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What are/were your vaccination plans for your DD? I don't want a debate, just more information please.

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We vaccinate on schedule. After doing a lot of research I came to the conclusion that I fear the diseases the vaccines prevent far more than I fear any potential side effects. I would prefer to do a delayed vaxing scheme (to better nail down allergic reactions) but that would require so many more appointments of screaming and pain and since we started daycare at 11 weeks and have no family history of reactions to vaccines we thought it best to just bite the bullet and do the regular schedule. I did, however, delay newborn vaccinations until her 2 day checkup. I didn't want my birth experience (and her's) to be tainted by needles and I didn't see her running into HepA between the birth center and our house. We vaccinated against chicken pox after a lengthy debate and talk with our pedi. Not sure if you know but our DHs are highly susceptible to the herpes viruses. Their whole family gets colds sores and Izzy's had shingles twice. I figured that if T were to not be vaccinated and get chicken pox naturally it could be BAD. So, while I think its rather silly to vaccinate against something that I experienced as no worse than a mild case of poison ivy, I took our family history into account and decided to give it to her.

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"TiggersMommy" wrote:

We vaccinate on schedule. After doing a lot of research I came to the conclusion that I fear the diseases the vaccines prevent far more than I fear any potential side effects. I would prefer to do a delayed vaxing scheme (to better nail down allergic reactions) but that would require so many more appointments of screaming and pain and since we started daycare at 11 weeks and have no family history of reactions to vaccines we thought it best to just bite the bullet and do the regular schedule. I did, however, delay newborn vaccinations until her 2 day checkup. I didn't want my birth experience (and her's) to be tainted by needles and I didn't see her running into HepA between the birth center and our house. We vaccinated against chicken pox after a lengthy debate and talk with our pedi. Not sure if you know but our DHs are highly susceptible to the herpes viruses. Their whole family gets colds sores and Izzy's had shingles twice. I figured that if T were to not be vaccinated and get chicken pox naturally it could be BAD. So, while I think its rather silly to vaccinate against something that I experienced as no worse than a mild case of poison ivy, I took our family history into account and decided to give it to her.

I think that is totally reasonable but in my case I came to the opposite conclusion. I *do* have family history of reactions to vaccines and not any of the diseases, so I am taking a "delay until I see a really compelling reason" line on the whole thing, which has resulted in no vaccines so far. I really don't want to enter in to any debate about this topic at all because I think it's a really personal decision and I feel comfortable with my decision for my family--no judgment on anyone else's decisions, and I appreciate the same respect Smile I do want it to be known that our extended delay/"considering each vaccine on its individual merits and risks should a need arise" position is NOT a knee-jerk reaction to a single discredited autism study, but the upshot of a lot of careful evidence-based research and consideration of data. I am fortunate to have a pediatrician who disagrees but respects my position and does not hound me about it. As far as daycare, she will just have to leave the school for the duration of the outbreak of any vaccine-related diseases, which I am totally prepared to deal with (and they said has never happened anyway)

I'll continue to reevaluate as she ages, since part of it for me is that baby systems are still developing and so much more vulnerable to disruption. I feel much more comfortable vaccinating an older child.

ETA Another big part, though, is that I have seen plenty of convincing evidence that the decline of most of the diseases we vaccinate against is due much more to things like cleaner water, advanced sewage systems, nutrition, fresher food, and other improvements in public health that help people's immune systems get stronger rather than due to vaccines (most were sharply declining BEFORE the vaccine was introduced). If I traveled to an area where one of these diseases was still rampant, it would be an entirely different matter. But living in middle America with very little exposure to third world populations, I think that most vaccines introduce unacceptable risk for little payoff.

And I totally agree with you that getting to hear other people's experiences is one of the best things about preg.org Smile

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"TiggersMommy" wrote:

We vaccinate on schedule. After doing a lot of research I came to the conclusion that I fear the diseases the vaccines prevent far more than I fear any potential side effects.

This is true for us, too.

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Thanks guys! I just wanted to know what others have done. So many decisions about things, that it's nice to hear what others have done.

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We absolutely do. I see it as part of living in community and a way in which I can help improve not just my own kids health, but also protect the more vulnerable in our society. Herd immunity is important, and large groups opting out of vaccinations weaken the protection of vaccinations as a whole. We also travel and plan to travel internationally frequently with our children, so want to protect them. The only one we delay is Hep B as I don't want to vaccinate my newborn, so we do it at the 9 month visit as there are no other shots then.

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I really liked Dr Sears' Vaccine Book. It's a good starting point to get information and start deciding what's best for your family. It got me to question and search around a bit more. I have no issues with vaccinations, I just feel that there's too many too young. Hep B is one where I don't get why it's given at birth. There's no good reason for it for most people. So Aiden is 3/4ths up to date. The rest waits until he's a bit older and there's a break in the normal vaccine schedule. For us it's not a big deal to break things up because we don't have to schedule an appointment with a doctor or anything - just show up to an immunization clinic and tell them what he's getting that time (the one thing the military did get right :p).

