Question about odd BBT chart.

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Question about odd BBT chart.

Hi ladies.

For the record, my BBT has always been erratic since I started charting back in February. I have history of endo, and came off of three years of continuous progresterone in January. The doctor told me the meds cleared my system within a month, but I have yet to ever see a clear thermal shift that is consistent with ovulation. I was really hoping to see one on my first round of Clomid, but between my BBT and OPKs i'm scratching my head. I've had two LH surges, a week apart. In between I had multiple days of no lines, and CM becoming creamy. Then VIOLA, a near positive with darkening lines daily with EWCM all over again. What gives.. and is this normal? Have several signs of early pregnancy ranging from nausea, cravings, fatigue, bloating, frequency in urination and super tender breasts. Can anyone please look at my chart and give me some advice? My doctor has left me in the dark just playing the waiting game. Sad Thanks!

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/36b0a5/

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Now looks pretty good to me for o'ing...id be interested to see an opk..

Stress abd illness can delay o also...on clomid tho id have to go look back at my charts...

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OPK today is darker then yesterday, but still not a full positive. I was just confused with all of the symptoms since I thought they were predominantly post O. Also to note, I've never had tender breasts in my entire life. I figured it was a side-effect of clomid. Definitely having tons of EWCM too. Thanks for the input!

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yup you can def have sore breasts from clomid... and clomid tends to stay in you for more than a cycle.. just usually worse when you just finish... sooooo.. good times

lemme look at my charts to see if I can help you any..
If you look at these you'll see I was taking it days 3-8 and o'ing around cd 16
My Ovulation Chart
My Ovulation Chart

Do you take your opk's once or twice a day? Sometimes if you only do it once a day you can miss your surge. Also do you track cervical position?

So I'd be getting to it tonight! Good luck!

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No, cervical position is the only thing I haven't been tracking. Thank you for the guidance. Smile Definitely helps to have feedback from someone who has been there!

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Its not a problem... if you need anything else feel free to pm me. It took me 6 cycles of clomid to get dd... then my body got over itself and I had normal cycles.

I really found that CP was one of my body's best indicators of what was going on, but not everyone is comfortable checking, and it does take a bit of experience to understand what is open and closed, soft and firm for your body.

Also, clomid tended to dry my cm out some. I drank a lot of green tea that summer and got pg with dd. I'd highly recommend it. Also, if you're experiencing headaches and stuff taking clomid at night can help avoid a lot of the side effects.. like right before bed. also helped me be less moody!

Good luck! like I said, if you need anything PM!

ETA: that temp jump you had today looked good!! we'll see what happens over the next couple!!

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I wouldn't mind learning, considering for the most part my BBT hasn't been a fantastic indicator either. This morning I did get excited with my nice temp jump, and my CM disappeared for the most part and my OPK now has no lines. Crossing my fingers. I'm supposed to do some bloodwork on Friday as it is CD 23. Thank you for all of your help and encouragement! I'll keep you posted!

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Then up date your chart!! I like chart stalking..

If you still see a rising temp I think we found your o and just in time! Hope you and dh got to it.

Checking cp isnt hard, you just have to learn the norm for your body. Its best to start at the beginning of your cycle. FF has a good tutorial. You can see it on my chart too.

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Definitely going to keep up with the charting! Temp rose again today! Totally excited because I thought I o'ed back on CD 14, but didn't have a solid rise. I was depressed because I thought I missed it. I started focusing more on CM so hubby and I have been BDing just in time for that nice drop that now looks like I o'ed! Crossing my fingers I get those crosshairs and followed by a BFP! Even without a BFP, i'm pretty happy that this would be my first real thermal shift since I started charting in Feb and would be a good indicator that Clomid might be the answer to my problems. Thank you for the info on CP and your charts. Smile Going to start researching that so I start charting that with my next cycle.

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It doesn't hurt to start checjing now... The most important thing I can tel you is to be consistant.. Same time, position etc.. There are times that cp can be so high you can't reach... Sio you may have to adjust to get the firmness...

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Looks like all my doubt and questions gave me my answer. Finally got my crosshairs and three consistent rising temps! Now to cross my fingers and toes for my 2ww. I might have missed it without you! Thank you! Smile

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Woohoo for CH!!! I'm so excited for you!! Keep me posted!!

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Flat temps are ok!! I'm still watching!!

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Smile Haha thanks! I figured flat is better then crashing! Come onnnnnn 2ww. Abdomen has been feeling odd the past 2 days. Not like normal cramping at all, and after 8 years of endo I feel like I could write a book about cramping.

