A week overdue

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A week overdue

Ok, so I'm not *quite* a week overdue...6 days - just about. I know I'm still within the normal range, but I'm getting to the point where I'll do just about anything for this baby to come (short of castor oil and a pitocin induction). The longest they'll let me go is until Friday - 9/3. I've tried pressure points (with and without clary sage EO) and relaxing with the Hypnobabies Fear Clearing track. Both of my girls were overdue - DD1 was 4 days and DD2 was 3 days according to LMP, but 7 days according to O date. My previous labors started after a couple of nights of DTD...but we haven't been doing that. My cervix is pretty ripe - on 8/16 I was 2+ cm dilated, 70% effaced and very soft, so I don't feel like I necessarily need the prostaglandins, but I read that orgasm can release oxytocin...does anyone know anything about that?

Anything else I can try? I don't really have $$ to go out and buy any herbs or anything, so it would have to be free or really cheap Smile

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Ugh, I'm sorry. I have so much admiration/sympathy for anyone who goes past their "guess date".
Orgasms definitely make me contract, even from the start of pregnancy.
(TMI to follow)
We had sex the morning we had Daniel to get things going- I don't think I even Oed (after 8 weeks of pelvic bedrest, it was not our most wonderful sex ever) but I think just the act of having something in there poking around and stirring things up definitely got things going. Certainly doesn't hurt anything, right?

I'ma assuming you've tried nipple stimulation and long walks and stuff? Nipple stim is what got my sister Lori's most recent labor going.

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Nipple stim totally got my last two labours going. I used an electric pump for nipple stimulation. Great thing is that if it feels too intense you can just stop with the stimulation. Smile

Castor oil helped with #3 too and it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone told me it would be. Infact, I got tons of great contractions but no cramping or diarrhea. I would definately try it again if I go postdates.

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I haven't done walks...I've heard that all it does it wear you out. We did walk around Target today, though. I don't feel like I've had as many contractions this time around, which kind of worries me. Even doing the pressure points doesn't make anything happen. I mean, I'll have them here and there, some stronger than others, but I thought they'd get more frequent by now.

What's the best way to do nipple stimulation?

I think we'll definitely try sex tonight. You're right...it couldn't hurt! It would be funny if she made her arrival tomorrow sometime - as both girls were born on Sundays!

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I found it easiest to use a pump. I used an electric pump on the lowest setting. 10 minutes on 5 minutes off, for an hour. Switching sides every once in a while. Got contrax coming every 4 minutes both times.

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Thanks Emily. Sorry, I didn't see your previous post - I was typing! I have a double pump, I think I'll try that. Does it affect your milk in any way? I would hate for milk to come in and me still be pregnant! Though I would guess that you'd need a lot more stimulation than just an hour for your milk to come in.

I don't think I'm quite ready to try castor oil quite yet. If I get to the middle of next week, I think I'll do it. But it's good to know that it doesn't give everyone diarrhea!

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The thing that triggers your body to produce milk is getting rid of the placenta. No worries about any amount of pumping at this stage in the game! Your milk will wait for baby, and your body will continue to produce colostrum until your milk comes in. Smile

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I would think that even if the sex doesn't "ripen" your cervix anymore, maybe just the act of being intimate with DH would help you, maybe not to go into labor but I know I always feel like a saner person after a really good intimate session, you know, the kind that makes you melt on the inside and relaxes every last muscle in your body. Ask him to put forth his best love making skills to help you relax, maybe a nice long sexy massage that leads to the "goods". I know Ina May talks about kissing during labor and how the act of kissing relaxes a woman and helps her get into a good contraction pattern, so make out like teenagers at a drive inn for a while beforehand too Biggrin Maybe that would be enough for your body, if not, it would at least be fun Smile

Just a thought!

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1st, they don't "let you" or make you do anything. It's your body. You decide. If you don't want to be induced on Friday, they can't do anything about it.

