I want to give up :(

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Kayla1981's picture
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I want to give up :(

I love cloth diapers. I want to cloth diaper! But I am so frustrated with constant leaks. All of a sudden, we are having leaks all day long. Almost every diaper. It might happen when I'm out and she is in a diaper for 2 to 3 hours. It's happened after her being in a diaper for 30 minutes.

At first I though it was just the Kawaii's but I use those the most so I think I was mistaken. Today it was our FB's OS. I don't use our BG's as much b/c she gets rashes so easy and it seems to happen faster with those... but rashes are a whole other issue.

It seems like Jordan is just peeing a TON and her diapers can't keep up. Even when I use a hemp insert with a doubler. It's leaking through the diaper so it's not a repelling issue. I carry her on my hip and my shirt is wet. Tonight she was on my lap and my shorts were wet. I get her out of her car seat and the seat is wet. The cart cover gets wet... You get the idea.

I've stripped with Dawn and Calgon. Just in case, but it didn't change anything.

She is also getting really bad rashes somewhat regularly. I dont' own any cloth diaper safe cream. I know, I know, I should. I just worried about it causing issues so I have never ordered any. I just put her in a sposie and use Desitin when she gets a rash.

Seriously, what do I do? Do I just need to try do PLing already? I really don't feel like she is ready but I am so incredibly frustrated. I don't want to give up but I just want to throw in the towel and not deal with the constant leaks.

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Oh man, I basically have no advice, but I know how frustrated you are!! This is me with the stink issues... They are never ending for me, and the ammonia in the morning is so strong I can smell it through the blankets and pjs...and then changing her makes my head spin. So I have no advice, but I get your frustration!!!

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You have mostly microfiber right? Maybe you're getting compression leaks? I've read that could happen with them. Especially since toddler pee comes out with force and a lot at a time.
I wonder if I can find anything else. . . .

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And buy yourself some CD cream. Blum 3 lol

mommys's picture
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Are you sun drying or dryer? If you haven't use dthe dryer in a while, you might try that to ractivate the water proof layer.

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Man, do I feel you...we are STILL in sposies, even though I bought cloth safe ointment, because I haven't had time to deal with the laundry issue (too easy to put on the back burner once it's not do-it-or-have-pee-on-the-floor....) But I still want to be a cloth diaper family! I guess I'm also just feeling like it's going to be one more letdown, since I went through so many, and procrastinating is keeping the hope alive. SIGH.

PS The Earth Mama Angel Baby ointment is really great, I must say.

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"mommys" wrote:

Are you sun drying or dryer? If you haven't use dthe dryer in a while, you might try that to ractivate the water proof layer.

I'm keen to agree with this. Degradation or "inactivation" of the waterproof layer over time could lead to compression leaks for sure. Check you inserts if they are absorbing (dribble some drops onto it and look if the drop is absorbed right away). If they are, I'd suspect its the water proof layer. Line-drying supposedly requires occasional "re-activation" of the PUL. I'm not 100% sure I agree with this as I always line dry my covers and haven't ever run into this problem but its a really easy fix if that's the case. On the other hand, always drying them in the dryer can lead to degradation over time. You might find that your newer diapers do better if this is the case. It's important to check the drying instructions for each diaper type. The recommendations for drying vary much more greatly than the recommendations for washing.

For diaper cream, you can absolutely trust Angel Baby Bottom Balm. Its all I've ever used, it works magic on mild diaper rash, and it washes completely clean.

Kayla1981's picture
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I thought they were just just compression leaks but since I've had leaks with hemp, I'm not sure that is the only issue. I do think compression leaks are part of the problem though.

I did try drying them on medium or regular a while back. But as I was drying them I read on the Planet Wise site that the whole drying PUL thing is a myth. :/ I cannot remember what Kawaii's drying instructions are but they have TPU which I know is a little different than the typical PUL. I have been in contact with Kawaii but they refuse to call me and they take days to respond to my emails so it's been an arduous process just trying to trouble shoot with them. It's ANNOYING me.

I checked the inserts and they are absorbing very well.

I just want to :banghead: and :bawl:

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I went through something similar for a while with DD1 and did find some solutions for out and about. First, of course you should strip the dipes and dry with heat to reseal. It sounds like you already did that. Make sure you aren't using any onesies or constrictive clothing. My DD had a particular time of day that she peed like a fire hose so I did double hemp and a regular mf insert for that time of day if we were going to be out and about. Put the mf closer to her body and the hemp further away since hemp absorbs volume but mf absorbs quickly. Finally, the most helpful thing was to put my DD in fleece pants when we went out. It seriously decreased her wardrobe, but it helped tremendously. She eventually didn't fire hose as much and I was then able to put her in regular pants again (right in time for summer). Also, I did GMs and a cover or wool pants sometimes and they were awesome and we had no leaking issues, just not as affordable for me at the time since I had a whole stash of pockets.

