Fewer rashes with sposies, ICK!!!

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Fewer rashes with sposies, ICK!!!

I've mentioned here that we deal with rashes. A lot. We were out of town a while back and we used sposes. Not one rash for 5 days. Well, I thought maaaaybe it was b/c her diet was slightly different. After a horrible rash last week I decided to try sposies at home to see if it was diet related. Only a minor rash one day when she had pooped at least three times. :confused:

I know her skin is very sensitive to urine and poop. I change her often but it's not enough. The rashes can happen quickly and get worse throughout the day many times. We use pockets most of the time but I *think* she has less issues with our cotton AIO's. I thought, since it seems to be a urine issue most of the time that she would need a stay dry fabric.

Nothing adds up! I hate to give up on cloth but I feel horrible about the rashes. She gets so uncomfortable and I know I need to do what will keep her comfortable. I just wish the answer was not sposies!!!!

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That must be so hard. Sad I've heard that before sposies came around only about 3% of kids got diaper rash. Perhaps your DD would have fallen into that 3%. Every baby's bottom is different and unfortunately that might mean sposies for some of them. Do what you gotta do, mama, and don't feel bad about it.

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We have a TON more rashes with sposies so if Grandma puts him in a sposie, I put some California Baby lotion on him and it clears it right up and is cloth diaper safe. What if you just kept a layer of this on her bum while she's in cloth and see if that helps? What are you using for the rashes? Perhaps just keep a thin layer of that on her bum and use a liner? Also, have you tried switching detergents? I know most cloth diaper detergents aren't going to break you out but perhaps it would help. Also, perhaps she is allergic to the cloth diaper fabric? I'm really just trying to think of anything it could be! Also, I read fleece liners help keep urine off baby's skin. Hope this helps but don't beat yourself up, some babies are just sensitive to being wet and you have to do what is best for your baby. Smile

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Well, I don't have much advice for you because I think we're also in that 3%. Adair's just SO sensitive, she gets rashes once every few weeks now that we're in sposies, but before if she had one clear day I was thrilled. And yes, I tried EVERYTHING. Just simply every single thing anyone could think of, and nothing worked. Even hardcore creams, liners, changing really frequently, different fabrics, different detergents, etc, etc, etc.

I love CDing and am so glad that at least I did it for her first year, but I think once we introduced solids and now especially that she's eating anything and everything, her sensitivity issues just exploded. To me, it wasn't worth the constant pain, sitting in her own waste with open, bleeding sores all the time, etc. I also managed to find a super cheap brand that is at least chlorine free, plant based, etc. http://www.comfortsforbaby.com/touch-of-nature Yes, I know they still are disposables and not nearly as good as cloth in any arena, but if we're stuck in sposies at least it's the "better" kind without breaking the bank.

The good part is, she's REALLY into the potty, and is starting to tell me when she needs to poop a lot of the time. I think she's going to be really easy to PT, so we are gently moving in that direction as fast as possible without getting pushy (I want to preserve her interest in it, not make it into a battle!) Getting out of diapers as early as possible would just solve the whole thing.

So, bottom line...hugs. You are not alone!

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I just realized I should add a couple of things I did discover that might be relevant for you too. A lot of her rash issues I was able to trace pretty easily to certain fruits. Tomatoes, strawberries, and papaya are major culprits over here. Now we are avoiding anything on the "diaper rash causing" lists of fruit, just to be on the safe side. That did help a lot, in addition to the diaper switch, and might be one thing you can explore before fully embracing disposables. http://freshbaby.com/healthy_eating/AilmentsAndFoods.cfm

Also, I don't know about your LO, but mine is a SUPER POOPER. She eats like a horse and it all has to go somewhere...she seriously poops 5 or 6 times a day, regularly. If it's less than 3, I actually feel a little concerned. I'm positive that has something to do with it too. No matter how quick we try to be on diaper changes, she's still sitting in it more than the average baby.

Cloth was awesome while she was exclusively BF and even early solids, but once the eating---> pooping really revved up, MAN. It honestly did become a lot harder to deal with. That's not really advice, since there isn't anything you can do about it, but maybe just something to keep in mind. I felt like less of a failure when I realized that we are not all operating on the exact same playing field Wink

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"WonderWomanExtrodinare" wrote:

We have a TON more rashes with sposies so if Grandma puts him in a sposie, I put some California Baby lotion on him and it clears it right up and is cloth diaper safe. What if you just kept a layer of this on her bum while she's in cloth and see if that helps? What are you using for the rashes? Perhaps just keep a thin layer of that on her bum and use a liner? Also, have you tried switching detergents? I know most cloth diaper detergents aren't going to break you out but perhaps it would help. Also, perhaps she is allergic to the cloth diaper fabric? I'm really just trying to think of anything it could be! Also, I read fleece liners help keep urine off baby's skin. Hope this helps but don't beat yourself up, some babies are just sensitive to being wet and you have to do what is best for your baby. Smile

I usually use a sposie and some Desitin. I've tried a a couple of other ointments and none seem to work as well so that's why I've put off buying CD safe cream. Maybe it's time to get some liners but I am concerned about it being wet next to her skin. It's definitely a pee/poop issue and not the diaper (detergent or fabric) since it's more in her creases and not where her skin touches the fabric. I wonder if liners will let her skin stay dry enough? Especially if she has ointment on? As far as fleece liners, her diapers are fleece so I would have hoped that would have done the trick on it's own. Does it make sense to use a fleece liner in a fleece diaper? (I don't meant for that to sound sarcastic!)

