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    Brittany's rant got me thinking about our medical system in general. Do you girls remember hearing the saying "An apple a day keeps the doctor away" when you were younger? Now, you don't really hear that anymore. It's more like "Take this pill and let me know if you have any 'major' side effects from it".

    A couple years ago my DH and I had some blood work done for life insurance, well, we have high cholesterol. Mine is barely elevated and DH's was just a tad over mine. He went to see our primary care physician (PCP), Dr. Pill Pusher, and he suggested DH get on meds to lower it right away. DH and I talked and agreed that we would both try to lower our cholesterol through diet changes first. Needless to say, Dr. Pill Pusher, didn't like that theory and gave DH 3 months to do it. Even though it's a lifetime accumulated thing, he was on a strict 3 month time limit. Well, he went back 3 months later and it really hadn't gone down so Dr. told him to start taking the pills. Anyway, fastforward a year on meds for it and his cholesterol was lower, but he was having other problems from the meds. Dr. Pill Pusher said well we can put you on this to help with this side effect and that to help with the other side effect. I finally convinced DH to just start seeing my chiropractor and really give a "lifestyle" change some time to work and while we haven't had his cholesterol checked since then he feels better than when he was on the pills anyway. He's losing weight in a healthy way and I would definitely be surprised if his cholesterol hasn't lowered. Oh yeah, we switched PCP's!

    I got a new family dr that was older and from a small town. I like him a lot. When DS was around 5 months he got an ear infection. It wasn't bad, but dr prescribed antibiotics for it anyway. After he finished his antibiotics he got another ear infection within 2 weeks. I opted to just keep an eye on him and let his own body work it out. After that he was fine. He's had some minor ear infections but each time I've let his body work it out and it does, in record time I might add. This same dr asked me at one of DS's well baby checks if I was going to give him juice. I said probably not, I don't see the point. Dr. said well I don't either, but everyone does it so I was just going to go over how much you should give him with you. I asked, why would you even suggest it if you don't even believe it's a good idea, he just shrugged his shoulders and said that people do it because their parents did it and so on.

    I've begun to question everything recently! I've never been a good herd follower anyway, but as an adult I'm finding that just because that's the way it's always been doesn't mean that we should just keep doing it that way.

    Anyone else had an epiphany like this?!

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    My GP (who I only see once a year mostly because she is so hard to get appointments with if you are actually sick, and I no longer live in that town, but travel each year to see her) is really good on complimentary medication and therapy. When I was having issues sleeping in my late teens she would not just hand over a sleeping tablet she went through the natural ways to help me, yet another doctor at the same practice who many of my extended family were seeing was very much a pill pusher, you never left his office without a script.
    I saw another doctor where I used to live who prescribed me "nice night time" anti depressants because I had been feeling run down so went in for blood tests mostly to check my iron, everything came back normal so she decided I was depressed, that was the extent of her evaluation, bloods normal must be depression.
    I don't agree with my current doctor for this pregnancy who has said I shouldn't gain weight before 20 weeks and can hide it until then as well, if my body needs to gain weight early to help this bub grow to be as healthy and strong as it needs to be so be it, I will deal with the weight later, and there is no way of hiding this belly that has started unless I always wear baggy tops which will give it away anyway.
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    Well for me it was being diagnosed with an auto immune disorder and all the hassel I got from doctors around that. I kept being given the line, your levels are fine you must be fine, even though I was feeling horrible. It was not until I got pg the first time that I felt so much better. Then i came to realize my issues where all do to hormonal imbalances, but most doctors will not even recognize this as an issue. I found a great doctor who was really helpful, but I had to pay completely out of pocket and could no longer afford it, so stopped. It just drives me nuts how many doctors I have who would not even listen to what I was going through, or not believe me. All of this was what taught me to be my own advocate when it comes to my health.

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    drakew- I completely understand that too. It seems that you really have to advocate for yourself in most circumstances. My BFF's mom got a regularly scheduled mammogram and they didn't find anything, but she kept telling them that she didn't feel right. She finally found a dr that would listen to her and found out that she did indeed have breast cancer. Thank goodness they found it in time, but if she hadn't spoken up for herself I hate to think how it would've ended

    I see so many of the same problems with general practitioners as we have with OB's. They either don't listen to your concerns or they just come up with some quick fix for it.

