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Welcome to your lodge! Looking forward to getting to know you better and follow the rest of your journey!

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welcome to your lodge Smile looking forward to following your story!

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welcome to your lodge! i look forward to following these last weeks of your journey Smile

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Thank you so much ladies! This is so exciting... I can't believe I'm 36 weeks along already! This pregnancy has flown by, much faster than all of my others. This will be kind of a long intro story, as I'm kind of long winded lol!

My name is Krystal, I'm 29 years old, and I live in Las Vegas, NV. I'm married to a totally sexy man named Donovan (he's 35), and this is the second marriage for the both of us. He has two awesome kids from his first marriage, Logan who is nine and Ian who is six. I have three beautiful babies of my own, Reagan (from my first marriage) who's nine, Maximus, who is six, and Liberty, who will be three next month. Yes, you read that correctly, that there are two six year olds... both of which belong to DH.

I'll try to make this part short, as I'm not particularly proud of how we got together. I met DH at work, he was my boss, when he hired me in October of 2001. We worked in a retail store at the mall, I was 19 and had been married for about 6 months, he was 25 and had been married for over 2 years. I had no kids, and his wife was three months pregnant. In January of the next year, I became pregnant with my first, so our first sons were born in June and October of 2002. For the next couple of years we became good friends, along with the rest of our little "clique" there at our store. Our little group always went to movies (we worked at a movie store!), dinners, would get together at each others houses and hang out... they were good times. During this time the two of us began to have an attraction for each other. Sadly, instead of doing things the right way, we began an affair that lasted nine months, with me getting pregnant in July of '04 and his wife getting pregnant just six weeks later. The affair came to the light in January of '05. In March of that year I gave birth to our son Maximus, and she gave birth to their son Ian. It was a very long and difficult spring, but by the summer the both of us were divorced and were officially together. Like I said, I'm ashamed of my actions and the way that we came together, but I wouldn't trade him for the world. My husband is my best friend, and I am so in love with him, and our blended family.

So back to the happy part (sorry if I've been a downer so far, I just sometimes need to pour my soul out)... babies! All three of my children have been born in hospitals, as will my fourth. I went unmedicated with Reagan, my first, as I felt it was the right thing to do. My mom went natural with me, and I was 10 lbs! I figured if she can do it anyone can! I went to the hospital on the evening of October 1, 2002, around 9PM, because I couldn't get my kick counts. They hooked me up to the monitors (I had been dialated two centimeters for about two weeks prior) and saw that I was having some contractions, but I wasn't feeling them, so they had me walk around for an hour. Well, after the longest hour of walking (and the roughest) I started having horrible pains in my back, and I had dialated another CM, so they admitted me. Well, after almost 12 hours of horrible back labor, an epesiotomy, and two internal tears, my beautiful son was born at 9:38AM, weighing 7 lbs 8 oz. I stuck with my natural birth plan, but the pain was so excrutiating I remember thinking that I would never do it that way again.

With Maximus, I went in for my 39 week appt with the OB, and I was dialated 5 CM with no contractions whatsoever... so they sent me right over to be induced. I had so much drama going on at that time that I never even thought of how stupid it was to be given pit when I was already dialated half way, but they gave it to me anyway and I never said anything about it. So between the pit contractions and my memory of the excrutiating pain I had with my first son, I immediately asked for the epi. It worked wonders, and just five hours later my son arrived at 4:38PM, weighing 8 lbs 7 oz.

With my princess Liberty, by the last month of my pregnancy I was in extreme pain. The pressure in my pelvic area was so intense I could barely walk around for more than a few mintues before I was doubled over in pain feeling like she was going to fall out. I was still working, and that had become quite difficult as well, as I worked in a casino and the walk from the parking garage to my station was painful and exhausting. So because of this, I all but begged my OB to induce me at 39 weeks, which she did. L&D with DD was short and sweet, they broke my water around noon (I was 2 CM upon arrival) and after just two pushes she was born at 3:38PM, weighing 7lbs 3oz.

