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rubber_da_glove's picture
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Alexander decided to talk. He went from about 10 words literately over night to talking in full sentences and copying EVERYTHING I say. It's like he was storing it up until he could do it right Lol

How are the other non talkers going?

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That is great!

Luke is getting better. I can understand much more of what he says. He's still not where I would think he should be, but any progress at this point is good for me.

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That's awesome!

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Congrats to Alexander!

On this subject... do you find that girls talk a lot sooner than boys do? I swear (and this is horrible) but I can't remember when my boys started talking... but DD has gone from her second birthday saying a few words here and there, to talking in complete sentances! I've also read that it has to do with their birth order as well... sorry I don't want to hijack the thread, this was just interesting to me, and made me remember that my boys weren't as chatty as DD is...

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Yahoo WTG Alexander! See, he had it in him all along!

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I do think that girls talk sooner than boys. Makenna amazes me with some of the things that she says and how fast she picks up new words!!

A friend of mine has a son that is 3, he barely spoke a word until he was about 2 and a half. My friend was worried but her Dr said that he was a smart kid, would follow instructions and such. The Dr said he was just a man of few words!! Now he is a chatter box!

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It's going pretty well here. Jocelyn has had a big burst in language skills this past month.

Jocelyn's ST told me that her single-word vocabulary is nearing normal range for her age.

She labels tons of stuff and has finally gotten to that wonderful milestone of hearing an airplane, looking up to see it, and saying "airplane!" in an excited voice and then looking at us to make sure we see it, too. Same for lollipops. Sometimes she is just so excited to be eating a lollipop tha she will hold it up, yell "LOLLIPOP!" and look at us to make sure we are looking at her lollipop.

She combines two words and can use a few phrases, like "Daddy, where are you?" We think she is using more phrases than we know, because so often it will sound like she says something like "I see a blue car," but it's just so unclear that we're not ready to call it official.

She is still struggling to use her words to communicate wants and needs, which is her biggest speech issue at this point. But, she does do this some now, which is a big improvement from just a few months ago.

She is starting to say "eat!" to us when she is ready for lunch.

We were in the pool and I was bobbing her up and down, putting her further and futher in the water. Once the water came up to her nose, I picked her up and said something about being ready for more, and she looked at me with a serious face and said "ALL DONE!" It was awesome communication for her. Totally unprompted, totally appropriate, very meaningful, and timed perfectly.

She is repeating a ton of what we say now.

Her articulation is TERRIBLE. This is the least of my concerns, so I'm not worried about it yet. But wow, it's really bad. Lollipop = "wahpa," where are you = "wahhhwo," airplane = "ehpaay," etc. It's like translating a foreign language sometimes. This is a big reason we think she is saying more phrases than we are aware of.

One of the biggest changes we've noticed is with her receptive language. If we say "time to eat," she will walk herself upstairs to the the table. If we say "time for night night," she will walk herself up two flights of stairs to her bedroom (unless she doesn't want to go, in which case she'll just have a fit, but this is still appropriate understanding!). If she is coloring on the table and we say "no, color on paper," she will switch to the paper. Just stuff like that where she is following directions better. Still nowhere near normal, but way better. We actually have some real communication going on now.

I think I told you ladies this, but she qualifies to attend special ed preschool next year for 5 days a week, 3 hours a day. Small class targeted at building language and social skills. And totally free! We are thrilled and expect it will be wonderful for her.

Slow and steady, slow and steady...

Oh, and so glad to hear that Alexander and Luke are doing so well!!! Smile

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Oh, the old adage that girls talk early certainly has NOT been true for Jocelyn. :eek:

Although, Elliott isn't burning up the charts, either. He babbles far more than she ever did at his age (although she couldn't hear at his age, so that makes sense). He is also more interested in having long "conversations," where Jocelyn wasn't so into that. We'll have to see how his talking timetable compares to hers. So far he is more delayed in everything except for babbling and attention.

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"stuntmonkey" wrote:

Her articulation is TERRIBLE. This is the least of my concerns, so I'm not worried about it yet. But wow, it's really bad. Lollipop = "wahpa," where are you = "wahhhwo," airplane = "ehpaay," etc. It's like translating a foreign language sometimes. This is a big reason we think she is saying more phrases than we are aware of.

I way told by our ST that they work on language (saying more words) from 2 till 3 then speech (the pronunciation) from 3 onwards.

