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    Default Losing hope for my VBAC (Baby still breech)

    I am losing hope for my VBAC. I went for an appointment at my high risk doctor last week and they said her fluids were on the lower side (6) so they monitored me this week. Katelyn was still breech then.

    On a positive note, went back today for a fluid recheck and a biophysical profile and aside from being breech STILL, she looks wonderful. Fluids are back up, at a 12!

    I am now 35w1d. She is still, stubbornly breech. My DD#1 was breech too -- even still at 37 weeks when I had her via c-section. I really do not want another c-section.. but I have tried EVERYTHING.

    I have been seeing a chiropractor certified in the webster technique for 3-4 weeks now, 3x a week and Katelyn is STILL breech. I've tried moxa. I've tried visualization. I've tried the cold peas -- the music at my pelvis. I've tried the breech tilt (holy uncomfortable and impossible). The last thing I have is an acupuncture appointment next Tuesday as a last resort.

    Still feeling very frustrated and quickly, very quickly, losing hope.

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    Hang in there, you're only 35 weeks! She still has plenty of time to turn! Keep doing what you're doing, and maybe consider ordering the Hypnobabies breech script. Resist their urge to schedule an early c-section, give her plenty of time to turn. Consider allowing labor to start & see if the contractions help her turn. Basically do everything you possibly can to give her the birth you want, but be ready to give her the birth she needs if she doesn't turn.

    And next time you have an ultrasound, ask two questions. First, what breech position is she in? There *are* breech positions where a vaginal birth *should* be an option for you, if you so choose. Second, how long is her umbilical cord? Many times I've heard of a baby resisting all efforts to turn, and their cord turned out to be very short; IMHO if that was my situation, I'd stop trying to turn her & begin embracing my next surgical birth.
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    ITA with everything said. After learning what I learned about the benefits to the baby of at least allowing your body to go into labor naturally, I promised that to myself. Also, like PP said, it is very important to know what type of breech. 35 weeks is SO EARLY for them to be putting pressure on you. You technically should have at LEAST another 7 weeks to consider everything. A VERY high percentage of babies turn by 38 weeks, and even more turn between then and birth. And I like the point about asking how long the cord is... obviously if there is a physical reason the baby needs to be breech, then it is what it is. Will your OB do an external version? I've heard it's painful but that it has worked for some people. KUP, and I am sorry this is all so stressful. (((HUGS)))
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    *smacks head* I can't believe I forgot to mention external version! Some OBs won't do an external version on a VBAC mom, for fear of rupturing the uterus, but the data doesn't support that. ACOG's own VBAC practice bulletin says that (see page 5.) And the American Academy of Family Physicians says, "External version has been used successfully in VBAC candidates without any incidence of uterine rupture," even during labor, with one study showing a reduction in the cesarean rate of 50%!

    http://www.acog.org/acog_districts/dist9/pb054.pdf (see page 5)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    *smacks head* I can't believe I forgot to mention external version! Some OBs won't do an external version on a VBAC mom, for fear of rupturing the uterus, but the data doesn't support that. ACOG's own VBAC practice bulletin says that (see page 5.) And the American Academy of Family Physicians says, "External version has been used successfully in VBAC candidates without any incidence of uterine rupture," even during labor, with one study showing a reduction in the cesarean rate of 50%!

    http://www.acog.org/acog_districts/dist9/pb054.pdf (see page 5)

    http://www.aafp.org/afp/980901ap/coco.html
    GREAT info!! Thanks for sharing. I knew they have high success, but wasn't sure about for VBACs. Thanks for posting your sources too.. I'm going to have to put them in my "file" of important information I may need at a later date
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    you got good advice already! I'm glad your fluid measure came back higher this time and I hope she turns for you. You still have a lot of time!
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    Fantastic advice. I agree that while I totally understand how frustrated you must feel, it IS still early and really a shame that they're stressing you out so much about it at this point. Not that there's anything wrong at this stage with trying the things you're trying, but I wouldn't lose hope just yet. The short cord issue is also a really good point...we had that situation on the June board a few weeks ago.

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    Many prayers that baby turns and everything works out. Hugs hun!
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    No advice to add, but I am sending turn, baby, turn vibes your way.
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    Turn baby turn! I hope the acupuncture works well for you. My acupuncturist said it would take 2 or 3 visits to get a breech baby to turn, so definitely talk to him/her and see if you need some follow up visits.

    I had an external version with DS at 36+4 and he turned successfully. My docs here said they wouldn't do one until 37 weeks, so you may have another couple of weeks even for that type of thing. It definitely wasn't the most comfortable procedure in the world, by any means, but it's over pretty fast.

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