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    Hello ladies, as you may recall Ryan was unable to breastfeed at first because he was so sleepy and tiny. I have been pumping and feeding him bottles, and have persisted at trying to breastfeed. It is getting better and he now latches on ok most of the time, even though it still hurts sometimes (it hurt like hell for a long time in the beginning because of his poor latch). We still have some issues and I am looking for advice.

    He will only nurse for about 10 minutes and then stops and falls asleep for a few minutes. He then wakes up again and absolutely refuses to latch back on, screaming his head off, and pushing away the breast, if I try. If I offer a bottle to top him off he roots for it like crazy like he's starving and usually takes another 1-2 ounces. I weighed him on a kitchen scale before and after nursing to see how much he was getting and it seems he gets about 1.5-2 ounces roughly in the 10 minutes he nurses. I don't know why he does this. I wonder if he gets tired of nursing and knows the bottle is coming. One day I just breastfed him and did not top up but with a bottle and he ended up very very cranky and wanting to eat every 1.5 hours. He would also not really go to sleep in between - I assume he was still hungry. Any thoughts on what I could do to wean him off the bottle and get him to take a full feeding? I am buying natural shaped bottle nipples today - we will see if that helps. I will also try to call a lactation consultant for help. It's so frustrating.

    I hate having to pump all the time. My milk supply seems to have leveled out (I was overproducing a lot for a while there), but now it's tough to pump enough for the top ups, and if he nurses for only 20 minutes at a time he doesn't drain the breast causing some discomfort. I wonder if he got fussy because he gets too much of the leaner "foremilk", which can make baby gassy and not make them feel full for long. Sigh! Help?
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    I would just stop offering the bottle alltogether. I think after a few feedings, he'll realize 'hey, that bottle's not coming anymore!' and maybe start eating more, or just learning to latch on better. I wonder if he's having a little bit of nipple confusion?

    I think that's great you're able to weigh him before and after a feeding! Vivian would only nurse for 5-7 minutes on one side each feeding, but just in the last couple days she's been doing both sides. She still only eats for maybe 15 minutes.

    I hope the pain when he latches gets better for you soon!
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    We had these same problems. In my case I stopped offering the bottle. It's normal for an ebf baby to nurse every 1.5 hours. For the first few days of absolutely no bottles there were times that Luke was nursing every 30 minutes. If a bottle is a must, switch to natural shaped nipples with the slowest flow possible. Wtg with continuing to try. I do know exactly how it is. Luke is 8 weeks and he just got it 2 weeks ago.
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    First, Hugs to you! You've been through a lot and you are still sticking it out, way to go!!

    I would go see the lactation consultant ASAP! Seriously helped me soooo much. They can watch you nurse and give tips.

    Do you have a fast or slow let down? I have a fast let down and Jonah gets overwhelmed and has to stop some times too. During the day I sometimes have to feed every 1.5 hours too. I give a bottle at night or when my nipples are too sore from the frequent feedings.

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    Yep, this definitely sounds like nipple confusion. DD did the same thing to me and I ended up throwing in the towel because she refused to BF (I know better now lol!). If I were you I would invest in the Tommee Tippee bottles, as their nipples are shaped just like your nipple shapes in his mouth while he's eating, so there's really no confusion. I'm back to working full time and Trystan drinks bottles from whoever is caring for him. When I get home and feed him all during the evening and night there's no problems at all... and I know it all has to do with the types of bottles I'm using. Try and cut back on the bottles and he'll get the hang of things. Even as an infant, right now he knows that eventually you'll stick that bottle in his mouth, and if you stop doing that (and only use them when you absolutely have to, using the CORRECT type of bottle and nipple) then he'll latch back on. I'll also recommend some good nipple cream, medela lanolin for your nipples... it really helps if they're sore. Good luck and KUP!
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    I would stop the bottles too! And defintely go see a LC


    It's normal to only be taking an ounce or two at a feeding at this age. They're bellies are still small. They don't hold much but they empty quickly! Atnight Nick nurses probably 2 out of 3 hours with little breaks inbetween. Don't let him trick you into thinking that frequent feedings mean he isn't getting enough. It's easy to confuse a normal newborn behavior with problems. Eating every 1.5 hours is normal. So is every 20 minutes or 3 hours. I think talking to a lactation consultant would really help you know what to expect from your baby and reassure you that your doing a great job!
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    Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it! I don't mind if he nurses often for short periods of time I was just worried he would get too much foremilk - he did have one green frothy diaper which I thought could be a sign of it. He's back to the normal yellow now. I bought Playtex NAturalatch nipples and will use them from now on when needed, but I am going to try to skip the bottles as much as possible.

    I am beginning to think there is a bigger issue than just nipple confusion (which I am sure he has between the bottles, the nipple shield and the breast). 15 minutes after I start feeding him he often starts squirming like crazy and crying uncontrollably - this can last for about an hour each time. He does not really want to eat during this time, he just screams. It eventually results in passing lots of gas and several poops, and then he is usually better. I did notice that this has gotten worse now that he does not poop as frequently anymore. He does have some feedings in between that are alright without too much fussing.

    I am thinking about cutting dairy from my diet to see if it eases his stomach pains. It kills me to see him in such discomfort. He did this at every feeding last night, and I am beat . I am sure he is too. Anyone elses babies seem to have such a hard time passing poop and gas?

    I do have Lanolin cream and it helps. The one nipple is worse than the other, there seems to be a persistent crack or blister on it. calling the Lactation Consultant right now. Thanks for all the tips!
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    green frothy is a sign of too much foremilk. you can nurse him on the same side twice in a row to help him get more hindmilk. This will work if he is eating again in about an hour or so. i would try that and see if that helps.
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    here is a link that may help. The gas is also a sign of too much foremilk or too fast of a let down.

    http://www.pollywogbaby.com/breastfe...cknursing.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by science_gal View Post
    I am beginning to think there is a bigger issue than just nipple confusion (which I am sure he has between the bottles, the nipple shield and the breast). 15 minutes after I start feeding him he often starts squirming like crazy and crying uncontrollably - this can last for about an hour each time. He does not really want to eat during this time, he just screams. It eventually results in passing lots of gas and several poops, and then he is usually better. I did notice that this has gotten worse now that he does not poop as frequently anymore. He does have some feedings in between that are alright without too much fussing.

    I am thinking about cutting dairy from my diet to see if it eases his stomach pains. It kills me to see him in such discomfort. He did this at every feeding last night, and I am beat . I am sure he is too. Anyone elses babies seem to have such a hard time passing poop and gas?
    Mine does this! Except she squirms and whimpers until she pops off, cries, tries to find the nipple again and repeats the process. If i leave her off she just screams even after 2 hours of nursing. Happens most often about 9 or 10 at night and she will nurse on and off for 2 to 3 hours like this but its not every night. I am cutting out dairy and wheat to see if it helps. Was also told to try limiting sugar but I'm already doing that because of the thrush and it doesn't seem to help this issue.
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