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~*~ Jen's (JDBabyHopes) lodge!!! ~*~

SO SO sorry this is about a week late. Sad Welcome to your lodge! Can't wait to follow the last stretch of your pregnancy and your birth!

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Aw, I'm sorry I didn't notice as well! Welcome to your lodge, Jen! So looking forward to following what will surely be a triumphant VBAC for you!!! Smile

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Welcome to your lodge! I am looking forward to following this journey with you.

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Thanks everyone! I'm super excited to have my lodge! Smile I will have to come back and update a little about me and my birth with DS!

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Welcome to your lodge Smile

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Okay, a little background on me!

DH and I met the summer of 2003 while working summer jobs between semesters. The minute I met him, I KNEW I would marry him! Such a weird thing, but totally true! We started "officially" dating the summer of 2004. He proposed (candles, rose petals, Nora Jones...! ;)) three years later, and in May of 2008, we were married! Our original plan was to TTC two years after we got married, but for some reason (I can't remember why now), we decided to TTC the month after our first wedding anniversary. I for sure thought my wonky, long cycles would lead to a possibly long TTC, but lo and behold, we conceived our very first month!

My pregnancy with DS was relatively uneventful until I started contracting at 31 weeks. I was put on bedrest, and after hanging out at .5 cm and "thin" with constant, painless contractions for 5 weeks, I delivered DS at 36 weeks exactly by c-section. I had terrible back labor with him and was in labor all day Saturday before I called my OB around midnight that night. It sounds funny now, but I had no idea about back labor then! Boy, do I know now. Wink After I was admitted, I was forced in bed on my left side with an oxygen mask due to his heart rate not varying. After an AROM, internal monitor, and epi, my OB performed a "scratch test", where she scratched the top of his head. His heart rate was supposed to shoot up, but instead if plummeted from the 150's to 80 in the blink of an eye. At that point, it was decided that he was in fetal distress, and I was later wheeled in for a c-section. DS was born at 9:14am at 6 lbs. 8 oz. (a chunker for 36 weeks!) and 19" long.

While I totally feel that my c-section with DS was warranted (his first apgar was a 2!), I definitely do NOT want to go that route again. My doctor is VBAC-friendly, which I knew even before I'd had DS. It's nice both of the local hospitals support VBAC's, so I have plenty of options. I've chosen the smaller hospital (over the city hospital from last time), due to it's better VBAC success rate and nurses to patient ratio (much better than the bigger hospital). I've also had several friends deliver there who had amazing experiences, so I am looking forward to it!

So yeah, that's my story in a nutshell. Wink

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Stupid double post! Smile

I guess I can use this to update with my latest appointment!

Last Wednesday I had my 36 week appointment. I had an ultrasound prior to the appointment because they have been watching his ureters (tubes from kidney to bladder). They are slightly dilated, so they have been monitoring them my third tri. As of last week they are still a bit dilated, but it's very minimal. All organ function is fine, it's just these tubes. At this point they will monitor his input/output of urine after birth, and go from there. Worst case scenario is he'll need a cath to "straighten" his tube out and fix it. He also had the cord around his neck at my 34 week u/s, but it was not there last week! So yay for that.

As for the appointment, it went fine! Baby is looking and sounding good, cervix is still pretty thick (according to measurement on u/s). I had the VBAC discussion with this OB, and he of course gave me the super long "scare tactic" speech. He basically told me horror stories of uteri (such a weird word) rupturing and blood shooting across the room and people dying. Yeah, it was a lovely conversation. I love how he never discussed the risk of repeat c/s to me, though. Blum 3

At this point, they are playing (once again) the big baby card. At my u/s last week he was measuring between 6.15 and 7.8 lbs. My OB has scheduled a weight check/position u/s for 38 weeks, but to be honest, I may decline that. He swore up and down that he wouldn't let me VBAC if baby was over 4,000 grams (~8.13 lbs) next week, but u/s can be so wrong on weight! I also checked ACOG guidelines, and they say suspected fetal macrosomia (big baby) is not grounds to dismiss a VBAC on solely. I honestly don't think he's any more than my DS was at this point, and am probably looking at an 8.8 pounder at my due date. I'm not afraid of that! But I'm only 4'11", so I think my OB automatically thinks I won't be able to handle it.

So, that's where we are! Next appointment is Thursday... 37 weeks!

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Yay for a good pregnancy so far and no bedrest. I'm sorry the doctor did the scare tactice speech today. Glad it didn't put you off. I hate the big baby card too. BTDT. I shocked some doctor a few months back when he learned my first VBAC was a 9.2lb-er, he would die if he knew my 2nd VBAC was 9.9lbs...lol. I'm shorter too at 5'1", ok almost. Wink

Excited for your VBAC!

