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Hi Ladies! Can I ask a ? :) *Long*

Hi Everyone! My name is Ashly and I have 4 kids expecting #5 any day! I lurk over here and don't post so I hope you don't mind me asking you something!

At 20 weeks I had to have emergency hernia surgery under my bellybutton about 3 inches to the left because the uterus was growing inside the muscle wall, so instead of my bowls coming out of the hole the uterus was in there. Werid I know! Any ways......

I am almost 39 weeks, this is the most pregnant I have ever been! I normally have them at 37 weeks and I did have a 32weeker. My dr didn't think I would make it this long and we were even thinking about an induction at 36/37 weeks but she was really small and we said we would just go till I went into labor!

Last week I had a membrane sweep to try and help things move along it hurt and there was a lot of blood a few hours later I did start having contractions but mostly in my back and it was horrible! I finally ended up in the hospital for 12 hours contractions every 12 minutes down to every 5 minutes but after 12 hours it was starting to stop. And it was all back labor.

My dr says even though baby is head down she is sunnyside up. She said I can deliver baby like this but it will be a lot of back labor.

So has anyone given birth with a sunnyside up baby?

A lady at church is a nurse and she also said that maybe I won't be able to have the baby vaginal because my muscle wall is still very weak and the surgery was done right in the area that I need to push and have the baby come down. Do you think that is true? I am going to ask my ob but I am nervous about the c-section I have never had one but I need to prepare I guess!

Thank you for reading this, sorry it's so long but I figured I would ask over here!

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Hi from January! Wink

My DS and this last baby were both posterior. With both, the contractions were much more intense, and they also double-peaked. (Not fun!) They were harder labors than with DD1. Pushing was also a lot different. With DS, I pushed for about 2.5 hours, which isn't too crazy considering he was my first. I did end up with an episiotomy, though. With this last baby, pushing wasn't harder per se, but just felt different than with DD1. I never had an overwhelming urge to push, and pushing just felt less effective, a bit less like I knew when to push, if that makes sense. I was just pushing with the contractions, not based on an urge. This last baby did flip around at the last minute, but the pushing was 'harder' and she descended slowly. I have no idea how long I pushed.....it felt like a while, but I bet it was only 20 minutes or less!

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I know I can do it! I have never had back labor so it's something new! And I was also having the double peak in the contractions they were coming every 12 minutes and 4 minutes into them another peak would happen than come down. With the second peak I felt the contraction in the front but the first time was all my back.

Tomorrow she is doing another sweep, I was 3cm when I left the hospital Wed morning. We will see! Thank you for sharing your story!

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i wish i had some good advice for you but don't. i hope they don't get pushy about a section, i can't imagine recoverying from surgery with 5 lo's needing mommy attention. Hopefully the labor is short and sweet!

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Thank you Kristen, that is one of my biggest fears! how will I take care of my kids! My life is busy with the kids and it would put me back. My husband can take 1 week off of work but school starts up again on Jan 17th and in Law School you don't just miss class! So I don't know. I will know more tomorrow but I am trying to prepare myself!

I did google sunnyside up labors and what not and most lead to c-section because you push and push with no luck!

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Just thought to add that I imagine the position you're in for delivery could make a big difference. For DS, I was semi-sitting in the bed, so not ideal. I think this is partly why pushing took so long. For DD1 and DD2, I was squatting. It's not for everybody, but I can't help but think it helped when DD2 was posterior.

Also, it's not too late to encourage baby into a better position. My midwife told me no slouching on the couch, try to sit upright at all times (easier said than done!), and also lunges. It didn't help in my case, but it doesn't hurt to try.

And you're absolutely right -- you can do it! Plenty of babies are born sunnyside up --- it just makes labor a bit different and can mean more pushing. Maybe talk to your dr. about not having a time limit on pushing as long as you and LO are doing fine?

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i don't know if it's helpful, but in my experience with DS1, he was sunnyside up when i went into labor. then he kind of shifted partway around as he descended so that he was facing one side, but that meant that the widest part of his head was trying to come through, which doesn't work too well. i was a complete 10 cm but having difficulty making progress with pushes. (my OB only let me try 2 pushes that way though and i wasn't trying different positions that might have helped.) they wanted baby out quickly due to heart rate decels, and started talking c-section, but i begged them to let me try to have him vaginally since we were so close. so on the next push, somehow my OB reached in and helped baby turn the rest of the way so he was facing in the right direction. 2 or 3 more pushes and he was out!

all that to say, your baby may turn during labor, your OB may be able to help, or baby might be born face-up, but i think all of those scenarios are better than a c-section if at all possible. good luck!!!

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The baby can turn right up until birth, so there is still time for he/she to get into a better position. The tips about sitting straight, not slouching are right on. Also, spend lots of time in hands and knees position. You want the baby's back to roll towards the front of your belly.

BUT, even if baby isn't is the best position you absolutely can have a vaginal birth. I work in maternity and lots of women push out posterior babies and lots of baby turn during labor. Especially, since this isn't your first birth.

You'll do great!

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I don't have much more to add, but just want to add support to spending time on your hands and knees and staying out of a slouching on your back position. Get the baby turned before labor starts and you'll be golden! Smile

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I msged you on FB, but I did hands and knees with swaying and tilting (cat/cow) for about 20 minutes until the contractions were in my belly again and then doing the Walcher's Trochanger Roll http://spinningbabies.com/techniques/activities-for-fetal-positioning/walchers-trochanter-roll right after to get her to engage properly.

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Yes, definitely check out the Spinning Babies website for things to try now, and also during labor.