This pregnancy was completey unexpected (honestly, only my first pregnancy was planned!), as neither one of us wanted any more children. DH didn't want anymore after our six year old was born (for obvious reasons), but of course fell instantly in love with our only girl when she arrived. We were both pretty upset, but as time went on, we realized how blessed we are to have all of these amazing kids. We found out he was a boy at just 13 weeks along, and now here I am at 36 weeks and I can't wait to meet my little prince!

After much back and forth on my part, I decided that I wanted to try and have him naturally as I did with my first... all the while praying that I don't have the horrible back labor that I did with my first baby. Also with no inductions, as the pit makes the contractions so much worse. I've posted before on here about DH just is not on board with my decision, and it's been tough. I know he means well, and he just doesn't want to see me in any type of pain... but if he's not on board I don't know how I'm going to stick with my plan, as my partner needs to be on my side 100% for things to work. Also, my OB isn't much help, as she's already informed me that I HAVE to have an IV, even if I choose to go natural, and they make you have the pit after baby comes to speed up the delivery of the placenta... which is something else that I just don't understand. I hate feeling like I can't be 00% in control of my birthing experience, and at this point wish I could afford a midwife, or at least a doula. So for now I'm sticking to my guns, even if I have to compromise a little bit, by going ahead with an all natural L&D, and hoping for the best.

The pregnancy has been pretty easy, with no morning sickness whatsoever (thankfully I've never had morning sickness with any of my pregnancies), no swelling, no GD, and baby is completely healthy. The only complaint I've had the entire time is my horrible back pain, that continues to get worse as the weeks go by. I've consistantly measured 1-2 weeks ahead since my 20 week U/S... originally due 12/3, and that U/S showed an EDD of 11/29, so my dates have kind of been all over the place. Then at my 34 week appt two weeks ago, my OB said that I was now measuring 2 weeks ahead, and she wanted to do an U/S to check his size. I went the next day and his head was measuring 9CM around, and he was weighing in at 6 lbs 8 oz (and she did these measurements three different times, all with the same result), which pushed my EDD up to Nov. 22. Since posting about this, most all of the girls here have told me not to trust these measurements... but I just don't know. I know my body and my babies and he is by far the largest IMO... just from what I feel from carrying him. Plus, the thought of him being too big to push out and needing an emergency c-section scares me to death. I'm really wondering if my doc will recommend an induction if they feel he's getting too big? Anyway, thanks so much for reading if you made it through this far! I look forward to spending time with you girls over these next few weeks until delivery, and right after! And please, if you have any advice on anything I've talked about here, feel free to share (especially about the measuring ahead and baby being so big)!!! I'll update tomorrow on my appt!

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Welcome to your lodge, birth buddy!!! Smile

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hope your back if feeling a little better lately. are you sitting on a birth ball for any relief? as far as induction, if you are comfortable with it and your body is ready at 39wks it's not a bad thing but there are lots of ways to induce other than pit. research other methods and request they be used first and pit as a last resort. i've been through a pit induction and it's not fun! we're all here to support you in this process :). have you sat down with dh and talked to him about your feelings and asked him to be supportive of you during this labor process, maybe he just doesn't get why it matters to you. Also, maybe you can find a good masseuse to get some good massages before baby comes Smile

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Hi! I've mostly been lurking on this board since my lodge ended last year, but I just read your story and I did want to chime in. First of all, congratulations! Second, have you tried seeing a chiropractor at all? Two reasons--one, the back pain, obviously. Two, a chiro who is experienced with pregnancy can do great things in helping keep your pelvis nice and loose and aligned so that L&D is much easier--the statistics say it all. Just from personal experience, I started getting terrible back pain around 30 weeks, and finally went to a chiro around 35 or so, when I could barely walk anymore. Within three sessions, I had ZERO back pain, and then I just went in for maintenance adjustments to keep everything in line once a week until my DD was born. Even if you don't have insurance, it's not *that* expensive--like $15 or $20/session around here which yes, adds up, but when you're in late pregnancy you know the end is near anyway so you're talking maybe $100-$150? For me it was very much worth it.

