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Hi, ladies!

Well, I've known about this board, but I guess I always assumed it was for home, water, birthing center, unassisted, etc. births until I stumbled across a post where someone mentioned this board had a lot of VBAC mamas on it. So I thought I'd browse and possibly introduce myself!

My name is Jen and I'm due with our second little boy on 6/21. My first DS was born at 36 weeks via c-section due to fetal distress (non-reassuring fetal heart tones). I went into labor on my own at 35w6d after being on bedrest since 31 weeks for preterm labor, and made it to about 5 cm before the c-section was decided. DS's apgars were 1/8 (he had the cord knotted around his neck three times), so I don't regret the c-section decision at all. However, this time around, I'd like to do things a lot differently!

I'm currently 33 weeks and doing awesome! No signs of preterm labor this time around, so I'm really feeling confident in a fullterm birth this time. I've opted for a natural VBAC in the hospital with my OB this time, and have done tons and tons of research on it. I guess the last part of my journey would include lots of thoughts and opinions from other mamas out there as I inch closer to my EDD. Smile

Anyhow, that's me! Just thought I'd stop in and say hello!

Marite13's picture
Joined: 08/07/09
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Hey Jen! Smile

There certainly are a lot of VBAC mommas around here! You can read some of the recent lodges and birth stories... and I'm sure lots of mammas will have lots of good stuff to tell you! Smile

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Welcome! So glad you decided to introduce yourself. I am excited for your decision to try for a natural VBAC. Glad you don't have any signs of pre term labor this time around. Congrats on your second son! Looking forward to following you on your journey. Smile

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Hey Jen! Welcome! Not sure you remember me or not but we share the February '10 BB. Congrats on baby boy #2! This is an amazing group of women and you are more than welcome here!

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Welcome and congrats on baby #2! There a many VBAC moms around to share info with. I've had 2 VBACs myself and you can read about them in my lodge which is toward the bottom of the first page.

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Thanks for the welcome, everyone! I am excited to read all your stories and hopefully add my VBAC experience in with everyone else who has been successful!

There are three doctors in my practice (VBAC-friendly), but I'm bracing myself for the fact that they MAY try to bully me into a repeat c-section. There is one doctor in the practice that I absolutely ADORE and has been so easygoing about my VBAC, and another doctor in there who has been, I sense, attempting to throw roadblocks at me. I've seen him twice now in the last two months, and both times he asks me the same thing:

How big was your son at 36 weeks? (He was 6.8 lbs)

Have you chosen who you want to do your repeat? (Both times I have told him no, and when I do, I then get the next question)

Oh, you're trying for a vaginal? (YES!)

At which point, he then proceeds to tell me that we'll need to "make sure things fall into place" the closer we get to my due date. The first time he said that, I made him explain what he meant, to which he replied, "We'll have to make sure he's not too big for you". And you know what? I cry BS at that! There is no way this man is going to come near me with his scalpel just because he thinks the baby is too big at delivery. I was told (I'm only 4'11") that I have PLENTY of pelvic room and there isn't any real need to worry. Besides, I'm pretty much on track (if he is full term) for about an 8 lb. baby, so I'm not worried at ALL about that. If he's 10 lb, then we'll talk, otherwise... stay away!

Sigh. Anyhow, I knew things like this might start to crop up. So I've got my birth plan drawn up and my DH knows exactly what I do and don't want, so I'm hoping he'll back me up when the time comes. Aside from that, all I can do is pray that the awesome doc is on call when I go into labor!! Wink

ETA: Kridda (I'm sorry, I don't know your name!), I was actually on the March 10 BB, but I do remember you!! I was due 3/21/10 with DS, but had him a month early in February! Wink

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Welcome!

If that doctor keeps going on about baby size, I'd just refuse any ultrasounds to determine size. They're often wrong and don't mean a whole lot. Mine with DS's was totally off. I didn't even realize at first that was what my OB was doing when he was doing u/s at the end of my pregnancy. :roll: Thankfully I had enough sense to ignore them.

Have you talked about how long they'll "let" you go? I know I've read too many stories where women were told they could only go to 39 weeks or 40 weeks, which isn't very reasonable. Even though you went early with your DS, you could easily go much, much longer this time!