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Glad you had a good appt...sorry about the "big baby" card getting played. Bummer. I really feel for you ladies going for VBACs. I had no idea what you were up against as far as the "establishment" goes until I started reading some of the lodges of women going for VBACs here. I hope your doctor gets over it and that you get your VBAC!

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At this point the weight estimate is based only on the size of the babies head, which can be effected so much by genetics and have nothing to do with weight. I am sorry they are being jerks about this Sad

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Sucks about the "VBACs are awful" speech. Is that the OB you'll have in labor?

The big baby thing is so silly! There is no reason to not at least see what happens! Plus, u/s are notoriously wrong on weight estimates late in pregnancy.

Hope your appt this week goes well!

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At this point the weight estimate is based only on the size of the babies head , which can be effected so much by genetics and have nothing to do with weight. I am sorry they are being jerks about this Sad

I mentioned this to DH last week. I noticed at my u/s last week they only measured his head and femur, both of which are measuring ahead. At 34 weeks, they were measuring 3 weeks ahead, and last week at 36 they were measuring only a week ahead. I assumed measuring ahead meant his weight would be higher! Also, his belly and everything else is measuring right on my dates, so I think the bigger head and leg measurements are throwing his weight off.

Kris, yes this could *possibly* be the OB I have while in labor. There are 3 in the practice, so I guess it will depend who is there when I go into labor!

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How are the other docs in the group?

Maybe the longer femur just means baby will be long and lean Smile

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The other two are okay. I haven't seen either of them in the last few weeks, so I'm hoping to see them in the final upcoming appointments!

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That's so annoying. My DD had a 90th percentile head and is 95th percentile in height and was only 8lbs even at 41+1. Long and lean! Thank god nobody gave me any u/s after 20 weeks.

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Do you get to pick which doc you get to see at your appointments?? Or is it whoever is there and available when you have your appointment? That would be weird...

I agree that baby's size shouldn't be an issue. Those late u/s are SO unreliable for that!

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I can choose who I see, more or less. In fact, I see my fav doc next week for my next appointment! We'll see what she says.

I had my 37 week appointment this morning, and all went well! Surprisingly, he didn't mention doing an u/s next week to check size/position, and I sure as hell wasn't going to remind him! Wink He felt around himself and told me he's about 7 lbs., which sounds WAY better than the 7.5 lbs. they were telling me last week. I tend to believe the doctors more than the u/s at this point. And it is much more in line with my last pregnancy. DS was born at 36 weeks (so, a week earlier than I am now) and he was 6.8 lbs. So it makes sense this guy is weighing in at 7 lbs. a week later. He didn't say much more on the baby's weight, so I'm hoping that's a good sign!

I didn't get checked, but my doc didn't think I'd be dilated at all. He said the baby's head is sitting right on my pubic bone (and in turn causing a loooooot of pain. I have hurt so bad this past week in my pelvis and bowels, if that makes sense). He said (and this is why he renews my faith in him periodically) that there was no point in doing a check today and introducing unnecessary bacteria, etc. So I was super happy! I was going to decline anyhow, but he made it easy. Wink I think I'll have them check next week.

Aside from that, everything else is good! Weight is still creeping up, but I am SO swollen in my feet and ankles, it's ridiculous. Even my calves are starting to look chubby! Ugh. But everything else is good! BP was good, urine good, baby good. And I'm GBS negative again! So yay. Smile

Also, it feels AMAZING to have hit full term today! I feel like it has been this goal of mine this entire pregnancy to get this guy to term, and not have another preemie like I did with DS. Yes, I'm in pain and uncomfortable and as big as a house, but I am so thankful I am still pregnant and he is still baking away! Biggrin

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Sounds like a pretty perfect appointment!

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Sounds like a great appointment! Yay for baby baking! LOL Biggrin

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Sounds like a great appt! Glad you didn't have to face a check, and that you've hit such a happy milestone. Smile Yay!

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Yes, I'm super excited!

Also, like I said, he told me baby is sitting right on my pubic bone, and not engaged yet. He did mention that sometimes with a c/s scar tissue in the lower segment of the uterus (the part that needs to stretch during labor for the baby to engage) can sometimes prevent the baby from descending into the pelvis. I guess in that case, they tend to push a repeat c/s because, as my OB put it, that's grounds for a possible rupture. If the uterus won't stretch to engage the baby, forcing it can lead to a rupture. It makes sense to me, but I need to read up on it.

Anyone else ever heard of that? Like I said, it makes sense. If it's not going to stretch due to scar tissue, forcing it is no good. I have my first ever chiropractor visit on Monday morning (Spinning Babies recommends pelvic adjustment to help the baby engage), so I'm hoping he's just not ready yet and it doesn't have anything to do with scar tissue.

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Good appt. & yay for baking baking baby still!