As for the rest of it, I don't have much to offer except big hugs. I know that being in a supportive birth center with a 100% supportive DH was the ONLY way I made it through my NCB. Although at #4, and with your daughter coming so quickly, at least your labor should be pretty fast! Still, is there anybody you know, a friend or relative, maybe, who IS supportive and could act as a doula for you?

I also agree with Kristen regarding the alternative induction methods. My labor lasted so long they were talking pit even at the birth center, but offered to try some herbal remedies first (black and blue cohosh). I went from 5-6 cm (where I had been for 20+ hours) to complete in an hour and a half! Definitely worth looking into...

Good luck!

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Thanks for the advice girls. I have thought about seeing a chiropractor, but after my appt today I don't know if there's time. I just came from my appt... and am still adjusting to the news! If you all can remember, two weeks ago at my 34 week appt I was measuring 36 weeks, and the ultrasound estimated his weight was 6lbs 8oz already. So now Im 36 weeks and he's measuring 41 weeks! She's sending me to a peri to get another ultrasound sometime this week to check on his size again. Here's the shocker for me... Im already dilated 3 cm... my head is still spinning! Basically I could have him any day. I know with my son Max, when I went in for my 39 week appt and was dilated 5 cm they sent me straight over to the hospital. My next appt is on Monday so we'll see if I make it that long! As far as induction, Im not too worried about it now, as it might look as though he may just come on his own... but i will do the research just in case!

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with my second i was dialated to a three for just over a week. glad you have an answer for all the pressure!!! if you can squeek it in seeing a chiro might be the best thing just to get your body/pelvis in line and get your some relief before labor. I would guess that you don't have too much longer though how exciting! what were your other babies birth weights? hoping when labor kicks in it's short and sweet!

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Ironically enough, I think I've finally figured out that it's my bed causing my back pain! The crappy thing is that it's a Tempur Pedic... but I love it when I'm not pregnant! I think it's just too hard of a bed. But the past few nights I've stacked three pillows (one of them being my long body pillow) like stairs up against the headboard and laid on them that way... so I'm sort of sitting up... and it's worked wonders!! I've woken up with no back pain at all!

My other babies' weights were in order 7 lbs, 8 oz... 8 lbs, 7 oz... and 7 lbs, 3 oz. So all pretty average, with my middle child being the biggest. I swear though... this baby feels like he could easily be a 9 pounder!! I can't wait until my U/S on Monday, then my regular appt right after to finally find out how big he is. I'm also curious to see if I've dilated anymore. I know when I was dilated to 5 with my middle baby, they made me go straight over to the hospital to be induced... so we'll see!!

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isn't it amazing how a good night's sleep can make you feel so great?! about 4-6 weeks ago, my hips were killing me. a chiro helped significantly but between appointments, if i was able to sleep somewhat on my back i felt so much better, too, even if i was mostly sitting up all night.

my mw thinks our little guy is going to be big, as well. having a 9+ lb-er makes me a little nervous for some reason. how do you feel about having a "big" baby?

hopefully, you'll be meeting little trystan soon!

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Katherine, having a big baby totally freaks me out! I worry about tearing (I haven't torn or needed an epesiotomy with my last two babies, and it was wonderful!), about him getting stuck and needing an emergency c-section... everything. My biggest was 8 lbs 7 oz and I didn't have a problem with him. I really don't want to be induced due to a big baby, but I'm already dilated to 3CM and I'm hoping that if he is big and they want to induce, that they can just break my water and I won't have to have pit. I'll know more on Monday after my appt...

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i would guess if you are already 3cm an induction would go really well (but def. see if they would use pit as a last resort). 9lbers are just more squishy right :). i tore with my second but it was very minor, your doc/mw can help coach your throuh pushing to prevent tearing. also you can use oil to help prepare the skin if you want. hoping you are having a nice quiet weekend and you get some progress news on monday!