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

I really liked Dr Sears' Vaccine Book. It's a good starting point to get information and start deciding what's best for your family. It got me to question and search around a bit more. I have no issues with vaccinations, I just feel that there's too many too young. Hep B is one where I don't get why it's given at birth. There's no good reason for it for most people. So Aiden is 3/4ths up to date. The rest waits until he's a bit older and there's a break in the normal vaccine schedule. For us it's not a big deal to break things up because we don't have to schedule an appointment with a doctor or anything - just show up to an immunization clinic and tell them what he's getting that time (the one thing the military did get right :p).

ITA with this, and it's something my HMO gets right, too! As long as our ped enters it into the computer, I can show up whenever I want & just go to the vaccination clinic with no co-pay! It also eliminates the fear of the ped for the child because there's no connection between the ped and the shot. Smile

We live in a large city that does experience epidemics of some of the major preventably diseases on a regular basis. We also ride public transit a lot, which is like a big rolling germ factory. I have actually had to tell BOTH of my kids, "Stop licking the bus!" :puke: So we did want to vaccinate for most things, and we pretty much followed Dr. Sears' delayed vaccination schedule. We spread them out so the kids never got more than two pokes, or four vaccines, at once. I'm still not convinced that a child's tiny body can handle the 5 or 6 or 7 vaccines that they want to give at one time. We didn't do HepB because it is an STD that our kids are not at risk for. We also didn't do Chickenpox right away for Tiven because we hoped to expose her to Chickenpox naturally. We did decide to vaccinate her for it when I was pregnant with Weston because there was an epidemic (half her preschool was out sick & she still didn't get it!) and we didn't want to risk Weston getting it as a newborn. There's conflicting information on whether breastfeeding provides immunity to chickenpox or not, and I wasn't willing to be the test subject. I can't remember if we've given Weston the Chickenpox vaccine yet or not. :oops:

And the reason HepB is given at birth is because the medical establishment doesn't trust women enough to know whether they might be infected or not. :roll: They treat everyone as being at risk and therefore all babies are at risk and therefore all babies need the shot at birth.

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We have done a bit of a delayed schedule. Our pediatrician is cautious and doesn't like to give more than 3 vaccines at a time so we are quite a bit behind the actual schedule. I'm very glad about this because one of my biggest concerns was too many too young and at once so it works for us. We are more comfortable giving the vaccines as no family history of problems, both kids are in daycare 3 days a week as well. It really is a very personal decision, good luck!

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They give so many vaccinations now, even compared to 10 years ago when my first two were babies. I agree with waiting on Hep B. I don't know why they are in such a rush. It's a blood borne pathogen. You can only get it through sex or blood exposure. I don't think my newborn is going to be sharing needles or having sex.

I'm considering a modified schedule so that my kid won't be getting six or seven vaccines at once. Does anyone know of any good research on this subject? Any information on how many vaccines it's safe to give at once? I know certain ones you can only get in combination any more, like DTaP.

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They give so many vaccinations now, even compared to 10 years ago when my first two were babies. I agree with waiting on Hep B. I don't know why they are in such a rush. It's a blood borne pathogen. You can only get it through sex or blood exposure. I don't think my newborn is going to be sharing needles or having sex.

I'm considering a modified schedule so that my kid won't be getting six or seven vaccines at once. Does anyone know of any good research on this subject? Any information on how many vaccines it's safe to give at once? I know certain ones you can only get in combination any more, like DTaP.

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I agree with PP that Dr. Sears's vaccine book is a great source of information on alternative scheduling Smile

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We vaccinated DS on schedule. I didn't have time to do the research I wanted beforehand, so we ended up just going along with everything. I think vaccines for the most part are a good thing and save lives, even though they also kind of freak me out, but I plan to be a bit more cautious this time. I'd like to follow the Dr. Sears schedule with this one, and delay the Heb B and probably skip the chicken pox. I kind of regret giving DS that one. We also don't do flu shots in my house, much to all of our doctors' chagrin.

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"TiggersMommy" wrote:

We vaccinate on schedule. After doing a lot of research I came to the conclusion that I fear the diseases the vaccines prevent far more than I fear any potential side effects.

We also vaccinate for this same reason. Had a doctor friend tell us a scary story about an 11 year old that came into the ER with leg pain. They had a hard time figuring out what was going on. It turned out that the 11 year old had somehow contracted Polio, and having never been vaccinated, ended up losing all function of both legs at the tender age of 11. I guess up until recent years, there wasn't a lot of debate about vaccinating children, it was just something that people did, so there was no chance of these diseases becoming epidemic or anything (I still doubt there is, but I know there are cases occurring again). These days, with the scare of autism and other things, there has been quite a lot of debate, and many, many parents choosing not to vaccinate at all. So maybe that is allowing room for some of these strains, like Polio, to emerge, especially in larger cities where there is a lot of immigration. I just can't take that chance with my daughter. I do, however, really like the idea of the delayed schedule. At her one year appointment, I recall her getting 7 shots all at the same time. She had them in both legs AND both arms. That just seemed so extreme to me at the time! We have been lucky and she has never had any reactions to shots, not even fever. But as everyone keeps telling me, all babies/children are different. So I am also taking this discussion into serious consideration for my son.