Alexander can say about 75% of his words perfectly but some make no seance on what they are meant to sound like. Counting for example he goes "one, two, three, two (whisper four in his ear) four, five, et (six), achen (seven...?), echt (eight), nine, ten" Smile

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Yeah, we're not putting much effort into articulation yet in ST or at home. Language and communication of wants and needs is still totally our focus.

At this point, we think her artic issues are actually pretty cute.

Armadillo (her fav stuffed animal) is ahmaeeeooo
Goldilocks is gowok
Miss Elaine (her daycare provider) is maaaay
Elliott is ehhyaa

I'm not sure if she's getting better at articulation or if I'm just getting better at translating. Smile

As long as she knows what she's saying, eventually the artic issues will lessen. We're trying hard to enjoy the comedy of it at this point...

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"rubber_da_glove" wrote:

Alexander can say about 75% of his words perfectly but some make no seance on what they are meant to sound like. Counting for example he goes "one, two, three, two (whisper four in his ear) four, five, et (six), achen (seven...?), echt (eight), nine, ten" Smile

Okay, I am super impressed by his counting skills! That doesn't sound delayed at all! Here's Lily: "one, two, three, six, eleven, thirteen, six, eleven!!" Every time, this same sequence! Silly girl! Blum 3

And I wouldn't worry too much about articulation at this point. Lily can communicate a lot, but there are a lot of things that she doesn't articulate too clearly, and I know she is saying even more than I can understand. She also still speaks some gibberish at times too. Do your LOs do that too? I mean, apparently it means something to her, but doesn't resemble the English language in any way, shape, or form!

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"Vstarr" wrote:

She also still speaks some gibberish at times too. Do your LOs do that too? I mean, apparently it means something to her, but doesn't resemble the English language in any way, shape, or form!

Yep. He looks at me, says something totally random that sounds like Chinese or something then waits for an answer like I was meant to know what he was saying Lol I'm like "yeah...ok" and he carries on what he was doing quite happy that I fully understood him Smile

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Yay for progress on every Sugar Plums!!

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Jocelyn may be behind on most everything, but the one thing the girl can do well is count.

She can count from one to twenty perfectly. Articulation is not great, but she gets every number in the right order.

She can use one to one correspondence to count up to five objects. When stacking, she'll say "one, two, three, four, five" as she puts each block on the tower. Sometimes she will go up to eight doing this, but usually she gets sidetracked around five.

She can use two word phrases to count up to two. Like, she'll bring over a sock and say "one sock!" and then she will go get another sock and bring it over and say "two socks!"

I think she is going to be a little math diva in a few years. The mathmatical side of her brain is obviously her strong side right now. I've read a few sources that say that kids with apraxia have issues on the language side of their brain, so the brain has to reroute all the language stuff through the mathematical side of the brain, which contributes to the delays in expressive language. Weird to think about, but I'm a fan of whatever works! God bless brain elasticity! Smile

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"rubber_da_glove" wrote:

Yep. He looks at me, says something totally random that sounds like Chinese or something then waits for an answer like I was meant to know what he was saying Lol I'm like "yeah...ok" and he carries on what he was doing quite happy that I fully understood him Smile

Jocelyn does this all the time now. It's so obvious that she knows what she's saying, but we just have no idea.

We're getting a little better as time goes on. Tonight we actually figured one out. She was saying "ah ah wa" over and over as we changed her for bed. Slowly, the sounds got a bit clearer and turned into "It's bah wa" and we realized she was saying "It's backwards" because we put her in the pajamas that zipper up the back. She was so happy when we finally figured it out! And we had no idea she knew the word "backward" !! Smile

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I'm not big on articulation with Liberty, but she doesn't really have any trouble with her words. The only thing that drives me nuts is the turning "r" to "w"... my son does this as well and he's 6! It's really been a struggle with him, especially when he started school last year. He tries to spell out words as he hears them, so wherever there's supposed to be an "r" he puts a "w!"

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Jamie- That's great about Jocelyn counting! Ryken can only count 1,2,3. I'm always working on it with him too.

I have to say that Ryken talked pretty early and has always had a pretty large vocabulary. He just doesn't always talk very clearly. So, I don't think you can really say one gender generally talks sooner than another.

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Wow, go Alexander and Jocelyn! It sounds like all the other Sugarplums are way ahead of Connor. He is in speech therapy (his 3rd appt was today) and he is doing alright.
He is starting to try a little more, and he is more consistently putting two words together. He has also started, well, babbling I guess. He never did much of it when he was a baby, but now he will babble like he is talking.
His speech therapist says that he is very good at communicating. She has taught him a couple words in sign language... he will sign "help" but not "all done". So we are getting somewhere!