choosing a c-section?? wth!!??

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choosing a c-section?? wth!!??

So while Im watching a baby story on tlc , this woman is on here having her baby via c-section... just because she wanted one!! Im at a loss for words!! Even the doctor said that they elected to have the surgery because after weighing the pros and cons it was best for them. This was this woman's first baby and there were no medical problems or reasons to need a c-section !! I just don't understand some women's mindset... why would you want to do that if it wasn't needed rather than have a vaginal delivery?? I remember reading that Christina Aguilera chose to do this same thing because she didn't want to go through the pains of labor and what birthing her baby might do to her vagina! Ugghhh sorry if Im overreacting, this is just a very sore subject with me, as I don't feel that this should be allowed unless there's a legitimate medical reason for it... and I think that her doctor is a greedy little jerk for allowing her to do this!! Im not wanting this to be a debate thread, but I couldn't help but share my frustrations!!

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Wow. I cried for days after mine. I so wanted a vaginal birth. I can't even imagine!

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I think most doctors jump on it because its so much easier on them. Its nuts!

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Yeah, we did the debate thing. But as far as PREFERRING a c-section? That's NUTS! I'm bummed I hardly have a chance of trying for a vaginal birth. At this point it looks like a definite no. Oh well, I mean, you do what you have to do. But again, it's a HAVE TO.

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I think they should only be done if medically necessary. This is why insurance rates are so high and such. People doing things that are not medically needed which jacks up the price of health care.

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This is actually becoming the norm. I did a paper on it. People such as Madonna & Britney Spears have chosen to have elective c/s.

Also, another country where this is HUGE is Brazil. I think it's from the belief that your hoo-ha should be perfect for your man....barf!!

The vanity is sickening.

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I have every plan on having a vag delivery. I can't fathom just having major surgery just cause.

But sometimes when I look at the sizes of all of the heads in my dh family I question this LOL

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I can understand why a woman would prefer a c-section. (I don't, but I get it!). Espically a first timer. It's scarry! Having some control over things is comforting to some women. (Just ask one of us "type A ers"!)
As for the doctor- well, it's less risk for them. Fewer complications.

In our (the USA) medical system, a patient has the right to demand a c-section and not have a vaginal birth. After seriously looking at the pros and cons, I don't see why you would prefer a c-section (unless medically needed), but we all have different priorities... My sister had both. She said the vaginal delivery was SO much eaiser to recover from and way les painful!

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"jeepbaby" wrote:

My sister had both. She said the vaginal delivery was SO much eaiser to recover from and way les painful!

I have had both and I completely agree. I much preferred the vaginal birth and recovery. Personally I will never be able to understand why someone would prefer major surgery over giving birth vaginally if your body is able to do it and there are no complications. It just boggles my mind. I know this subject was brought up on my last birth board and there were a couple of girls who were choosing to have a c-section for personal issues such as past history with abuse, and some other things, and I can't judge someone for something like that b/c I've never been in their shoes. But doing it just for vanity's sake seems so messed up to me. JMO!

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hahaha I SAW THAT SAME EPISODE!!!!!! I thought that girl was a total piece of work. She said vaginal births are primitive and no one should have to go through that in this day and age.

One of the surgery residents at work elected to have a c-section. I think its crazy!!! She was concerned about things being too different "down there" and wanted a c-section to preserve her female anatomy.

Granted I've only had ONE baby, but it didn't really change anything down there. They sew you back together again if needed lol.

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"HaganBaby" wrote:

But sometimes when I look at the sizes of all of the heads in my dh family I question this LOL

haha I can totally relate!!! DH's family all has big heads, but I never noticed. Luke's head was over the 100th percentile at birth. This baby's head was measuring 2 weeks ahead of its body at my 22 week anatomy scan :eek:

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"HaganBaby" wrote:

But sometimes when I look at the sizes of all of the heads in my dh family I question this LOL

Oh no! Now I have an entirely NEW WORRY!!! Blum 3

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I don't understand either. And by the way I hate watching baby story and bringing home baby. The women drive me crazy and how ignorant or uneducated they seem to be about everything having to do with birth and newborns. Not everyone on those shows are but more often than not. IMO

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My OB doesn't charge differently for vaginal vs. Csection. I guess the hospital may benefit more from the extended stay but isnt it supposed to be just one more day without complications?

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"Carolyn85" wrote:

hahaha I SAW THAT SAME EPISODE!!!!!! I thought that girl was a total piece of work. She said vaginal births are primitive and no one should have to go through that in this day and age.

One of the surgery residents at work elected to have a c-section. I think its crazy!!! She was concerned about things being too different "down there" and wanted a c-section to preserve her female anatomy.

Granted I've only had ONE baby, but it didn't really change anything down there. They sew you back together again if needed lol.