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Well, I don't know anything about the scar tissue, etc, but, I'm 2 weeks ahead of you and my baby is not engaged yet! I was reading somewhere that often with subsequent pregnancies, baby doesn't engage until the onset of labor. So... maybe it;s just that???

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Well, I don't know anything about the scar tissue, etc, but, I'm 2 weeks ahead of you and my baby is not engaged yet! I was reading somewhere that often with subsequent pregnancies, baby doesn't engage until the onset of labor. So... maybe it;s just that???

I've read that, too! I meant to ask him that, but I forgot. With having DS early, I'm not sure how my body is going to act, since he wasn't engaged really (that I know of) when I went into labor. They're kind of treating me like a FTM in that respect, since we don't have a "normal" history to follow. If nothing else, I'm hoping the chiropractor can ease some of my pelvic pain! I just need him to get off my freakin' intestines! It hurts so bad sometimes! I feel like there is a bubble of gas trapped there and everytime he moves or I get a contraction, it kills!

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Sounds like you had a wonderful appointment! Great news all around and yay for hitting full term!!

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I'm not sure I buy the scar tissue thing as your doctor explained it. I've always heard that the baby's head is what stretches the lower part of the uterus. That's why it's important to have baby in good position, to put good pressure down there. If the chiropractor doesn't help, try doing a Rebozo Shifting, it helps pull baby up & gives him a chance to settle back down in a better position.

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My kiddo has been sitting on top of my pubic bone and cervix for what feels like FOREVER! I have found that kneeling on the floor draped over a yoga ball and rocking it back and forth a bit helps a ton (temporarily). For a few hours after I do that, I get some relief...I guess maybe it gives him room to back off a bit? Also lying with your legs up the wall is supposed to help get a baby to back up a bit. I don't think it will stop baby from engaging when it's time or anything, and he will just move back, but it is nice to get a bit of a break from all the pressure and those stabbing cervix pains. It's also the same stuff you'd do to try and get the baby into a good position for birth, so it can only help!

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Also you might try a belly support band, which might offer enough support to keep baby from putting *all* his weight right on the pubic bone.

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Thanks for the suggestions! I am really hoping the chiropractor can work some magic on Monday! I don't feel as much in pain today as I did yesterday, but it seems to be worse in the evenings, anyhow. Maybe it's gravity, or something. Wink

Spacers, I saw the rebozo thing on Spinning Babies last night! I plan on trying that out in conjunction with the adjustment next week. I may even try to throw an inversion in every day. I did them a bit when I was around the 30 week mark and he was transverse, but he's been head down now since about 32 so I haven't done anything since. Also, I wear something like a "belly sock" every day. It's the Cantaloop brand one. It's pretty soft and about the least amount of support you can wear, but it did seem to make a big difference in my BH's earlier on. Would I need something stronger than that? I hate to shell out $$ for something only to wear it for a brief period of time.

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You'll want something like this: http://www.motherhood.com/Product.asp?Product_Id=973050113&MasterCategory_Id=MC32 or this: http://www.motherhood.com/Product.asp?Product_Id=922000113&MasterCategory_Id=MC32&green=f9ff7508-b4a4-4e44-95f9-df03e5c6434f that help lift the weight of the belly but transfer it to your hips instead of your back.

Check Craigslist and children's consignment stores. Send a "wanted" email to your church & preschool listservs, and any other place that has a lot of moms, see if someone has one you can buy cheap or borrow.

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I'm sure the chiro will help a lot, it's a blessing with how much our bodies change during pregnancy. Too bad you couldn't get in before the weekend.

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My friend has a belt she is going to give me tomorrow! So yay for that. Smile

Also, I was rereading about the rebozo, and I think I'm going to opt out of that. On Spinning Babies, she cautions against using it with an anterior placenta, which I have. So, I think I'll skip that. I'm going to do daily inversions, the belt, and the chiropractor on Monday.

By the way, none of this is going to force him into a "bad" position, is it? He's LOA, so in a relatively good spot! I just want him to flex his chin, I guess?

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"Spacers" wrote:

I'm not sure I buy the scar tissue thing as your doctor explained it. I've always heard that the baby's head is what stretches the lower part of the uterus. That's why it's important to have baby in good position, to put good pressure down there. If the chiropractor doesn't help, try doing a Rebozo Shifting, it helps pull baby up & gives him a chance to settle back down in a better position.

I agree with this too. I've never heard of c/s scar tissue preventing descent of the head. I would guess baby just hasn't engaged yet, which is totally normal... I don't think my babies engaged until labor and then I realize how different my belly suddenly looks Smile

I highly recommend spending lots of time on hands and knees. It really is great for getting (and keeping) baby in a good position, in my experience.

Good luck with the chiro!!