2nd, do you know what position baby is in? Malpresentation can delay the onset of labour. If babe isn't in a good position, maybe try some suggestions from spinning babies?

3rd, is chiropractic care an option? Some insurances will cover it. An adjustment might help align things so that the baby can get into a great position and help speed things along.

The bottom line though, is that in a healthy pregnancy with a healthy baby, the baby decides when it's going to come. For some that's at 38 weeks, for others, like me, it's 42+ weeks.

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"Amber_daisy" wrote:

1st, they don't "let you" or make you do anything. It's your body. You decide. If you don't want to be induced on Friday, they can't do anything about it.

2nd, do you know what position baby is in? Malpresentation can delay the onset of labour. If babe isn't in a good position, maybe try some suggestions from spinning babies?

3rd, is chiropractic care an option? Some insurances will cover it. An adjustment might help align things so that the baby can get into a great position and help speed things along.

The bottom line though, is that in a healthy pregnancy with a healthy baby, the baby decides when it's going to come. For some that's at 38 weeks, for others, like me, it's 42+ weeks.

I know they can't make me do anything, but if I want to stay under their care, I have to play by their rules. 42w is the longest I can go and still be in their care. And that's what I'm planning on doing because we definitely don't have the money to go to a birth center or have a home birth. (Yes, I know it's less expensive than a hospital birth, but I'm on Medicaid which covers 100% - so free is cheaper than $2000.)

She's definitely head down, usually on my left side. Either LOP or LOA...but probably LOP. I usually feel hands in front. Although...right now I can feel her back across my belly, which makes me think she's LOA or OA. I did just spend some time on my hands and knees, so maybe that allowed her to rotate. When I was checked last Monday, the MW said she was at a -1 station, and I'm pretty sure she's dropped a bit since then.

I've been seeing a chiropractor regularly since I found out I was pregnant. My last appt was 8/16. I will definitely go this next week if she hasn't come this weekend.

I know that anywhere between 38-42w is normal, I'm just getting nervous about induction. I've technically never gone this far "overdue," so it's making me anxious. I know, every pregnancy is different - and this one definitely is different than my other 2...I was just hoping it would be different in that she would come early...lol!

I used my pump a couple hours ago - only for 30 minutes (off and on) because I started to get some fairly good contractions. As soon as I stopped, they slowly went away, but I'll still have one every now and then. I don't want to do it any more tonight, for fear of causing contractions that just linger but don't allow me to sleep. So I'll see how the night goes, get some sleep and maybe try it again in the morning!

Thanks for the help everybody! I'll keep you updated! And if you have any more suggestions, feel free to share!

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I hope something starts happening soon! I have no suggestions that haven't already been given.

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DTD and lots of walking helped things along for me. My kiddos were 10 and 11 days past EDD respectively. Honestly I feel like my son was hanging in there for a while because of my anxiety over leaving my daughter. We actually left for the hospital in the middle of the night with only sporadic, non-painful contractions (it was a 2 hour drive), but simply the act of leaving and knowing that my daughter wouldn't be awake for many hours made contractions pick up considerably! So next time I'll be more aware of this fear. Do you have any hold ups or fears that might be delaying things?

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I went two full weeks past my due date. A walk to the library and back seems to be what got things going....:wink: DS has been late ever since! (and he's 39 now!)

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Well what I was going to suggest has already been suggested. The nipple stimulation will help. The proglatlins in semen will help ripen the cervix.

I will tell you this though that an ob can NOT drop you as a patient I think it is after 36w without first finding you another doctor. Just so you know. Smile

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"Mom2ThreeKiddos" wrote:

I will tell you this though that an ob can NOT drop you as a patient I think it is after 36w without first finding you another doctor. Just so you know. Smile

Actually, it was my understanding that they cannot drop you AT ALL past that point in pregnancy. So if that's a worry, just look into it. You'll probably find that you DON'T actually have to play by their rules...especially if their rule is induction.