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Thanks Kristen! I don't see why they couldn't just break my water at this point as a way of inducing me. With my last two babies I was induced. I arrived at the hospital at 7AM both times, and they hooked me right up to the pit. Absolutely nothing happened (at least not that I could feel), until they broke my water... then the combination of the two made the contractions unbearable, which is why I got an epi with each of them. With my second, I was dilated 5 CM upon arrival, and just 2 CM with DD. Once they broke my waters though, DS was born 5 hours later, and DD just 3 hours later! I'm assuming this baby will come very quickly being my 4th and already dilated. I've definitely been having DH massage down there like he's supposed to. My only concern with the whole "coaching" and "tearing" thing is going natural. I went natural with my first but I remember when he was crowning just screaming and screaming "get him out" and I don't know if I didn't listen and kept pushing to make the pain go away, and I needed an epesiotomy and tore twice internally. With the epi with the other two babies, I felt nothing but the pressure to push, so I was able to listen when the doc told me to stop pushing and relax as they guided the baby out, and didn't tear or anything. I'm so lost on what to do. I really don't want to be bed ridden for hours after, but I would much rather that as opposed to tearing again and being in pain for weeks after...

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for what it's worth, my mw told me you're less likely to tear with subsequent pregnancies than with you first -- and it makes sense: with your first, your body has never stretched that way before. my second came extremely fast (and hard) and i didn't tear at all. so, even without the epi, the odds are in your favor this time Biggrin

as far as a 9+ lb-er goes, i keep telling myself what kristen said. they're just squishier Smile i figure, even if he gets "big" his head isn't going to be that much bigger...he'll just be chubbier. i keep reminding myself that i CAN do it -- and you CAN too!!

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how was your appointment yesterday?

i stumbled across these articles today -- parts of them are encouraging to me, so i thought i'd pass them your way as well. the last paragraph in the second article really caught my attention in regards to "big" babies...

http://www.pregnancybirthandbabies.com/Big_baby.htm

http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/pelvis.asp

hope you're feeling well and rested today!

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haven't seen you around much since you posted about feeling like stuff was going on (yes i stalk you over on your bb too :)). hope you are doing well!

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Katherine, thanks for the articles! I'm still kind of torn about the whole thing, but here's my "copy and paste" from my bb on my appt yesterday!

Kristen... I appreciate you checking up on me too!!

So due to the site being down all day yesterday I wasn't able to post about my appt! I saw the peri who performed the U/S early in the morning. Trystan is still measuring large, weighing in now at 7 lbs 12!! Apparently he has a big belly (just like his mommy lol), so that with his huge cheeks is what's making him fatter than he should be! So then I saw my OB right after that, and she re-read the U/S results to me (like I wasn't laying there when he told me everything)... then she checked me and I'm now dilated 4 CM! But apparently that STILL isn't enough to send me to L&D, so she said if I don't have him on my own by the 26th she'll induce me because she doesn't want baby getting any bigger than 39 weeks. That's a Saturday, but I'm assuming they don't schedule inductions on their days off (lol) so she'll probably move it back a day to Friday the 25th, the day after Thanksgiving. I was a little upset, just because I'm to the point now where just walking from the car into work makes me want to cry because of the pain and pressure of feeling like he's going to fall out... and he still hasn't even dropped yet! But I'm OK with him baking a little while longer. At least this way I can enjoy Thanksgiving, and then have baby the next day (which works out better with my and DH's work schedules anyway lol!). So that's where we are... sorry no baby yet girls!

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I have to agree with the fact that you probably won't tear as much since it's your 4th, even if he is big!

My DD born in 2007 was only 7 lbs 8 oz, but I was ripped to shreds with her. I had over 60 stitches to fix tears in 9 directions, internal and external. Of course I was terrified to hear when my DS was born in 2009 that he weighed 9 lbs 7 oz! :eek: I was so afraid of what happened down there! But I only had a small second degree tear, and it was NOTHING compared to what happened with DD.