Good luck! I have friends who have the same troubles with disposables with heavy wetters so it isn't entirely a cloth problem.

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I agree with Andrea. I don't think it's entirely a cloth problem. I think it sounds like she's holding her urine longer, and when she does go, she goes so much that the diaper can't keep up.

We were at an anniversary party earlier this year and I literally changed Miles' (disposable) diaper 2 minutes before we left for the party. We walked to the party, sat down to eat, and he peed. So much so fast my shorts were soaked because he was sitting on my lap. I had to go home to change. That all happened within 10 minutes time.

When were you thinking of starting to potty train? I know girls are typically easier to train than boys, maybe it's time to think about that soon?

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Wool or fleece over the leaky dipes. Ellie is doing the same--Kawaiis, BG, FB's--all her pockets. We sent interlock pants to the babysitter & she's starting potty training with her.

Good luck! don't give up. We do use fitteds and wool or fleece at home, so we don't have this problem, but she still gets wet fast.

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Totally making a mental note about this! I know I've heard of toddler pee going faster than the cloth can absorb, but good to know that this is a disposable diaper issue too!

Another note to self: Put clothes back in the car for ME! lol.

I do hope this doesn't last long for you or that you're able to find a solution. I wonder if there are any creative solutions on diaperswappers.

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I agree, good to know that its a problem with sposies too! We use prefolds 90% of the time and I've NEVER had a pee leak that wasn't related to daycare personnel error. I did just buy a bunch of pockets though so I'll be on the lookout.

My DD holds most of her pee overnight and lets it rip a few minutes after she gets up. I'm able to catch it on the potty most days. At her age, its still EC and not potty training, IMO. If your DD goes at some regular time perhaps you can start popping her on the potty to start the PT process.

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Glad it's a sposie issue, too. Sometimes, I read or hear stories like this and I feel like I'm walking on egg shells for when a problem is gonna arise for me with cloth diapering b/c so far, everything is going great!!! Glad to know I have you ladies here for help and advice if I do run into a road-block. Smile
I hope you figure it out girl! I know that sounds very frustrating!

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I wanted to respond to so many of you so forgive the long post...

"annierose" wrote:

I went through something similar for a while with DD1 and did find some solutions for out and about. First, of course you should strip the dipes and dry with heat to reseal. It sounds like you already did that. Make sure you aren't using any onesies or constrictive clothing. My DD had a particular time of day that she peed like a fire hose so I did double hemp and a regular mf insert for that time of day if we were going to be out and about. Put the mf closer to her body and the hemp further away since hemp absorbs volume but mf absorbs quickly. Finally, the most helpful thing was to put my DD in fleece pants when we went out. It seriously decreased her wardrobe, but it helped tremendously. She eventually didn't fire hose as much and I was then able to put her in regular pants again (right in time for summer). Also, I did GMs and a cover or wool pants sometimes and they were awesome and we had no leaking issues, just not as affordable for me at the time since I had a whole stash of pockets.

Good luck! I have friends who have the same troubles with disposables with heavy wetters so it isn't entirely a cloth problem.

Good point on the restrictive clothing. We don't do onesies anymore but she leaked onto some overall/jumpers that were probably a little tight. But they are so cute. :confused:

DOUBLE HEMP AND MF?? Wow. How did you snap the diaper? And how did you find any clothes to fit over it?! I've done double MF and the diaper looked a little wonky with all the stuffing.

I keep forgetting about fleece. I haven't seen any at Kohl's and I don't think Old Navy had any either. I wonder who carries some.

"AshnBill" wrote:

I agree with Andrea. I don't think it's entirely a cloth problem. I think it sounds like she's holding her urine longer, and when she does go, she goes so much that the diaper can't keep up.

We were at an anniversary party earlier this year and I literally changed Miles' (disposable) diaper 2 minutes before we left for the party. We walked to the party, sat down to eat, and he peed. So much so fast my shorts were soaked because he was sitting on my lap. I had to go home to change. That all happened within 10 minutes time.

When were you thinking of starting to potty train? I know girls are typically easier to train than boys, maybe it's time to think about that soon?