And I've read (excuse me if it's outdated...my little guy is nearly 3 now!) that nipple stimulation needs to take place for an hour at a time, 3 times a day to be effective. Sounds fun, right? Lol Just think though, I didn't have a breast pump and had to do it manually. Wink I still don't think it did anything though. Sad I'm pretty sure what got me going was releasing my fears (at 42 weeks exactly, which was supposed to be D-day, my doc "let me off the hook" so to speak, and didn't even mention induction...she just swept my membranes again and told me to go home and rest) and pity sex with my husband. I call it pity sex because it really didn't do anything for either of us. I got the goods though and that's what counts. I woke up in labour the next morning.

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Thanks ladies. I always just assumed that it was my midwives' and the hospital's policy that they wouldn't provide care for me past 42 weeks. It's definitely something I'll talk to them about if I make it to my appointment on Wednesday. Hopefully I don't have to, though!

The pump and sex helped last night - I was having good contractions...to the point where I really thought things were going to pick up in the middle of the night. But it's 10:15am and I'm still here...not contracting but every now and then. Sad I'll try using the pump longer today.

I do have fears with this labor. That's one reason I've tried listening to the Hypnobabies Fear Clearing track. Labor with DD1 was long and hard, but I did it. DD2 was so quick, easy and painless. I'm worried that something is going to go wrong. And lately I've been wondering why I choose natural birth. Seems silly, because I know why I do - and it's not to prove anything. I know the advantages and the empowerment of a natural birth, but I keep wondering why I just don't take the "easy" way out like everyone else. I guess I've just had more experience, read more books, and talked to more people with this pregnancy than I have in the past. I'm really trying to get over these fears and relax (it's extremely difficult with a 3 year old and an 18 month old)...because I do think that may be what's holding me back. And also that the midwife I like the least in the practice is on call all weekend...lol.

Maybe this baby just isn't ready?

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Honestly, if you're doc should refuse care for you not agreeing or showing up for the induction -I have no idea if they can do this or not, but if it does happen, just show up at the hospital in labor and they can't legally turn you away. You'll get stuck with whatever doc is on call that day so that may not be worth it but it is an option.

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Hugs hun! Here is a good article on nipple stimulation:

http://www.birthingnaturally.net/cn/technique/nipple.html

If you have a midwife she may not be able to provide care for you after 42w. Here in my state after 42 weeks you have to be transfered to an ob. I am pretty sure it is patient abandonment if they don't provide you with alternative doctor. The hospital on the other hand really has no say. If you go to the ER in labor you can not be turned away. They have to care for you. That is the law. Ask your midwife and see what happens if you go over 42w and what their policy is. They can do bpp u/s to make sure baby is ok etc.

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It's funny - I'm all about educating yourself with your different options in pregnancy and giving birth, but I've never thought about the different options I have for going "overdue." I've never had to worry about it. I definitely don't want an OB though. I would honestly rather be induced with a midwife than take my chances with an OB who doesn't agree with my birth plan and I have to fight with. But if I get to that point, I'll figure it out. The OBs that my midwives work under may be very receptive to a NCB.

Anyway, used the pump again this afternoon, and I had some good contractions again...but nothing that stuck. We just took a walk and I had some contractions during that, but now we're home and I'm just sweaty and tired. Sad DH and I talked about all the fears I have - which turned out to be more than I originally thought, and I think I've vocalized all of them. I still have to come to terms with some of them, but at least they're out there. So I took a look at the site Christy suggested and I think I'll try that, but for the most part I'm just going to relax unless we get to mid-week. Something obviously isn't quite ready if these contractions aren't sticking.

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"LornaRose" wrote:

Something obviously isn't quite ready if these contractions aren't sticking.

I think this is the healthiest way to look at it. My little guy, born at 42w1d had no signs of post-maturity whatsoever. My placenta was perfect. No calcifications. Everyone in the L&D room thought that I for sure had my dates wrong, that I couldn't have been that far over. My own doctor (a GP) went back and looked at my 2 u/s's, one at 12 weeks and one at 19 weeks, and both had me 3 days ahead of my dates. According to my u/s's I would have been 42w4d.