I really hope you get your VBAC!!! Smile

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I'm with Jackie in ignoring the whole size conversation and refusing ultrasounds. It's not like your first was too big, or a c-section due to size! Sounds like you're aware of all that though- any way you can avoid this doc we don't like already? Smile If you start feeling pressured or whatever by any of these docs, definitely keep coming back here and regaining your resolve- these ladies will help you!!

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I totally hate pushy docs like that!

And the big baby card is one of my biggest pet peves ever. After DS1 I had 2 different doctors on 2 different occasions that tell me I would never be able to deliver a baby over 5lbs, 6lbs if I was lucky. Small pelvis, just not made to have a big baby, lucky to have my c/s cause my 8lb 14oz DS1 would just never have fit. Ugh. It was frustrating. I can't tell you how much I would love to hunt down those doctors today and let them know that I indeed did vaginally go on to deliver a 9lb 2oz baby and just recently a 9lb 9oz baby too! I'm only 5'1" and not very larged framed and know that my body makes babies that are right for me and they just happen to be big.

The size of my baby was never an issue with my MW during my first VBAC. My OB, this time, was totally cool with my 2nd VBAC and never even suggested doing a growth u/s ever. Love that she was like that. I did, however, see one of her male colleges while she was out of town and he totally threw out the 'big baby' thing at that appointment. I was shocked. Loved the look on his face when he learned that my previous VBAC had been a 9lb baby. He was floored to say the least and kept asking me if I had had GD and whom was this MW or doctor that let me 'try' to VBAC such a large baby. After that appointment I was soooo glad that he was not the OB I was regularly seeing and kept my fingers crossed I would never run into him when it came time to deliver.

Sorry to go on. Just makes me so mad when doctors try to play that 'big baby' stuff to discourage a mom from having a VBAC. I'm glad you can see past that and that is not what your regular doctor is pushing.

Joined: 05/31/08
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Welcome Jen! Lots of great VBAC stories around here.

Seriously, WHY are doctors still making that stuff up about big babies??? How is it that a layperson can know that it is BS and the doctors for whom it is their JOB to know the most up to date info don't understand that very few women's bodies actually grow bigger babies than they can deliver? It is so rare, and yet they act like MOST women's babies will be too big to deliver. Makes NO SENSE to me. How would humans have ever lasted this long if the majority of our babies were too big to deliver? The only thing I can think of is that it is just more convenient for them if women agree to c-sections and the easiest way to do that is if they scare them with the "big baby" story. They may not even realize that is what they are doing, it's just out of habit.

And Joy, you are such a VBAC hero IMO:

"jolly11sd" wrote:

I can't tell you how much I would love to hunt down those doctors today and let them know that I indeed did vaginally go on to deliver a 9lb 2oz baby and just recently a 9lb 9oz baby too! I'm only 5'1" and not very large framed and know that my body makes babies that are right for me and they just happen to be big.

I love that! You SHOULD hunt down those doctors Smile

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So glad you are here, Jen! I'm excited for your successful VBAC!

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

Have you talked about how long they'll "let" you go? I know I've read too many stories where women were told they could only go to 39 weeks or 40 weeks, which isn't very reasonable. Even though you went early with your DS, you could easily go much, much longer this time!

The doctor that I really love has only been the one to talk to me about this. She told me back when I was first pregnant that they would "let" me go to 41 weeks. I was actually pleasantly surprised by that! I really thought 40 weeks would be my definite cut-off date, especially after I saw that on some VBAC literature, too. After having a 36-weeker, I really can't wrap my head around the idea of going to 40/41 weeks, but I guess weirder things have happened! But I really don't expect to go that long. I really am just hoping to hit 37 weeks this time!! I'm aiming for June 7th at the earliest, though, which is 38 weeks. Wink I hope he cooperates!

I was having a ton of BH's around 31 weeks (same timeframe I got put on bedrest with DS), so they brought me in for an NST and fFN test. My NST was great (had the awesome doc, thank you Lord!) and baby looked excellent. My fFN was negative (which we thought it would be) and when she checked me, I was "completely sealed shut". She said she couldn't even get a fingernail in there if she wanted to. Lol Which is really great! When I went in at 31 weeks with DS (same kind of BH's - lots and lots of them), I was already half a centimeter dilated and really thinned out. So, it's good I wasn't dilated this time around!! I've had minimal BH's for the last few weeks, but the last day or two I've had a lot. I have my 34 week appointment on Wednesday, so I'm debating having her check me. I have an u/s before my appointment, where they'll measure my cervix, so I think if it looks bad on the u/s, I'll have her check me and possibly do another fFN test.