"cactuswren" wrote:

Well, I don't have much advice for you because I think we're also in that 3%. Adair's just SO sensitive, she gets rashes once every few weeks now that we're in sposies, but before if she had one clear day I was thrilled. And yes, I tried EVERYTHING. Just simply every single thing anyone could think of, and nothing worked. Even hardcore creams, liners, changing really frequently, different fabrics, different detergents, etc, etc, etc.

I love CDing and am so glad that at least I did it for her first year, but I think once we introduced solids and now especially that she's eating anything and everything, her sensitivity issues just exploded. To me, it wasn't worth the constant pain, sitting in her own waste with open, bleeding sores all the time, etc. I also managed to find a super cheap brand that is at least chlorine free, plant based, etc. http://www.comfortsforbaby.com/touch-of-nature Yes, I know they still are disposables and not nearly as good as cloth in any arena, but if we're stuck in sposies at least it's the "better" kind without breaking the bank.

The good part is, she's REALLY into the potty, and is starting to tell me when she needs to poop a lot of the time. I think she's going to be really easy to PT, so we are gently moving in that direction as fast as possible without getting pushy (I want to preserve her interest in it, not make it into a battle!) Getting out of diapers as early as possible would just solve the whole thing.

So, bottom line...hugs. You are not alone!

Thank you for the link to the diapers. I am going to check them out. We use Pampers but I am definitely open to finding something more natural. And yay on the potty training!!! We have a potty out and she has sat on it a few times. I have been talking a lot more about the potty, poopy diapers, etc. and she seems to be noticing it a little more. Maybe we are on our way to potty training. I don't think it will happen too soon but it's a start.

"cactuswren" wrote:

I just realized I should add a couple of things I did discover that might be relevant for you too. A lot of her rash issues I was able to trace pretty easily to certain fruits. Tomatoes, strawberries, and papaya are major culprits over here. Now we are avoiding anything on the "diaper rash causing" lists of fruit, just to be on the safe side. That did help a lot, in addition to the diaper switch, and might be one thing you can explore before fully embracing disposables. http://freshbaby.com/healthy_eating/AilmentsAndFoods.cfm

Also, I don't know about your LO, but mine is a SUPER POOPER. She eats like a horse and it all has to go somewhere...she seriously poops 5 or 6 times a day, regularly. If it's less than 3, I actually feel a little concerned. I'm positive that has something to do with it too. No matter how quick we try to be on diaper changes, she's still sitting in it more than the average baby.

Cloth was awesome while she was exclusively BF and even early solids, but once the eating---> pooping really revved up, MAN. It honestly did become a lot harder to deal with. That's not really advice, since there isn't anything you can do about it, but maybe just something to keep in mind. I felt like less of a failure when I realized that we are not all operating on the exact same playing field Wink

Yes, fruits are a BIG culprit for her as well. I totally cut out grapes, all citrus and raspberries and then I limit any other fruits. She does get some banana and applesauce every day but that's about it as far as fruit. On the positive, she gets yogurt everday. We also had an allergy test (from a blood draw) done and she wasn't allergic to anything they tested. Of course they only tested the classics, but I really think this is a dermatology issue, not an actual allergy issue.

Jordan also poops a few times a day. Her diaper rash is almost always worse on the days she poops more. I change her within 5 minutes (have to make sure she is done) but it happens so fast!

"alwayssmile" wrote:

Hey, I ran across this thread on the CDing board at Just Mommies.
http://www.justmommies.com/forums/f200-cloth-diapering/2442565-getting-upset-about-just-put-shawn-pampers-because-hes-really-sore.html

Thanks for the link Jackie. I will check it out.

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Alright, after reading that link, maybe I will try a liner and some ointment or coconut oil. Let's hope it helps!!!

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I just saw that while I was lurking over there and it rang a bell with me thinking it might be something similar for your issue. Since coconut oil is supposedly CD safe, it's definitely worth a try! I would try some CJs BUTTer or something similar though before giving up. While it's not a barrier cream, it heals Aiden's rashes so much faster than I ever thought something could. He always gets rashes right in the creases too.

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I don't have any advice but I'm there too. We've pretty much been using 70% sposies/30% cloth since Isaiah's been here and not one rash! But when I try to use cloth 100% they get a rash within a day or two. I had the same issue with DD2. I do think it's the wetness factor for us. We don't have quite as many problems when we use pockets and change very often. I don't know that we'll ever be able to use cloth 100%. A good compromise that was working before I had DS2 was using cloth during the day sposies at night and that minimized rashes. Hopefully we'll get back to that soon.

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I'm going to assume that you've tried different detergents but that's always our biggest source of rashes. You said you feel like there is less rashing with the cotton AIO's? If that's the case, then I'm inclined to think that it may be the synthetic fibers of the fleece that your LO is having problems with. I'm also wondering if perhaps flushable liners would be a good compromise instead of going back to sposies. Ultimately though, you'll know what's best for your little one's skin and if that's sposies then nobody will blame you for making that choice.

If you do look for a CD friendly cream, the diaper salve at Northern Essence has ALWAYS been my favorite.

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If you put a liner in the diaper, you can use desitin... I have done it many times and had no absorbant problems. Smile

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"WonderWomanExtrodinare" wrote:

If you put a liner in the diaper, you can use desitin... I have done it many times and had no absorbant problems. Smile

That didn't work for me...I think the liners shifted around enough to get cream on the diapers anyway, and then in the wash it spread and made them all non-absorbent. Or maybe a couple of rogue liners got in with the wash enough times? Who knows. I'd definitely be very careful if you try that route, though.