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    We're desperately seeking a good doctor, we've had rotten luck lately. I've been misdiagnosed in every way possible. I think the worst was being told as a 16 year old I had PCOS (not true), then in college they told me it was Addisons and put me on hydrocortisone... and I went from 135 lbs to 175 lbs in 4 months! Only to have them decide I didn't have addisons, and take me off the medicine. Blarg!
    Currently I have a UTI and a yeast infection. Both have been treated on and off since november. Hmmm, think they're doing something wrong?
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    YES! I have never been a "run to the doctor right away" person, let alone mom. Mostly b/c at a military emergency room, you are likely to wait for 8-9 hours before being seen. I was always scared to take the baby to the doctor because I thought she might be exposed to even worse "stuff" while we were waiting. It is also common for the military to push antibiotics and tylenol... no matter what the actual issue is. So, with that being said, I got to see a civilian doctor once with Sylvia for a well-child appointment since her PCP was not available. I explained how I rarely come to the doctor, etc, and he told me that almost everything that causes an ear infection in a child they are vaccinated against. I never knew that!! So that just reinforced my theory.

    I always wait several days before I take her to the doctor now when she is sick. A lot of people don't know that for a high fever you can alternate and overlap tylenol and ibuprofen. So you would do ibuprofen every 8 hours and tylenol 4 hours after each ibuprofen dose. If I get a gut feeling we need to go, then I always take her, but if the fever is controlled with tylenol/ibuprofen then I let her work it out. The ONLY time I have ever had that "gut feeling" was when she had RSV in which case I could tell that it was something serious and I needed to take her.

    I guess my epiphany came when I was in for a well-child appointment with a different PCP and they noticed her runny nose. I said that she was recovering from a cold, hadn't had any fever, etc. Well, it happened to be in the middle of the swine-flu chaos, and the doctor had me absolutely convinced that she could have swine flu and they had cases where the child didn't have any fever. SO, I took their recommendation and gave her Tamiflu only to have her vomit her guts out about 2 seconds later and acted more miserable than EVER. Nobody ever called me back to tell me the results of the swine flu test, but I stopped the Tamiflu IMMEDIATELY to wait for the test results. Well, the next week, I finally got ahold of the doctor who said that her test was negative. Hmmm... imagine that! Ever since then, I trust my mommy instincts.

    I have mentioned this to my mom before who works in pediatric nursing and she admitted to me that some parents are so persistent and throw such a fit that some practitioners will prescribe things just to make the parent feel like they are doing something. That is horrendous to me. I would have a real hard time not telling a parent to shove it and go somewhere else if they are insisting on medicine that a child doesn't need!!

    LOL, but I just realized I wrote a book!!! Oops! Yes, I definitely have similar feelings as you regarding "a pill a day".
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    Ariel- That is horrible about the poor baby taking Tamiflu just in case. I would've been peeved. I don't give either of my kids tylenol or any pain reliever for fevers, only for pain. It's worked wonders!!!!! The less I give them, the less sick they are overall. We don't do any OTC meds, just good old fashioned good nutrition. There's a great book I got from my chiropractor that talked about the bodies own defense mechanisms and how tylenol stops the body from doing what it can and should do, kill the germs with heat. It was obviously more detailed than that, but that was the gist of it. It was a very anti-medicine book so I took it with a grain of salt. I do believe dr's have their place, but I don't see why it can't be in conjunction with a holistic approach. The name of the book if you're interested is "Kids First: Health with No Interference" by Ogi Ressel. It was worth the time to read it. He gets a little redundant after a while, but most of his ideas make perfect sense. Since I've implemented the reduction in meds and better diet we are a VERY healthy family now!!!

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    I have had epiphanies similar to this kind of thing mixed in with becoming and remaining a vegetarian. My health improved SO MUCH when I gave up meat (TMI, but from about grade 5 until I was 21 I pretty much suffered from near constant diarrhea/loose stools. That basically stopped once I gave up meat and reduced my dairy intake.). The more I read and the more I find out about how our diets affect our bodies (SO MUCH MORE than we think!) the more amazed I am. And it's hard because I know the whole milk thing is SUCH a touchy subject- there is a population of European background white people that really and truly can digest milk/dairy well, but, I really think it's such a minority of people. I have no intention AT ALL of giving my kid cow's milk, and I know I'll probably get hell for it from a lot of people, but, as far as I'm concered (especially because of my own lactose intolerance) I definitely feel it's the best choice for my child.