I totally agree! I've pushed three babies out down there and DH still loves it like it was our first time lol, so I don't know what these women are thinking! This is what vaginas were made to do! Just like our uterus goes back to its original size after baby, so does our vagina... that's the way God made it!!!

Amanda, I know what you mean about the shows... especially with the ftm's (sorry don't mean to offend anyone)! So much of what they say is so ignorant it drives me crazy!!

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I completely agree with you Krystal. I don't think it should be done unless medically necessary, and even then I think that doctors often set women on a path that will inevitably end in a c-section, when things could have been done to prevent it. I have a co-worker who I am almost positive scheduled a c-section "just because." I think it is incredibly selfish and vain. She also thinks breastfeeding is "disgusting." I sometimes have a hard time talking to her about it...but I keep my mouth shut.

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"mlle_carrie" wrote:

I completely agree with you Krystal. I don't think it should be done unless medically necessary, and even then I think that doctors often set women on a path that will inevitably end in a c-section, when things could have been done to prevent it. I have a co-worker who I am almost positive scheduled a c-section "just because." I think it is incredibly selfish and vain. She also thinks breastfeeding is "disgusting." I sometimes have a hard time talking to her about it...but I keep my mouth shut.

When my sister had my nephew (she was just 19) she felt breastfeeding was gross as well. My mom tried her best to encourage her to try it as did the nurses in the hospital but she simply refused. I, however, knew from the moment I was pregnant that I wanted to breastfeed. It just seems so natural to me. My youngest sister chose to breastfeed her two as well.

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"_Jessicah_" wrote:

When my sister had my nephew (she was just 19) she felt breastfeeding was gross as well. My mom tried her best to encourage her to try it as did the nurses in the hospital but she simply refused. I, however, knew from the moment I was pregnant that I wanted to breastfeed. It just seems so natural to me. My youngest sister chose to breastfeed her two as well.

Personally, I find breast feeding gross, too. But, I did (and will do it) for my LOs because it is what's best for them. I mean, cleaning poop is way grosser, and we all do that! Having a baby is not all roses and lavender; I don't know why some people don't get that. Once you have a kid the world is no longer about you....

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I don't understand it, but for the most part I don't think it is selfish. If someone chooses a csection at 37 weeks just to avoid more stretch marks or to get the baby out earlier for no other reason, I think that is selfish. If they choose an elective c-section because they honestly feel it is the best thing for them then I don't feel that is selfish. It is their choice and they are not hurting their baby. C-sections come with risks, but it is their own personal choice and if they have discussed all the risks and benefits with their dr then who am I to judge?

I have had 2 c-sections and I didn't find them to be as horrible as some women think. I wouldn't have chose one the first time if I had any other options that I felt safe. The second time I opted for a repeat instead of even attempting a vbac because it was best for me.

I wasn't decided on if I would breastfeed or not until my son was actually born. I was still up in the air. I ended up nursing him and dd and will this one as well. I love it and always feel sad when that time is over.

Overall, ( and I don't mean this to any of you Wink ) I think Mama's need to leave Mama's alone and let everyone do what works best for them and their family.

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I thought breast feeding was gross too!!! But I also thought it was the right thing to do. And then somehow when they handed me that baby NOTHING about it seemed gross anymore. I also had ALOT of support from my mom. I love b'fing Smile :) Smile Luke nursed for a year and it was great!

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"PAmom2boys" wrote:

My OB doesn't charge differently for vaginal vs. Csection. I guess the hospital may benefit more from the extended stay but isnt it supposed to be just one more day without complications?

My OB charges $500 more for a csection.

"jeepbaby" wrote:

Personally, I find breast feeding gross, too. But, I did (and will do it) for my LOs because it is what's best for them. I mean, cleaning poop is way grosser, and we all do that! Having a baby is not all roses and lavender; I don't know why some people don't get that. Once you have a kid the world is no longer about you....

I was a little hesitant by it too until I started doing it. Then it felt so natural.

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I figured there would be a big difference when it came to paying the medical bills for a vaginal birth as opposed to a c-section! Wow, glad that doesn't seem to be the case at $500 isn't that much more and you had surgery.

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I watched this show all the time when I was expecting DS, but I find I can barely stand to watch it this time around! The women drive me bonkers with their crazy decisions and excessive whining. This episode would have killed me!

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As far as BF goes, it was always a no brainer with me. I mean, how do women think babies were fed for thousands of years before someone invented formula??!! It's obviously the best choice for them, and for a woman to just not want to do it because they think it's gross is weird to me. Obviously it takes some getting used to (and can hurt quite a lot in some cases)... but like you all have said, it's what's best for our babies!! I never got to BF any of my babies past 4 months or so, because I had to go back to work and my milk all but dissapeared, but I sure did try for as long as I could. If I were a SAHM I would do it until at least one year old.

