yeah so I got nothin on the SROM thing, then! and yay for negative culture, makes things much easier!
btw, my pg's have also gotten progressively longer! DS1 - 36 wks, DD - 38 wks, DS2 - 39wks and DS3 - 40+4!! so you never know!
~Ayelet & Yoram
NJ, USA to Israel 12/29/08
Welcome baby boy!! 26.7.13
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My check-up is this afternoon at like 3:30 I think. I feel like small progress is happening in the last few days. Just feels likemy body is getting ready but IDK could just be me being optimistic.
I hope it is though and baby comes soon. Not sure what to expect from doc today. He started referring to her needing to come out soon last week. Hasn't said we need to schedule anything but did throw out there to pay attention to kick counts (has never mentioned them before) and if I feel she's not moving enough or get nervous to give him a call and we'll look into "helping her out". I may have to discuss today how I'm not planning to consider that prior to another 2 weeks. Of course, assuming all the monitoring continues to show no issues with baby.
That's crazy...stick to your guns! Did you follow Kristi's lodge a few months back? Her first couple of babies came quite early (AND FAST) and then #3 decided to stick around until 42 weeks. She went into labor and delivered unassisted (except for DH) at home just fine, no interventions required. Hang in there! Each baby has its own schedule. If there's nothing wrong, don't let your doctor look for trouble.
That said, hope your body is moving in the right direction and doesn't keep you in suspense too much longer!
Our OBs must be talking to each other!! Offer to increase the number of NSTs you get if there is any concern. Look into natural induction methods too if the pressure to "help her out" increases.
Molly & Elton 10/2/04
Mary 5/24/06, Celia 6/9/09
Baby #3 due 6/21/13
Haha, Molly...you might be onto something!
So today's appointment...started with the regular weight check, BP and PIAC. Weight up like a lb from last week but no gain the week prior so that's not bad. BP was good. Doc said I had spilled a little protein but noted that alone isn't cause for concern. I think it's b/c I am almost 40 wks pregnant and I'm not good at drinking enough water. I have to do better at that over the next week just to make sure I'm doing everything I can to keep things looking good. Next they put me on the NST for awhile and baby looked good.
So at this point I go in an exam room and get ready for a check. When doc comes in I say I'm interested in having a membrane sweep this time. He then tells me he did one last week. Hmmm...I really didn't know that, there was no pain or anything so he must have been pretty gentle. I've read other ladies say their doc stripped their membranes without telling them they were going to do it. I always thought it sounded pretty awful that happened, seemed wrong they would do it without warning or asking. Funny thing to me was it didn't bother me. Not sure why really...anyway just was odd to me how I didn't really have an emotional reaction about it. So he did a check and sweep. I'm still the same 1.5 cm. I've been having a good bit of crampiness and some light contractions since so we'll see.
We then talked some about my wishes. Of course, my doc would like for me to consider induction but he understands why I don't want to go there if I don't have to. It was a good conversation...I feel like even though we don't completely feel the same about things we both respectfully talked and listened to each other. I get that he's coming from a different perspective of seeing bad things happen and wanting to try to actively manage that. I ultimately do trust him and feel he really cares about my and baby's best interest. I said I'm completely comfortable going to 41 weeks before talking about induction. He just responded that to be honest going to 41 weeks terrifies him. I wish I could remember exactly how he worded it but he phrased it with something like he would be secretly terrified without trying to scare me. LOL I'm sure we'll have to go back and forth with each other over the next week or 2 if this baby doesn't come but I appreciate that he talks to me like an intelligent person and in a respectful way, not pushy or with scare tactics. Just open, honest and even though the perspective and desire is a little different I feel like he will respect my desires.
So I'm scheduled to go back on Monday and have a BPP. Really hoping I won't need that appointment though.
Just wanted to comment some more on Doc doing a membrane strip without telling or asking first. As I noted it oddly didn't bother me however I totally understand how this could be upsetting. I personally fall in the camp of ultimately I think a caregiver should not do so without asking. However, I think why it didn't bother me is b/c of my specific interaction with my OB. I've never felt he has tried to just "run over me" and honestly seemed it is just so routine that he never thought anything of it. Should it be that way...I don't really think so but it is. So just be aware if you are nearing end of pregnancy and having or submitting to a check its very likely caregiver will perform a sweep if the cervix allows. So if you feel strongly against it either don't allow the check or make it explicitly clear prior to the check that you do not want them to strip membranes. I say this b/c I've seen many posts over my time on birth boards where women didn't expect it and it was done. They weren't happy and I felt they were completely justified to be upset or even feel violated almost. I still feel that way...a woman should be told what is being done to her prior to. However, I did have a bit of a different feeling when it happened to me and see that it could be just due to non communication and medical professionals just doing what they are used to without thinking.