As for your muscle wall being "weak" it probably isn't given that you've been healing for five months. If it were, you'd have had complications by now. But you might find that it can interfere with your delivery in a mental way rather than a physical way. I'd have never thought of this until about a year ago, but I know a woman who had abdominal surgery, an appendectomy, during her pregnancy last year. Her doctor said she'd be fine for a vaginal birth, but when she was pushing, she felt that her scar wasn't strong enough in some way. She knew intuitively that there wasn't anything wrong, but she had a mental block with it. Her husband held his hand there, not really pushing but just applying pressure, and she said it gave her a sense of strength in that area, and then she was able to push just fine. So be aware that something like that might happen for you. Wishing you a fabulous fifth birth!

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Hi! I posted on the Large Families board (I lurk there a lot!) thinking it was this board! ha ha! anyway, wanted to add that back labor is harder than "regular" labor but it's the pushing that is really different. it just takes longer and is tougher when baby isn't in the correct position. So don't be suprised if baby doesn't turn when the pushing phase takes longer than your other children did. Good luck! I hope she turns for you prior to labor or at least during labor! Smile

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DD was sunny side up and the nurse had me do different positions during labor to try to turn her and she did turn. I could tell she turned when my back labor subsided some. It didn't completely go away, but it wasn't as bad. I'm assuming she turned all the way because I only pushed twice and she slipped right out. From the time my water broke to the time she was born was only 4 minutes. A friend of mine had a home birth and her son was sunny side up. She did push for a couple of hours, but she successfully delivered him at home so it is possible.

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Thank you ladies so much for your input!

When I went for my ob appt I was 4cm 100% effaced. Baby is still facing up but my ob feels she will move and my labor will go on as normal and if not I might push longer. She said they will not force a c-section on me unless something is wrong with baby or that I try and push for so long I get tired and can't do it anymore.

I am still going ahead with the induction Friday morning, all she will be doing is breaking my water. Once my water breaks my body will do what it is supposed to do!

I will keep everyone updated on how she came out!

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sounds like your body is gearing up, glad you have lots of support!

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"Mommyin04060809" wrote:

I am still going ahead with the induction Friday morning, all she will be doing is breaking my water. Once my water breaks my body will do what it is supposed to do!

I'm going to strongly urge you to reconsider this plan. Breaking your water will risk "locking" baby into her poor positioning, which will make labor harder & longer. It could also prevent a vaginal birth altogether because, without that cushion, it's more difficult for baby to turn or to tuck her chin to get her head out. And it also puts you "on the clock," which might mean they'd want to start Pitocin in X amount of hours if labor doesn't start or try to force a c-section if baby isn't born with Y amount of hours.

You're not even to your EDD, so what's the rush? Let your body do what it's supposed to do on its own time frame. If there *is* a reason to induce labor, then in your case I would recommend starting with a bit of Pitocin and see if that jump-starts things, because you can turn it off when labor gets going, and you can get up & go home if it's not working. Also, keeping the waters intact gives your baby more time & room to turn during labor.

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My first baby was sunny side up, and yes, all of the labor was in my back. I won't lie, it was excrutiating, but I did it naturally... and it was a vaginal delivery.

I also second what Spacers said.

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I have to agree with Stacey (Spacers) and Krystal (Starryblue702). With my DS, I went into labor when my water broke naturally. I really think it was a much more difficult labor because of both the bad position and the water breaking first. I'd start with Pitocin rather than breaking my water. Why is your doctor recommending to start with that?

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Ashly had her baby. Carolina Elizabeth Willow Anne H* 7lbs, 10 oz and 20in long on Friday the 13th. She reported that labor was fast and intense and Carolina came out with bruises on her face.

She did go along with the induction time, but I'm unsure if she changed the method.

She reported on FB this morning that Carolina is having breathing issues.

If you are familiar with Ashly, you know that she went through a LOT with her last baby, Leland. He had dead lung tissue and was wrongfully diagnosed with Cystic Fibrosis and had the dead tissue removed in Dec 2011. It's been a long hard road with Leland, so to be facing another lung issue must be killing her and her family.

Please send her T&P. I will update as I can.

Mel~ could you update the Large family board, please? Thanks.

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"I am finally home after a horrible recovery. Long story I had a spinal leak after my epidural and was in bed for 2 days. This morning I was able to get a spinal tap and blood patch done and feel about 75% better. They said I should be up and running fully in 7-10 days. Carolina is doing great. She is finally learned that she needs to breathe while eating. She will join us at home on Wed if she behaves. Me and the nicu are best friends! The same Nicu dr and bed LeLand was in! Crazy! Ok off to rest in bed!"

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Congratulations! One of my best friends got a spinal leak from her epidural, she was absolutely miserable from it! It really sounds like a horrible thing to have. I hope Carolina "behaves" and gets to come home very soon.

Thanks for updating us Janelle. I've been wondering how everything went for her and how LO was doing.

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Oh, poor Ashly--my mom had a spinal leak after her c-section with my brother and was flat on her back for 2 weeks! It was horrific. Thank goodness I was big enough (13.5) to help out a lot with the new baby...

Glad it sounds like baby and mom are recovering well now...and WTTW, Carolina!

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From Ashly's FB

"Went to see my little diva today and she is doing much better! It was great to hold and snuggle her! They said she might be able to come home tomorrow if tonight goes well and they asked me to stay overnight in a room with her! So excited about that! I posted some new pictures of her! Have a great night!"

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"Carolina is home and wondering what all this crazy noise is!!! :)"

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