Could all our stink issues be due to...

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Marite13's picture
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Could all our stink issues be due to...

the fact that we use diaper detergent for diapers, but use regular detergent for clothes?
I don't use fabric softeners or anything, BUT, the detergent we use for clothes is whatever off the shelf- I can't even read the labels (they are all in Lao or Thai), so I have no idea what is in them, and they are certainly NOT free and clear- not sure you can even get detergent like that around here.

If so... what should I do? I mean, because, I have I think 1 more bag of Rockin Green left, and then I will be having to order more and having it shipped to us in Laos, which is going to SUCK, because the shipping alone is probably going to cost more than the detergent. So, as you can hopefully understand, using Rockin Green (or whatever cloth-friendly detergent that we have shipped) for our clothes as well, isn't really an option, because we just can't afford to ship that much over here.

I just don't know what to do. But it has gotten so bad, that my DH who has a terrible sense of smell (I mean HORRIBLE, can't smell anything) even said to me last night, "Her pee has gotten REALLY stinky lately!"... He doesn't know what he's talking about, but it's not her pee, it's the diapers. Sad Like I said on that other thread... I am looking forward to three weeks of traveling over the holidays when we will be forced to use sposies. They stink, but not like this!

TiggersMommy's picture
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Aaaah. We use Rockin' Green for everything. Its worth a shot. I've considered going back to using All free & clear for regular laundry but I'm too scared!

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I was planning on using CD friendly detergent for all our laundry just for the convenience factor but I can understand how expensive shipping costs might make you hesitate to go that route.

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The only kind I have heard of that you have to change all your laundry to is Charlie's Soap. Because of the way the detergent works, it takes the film off your washer and redistributes it onto the wash.
I use Rockin' Green and whatever else for my other laundry (Tide, All, Purex, etc.) and have no problems. Is the water you use to wash them REALLY hot? I found my rash issues were about the temperature of the water. I had it on hot but it wasn't hot enough so I turn my water heater up all the way when I wash dipes and haven't had an issue since.

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It could be the fact that you're using other detergents or it could just be that Rockin Green is not cutting for you anymore.

I use a number of different detergents, Tide Free for mine and the boys stuff, and a deep clean stain remover one like sunlight or tide for DHs clothes, and of course diaper detergents for our dipes. I did have some stink issues, it would be okay for a day or two after I stripped them but then it would come back. I had to try a few different detergents but I think I've finally found one that works for us and keeps the stink away.

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I know our water isn't hot enough, but I don't know what to do about it. There is no central water heating system in our house. Each tap that HAS hot water (only showers do, we don't even have hot water in the kitchen- we have the washer hooked up to the shower tap in the downstairs bathroom, which no one showers in), had a small electric heater. We have them all set to as hot as they will go, but, it is not very hot. Like, the temps here have dropped recently, to where I'm comfortable wearing pants instead of shorts, and I was kind of cold in the shower this morning. But, we also had stink issues when we were living in Angola, and we had a "sanitize" setting on our washer there that washed at like 95C (almost boiling). So....who knows. I just don't know.

My bad, but DD sat in poop yesterday for too long (we were out and I just didn't notice it), and she now has the reddest bum she has ever had in her life. I feel so bad. I don't know if it's possible, but I feel like sitting against that ammonia made it worse. Would it irritate her skin? I'll have to google. So, she's back in sposies today. I am really bummed.

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Yup, I just googled and found ammonia rash can be serious- and most often from night time diapers (which is a major problem for us- and of course those are her stinkiest diapers).

Off to bang my head against the wall... Smile

Marite13's picture
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Ok, wait, so if I have hard water (which we do), I should be using MORE detergent? I wish I had known to buy Rocking Green Hard water formula when I was buying...but I didn't know. Should that help?

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I always used clean-rinsing detergent on EVERYTHING because those detergents do strip and redeposit the crap from other detergents if you're washing them in the same machine. If it's too late for you to get the Hard Rock, you can get some Borax and just add it in with every load to help cut the hard water, but if using Rockin' Green for everthing is too expensive, and you can't get anything decent locally, I would definitely consider ordering a cheaper clean-rinsing detergent for your regular laundry.

