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    I'm sure this topic has been discussed on this board before, but I'm going to bring it up again. I washed poopy diapers for the first time today. I have and HE, front loading machine and no hot water to the washer, so all of our clothes get washed in cold water only.

    The diapers, even a soak and two wash cycles still had poop in the crinkles at the legs where the elastic bunches up. I finally washed it out by hand on those diapers. Any tips on this?

    And, the inserts are stained. Should they have washed clean or is that normal?
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    Any way to get hot water to the washer? Or at least warm? I don't have an HE, but can you safely add extra hot water to the wash?

    I have heard of some people need to "trick" their HEs to give more water, so they add a soaking towel to it for more weight.

    Usually a wash routine is cold rinse, hot wash with detergent, cold rinse (part of the normal wash cycle), extra cold rinse. Some diapers claim to not use hot water, but I always do. It's the only time I use hot water period with our washer. If you don't use hot water I'd suggest at least warm (which some people said has worked fine for them).

    As far as poop goes, if it's just EBF it should wash out. Staining is normal from it. Maybe do a DIY diaper sprayer to spray them off if it's an issue but it should wash out. Maybe it's not getting agitated enough? :-/ Wish I knew more about HEs, but we have super cheap old top loader!

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    hmmm, I have a HE front loader and don't have this issue, but I do a cold rinse, hot wash, double cold rinse after. I've checked after the first cold rinse and mine have rinsed out the poop by then so I don't think it's a Hot water problem.

    How many diapers were in the wash and how long did you go before washing them? If you don't have enough or wait too long you can have more issues.
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    From what I've read, a hot wash is necessary to kill bacteria. So if you're going to do only cold you'll need some sort of additive. Here is a thread that talks about it. Hopefully you can find some good advice there.
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    I've been reading that some people actually first run cold wash first without any detergent and then a 2nd wash with detergent (make sure you're using less than you would with clothes!). Then an extra rinse. Most stuff should work out during the rinse cycle cause EBF poop is water soluble.

    One blogger said that after a regular initial rinse in her HE she runs a 2nd rinse with no spin. This way she has more weight and therefore more water when she does the wash cycle.

    A post on JM says that she sprays off all poop diapers (even EBF) before throwing in the pail and then has no issues.

    And your hard water might be adding to it (was an issue for me!). Several people recommend Calgon with detergent since it's a water softener and should help make the detergent work better since you don't want to keep adding detergent (typically leads to stink).

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    What about special setting on your washer? If I have a really poopy load I'll run a "Whitest Whites" wash after my initial rinse. it really gets things cleaner, I'm not sure if it's hotter water or spinning more though, you'd have to read the manual for the washer.
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    I've tried various settings on the machine with extra rinse cycles, on heavy, normal, sport all with an extra rinse cycle and starting with the soak cycle.

    I use Vinegar in my laundry anyway so I automatically did it with the cloth diapers, but I'd still like to be able to get the actual poop washed out of the diapers without a whole bunch of extra work. I really don't think it's a water temperature issue, but I did ask DH what it would take to get hot water to the washer. He said, "a lot". His solution is for me to boil water, and then slosh 'em around in a bucket of hot water before washing them in the washer. Hello, lots of extra work I don't want to do and don't have time for, really.

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    That's poop I see, right? Not just a stain? If its poop then that's most certainly a problem with your washer. Its not that its cold and its not a hard water problem. The poop just plain isn't coming off. That's an agitation problem. I'm really not much help when it comes to that because I have a old top loader that's agitates just fine.

    How many diapers are you loading into the machine at once? Perhaps you're over loading it? Is your washer still under warranty? Maybe get it looked at?

    Hot water isn't necessary. Its never going to be hot enough to kill bacteria. Diaper detergents are formalized to work best in hot water. Its a solubility thing. Compounds have different solubility curves so its best to wash according to the instructions given on the detergent. BUT that doesn't mean the effectiveness is going to decrease so much so that the poop doesn't come off.

    Spraying may not help because its in the creases. When I spray, I get 99% of the poop and the 1% is in the creases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiggersMommy View Post
    That's poop I see, right? Not just a stain? If its poop then that's most certainly a problem with your washer. Its not that its cold and its not a hard water problem. The poop just plain isn't coming off. That's an agitation problem. I'm really not much help when it comes to that because I have a old top loader that's agitates just fine.

    How many diapers are you loading into the machine at once? Perhaps you're over loading it? Is your washer still under warranty? Maybe get it looked at?

    Hot water isn't necessary. Its never going to be hot enough to kill bacteria. Diaper detergents are formalized to work best in hot water. Its a solubility thing. Compounds have different solubility curves so its best to wash according to the instructions given on the detergent. BUT that doesn't mean the effectiveness is going to decrease so much so that the poop doesn't come off.

    Spraying may not help because its in the creases. When I spray, I get 99% of the poop and the 1% is in the creases.
    YES! It's not even coming off the diaper, especially in the creases. No warranty, unfortunately. The only hope I have is that we sell the house with the washer in it and either buy a house with a better washer or buy a new washer. And spraying didn't solve it either and for the exact reason you stated. I'm having to hand wash the poopy diapers. This is not what I had in mind when I decided to give CDing a go. Hopefully, we can sell the house soon.
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    Does an overnight soak help at all for the poop? I do remember reading a blog about a lady who always hand washes all of his diapers. She tried making it sound fun. Pretty sure she's nuts. Wonder if I can find it though....
    Maybe when you move search locally there to find someone selling a super cheap top loader. Doesn't need any fancy settings. I've seen them go for $50 here which makes me wonder why the heck I ever bought new to begin with. . .

    HA found one of the hand washing blog posts I remember reading before: Cloth Diapering Without A Washing Machine
    Handwashing Cloth Diapers- Washing Cloth Diapers by Hand

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