I hear what you are saying about your OB. I think the most important thing is that you feel comfortable and not pressured. Because I like to know everything at every appt AND my OB knows this about me it feels like a trust between us is broken when a membrane sweep happens without my permission. If it weren't for this aspect of our relationship I probably would not be as bothered either.
Molly & Elton 10/2/04
Mary 5/24/06, Celia 6/9/09
Baby #3 due 6/21/13
I agree with Molly--I would be horrified, personally, but I understand why you're feeling okay with it (and glad you are, since it already happened anyway!)
Suggestion on the water--I put some mint leaves and sliced cucumber in some water in an old tea infuser pot in the fridge yesterday morning (anything would work, but I like that it contains the chunks) and had the most delicious, extra refreshing water ever yesterday! You can use anything, really, if you don't like those flavors--watermelon and mint is good too!--but even my DH who struggles to drink enough water had a HUGE glass by choice after tasting mine
Leigh, Thanks for the water tip...I need some ideas like that!
I've been thinking more on...well the whole system in general. First I'll update on what's been happening with me. Since my check-up yesterday I've been very crampy and started having contractions last night before bed. Definitely stronger than anything I've had previously but still not difficult to get through. I ended up going to bed still having them and was able to sleep for probably 2 to 3 hrs. When I had to get up to pee I discovered some bloody show. I was pretty uncomfortable so ended up taking a bath to see if the contractions would stop. They contined but felt better in the warm water...still having them when I got out about an hour and a half later. Went back to bed still quite uncomfortable but was able to fall back asleep while contracting. So when my alarm went off at 7:30 guess what, no more contractions! Ugh! I have never experienced this stop and start business before. No fun
Anyway, while I was taking a bath I came across a friend's recent birth story she linked on FB. She had her second a month ago...a repeat c-section. It also had a link to her first son's birth story. We aren't super close friends so I didn't know what happened the first birth. So here's the gist. Her water broke early in the am on a Saturday morning. She was just passed 37 wks and her doc was heading on vaca so she got the on call doc she'd never met before. No contractions were starting and of course you go to the hospital right away I'd you're water breaks so off they went. A young couple and super sweet but the typical naive about the whole birth thing. She did say she'd read 3 books, though I don't know what. So they start pitocin, she labors to about 5 cm before starting to have any real pain and immediately orders her epidural at the start of the pain. At about 5 pm there is still no change from the 5 cm. Doc comes in and says you really should have progressed more in this timeframe and baby doesn't seem to be descending. You probably have too narrow of a pelvis to let baby through and I suggest considering a c-section at this point. So doc leaves and her and hubby discuss. They agree to go along with docs advice and you know the rest. There was no mention in her story of baby showing any signs of distress, etc. Of course, it was written as here were the events and we just had to change our plan b/c sometimes things are out of your control. With no indication she felt it wasn't really needed. Sounded to me like your classic doc didn't want to go any longer without getting this birth wrapped up so when it neared the end of the day he pulled the c-section card. So sad!
So it got me thinking more about things. The problem is an OB/Gyn who is trained to be a surgeon not to help women birth babies is the one attending hospital births. I know, new info there right!?! But to the idea of the caregiver being too comfortable with a risky procedure. This doc likely didn't think twice about the distress he put on this women to make such a big decision in a moment while giving her the ammo she needed to be able to say well it's the only way now. He was so used to and comfortable with the procedure that what's the big deal. Women do it every day and are fine, in his mind. So this brings me back to my interaction with my doc. He's suggesting induction and I just said I'm not interested in introducing drugs unnecessarily into the labor process. I mentioned pitocin specifically just b/c that is one that your most definitely getting at some point in the induction process. I also eluded to that as much as medical knowledge has advavced ther us still a mystery to how/why labor begins spontaneously and I don't want to mess with that mind and body balance if no reason. At some point he actually said pitocin was the same drug our body naturally produces during labor. He went on to discuss that it doesn't have to be the evil drug it can be made out to be and that he takes a gentle approach to its administration, etc. So my point is back to him being too comfortable with interventions b/c they are too commonplace and not last resort when truly needed. So while it didn't bother me that he performed a procedure without my knowledge b/c of my position that it's a pretty minor intervention as far as they go and I didn't feel he was trying to not give me consent it just wasn't even thought twice about. That still isn't ok b/c it's such a slippery slope. Anyway, I'll be ready on Monday or whenever brought up again with the angle that pregnancy, L&D just inherently come with risks. How is it safer to accept the risks that come with induction over the risks of waiting on the momma's body within a reasonable timeframe? You can't actively manage all risk. That's life and maybe he needs to consider that he has become somewhat numb to the risks of the intervention due to it being so common in his work of birthing babies. I don't consider my OB an adversary to contend with but I do think he could use a different perspective.
ETA: Sorry about all the books I'm writing here lately. I'm really wordy these days.