I'll be surprised if you make it to your 39 week induction! I know it's possible for you to sit around at 4 cm for a while, but I also know how busy you and DH are in the bedroom Wink Something has GOT to happen!

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Hey Buddy! It's crazy that we're both 4 cm dilated! I'm going in to get my water broken tomorrow. No pit..or other chemical induction. Could you ask your docs about doing this for you?

Either way, I will be awaiting your text!

P.S. Thanks for being an awsome birth buddy!

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Sandra, I know what you mean about the tearing! I'm hoping that with this being my 4th baby that things will go well and I won't have to worry about it! Unfortunately, we haven't been DTD much... it's DH's fault! He's always like, "I'm tired." I'm like are you freaking kidding me??!?! You're tired??? I'M TIRED!!!! Lol... I already sent him a text today that read, "I'm preparing you now that I want sex tonight, I need this baby out NOW." Hopefully he doesn't think I'm just using him lol!

Tamara, hey birth buddy! I'm so excited that tomorrow is the big day for you! I'm not sure what I'm going to do. My problem is my OB office and hospital are across town from where I live. Being that I'm already 4CM, I would be scared that if I went home to labor I might not make it back in time!

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hope you got/get lucky tonight LOL! 4cm is exciting...c'mon baby!

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I was hoping for "some" last night, but I had to take a nap after work to gear myself up for the midnight showing of Breaking Dawn (which was crazy on my part, fighting crowds, traffic, not getting to bed until 3AM and having to be up by 6:30AM for work today!)!! I'll definitely be getting some tonight, as I need to jump start this labor!!

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that's awesome that you're 4cm already!! i hope that means that when it's time, labor will go quickly Smile

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Lol... I already sent him a text today that read, "I'm preparing you now that I want sex tonight, I need this baby out NOW." Hopefully he doesn't think I'm just using him lol!

Oh, at this point my DH knows he's just being used Wink

We sexed it up last night....still no baby.

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Oh, at this point my DH knows he's just being used Wink

We sexed it up last night....still no baby.

I'm so totally jealous Sandra! DH and I got into a big fight this morning because for the past week he's been "too tired" to do anything. I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?!?!?! YOU'RE too tired?! I'M TIRED, BUT NOT TOO TIRED TO GET SOME ACTION!!! I'm so peed off and feeling like he's repulsed by the site of me. I swear there's been no affection for a couple of weeks... I get a little peck goodbye before he goes to work... that's it. He thinks that holding the remote in one hand and rubbing my belly with the other is showing me affection. I ask him to come shower with me every night... too tired. I don't know if I'm just overreacting or what, but I feel starved for some attention and affection. I don't understand how at the beginning of a relationship you can lay together for hours and just talk, hold each other, have tons of amazing sex... and then after a few years I have to freaking beg for it?!?!?! It's so twisted, like I'm the guy and he's the girl! Aren't I the one who's supposed to be put off by constant sex-wanting, and fake the "I'm tired or I have a headache" BS? So like I said, huge blow up this morning because he thinks I'm being ridiculous about the whole thing... so I ended up coming into work two hours early just to get out of the house. I'm so frustrated... in many ways lol...

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Sorry you're feeling frustrated. I actually envy your sex-drive though it's frustrating when the other half is not as reciprocating (probably how my poor DH feels).

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Well, I FINALLY got some action last night! I think he knew that if he didn't put out I was going to kick him out of the house lol! It was fantastic for me, but he didn't finish (sorry if this is TMI). I asked him what was wrong and he said he's just scared that he's hurting me or the baby... men. I appreciate his sensitivity towards the situation, but he knows that I would let him know if I wasn't comfortable... and we all know baby is well cushioned in there!! So then of course I felt like scum because I got what I wanted and he just felt like he was hurting me and/or the baby! Oh well... at least I got some... lol

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ok, soooo inappropriate to say but i'll loan you my hubs for the next few days and you'll get that baby out :LMAO:! seriously though hope it helps let baby know it's time to join the world!