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I'm not at all attached to the Rockin' Green... I don't mind using any good diaper friendly detergent... but yeah, if we're going to use it for everything, it's going to have to be a cheap one.

I did a long soak today with like 8 pots of boiled water (in the washer)... doing rinses now. We'll see if it makes any difference in my diapers.

Wish I could get Borax here.

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:grouphug:

I was reading about a lady on another board who always washes her CDs with Dawn because she always uses laundry mats. She was having issues with everything else. Not sure what the long term effects are, but it's a thought! I've been thinking about that if I have any issues b/c we'll be without our washer and dryer for the next 3-4 months.

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"Marite13" wrote:

Yup, I just googled and found ammonia rash can be serious- and most often from night time diapers (which is a major problem for us- and of course those are her stinkiest diapers).

Off to bang my head against the wall... Smile

*Hugs* I can totally sympathize with ammonia rashes, they are the worst! DS2 is in cloth full time but DS1 was only in it at night. Recently we had to stop putting him in cloth at night because he was getting awful ammonia rashes because he's almost 3 and his urine is so concentrated now. I'd put him in sposies at night until the rash cleared then once it was gone we'd try again and within 2-3 days the rash would be back. Nothing would help, I'd strip, I'd do a million rinses, it was always the same, but DS2 was totally fine, no stink or rash from his cloth and their dipes are washed together, so eventually we just gave up. DS1 is PLing right now so hopefully it won't be an issue too much longer anyway.

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I've had to bleach the inserts before when we had bad ammonia problems. Now we only have the ammonia smell on overnight dipes. Also, sunning them helped tremendously. We didn't have any stink all summer because of that. I doubt the different detergent is the problem. Oh, and Rockin' Green didn't work that great for us when we had hard water. I like Tiny Bubbles.

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I was never in love with Rockin green, I haven't had any major stink issues and I wash in cold with various detertergents I have been trying. None are specifically cloth nappy ones (because there is nowhere that sells them, even rockin green is hard to get) but all are clean rinising, The one I am using right now had some rave reviews from other Mum's both for price and how well it works. It's actually made for wool and delicates so leaves a nice light eucalyptus scent as well and from those that have been using it longer no buildup.

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I was talking to another mom here the other day- an Aussie, who said that she always washed on cold back in Oz, but here, she's been having the same problems as me! I think the hard water is largely to blame the more I find out about it. But I still don't know what to do about it otherwise. I will have to look for stuff when we are in KL in a few weeks.

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Our stinkies just came back a few weeks after stripping for the first time ever. I did two things. I turned the hot water heater up (prety sure DH turned it back down though) and I added a second extra rinse. No more stinkies. I can't imagine its because I'm using too much Rockin' Green. The package says to use like 3 scoops. I use 2 and my loads are fairly large. Anyway, just thought I'd share that an extra rinse is helping over here and we have wretchedly hard water.

TiggersMommy's picture
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Yet another idea. Have you actually read the back of the Rockin' Green bag? There's instructions on what to do in the event of stink! Who'da thunk? Anyway, it recommends the occasional long soak. Maybe that would help? I'm going to try that instead of all this rinsing I'm doing. I live in the desert for crying out loud!

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We use a different detergent for our clothes and haven't had any issues. I use Classic Rock and surprisingly, it has been enough for our water. I was told that most of Texas has hard water, especially central and Eastern parts but I guess ours isn't that bad here.

Have you tried contacting RnG? I hear that they are very helpful with troubleshooting problems. Maybe they would have some suggestions, especially since you have special circumstances? It might be worth a try.

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Funny... seriously ladies... my fairly normal m.o. is to do 3-6 rinses after washing. Not just an extra... 3-6. Every time.

And yes, I soak, according to the RnG bag fairly often as well.

So far, none of these things seem to help.

DD has been in sposies for two weeks now, and on Saturday we leave for a 3 week vacation, so she will continue to be in sposies during that time. Honestly, these issues along with everything else in my life right now, are making me really appreciate sposies and the fact that I have the choice to use them if I want/need to!