Some babies just take longer to be ready. That's just the way it is!

BTW, if you need confidence in deciding to decline induction for post-dates, read this:

http://www.lamaze.org/Research/WhenResearchisFlawed/PosttermPregnancyCochrane/tabid/173/Default.aspx

You can find even more info in Henci Goer's Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth. Specifically, the chaper on induction. Also read the appendix at the end of the book for that chapter, the part on induction for post-dates. She really gets into the reseach on the subject.

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Have you had a stretch and sweep done? That's what put me into labour at 41 weeks when nothing else was doing anything and I hadn't had a single contraction or cramp or bit of show or anything up to that point.

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Try going to the chiropractor for a Webster Adjustment. Not that the baby is breach, but your baby's head and bones may not be aligned that great. I did this and had a baby less than 24 hours later. My body would start to go into labor and then decide that it couldn't. Derek's head was slightly ****-eyed and he couldn't descend.

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Alrighty, I'm still pregnant, but I am waaaay less stressed than I was before. I decided to call and try to get in to the midwives' today and talk to them, maybe have her strip my membranes. I'm pretty fearful of that because I feel it's too much intervention and I've never had to have it done, but at this point it may be what I need. Anyway, I was able to get an appt today at 2:40 with the same MW who I have my appt with on Thursday (Jessica). When she came in the room she immediately recognized me (I'm sure it helped that she knew my name beforehand) - which most of them don't, but she seems to have a really good knack for remembering people. Anyway, she asked how I was doing and I immediately became all emotional because I'm so freaked out about being induced. I told her that I feel like I've tried everything, but nothing is sticking, which makes me think that something just isn't ready yet. She said that we don't have to do something on Friday - that we can wait until Sunday (42w exactly, and conveniently, she's on call that day!). And we don't even have to go straight to pitocin - we can try breaking my water, or stripping my membranes. We then talked about that and she suggested that if I am still pregnant and go to my appt on Thursday, then we'll do it then.

She checked me and I am a "solid 3cm," almost a 4, 80% effaced and still a -1 station. So, physically, I'm ready to go. She wanted to check my fluid and do an NST just in case, which we did. Fluid was at 12.72 (normal range is 5-20), and NST looked great (besides the fact that my uterus did absolutely nothing the entire time). So we're just waiting! But now that I know I have an extra couple days and that I don't have to jump straight to pitocin, there's a lot less stress on me. I feel so much better and relaxed...maybe I can actually relax enough to go into labor! Oh, and she's on call tomorrow!

Thanks for all the help, everyone!

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Oh Lorna, how frustrating this must all be for you! I was waaaay postdate with my first baby (she was born at 41w5d, if I recall) and had to transfer care to an OB because my blood pressure was going up and placenta was calcified, but nothing (including a membrane strip) would put me into labor. It is a very frosting and scary place to be, but your body is SO much more favorable for any induction than mine was, going by your Bishop's score with that dilation. Any induction they do try could be the push your body needs to go, or time will do it for you before intervention is needed.

Keep heart and stay calm!

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I would opt for the membrane strip before any other induction techniques. If it doesn't stick, then there's little risk involved. You can't go back after having your water broken, and it puts you on the clock for a c/s. Even pit can be turned off.

So were it me, I'd go for the membrane strip on Thursday. If it doesn't start anything by Sunday then I'd go for a very minimal amount of pit and have it turned off once contractions seemed to be consistent.

Good luck! Hopefully babe will decide to come before then anyway. Seems to work out like that pretty often.

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And continue with the breast pumping. And visit the chiropractor like I suggested above. Good luck. No one has stayed pregnant forever (Please remind me of this in December..LOL)

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You have gotten great advice. Baby should be here very soon!