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rant about induction

I just saw the facebook status of one of the girls I knew in college saying how happy she is that she is being given the option to be induced at 39 weeks and now she is going to pick the baby's birthday. Her status was "liked" by 6 people, and the comments were all about how that's great for her and she's lucky. Ugh! It bothers me so much because 1) her OB obviously thinks there's nothing wrong with unnecessary inductions and is advising in favor of them, and probably not going over the risks, 2) this woman apparently hasn't researched the risks of induction or benefits of waiting for spontaneous labor, 3) the other women who commented, and mainstream culture in general, support the idea that doctors who offer induction prior to the due date are doing women a favor, saving them from the discomfort of late pregnancy and the stress of not knowing when their baby will come.

Ugh! Since when do we have the right to decide when a baby should be born? The school where I met this girl at was a religious school--doesn't she think that God knows better than her when her baby will be ready? Who do these doctors think they are!?!?

Okay, rant over. Thanks for listening. I just needed to get that out.

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I think a lot of this is due to people just not knowing. Without places like this forum or friends who are educated on NCB, there is no way someone would know, especially when you are supposed to be able to trust your doctor to have your best interests in mind.

I was induced (post-40 weeks) but I was aware of many of the risks and it was not so I could choose the baby's b-day. But I realize now that there was so much I didn't know. It's like doctors today want to keep you in the dark.

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I agree, it's just woeful ignorance. Unfortunately, it's really common in certain areas and cultures to get inductions- I know my sister in Utah got asked regularly "so when are you getting induced".... when she was 37 weeks!
I considered myself well-informed last time around, but I've learned so much more now about why it's important to be patient at the end!

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That's one of the reasons I would stand up and shout at the TV watching "A Baby Story" when I was pg last time. I quit watching it because it mad me so mad. Now we don't get that station anymore, but I wouldn't choose to watch it this time around. It has happened to my SIL's through 6 babies!

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I think the fact that people just don't know is what bothers me so much about it. That, and the fact that we really can't automatically trust doctors. I used to be a woman who did not know anything about birthing options--maybe that's why it's such a big deal to me. Learning about my childbirth choices in the third trimester of my pregnancy with my DD (which this forum was a big part of) was such an eye-opening experience for me, and I'm ashamed of how blind I was before. I want to fight against that kind of ignorance that I used to have.

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It really is amazing how ignorant people are and at times like to be. It drives me up the wall.

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The worst part is that, especially since she's being induced before 40 weeks, in all likelihood her story will go like one I saw through a friend of mine's status updates...

Day 1: Sister is being induced today- yay for a baby today!
Later on Day 1: Hmm...not progressing...no baby- breaking water!
Day 2: Still not progressing...upping pitocin, giving her two more hours....
Later Day 2: Baby not coming- emergency c-section is it!
Late Day 2: Baby is here! Mom and baby healthy! Thank goodness for great doctors!!!

(And I vomit in my mouth as I yell at the computer!!!!!)

I just wish we knew to trust our bodies, that we knew just how intricate a process birth is, and that we knew that we can't just blindly trust doctors!!!

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It really is just SAD how little most people know about risks, etc. and how little trust most women have in their bodies.

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oh, oh, I wanna join the rant.

My BFF is 32 and a half weeks pregnant. The baby is measuring a little big, but not too bad still. Her dr told her yesterday that she will probably go ahead and induce her at 38 weeks! BFF thinks she understands how this all works. She had her DS by induction at 38 weeks and thinks that it went so smooth because she was already dialating. So, as long as this time things are starting then it won't be any big deal. I am fully prepared to chain her butt to a chair in my basement if her dr keeps encouraging her to do this. She thinks she understands, but she really doesn't have a clue!!! I keep trying to explain to her that just because she is starting to dialate doesn't mean baby is ready and just because it worked once doesn't mean it will go as smooth this time! I just don't seem to be getting through to her, so I'm fully committed to kidnapping her to save her from herself......and her dr.

I'm so sick and freakin tired of hearing about how crazy I am that I don't trust the OB's. "Why would they do anything to put you in danger?" "They went to school for 8 years, they know everything!" "You think you know better than them" Well, as a matter of fact, considering that my dr's have both been men and I'm the only one of us that can actually birth a baby, why yes, I guess I do think I know better than them!!! I also trust that God knows better than them and didn't make us with some design flaw that makes birth a medical emergency.

I'm a little fired up right now. I just got my order from Amazon last night and the first book I picked up to read is "Born in the USA: How a broken maternity system must be fixed to put women and children first" by Marsden Wagner MD, MS. So, you can sense my hostility right now. I think I need to switch over to my Ina Mae Gaskin book and calm myself down.

I agree too that it is aggravating, but I think what pains me the most is that I was on that side once, not too terribly long ago. Now that I'm seeing things from the other side and the real research, not the crap ACOG puts out, I'm so incredibly frustrated.

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The "baby is measuring big" thing always cracks me up. Like my sister's friend- got induced because the baby was measuring "over 10 pounds". 2 full days of painful and dramatic pitocin labor later (she's lucky she didn't get a c-section), her "10 pound" baby came out at just over 8 pounds:).
I'm lucky, I get the full support from my husband because he has come to hate doctors- all doctors. So my normally squeamish husband is all for homebirth.

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Sigh, see this is why the birthing system needs to have some renovations. When I hear induction, I think automatic c-section. And that is sad. Why can't we just wait until the baby is good and ready to come out unless there is a serious problem at hand?!?