Mara, I plan on not making anymore appointments with the "bad" doctor the rest of this pregnancy! Unfortunately, I don't think there is much I can do if he's on call when I go into labor! Sad

Joy, yes, the big baby card is SO OBNOXIOUS! I read your birth lodge the other night and you are SO INSPIRING!! I may definitely be picking your brain in the next few weeks to make sure my birth plan sounds "good". Smile

I'll definitely be coming to you ladies lots to keep my resolve up!! Ultimately, I want a healthy baby and mama (obviously!), so I hope they don't try to use scare tactics on me the closer I get!

ETA: I wrote this post earlier today and thought I lost it. Since I wrote it, my BH's have disappeared. Ha. I'm wondering if I had a lot due to my MIL totally stressing me out last evening! I'm still upset with her! Must be the hormonal rage. Wink

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Welcome. I hope your VBAC is a success. Once you get closer to the time it might be good to have an idea of the doctors call schedule at the hospital so you don't get stuck with a doctor who isn't supportive. A close friend of mine had a VBAC after 2 c-sections and she had very few doctors that were supportive. She knew the schedule at the hospital in advance though, and was able to get in there when her very supportive OB was on call. She was actually a bit lucky, because when she got there a not so good doctor was around and she had to spend the first hour of so at the hospital fighting with the doctor (until that doctor's shift ended)

Also, your story reminds me a bit of a friend. She had her first baby at 35 weeks. Her 2nd baby she had at 40 weeks and a few days! She was so prepared to go early and the waiting game at the end was awful for her. So just because you had 1 early baby doesn't mean then net one won't go to term (or passed)

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How is the hospital where you'll deliver? If it's very VBAC-friendly, you can tell them to NOT call the bad doctor if he's the one on-call when you go into labor. You might have better chances with a resident who is being nicely indoctrinated, oops I mean properly trained, in the VBAC-friendly ways of the hospital. Smile

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"Spacers" wrote:

How is the hospital where you'll deliver? If it's very VBAC-friendly, you can tell them to NOT call the bad doctor if he's the one on-call when you go into labor. You might have better chances with a resident who is being nicely indoctrinated, oops I mean properly trained, in the VBAC-friendly ways of the hospital. Smile

The hospital I'll be delivering at is super VBAC-friendly! My OB's deliver at two local hospitals, both of which are VBAC-friendly. However, the hospital I had DS at is "less" friendly than the one I will deliver at this time. The place I went to last time is a bigger hospital with more "generic" care. I didn't necessarily have a bad experience there, but I'd like the other hospital more based on their VBAC stats (100 VBAC's out of 400 babies born). The hospital I had DS at has a much lower VBAC success rate. Not to mention, the LC at the hospital I had DS at was absolutely HORRIBLE!! DS was c/s, 4 weeks early, and fully tongue-tied, and she not once mentioned ANY of those as potential hurdles we'd have to figure out. Oh, she told me my milk "might be a little late" due to my c/s, but that was it. Our BFing relationship lasted 3 weeks before my supply was just so low, I couldn't keep up anymore. For the last two years I've blamed myself for not being able to BF, but have recently realized his tongue-tie was most likely a LOT of our problem. I only wish now the LC had done her job and worked with me on that. Sad

Rambling aside, ha! See, I have to call my OB before I go to the hospital. Like with DS, I called the on-call doc, and she was the one who told me to go to the hospital. So, I don't know how I could avoid the bad doc that way?

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If you think you're in labor, go to the hospital. If you're not sure, stay home. Easy peasy. Wink And if you're really unsure & want a second opinion, call L&D and talk with a nurse.

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You can do that? Wink

Also, that IS my biggest fear! Not knowing if I'm in labor! I had back labor with DS because he was oblique and posterior, so I never experienced "normal" contractions! This baby is already head down (LOA, I believe), and I have a lot of groin (butt bone, to be exact) pain this time around I never had with DS. So I'm hoping no back labor, but that makes me scared I won't know what the other kind of contractions are!

ETA: I'll just get on here and ask you ladies if it's real or not. Wink