It really is a relief to know it's not just a cloth problem. And I really haven't felt like Jordan was showing signs of being ready to potty train yet but maybe I'm wrong. She did ask to sit on the toilet one day, so I let her. I think it was just curiosity since she sees me go but she doesn't even tell me when she is poopy or wet. I did buy a potty the other day, just in case we decided to give it a try. Wow, I cannot believe I am even talking about that already!

"aunt_freya" wrote:

Wool or fleece over the leaky dipes. Ellie is doing the same--Kawaiis, BG, FB's--all her pockets. We sent interlock pants to the babysitter & she's starting potty training with her.

Good luck! don't give up. We do use fitteds and wool or fleece at home, so we don't have this problem, but she still gets wet fast.

I wish wool as not so expensive. I think fleece will be a better option b/c of price and the colder months ahead.

"alwayssmile" wrote:

Totally making a mental note about this! I know I've heard of toddler pee going faster than the cloth can absorb, but good to know that this is a disposable diaper issue too!

Another note to self: Put clothes back in the car for ME! lol.

I do hope this doesn't last long for you or that you're able to find a solution. I wonder if there are any creative solutions on diaperswappers.

It's so embarrassing to have to have to worry about Jordan leaking on me but it's really bad that I have to worry about her leaking on other people! My BIL was holding her today and I was so nervous the whole time that I would have to apologize when he handed her back. THANK GOODNESS the hemp insert and flat stuffed in her diaper did the trick today.

"TiggersMommy" wrote:

I agree, good to know that its a problem with sposies too! We use prefolds 90% of the time and I've NEVER had a pee leak that wasn't related to daycare personnel error. I did just buy a bunch of pockets though so I'll be on the lookout.

My DD holds most of her pee overnight and lets it rip a few minutes after she gets up. I'm able to catch it on the potty most days. At her age, its still EC and not potty training, IMO. If your DD goes at some regular time perhaps you can start popping her on the potty to start the PT process.

I wish I could see a pattern with her peeing. Maybe I will start watching her a little more closely. I'm sure reading up on ECing would help. I will admit I know very little about it!

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What detergent are you using and how much? When I've had leak issues, it's usually a detergent problem.

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I went to Kohl's yesterday and they have their 100% polyester fleece pants available now (at least here). Those work great. Also, I bought some specifically made to go over cloth off of a HC store. Let me see if I can find something similar...http://hyenacart.com/2by2boutique/mt/1245/25612/Custom-Longies-Slot-You-Pick-All You can go wild with fun prints or you can get some more subdued pants.

Oh, and her diapers were on a very different snap setting when I put in all those inserts, but my kids are pretty skinny so it worked. Biggrin

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Children's Place also carries some 100% polyester fleece pants that work awesome (and match a ton of cute shirts). I don't know if they have them in stores yet for the winter, but I've gotten some from there in the past and cloth fits under them just fine. You may need to go up a size if your LO has a bit of a tummy.

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oooo Andrea, those fleece longies are cute!

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Kayla- I started PTing Ava around Jordan's age. it started because she was getting bad rashes with teething and airing out her little bottom worked the best. So I let her run around bottomless and kept the potty out in her eye site and bribed her to sit on it every few minutes.

She was fully PT'd with no more day accidents by 21ish months. I give a lot of credit to cloth for the early PTing. Andrew is in the process of PTing now, I'm hoping to have him out of diapers during the day by the end of the year.

As for the diaper issue...I have no advice. My first thought was they needed a few cycles through the dryer on a hot setting too. I hope you can figure it out. that sounds frusterating.

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We potty trained Daphne at about 20 months because of never ending rash issues. Have you taught her the sign for potty? I started using the sign with D when I would go and then she started to sign when she would go pretty quickly...within a day or two. I then bought a potty and just kept her nakey butt for a few days and she learned pretty quickly. It was fairly messy, but her rash went away. Smile

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"joysiloo" wrote:

We potty trained Daphne at about 20 months because of never ending rash issues. Have you taught her the sign for potty? I started using the sign with D when I would go and then she started to sign when she would go pretty quickly...within a day or two. I then bought a potty and just kept her nakey butt for a few days and she learned pretty quickly. It was fairly messy, but her rash went away. Smile

#1: OMG your sig pic is cute. Killing me!
#2: I think we're going to have to go this route too. Addy's only 15 months, but she's been seeking out small objects like boxes and bins to sit in and poop in her diaper! Hilarious...and maybe a good sign?

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I CD part time. I went back to work and had no time for extra washes, so I went back to sposies.

I do put DD on the potty when I am home. The amout of pee and force at which she lets if out is quite impressive. I don't think any cloth diaper could hold up to that. Daycare often sends home wet clothes and that is with sposies.