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Glad you finally got some! If I asked my DH to come in the shower with me every night I think he'd pee himself with excitement.

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"ourfirstblessing" wrote:

ok, soooo inappropriate to say but i'll loan you my hubs for the next few days and you'll get that baby out :LMAO:! seriously though hope it helps let baby know it's time to join the world!

Lol! I'm down for whatever gets this baby out!! And remember, it's not considered cheating if the person lives in a different area code lol!!!

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Glad you finally got some! If I asked my DH to come in the shower with me every night I think he'd pee himself with excitement.

:ROFL::ROFL::laughing4: I swear I laughed so loud at this that guests are staring at me (I'm at work)! That's what drives me crazy about my DH! I tell him constantly how lucky he is to have a wife that's really a teenage boy on the inside because I want so much sex! I swear this man gets more BJs than any other married man out there, and I always want to be naked with him under running water too! He just doesn't get it!? He's such a girl lol!

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WAHOOOO, ELV's can't wait to hear all about it (and i am so jealous that you've dialated to a 6 w/o being 'in labor) hope everthing goes smoothly and quick!!!

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Trystan is here! Weighing in at 9 lbs 1 oz, and 19" long! Way to bake a big healthy boy Krystal!

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Way to go, Krystal! Looking forward to seeing pictures of your "big" little guy and hearing your story Biggrin

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Hey girls! Forgive me for being absent these past few days! I normally am on via my work computer... my home computer is shot and I've been dreading typing all of this out on my phone but I have no other choice! So as you know I had my Dr appt Tuesday morning. I went in praying that I would be dilated more so that she would just send me straight over to the hospital. I was in so much pain, just walking from my car to her office was excruciating. So she checks my cervix and Im 6 cm dilated! She asks me to get dressed and meet her outside. By this time my heart is pounding and even DH looks nervous. I get dressed, go out into the hall, and she tells me to go straight over to l&d to be admitted. Thankfully we had dropped D D off at my moms earlier... and the boys were in school! We walked out and I immediately called my mom to let her know that she was going to get a grandson as an anniversary present... yes, the 22nd was also my parents anniversary! She was so excited she started squealing... and let me knowshe could pick up ny boys from school no problem. So down the street to the hospital we went. Thankfully I had also packed my hospital bag and put it in the car before we left the house. We head up to the third floor, and get checked in around noon. They hook me up to all of the fun monitors, and torture me with the iv... trying in my left hand to no avail before switching to my right. I told them I didn't want pit since I was already dilated to 6 and asked if they could just break my water to move things along. They said they would have to check with my ob... and of course a few minutes later they come back and tell me that they have to give me pit. Well, I knew that pretty much sunk any hopes I had of a natural delivery, as I've had two babies with pit and the contractions were unbearable. So I tell them that I'll want an epi and to please give mw whatever fluids I'll need for that so that i can have them asap. So the nurses (who are sweet as can be by the way) get that all going. The contractions start coming on right away, but nothing I can't handle. Finally a resident doctor comes Dr comes in to break my water around 1:30, and that's when the contractions really kick in. Pretty much right away they become unbearable and I let the nurses know. By 2:00 the anesthesiologist arrives and places my epi within five minutes. It takes about thirty minutes to kick in, but when it does sweet relief arrives! I did become extremely sleepy, and pretty much laid there and rested. They checked me right after the epi and I was dilated to 8, so they just left me to get to 10 in peace lol. By 4:30 I was dilated to 10 and they wanted me to do a test push before calling the Dr. I laughed and said that when they wanted me to do that with my last baby, I pushed once and they yelled at me to stop... which is exactly what happened with this baby too! My Dr showed up, suited up, and sat down there waiting for me to have a contractions (as I couldn't feel anything) and when she said ok push, that's exactly what I did! I grabbed the back of my legs, chin to chest, and pushed... and his head was out and she told me to stop pushing. I couldn't believe it, she was functioning his mouth and nose out, and she said, "are you having a girl?" I told her no its a boy and why was she asking (and yes, this conversation was taking place as he was hanging half way out if me lol!) and she said it was because his face was so beautiful that she automatically assumed she was delivering a girl! Even the nurses were commenting on his huge chubby cheeks and how gorgeous he was! So I gave one final half push and at 4:53pm he was out! They put him immediately onto my chest and I got to look onto his beautiful face for the first time... it was incredible. He wasn't crying, just whining a little bit... and he truly was amazing to behold! After a few minutes they took him to be cleaned up and weighed. He was 9 lbs 1 oz, 19 inches long, apgars were 8 and 9. Because he was over the average weight of a baby, they had to check his blood sugar every hour for four hours, but thankfully everything was ok in that department. The placenta was delivered about ten minutes after birth, and that was perfect as well. No tears or anything... which Im so thankful for, as I have had zero pains down there... even from day one. The only issues I've had is the cramping from breastfeeding, but luckily that's contained with motrin. He's an absolutely incredible baby who loves to eat and I can't get enough of! My milk came in on Friday morning, and he's loving life lol! Im so thankful that I've been able to share this journey with you girls and I look forward to reading all of your future birth stories, and watching our babies grow together! If you've made it this far I appreciate it, and I hope you enjoyed Trystan Magnus' birth story!