    I guess the thing that gets me, is that like with so many other issues that we've talked about relating to pregnancy and health in general, the reason we are where we are is because someone wanted to make money (dairy industry) and it's now to the point where just like we believe epidurals and inductions and c-sections are great first choices, we also believe the same about milk! Sorry, if that opens a whole new can of worms.... but... well, diet has really been where my epiphanies have come- and it certainly relates to the whole "pill a day" thing...

    Oh, and like here's an example that just drove me nuts, but I kept it to myself...on another mom's board an African American (the most notoriously lactose intolerant race) woman posted a question about when to switch her child to cow's milk. She stated that both she and her husband were lactose intolerant, and that she's suffered pretty severely until she realized what her issue was. I think she might have even added that her child had had tastes of milk before, but, rejected it. And YET, she was looking for when to start forcing it down her throat- because obviously, it is so good for you and human babies can't survive without cow's milk. I'm sure her pediatrician is telling her that too...and that it needs to be full fat vitamin D milk or whatever, as well. I don't know...doesn't that just seem crazy to anyone else????
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    I found this thread very interesting. I'm glad to see that there are other folks out there that have encountered pill pushers and antibiotic over kill. I'm a pharmacy technician so I see it all the time. Parents come in like once a week for the same child getting antibiotics. They don't even give the whole course of meds. I've had some where they got a script for an antibiotic in the ER in the morning and then they still go to a night clinic and get another script for an antibiotic. It's crazy... I live in a border town too and those people want antibiotics for everything. In mexico you can get them with out a Rx so they use them for everything. I'm so glad I heard today that they're changing the law in mexico and requiring a script for antibiotics now. And about parents demanding meds... my sister is a nurse at our county hospital in the er and she says the parents will just stay and nag until they get a script for something. They won't accept the fact that their kid has a cold and antibiotics wont work for a virus..It drives me crazy!! I hate pill pusher docs.. we have a couple that we get scripts from all the time and their patients come in with up to 12 rx's at once..its totally ridiculous. I don't even know how these people can keep all the meds and dosing straight. well thanks for letting me vent in your thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marite13 View Post
    And it's hard because I know the whole milk thing is SUCH a touchy subject- there is a population of European background white people that really and truly can digest milk/dairy well, but, I really think it's such a minority of people. I have no intention AT ALL of giving my kid cow's milk, and I know I'll probably get hell for it from a lot of people, but, as far as I'm concered (especially because of my own lactose intolerance) I definitely feel it's the best choice for my child.
    I laughed when I started reading this. I'm not a vegetarian, but we are going through a household diet change, reducing meat and basically thriving on veggies. I've never understood the milk push, but I went along with it until a few years ago. I started noticing that I didn't get sick if I cut out milk. My chiropractor was a huge influence in my decision. Anyway, I let DD have milk on her cereal, but she doesn't drink it out of the bowl when she's done. I honestly haven't touched a drop of milk for several years except the once in a while when a bowl of cereal sounds good. Now, we do still eat cheese occasionally, but not a bunch. DS has never had a glass of milk or a bottle of milk or anything to that effect. My MIL is always on my butt about how he needs milk. I finally told her, he's not a calf so I don't see why he needs cow's milk. We are the only mammal that drinks milk past an age where we stop getting it from our mother's and I just can't understand why that is so hard for people to understand. WE'RE NOT COWS, SO WHY WOULD WE DRINK COW'S MILK!!! But, I did it too for many years *sigh* so I do understand how compelling it is to do when you are told by everyone that it's the thing to do. My mom just had a physical done and bloodwork and her dr told her to keep drinking a half gallon of milk a day because she's in great shape and that's probably what does it. She made sure to point that out to me. I said, fine when you're dr gets her license to practice crystal ball readings let me know and then we'll talk about whether she's right or your lucky to have great genes.

    Got milk? No!!!

    (sorry, if that came off as a snarky post to anyone. i just get frustrated with everyone harping on me about whether my kids drink milk.)

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