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"JDBabyHopes" wrote:

By the way, none of this is going to force him into a "bad" position, is it? He's LOA, so in a relatively good spot! I just want him to flex his chin, I guess?

I think that was exactly my problem (why I had such a long labor)...DD was LOA but not engaged. I honestly don't think she engaged until I was well into labor. She did come out eventually, though!

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The theory of head not being engaged in the pelvis makes SENSE to me, but like I said, I hadn't done any research on that. It's probably another excuse to push a repeat on us VBAC moms, if nothing else. Wink

I've been super tired today! Poor DS, I felt so bad. I was on the couch for a while this morning because I felt like I had zero energy. I perked up after an hour or so, and we were able to get a lot of stuff done around the house (laundry, some stuff for the baby, etc.). We couldn't get outside, though, because the weather was all gross all day. Now we're under flash flooding/severe t-storm/tornado watch until something like 2am. Yay.

On a cheery note, I feel really good today pain-wise! I had a few contractions this afternoon that hurt like it has been for the last week, but now nothing! If I get a contraction, it's just the normal painless BH's I've been having forever, and I don't have the constant ache down there, either. Even my groin feels fairly good. I don't think he's moved at all, though, so... very bizarre!

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Interesting! Whatever it is, glad you're feeling better! Maybe just a subtle change (like a little head angling) was all it took...

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Good to hear you're feeling better!

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Yes! Still not feeling too shabby!

Also, I can feel him rolling into a different position! Ugh! I hope it's not for the worse! I typically have his butt right under my left ribs and his feet kicking out my right side, but the last few days, his feet have been popping up under my left ribs where his butt usually is! It would figure! He's been LOA for weeks and weeks, and now he's shifting. I hope it's not into some crazy position that prevents a natural birth! I have an anterior placenta (top of uterus and down over the right side), so it does make finding him over there somewhat hard. Also, I had a few BH's yesterday that I could "feel" in my crotch. That's something new, too. He had hiccups yesterday that were right down low in the center vs. off along my left hip like they normally are, plus I've been feeling hands (I think) way down low right above my vagina, almost.

Hm! I wonder how he has himself in there?! I'm going to try some belly-mapping soon.

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Just got back from the chiropractor a bit ago. I FEEL AMAZING!!

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Wahoo!

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So glad to hear you're feeling better!!! YAY!!!! Smile

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I seriously believe that chiropractic services should be part of the routine prenatal care along with labs & ultrasounds & all that. We'd have a healthier, happier mom giving birth. Imagine how low the c-section rate could be if nearly every mom's baby was in primo position before labor began, or how much less miserable moms would be at the end? Blum 3

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Yay for chiro care! I'm glad you feel good. I go myself in a few days....and always feel better post-adjustment.

Funny how they can still move themselves in there, eh? My LO has been LOA for weeks, too, but there are days when I'll feel him shift center or almost ROA, but they he manages to get himself back to LOA. It is still wild to me how his feet stick out on the right side. So weird!!!

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So glad the chiro helped you, woot for being pain free! What did your belly mapping show?

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How are you feeling? What did you discover with the belly mapping?

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I discovered nothing with the belly mapping! Lol I couldn't figure it out! I think it's because my placenta is right in front here, so I can't figure it out! So I asked my OB today since I had my 38 week appointment. Wink He is ROA, so he's on the opposite side of what he was on for so long (kind of like yours, Audra!).

My appointment went well! BP was 108/68, urine was good, baby's HR in the 140's, weight still creeping up because of all this water weight (ugh!). I had my first check today, too. I declined last week, but curiosity won out this time. I am 1cm and 60% effaced at this point. But, who knows what that means, right?! At least we're headed in the right direction! She said my cervix was coming anterior and she could feel his head, which is AWESOME! One chiro appointment and he's off my pubic bone and into my pelvis (I assume, at least, since she can feel his head during a check?!). I don't think he's engaged, which I'm not too worried about, I'm just happy to hear it sounds like he's dropped into the brim!

I had another chiro appointment this morning after my OB appointment. I feel so good. The best I've felt in weeks! She really is amazing. And she's awesome, too! She had her son a year ago. She attempted a homebirth, but he just didn't want to come out, so she got transferred to the hospital I'm delivering at. She said her experience was great there, and that of course, he came out 15minutes after getting there! Anyhow, she's really nice and it's been great talking to her about natural childbirth and tips and the like. She even gave me the number of a great LC in the area.

So yeah, good appointments today! I spotted after my check, and had some cramps and contractions for a while. Blah! Those checks are so uncomfortable! I never got that far with my DS, so now I know how terrible they are! I had a few while I was in labor with him, but I was in labor so I don't remember it being *that* bad. I don't know if I want to do it again! Wink

What do you think, ladies? Will I make it to my 39 week appointment next week? I asked my OB, but she wouldn't guess. Wink

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Great appt!

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