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Atleast I have a chart to stalk... I haven't charted in like 2 yrs now.

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Haha well i'm grateful to have someone stalking it! I've hated charting up to this point since it was always a depressing experience not seeing patterns. Even if I don't get my bfp this month, i'm excited at least to see my first thermal shift since I started charting in Feb. Smile Just hate how Clomid imitates symptoms as well.

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Trust me I understand. I did 6 round to get pg with dd. I know the excitement to test abd then getting bns repeatedly....i think I only od on like 3/6 cycles.. It was worth it in the end.

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Flat temp again today, but at least it didn't go down. The pregnancy sign estimator just popped up today too! Having some pretty nasty heart burn and waves of abdominal pain that are different then normal AF cramping.

It is so nice to have someone that understands what it's like. I can't thank you enough. Smile

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Smile

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the creamy cm is a good sign too

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Smile Things are looking pretty good. I'm wondering how to handle my GYN appointment Friday for my CD30. I'll have to do a blood draw for a pregnancy test prior to the appointment, since he was planning to start me on Provera again if I didn't get AF by that point. I wonder if it would still be too early for the test to be accurate.

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I doubt it for a blood draw... Id call and check with them.

Ive had a pos pg pee test at 7dpo. Prob depends on your dr.

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I'll be 9dpo at that point. Maybe I should ask for both? I'm sure he's going to do an u/s too to check for cysts to prep for round 2 if I don't have a +.

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Big temp dip because I can't sleep. Having some light pink/dark brown discharge. It isn't super heavy but enough to wear a liner and get some light spotting on it. Sad Either it's an early AF, or could it be implantation?

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Sad not sure.. I had IB but it was pink...

I also ended up on progesterone because my luteal phase was short.

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Yeah, later one I ran to the bathroom and passed a clot the size of a quarter. Now I have really heavy AF with terrible cramping pain. Sad Early AF, and on to round 2. In better news, at least that means I have enough time to O before I go on vacation without DH. Very disappointing though. Never had anything like this before.

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Yeah BBT doesn't seem to work that well for me either. Doctor told me today this last cycle I never O'ed. Time for Clomid round 2! I'm still going to chart, but going to focus more on CM + OPK.

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Almost time for round 2 for me too!

I started my first round of clomid on July 27th and am pretty sure I didn't O. I took a 21 day test last week and dr will have results on Monday. I only took 50 mg so OB says will start on 100mg this month if no O. Good luck to you and keep us updated!!

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Thanks Kris! Nice to know i'm not alone in this boat. Hope your blood test comes back good, or you can join me on 100mg. What's weird is so far i'm having less side effects on the higher dosage, knock on wood. Crossing my fingers for good results from CD 23 draw in early Sept, otherwise I go to 150mg. Sad If 150mg fails, they will switch me to Femara for one round, then refer me out to a RE. At least my GYN has a solid plan.

Also, my temps have been SO weird this cycle so far. Been maintaining a pretty high temp. Hopefully this doesn't already mean that this cycle is botched.

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I did 150 to get pg with dd. It wasnt so bad.

Ill look at yiur chart in a sec

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Clomid makes your temps high. After youre done with it your temp should steady and yiu should be able to see a temp shift still.

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No O :(

I did my day 21 on Thursday and didn't O. OB is bumping me to 100 mg so we'll have more hope this month. Hopefully we both get a BFP this next go round!!

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Sad I'm sorry Kris. Looks like we'll be in a similar cycle together. I just finished my last dose of Clomid yesterday. Now to play the waiting game and hope I O. It's really sad i'm excited to go to bed since it means i'm that much closer to testing the next morning with OPKs and temping. I hope this is our month, or that we at least O! Yahoo

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My temps are still a little wonky, but i'm already seeing a pretty nice OPK fade in. Maybe my body is actually gearing up to O this round!! Very exciting. Smile Once I have more OPKs, i'll post a progression picture. A progression picture is too boring with only two tests.

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Just Finished 2nd cycle

Well I just finished my second cycle of clomid. The first cycle at 100mg dosage. Hopefully I O this time. I had more side effects than with the 50mg but I guess that's normal. I'm thinking the provera to start AF then the clomid on day 2-6 is making my hormones crazy. While my husband was in the house I couldn't wait for him to leave, then the second he left I wanted him back! Poor thing lol. Had major hot flashes and lots of trouble getting to sleep at night. Hopefully since I took my last dose yesterday tonight will be better. Let us know if you O'd this time!! Good luck to you!