Lotus Birth

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loveemom's picture
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Lotus Birth

I am curious -what do you ladies think of lotus births (not cutting the cord, letting it fall off naturally)?

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I love the idea of letting baby "let go" when he or she is ready, but the reality of leaving a dead organ attached to my newborn just grosses me out. I love the pictures of baby in a cloth diaper alongside the placenta wrapped in a cloth diaper, but it's enough with a newborn feeding, diapering, sleeping, drinking water, using the bathroom, remembering to eat once in a while, and in my case, recovering from a c-section, I can't imagine adding, "rinse, dry, salt, and herb the placenta twice a day," to that regime.

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I've been curious about lotus birth. My MWs (the ones I've asked) have seen just one and the mother asked to have the cord cut about 12 hours after the birth. I considered it but I'm a little put off by the logistics of getting the whole package home from the birth center. If I were doing a home birth I might do it.

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Eh-- not for me simply bc I don't see the "advantage"-- we waited a long while to cut the cord (esp with my last baby...and by long while, I mean more than a hour or so....)

To each their own, though. And if it something interesting to you, then go for it.

I see more value in saving the placenta for capsulation, and if you intend to do that you need to refrigerate the placenta....

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I don't know a whole lot about it but my MW handed me a book about it when I asked about encapsulating the placenta. From the description I read it seemed like a lot of work and I don't know how I feel about caring for the attached placenta along with new baby. Not for me but I won't knock the practice. It would be interesting to read about someone that has done it though.

Marite13's picture
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Something else I never heard of until I read it here! I got a lot of benefit from encapsulating (and consuming) my placenta, so, I don't think I would do this. Not to mention that I agree, it seems like a lot of work in a time when you are already overwhelmed with things to do.

How long would it take if you didn't cut it? I suppose I could see it working in a culture where moms are not allowed to get out of bed for the month after giving birth, and someone is always taking care of them.

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I, too, don't really see the benefit...I mean, even animals "cut the cord" so it's not like it's more natural to leave it on, honestly. I don't think detaching it from the baby at birth is a negative thing to do...it's part of the birth process. I certainly would not judge anyone else's choices on such a personal matter, but it didn't resonate for me. (We ended up not saving ours at all, although we did seriously discuss the options, and for a while were planning to keep it--DH wanted to ceremonially burn it in a bowl he was making). I do think there is a lot of benefit to various saving/eating/planting plans, but it just turned out to make more sense for us at the time to not have to deal with it.

loveemom's picture
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I am trying to talk DH into at least trying it. I read that the cord shrivels up nicely within 8-12 hours. So he could always cut it then, if he's insisting (or if I change my mind).
But I would love to do this, make a special bag for the placenta, and keep it. I have both of my other kids' umbilical cords, so why not a placenta too? lol

From what I've read, it usually takes 3-5 days for it to detach.

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My preference is to let nature take it's course. When I look at other mammals there is not a single one who lets the placenta detatch on it's own. That tells me that nature doesn't intend for it to be left attached so it's not something I'm interested in particularly.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_birth

This says it takes about 2-3 days. But still...not for me. Derek's placenta was in a bowl for about 2 hours before we cut the cord. Now, it is in the freezer waiting to be planted.

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I wouldn't do it but to each their own! We did keep Lola's attached for about 2 hrs before cutting the cord and then it was set aside for encapsulating. I would hate to miss out on having it encapsulated and being able to ingest it that way.

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I don't see the benefits because I see more benefit to encapsulating it. I also find the whole keeping process just too much on top of caring for a newborn and two others.

jooniper's picture
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I'm with everyone else- just don't see the benefit beyond the first few hours.
My own problem is I'm pretty sure my husband would pass out every time he looked at the baby/cord/placenta:)

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I know someone who did this for the first 3 days, but then cut the cord because it was just so impractical. (Is that a word?)

Personally, I like the idea of it, but again, the practicality is kind of iffy.

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Jenn (jooniper)-- My hubby was the same way! After my placenta came out the midwives put it into a bowl and then transferred me, the bowl with placenta, and baby to the bed (I had a water birth) They had the bowl covered so you couldn't see the placenta and put it between me and hubby under the blankets, and then the baby was with me so my hubby never really saw the cord/placenta until it was time for cutting! It worked out well Smile He wasn't able to cut the cord with our first (a hospital birth) because he thought he would either pass out or throw up. I tell people he was able to cut it the second time because he had "become one with the placenta/cord" since it was in bed with us for 2 hours lol lol

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It's definitely not something that I would want to do. We keep the cord intact for an hour or two before cutting it though.

It's funny, my husband is the exact opposite. He was taking pictures of my placenta and asking a bunch of questions about it and watching my mifwife look it over. haha!

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I love placenta's. They're fascinating. Not so cute in newborn photos though. lol.

I like waiting to cut the cord, but beyond an hour I don't see any benefit to lotus birth.

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I also had never heard of this until now. For me, it is a little too much. I wouldn't judge anyone for deciding to do it however. I agree with Emily that if that was the more "natural" thing to do, then we would see it occur naturally. But like I said, if that is something you are interested in, then look into doing it.

I also am a placenta encapsulating mama, so I couldn't have it both ways anyways.

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We delay cutting for awhile, but I never liked the idea of snuggling my baby and a placenta at the same time. Smile

jooniper's picture
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K, I actually just mentioned this thread to my husband and the mere explanation of what a lotus birth is was enough to make him have to sit down and drink some water, he got so queasy...
(is it wrong that I get so much humor out of making my husband dizzy)?

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:lurk:

A friend's sister did this. Apparently in her case it took 2 weeks for the placenta to detach naturally. She says that the theory behind it (as far as I understand it) is that that way the child can let go of his/her in-utero "friend" when they are ready.

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Jenn, you made me laugh. Smile You're so mean! Wink

loveemom's picture
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I like the idea because (let me see if I can put this correctly) you aren't actually doing anything... Just not cutting the cord and letting it fall off seems very natural. Not natural like that's what we'd do primitively, but more like letting nature take care of itself. I am freqeuntly amazed at the awesomeness and power of nature. It seems like a very peaceful way to be brought into the world.

I brought this subject back up with my husband last night and he said "What's with you women and your hippie attachment to placentas?!" lol I had to laugh. At least he's not grossed out by it.

Illiana's picture
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I remember being fasinated by the idea of it when I heard about it after I had DD. But practically I wouldn't want to do it. too much to deal with. I want to say that there were benefits to it, but i couldn't for the life of me remember what they are or where to even look anymore to find it.

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"loveemom" wrote:

I like the idea because (let me see if I can put this correctly) you aren't actually doing anything... Just not cutting the cord and letting it fall off seems very natural. Not natural like that's what we'd do primitively, but more like letting nature take care of itself. I am freqeuntly amazed at the awesomeness and power of nature. It seems like a very peaceful way to be brought into the world.

I brought this subject back up with my husband last night and he said "What's with you women and your hippie attachment to placentas?!" lol I had to laugh. At least he's not grossed out by it.

LOL my DH is the same way, he doesn't get the whole natural birth thing, he thinks I'm going to stop shaving and smoke a joint while in labour or something :rolleyes:

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according to this: http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=226 it is possible to do both lotus birth and placentophagy, if you keep the placenta in a mini-cooler with ice packs until it detaches...

I can kind of understand why some would want lotus birth, but I don't really think it is for me.

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Definitely not for me. The placenta isn't meant to stay attached, I think it's meant to be eaten just as any other animal placenta is. I won't knock lotus births but I just don't see the benefit.