p.s. thanks Sandra for letting everyone know that I was in labor!!

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What a beautiful story! Can't believe you were walking around at 6 cm!! Sorry about the pit...

Congradulations, birth buddy!! We did it! :woohoo:

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Welcome baby Trystan! How funny that they stopped you mid-way to ask about him being a girl...boys can be beautiful and gorgeous too Biggrin

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Congrats! I'm surprised they wouldn't just break your water and they "had" to start pit. I don't think that's right of them to do, but that's my opinion. Glad you had a good birth though, but sorry you didn't get the natural one you wanted. As long as you are happy with it that's what matters though. Smile The contractions caused from nursing are the worst but nursing is so worth it in the end. Congrats again and enjoy your baby boy!

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just checking on you...hope you're feeling well, trystan is still nursing well and you're managing to get some rest Smile

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Hey girls! Yes, I'm still nursing (no pain issues anymore!)... and so happy about it. I really want to nurse him for at least a year. I only managed to BF for about four months with all of my other babies because I had to go back to work and my milk always dried up. Well, of course I'm back to work again now and am very scared about this happening again. I have a Medela manual pump, but I can't seem to get more than one oz per boob per pumping session. It's enough for now because Trystan is only eating 2oz at a time, but I know the bigger he gets the more milk he'll need per feeding. I'm going to rent an electric pump from my hospital, so hopefully that helps. I've tried the warm compresses and massaging before I pump, but nothing seems to be helping. Any suggestions you ladies might have for me would be GREATLY appreciated!!

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definitely upgrade to the electric pump! hope that helps you. i also had a hard time getting enough milk by pumping on the days i was at work. one thing i tried was looking at a photo of DS and trying to "imagine" him hungrily nursing instead of a machine sucking it out. sounds weird, but it did seem to help somewhat! i also had to really focus on staying well-hydrated on the days i was at work, because i would tend to get busy and not drink much, and i think that affected my supply. good luck!!

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Thanks Amanda! I definitely drink plenty of water while I'm at work... I force myself to lol! My only concern with the electric pump is the time it will take away from me working. I'm on comission only, so any time away from the booth is potential money lost, so it's a win/lose situation. I just keep praying that DH's job will turn around so that I can just stay home with all of my babies and not have to worry about stupid breast pumps!

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glad nursing is going better. just saw the pics of trystan over on your board. he's adorable. i have heard the same thing as amanda, looking at the picture. How often are you getting to pump? maybe you could pump 10 or so minutes after each feeding too, might be able to trick your body into thinking you need more milk, even if you get hardly anything it might help. and hopefully the electric pump helps too gl, pumping is hard your doing awesome !

