
    Yep, had DD in the jacuzzi tub at our birth center. Afterwards, I was like ... wait I could've done that at home. What did I need all you people for? Just need that jacuzzi
    LOL!

    I needed the people! I loved my midwives. But some can do it at home, with or without! If I had another, it would be at home.
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    I can kind of see why the pools were taken. It's pretty much impossible to completely sterilize a portable pool (to medical standards). And if you're using the same one for multiple women, and membranes have been ruptured, it is an increased infection risk. I don't personally have a problem with the vinyl because the pool is being used by each person for a relatively short period of time. I do think that each pool should only be used by one person for birth. Or, at the very least, women should acquire their own pools because it would limit the midwife's liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joysiloo View Post
    I can kind of see why the pools were taken. It's pretty much impossible to completely sterilize a portable pool (to medical standards). And if you're using the same one for multiple women, and membranes have been ruptured, it is an increased infection risk. I don't personally have a problem with the vinyl because the pool is being used by each person for a relatively short period of time. I do think that each pool should only be used by one person for birth. Or, at the very least, women should acquire their own pools because it would limit the midwife's liability.
    Yeah, that is what I was thinking. I had a talk with some crunchy homebirthing moms today and they all agreed that they don't like the idea of giving birth in a pool anyway for reasons you stated.
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    I gave birth twice in one of those kinds of reusable birth tubs (BPIAB and La Bassine). The vinyl doesn't bother me. And I had a brand new liner for my tubs that covered right over to half way down the outside, so I had no worries about contaminants either.

    I dunno...it just doesn't seem like the most likely risk. The benefits of labouring in the deep water, in my own home (zero option of buying a jaccuzi or using our family bath) absolutely outweighed any risk of infection or toxins due to vinyl. I don't see how it could be worse than labouring on hospital sheets or a birth center birth ball.

    No, they can't be sterilized, but we used professional grade cleansers on the tubs before the liners went on, too. My husband works in the medical field, so he has access to excellent cleansers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JorgieGirl View Post
    I gave birth twice in one of those kinds of reusable birth tubs (BPIAB and La Bassine). The vinyl doesn't bother me. And I had a brand new liner for my tubs that covered right over to half way down the outside, so I had no worries about contaminants either.

    I dunno...it just doesn't seem like the most likely risk. The benefits of labouring in the deep water, in my own home (zero option of buying a jaccuzi or using our family bath) absolutely outweighed any risk of infection or toxins due to vinyl. I don't see how it could be worse than labouring on hospital sheets or a birth center birth ball.

    No, they can't be sterilized, but we used professional grade cleansers on the tubs before the liners went on, too. My husband works in the medical field, so he has access to excellent cleansers.
    Agreed & pretty much what I was going to say. I've attended many births & the ones where a tub was used always had a liner unless it was bought by the mom and the option to use a liner was always present. Chances are they are cleaner than the tubs at the hospital - one of the reasons many hospitals don't let you birth in the tub or even get in if your waters are broken is because they admit to not being able to truly steralize them, especially the jets. This whole birth tub issue with the FDA is just obnoxious to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimmy View Post
    Agreed & pretty much what I was going to say. I've attended many births & the ones where a tub was used always had a liner unless it was bought by the mom and the option to use a liner was always present. Chances are they are cleaner than the tubs at the hospital - one of the reasons many hospitals don't let you birth in the tub or even get in if your waters are broken is because they admit to not being able to truly steralize them, especially the jets. This whole birth tub issue with the FDA is just obnoxious to me.
    yep what she said. LOL
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