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The more I learn about NCB the more fired up and passionate I become about it...seriously, what is more important than the start you are giving your children in life? When I read about all the implications of this stuff to the baby, the bonding process, etc etc etc...it really starts to not just annoy but actually horrify me. I don't know where to go with all this feeling, and I don't believe in proselytizing, but at the same time I really want to spread the word and help get some momentum going here--!

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Leigh- I know what you mean. I want to shout it from the rooftops that women are being led astray by the people they put the most trust in, but I'm scared of heights. I'm pushing every girl I know that is thinking about having kids to do their research. I try really hard not to be pushy about getting educated, but sometimes my passion gets the best of me.

Last Christmas one of my SIL's had a Holiday party and to say we are from different backgrounds is quite an understatement. There was a few of her friends there that I've met several times and am quite fond of. One just had a baby via c/s after an induction gone wrong (IMO). She was so thankful that the dr was there to "save" the baby, but after hearing her story and all the interventions I wanted to puke!! But I just bit my tongue and congratulated her on her new arrival. Then one of the other friends says and I quote "I don't see what all the fuss is all about. When we decide to have kids I'm just gonna schedule a c/s. I get to pick the baby's birthday and pick a day when I'm free. No labor. No pain, cause they give you meds for that." My face turned bright red and my mouth shot open and I started spewing risks, statistics for problems in future pregnancies, personal experience with c/s pain and personal opinions about her ignorance faster than my brain could process it. DH was standing about 5 ft away and heard what she said but couldn't get to me fast enough to stop what he knew was inevitable. I have a slight problem controlling my mouth from spewing my thoughts before they are reviewed and DH knows all too well. I felt a little bad about it, but I wish, wish, wish someone had sat me down before I had kids and at the very least tried to get me to educate myself. My SIL and BIL don't have kids yet, but they are probably getting close. As soon as she gets pg I'm mailing her my library of books about birth, labor and our maternity care system and hopefully after she reads them it might help her see my point.

But like you Leigh, I wish I knew what to do with all the information and passion I have about it!!!

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I was one of those ignorant moms-to-be... and thank goodness I have seen the light!! I had the mind-set that "birth is normal, right? i got this!" I was sickeningly unprepared and unknowledgable. Most of it my fault, but some of it was due to poor "informed" consent.

What I really don't get is how people come out of a c/s and then think everything went "wondefully" and then with the next baby they schedule an elective. That is so odd to me. I don't think anything about my c/s went wonderfully and I am scared to DEATH of having another one.

But... when people say things like "I'm so excited for my induction", etc. I just tell them that there are a lot of things to consider and if they want to talk about it further then I am here. I try not to take the "scare tactic" approach b/c then I see myself as no better than the doctors who are encouraging the induction and using scare tactics from the other end.

It doesn't make me mad, but I just kindof shake my head and think man... if they only wanted to know... But the way I see it; the information is all over the place if they are interested. Just like with me; the information was there, but I didn't think it was any big deal. I was arrogant. And I had a friend who had gone NCB and done Bradley. She told me stuff here and there and I was interested in going natural but did nothing to prepare. If they don't ask my opinion or guidance then I just try to bite my tongue and let them go on about their business. It wouldn't be my choice, but some people come out completely satisfied with their birth experiences when they choose induction, c/s, etc.

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I find it frustrating and upsetting too - and I guess I don't get why people don't find spontaneous labor a bit more exciting. I know your terribly uncomfortable and at times sooo anxious to meet your baby, but after all that waiting when you feel those first few birthing waves that let you know your baby will be here soon ~ it makes all the waiting worth it. Not much these days is a true suprise and I think as a society we've become horribly impatient & b/c of that we mess with things we ought not to mess with. (I too learned this the hard with with my 4th child)

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"Watermelon_Gypsy" wrote:

I find it frustrating and upsetting too - and I guess I don't get why people don't find spontaneous labor a bit more exciting. I know your terribly uncomfortable and at times sooo anxious to meet your baby, but after all that waiting when you feel those first few birthing waves that let you know your baby will be here soon ~ it makes all the waiting worth it. Not much these days is a true suprise and I think as a society we've become horribly impatient & b/c of that we mess with things we ought not to mess with. (I too learned this the hard with with my 4th child)

I agree with this! I got caught up in that mind-set w/DD mostly I think b/c DH was deployed. He had a 2-week window he would be home for mid-tour and I wanted to have the baby while he was home. Turns out, it started spontaneously but I had an infection which changed the whole course. I would have been induced though even if I hadn't had the infection if labor hadn't started spontaneously by a particular date. This time, I told him that I don't care what is going on (unless it is a true medical necessity), baby gets to pick his/her birth day. And again, I think it is a lack of education that contributes to most of it. I never knew until my Bradley classes how bad cytotec is and how stressful pitocin is on your baby and your body. I just simply didn't know... and that was my own fault as much as anyone else's. Until I had that "a-ha!" moment I trusted my doctors blindly. I believed that they wouldn't do or suggest anything that would put us at risk. I didn't know there were so many other factors governing the decisions they make.

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Oh gosh I completely agree with all of you. Just so much naivete and ignorance when it comes to the medical births. I could blab on and on about it but for now, I'll just summarize with this:

:banghead:

(Oh and thank you for again reminding me why we choose homebirth!!) Biggrin

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"Panonim" wrote:

:banghead:

well said Biggrin