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I was really fortunate with DS as I had to go back to work when he was 6 weeks old. I had an in-home nanny until 3 months and then to a sitters. I was able to pump enough to keep it BM exclusively until about 5 month, at which point I had to supplement one or two feedings a day with formula. I was able to keep up the BF'ing until about 10.5 months when he self-weaned... likely bc I was not making much anymore. Hoping this time around to have something that good. Smile It was hard, we got thrush a lot and all the pumping at trade shows and while traveling for work, and all day at work was a PITA, but so very worth it.

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"_Jessicah_" wrote:

I figured there would be a big difference when it came to paying the medical bills for a vaginal birth as opposed to a c-section! Wow, glad that doesn't seem to be the case at $500 isn't that much more and you had surgery.

There could be a big difference if your OB charges seperately from the hospital. With a c-section, you have to pay for the surgery room, extra personell, etc.... (not that it is really that much more, but they charge you like it is :rolleyes: )

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our hospital has an operating room fee of 35-45$ per minute!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes the patient lies there asleep 15 minutes waiting for the surgeon to arrive. That doesn't happen too often because anesthesia gets in trouble... oh and they have their own separate fee!!! Craziness! I have no idea what happens when that all gets filtered through insurance. It's such a game.

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I got a quote from my insurance regarding my c-section costs at my hospital: $18,000-$21,000, we pay 10%, therefore....we are out $1,800-$2,100 w/o including my doctor's fees or the Anesthesiologist!!!!

Seriously, I don't know why anyone would choose to have a c-section. I have no choice (my pelvis is too small and have a high risk of an emergency c-section if I even tried a vbac) & it stinks that I have to recover from surgery with a new born. It was a painful recovery for me with DS!

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I registered at the hospital this morning and got an info packet of what to expect. It said I should expect bills from the OB, hospital, anesthesiologist and someone else. It also said that if you don't have insurance you have to pay for anesthesia by month 7 and its $1500 - $2000.

Jules - I went back at 12 weeks and I pumped for 7.5 months at work. Then I had enough stash for him to have BM until he was 9 months - then we switched to formula. I said that if I ever had more kids I'd only go to 6 months but now I am wanting to try for a year again.

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Yea, a vaginal birth is expensive enough! I will likely still have $2k out of pocket expenses with no complications! Plus, don't you have to stay in the hospital longer with a c-section? That would cost more too I would guess.

Good for you Jenn! I'm going to do my best to make it to a year as well. Smile

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paying for birth boggles my mind! I'm in Canada and not working, so I pay nothing for health care.... Doctor or midwife, all covered

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"Veni Vidi Vici" wrote:

paying for birth boggles my mind! I'm in Canada and not working, so I pay nothing for health care.... Doctor or midwife, all covered

I live in the states and have been paying for healthcare all my life and it still boggles my mind!

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"sugspop" wrote:

Yea, a vaginal birth is expensive enough! I will likely still have $2k out of pocket expenses with no complications! Plus, don't you have to stay in the hospital longer with a c-section? That would cost more too I would guess.

Good for you Jenn! I'm going to do my best to make it to a year as well. Smile

Insurances vary so much as well! All I paid for was DS's circ, and my epidural. If I had not gotten the epi my 2 day stay would have been free. All my pre-natal care was free as well except for part of my lab fees and ultrasound fees.

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I just pay the co-pays so the cost doesn't change depending on the type of birth. $20 prenatal visits, $100 ER visits, and $1500 for birth -- a 2-for-1 deal!

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I agree that all insurances are different. When I had DD I was under a different insurance than I am now, so I paid $20 for every OB appt, an $800 co-pay for the doctor, and almost $700 for the hospital co-pay. I was so pissed because I never go to the doctor and had been paying into my insurance for 3 years... so for me to have to pay over $1500 to have a baby is ridiculous! I had gotten hired at a new company about a week before I got pregnant, so as soon as my 90 day probation was up I immediately switched insurance, and it's so much better. My OB appt co-pay is the same, but I only had to pay $100 for the doctor co-pay and the hospital co-pay will be $400 to have the baby and another $150 if I cave and get an epi. And the great news is that my company has a doctor visa card that I can load on as much money as I want every year to pay for all my visits and they just take a little out of my check every week... pre-taxed!

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I was saying from the doctors perspective it's nit more money or not much more. The hospital is a whole other$ drain.

Our OOP is 20% so OB is ~700, hospital is~700 for me and ~700 for baby plus anthesiology(if I use them) last time I paid about~100 but that was 15%.

DH went on military orders for his unit for 30 days this summer so we could get the tricare for 180 days. It acts like secondary insurance so most all of our OOP is covered. Except any u/s and labwork prior to those 30 days.