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I was wondering about what the "normal" amount of milk to get out with a pump was, so I googled it (lol), and a lot of the sites that I found said that getting only 1/2-1oz per pumping session is totally normal, and that my milk supply would increase as the baby needs, so that would mean pumping more milk for when he gets bigger and hungrier. I'm really hoping that this is true. I will take your advice as well and try to pump right after he eats to see if that gets me any more milk!

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I'm not sure if you've posted this on the BF board, but another thing you could do is try fenugreek. Its an herb that generally increases milk supply. You can talk to you LC about dosage, but I'm sure you can also google it. Basically though, you have to take enough to make your sweat and pee smell like maple syrup Smile Funny side-effect!

I took it with both kids and it really helped with DD since she was tongue-tied and I basically pumped for 5 weeks.

Good luck!

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Thanks Katherine! I have actually been reading up on this herb. It just freaks me out a little, between the maple syrup thing (lol) and the fact that I can't imagine MORE milk in there! My boobs are bigger than they've ever been (cup size F!)!! I also read that what I'm pumping is a normal amount for right now? Does the amount that you pump increase as the needs of the baby change?

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From my experience, fenugreek didn't change my cup size -- I'm a 36G (!!) after my milk comes in and that didn't change with the fenugreek. But, I definitely understand the concern!

I'm not a good one to respond about how much is normal to pump because I've always been able to pump a lot. I do think that I was able to pump more as baby got older -- to a certain age and then it gets hard to keep up with them.

Hope things are going well!

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Katherine, how long did you BF your babies? When did you notice that your supply was dwindling? I've never been able to BF past four months because it all dries up due to work and me not being able to pump enough (I think that was the reason).

So I've been taking the fenugreek and pumping on one side while I feed Trystan on the other, and that seems to be helping out a lot. I was able to leave three 3oz bottles for him today when I left for work. I also started looking at a picture of him while I pump at work, and that seems to be helping as well! I was so worried about this, so I'm just hoping that this good luck lasts!

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I BF Judah for 14 months -- until we found out I was pregnant with Sophie and he seemed ready to quit. I BF Sophie for 11 months. She got super interested in food around 10 months and my supply plummeted. I worked FT until Judah was 6 months, and then PT, but officed mostly from home, so I was able to BF him a lot and had a nice place to pump, most days. I don't remember when exactly I had a hard time keeping up with his appetite, but it was when he was older -- definitely after he started solids (aftrer 6 months for us).

I was a horrible pumper with Sophie. Because I'd pumped the first 5 weeks of her life (BF, then pump, then give her a bottle EVERY stinkin' feeding...) I kinda quit when she was a successful BFer Smile So, I don't know how long I would have been able to keep up with her appetite. I will say that she definitely didn't seem to eat as much as Judah. Don't know if that's a gender thing or just their personalities.

If you want to keep pumping/BFing longer this time, you might talk to a LC about how much flexiblility you have for the time of day you pump. For example, when Sophie was four months, we went on a cruise and were away from her for about 10 days. My LC told me I didn't have to pump at her normal eating times, I just needed to pump as many times as she ate during the day. So, since I was staying up late and sleeping in on the cruise, I could arrange my pumping schedule around that. It worked well -- and I loved not getting up at 5am to pump! Smile Maybe as Trystan gets older, you could do something similar and pump right before you go to bed.

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Wonderful info Katherine! Stories like yours give me hope that I can really do this lol! I can't even remember what it's like to have a baby who likes regular food! DD NEVER like any jar foods of any kind, so she basically went from formula to solids with no inbetween. My boys, on the other hand, ate jar food up like there was no tomorrow! I'm sure Trystan will be the same way... you're right, I think how much they eat may be a gender thing! I know that babies eat more per feeding, but I don't remember if they want to eat as often the older they get and especially after they're intoduced to solids? How often did you BF your babies when they were eating other foods?

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