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Confused!

Ok, this is my first time ever taking clomid, so maybe that has something to do with it, but 2 days ago my opk was + and then yesterday I *think* it was negative because the two lines were pretty close, and today it is back to blazing + again. What is going on? Look at my chart and see what you think. Thanks!

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well if your chart stays up I would say you ovulated. But I don't see a big dip and then a rise. I started testing at CD10 when I was on clomid. Maybe your body is gearing up to ovulate and is getting ready to release that egg. I would keep taking temps. I know I had a drop and then a steady climb since the IUI. I tend to get a drop and then steady rises for 3 days after I ovulate even if there is no egg release.

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Do you have a pic of today's test? The others would be great too even though they are dried. That can be helpful.

Your temp increase is prior to the positive OPK so I don't really think you have O'd yet but your temps seem to be stable at that higher level. I would continue to use the OPK's and temp until you get a definite temp shift.

FF hasn't given CH's which, had you O'd prior to the +, it would be likely to do based on temp shift. I say keep going as if you haven't. Today's may be the REAL thing, especially since it's blazing! I expect you may see a dip tomorrow or another increase.

FWIW: I usually O on the upswing temps and sometimes don't have a dip so don;t be concerned about that too much.

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I may be COMPLETELY wrong but I think I read somewhere that clomid will affect the results of positives/negatives on OPK's. I forget which one. You should look into it.

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See I think that is what happened to me last cycle, I did clomid cd3 to cd7, I thought I got a positive on cd17 but my Re says cd20 or 21 but I never tested after cd 17, my ob also said that sometimes clomid can make you o late even though they say 7-10 days after your last pill its not the same for everyone. Keep temping that will give you a clue!

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Thanks everyone. Well, I did read that you can get false positives on clomid, but usually opks are reliable 3 days after you take your last pill, so I should be ok on that. I don't think I o'd yet, but I guess I will just go by my temps.

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Amanda, you're right, if you take an OPK too soon after ending Clomid it will give you a false positive. The other thing, and you may already know this, is what time were you taking the OPK's? They are not a good FMU test, as apparently we always have slight amounts of LH in our system, and a concentrated FMU would show that concentration of the normal low level and give a false positive.

I usually test between noon and 5 pm - makes for some interesting bathroom sessions at work. *eye roll*

I am guessing that the second one was "for real" and would certainly BD as if it was, until you get a good temp jump or CM change to give you more info.

Good luck! Oh yeah, also, on Clomid, I've found I also get some pretty significant ovary soreness when I'm close to ovulation. This is only my second go-round with it myself, so I'm still learning.

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I would still BD like you have not O'd yet. Remember SMEP says three days in a row after a positive, break one day, then an insurance Smile LOL

Your chart is pretty confusing to me right now...it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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"MrsChris" wrote:

Amanda, you're right, if you take an OPK too soon after ending Clomid it will give you a false positive. The other thing, and you may already know this, is what time were you taking the OPK's? They are not a good FMU test, as apparently we always have slight amounts of LH in our system, and a concentrated FMU would show that concentration of the normal low level and give a false positive.
I usually test between noon and 5 pm - makes for some interesting bathroom sessions at work. *eye roll*

Wow, this is good information! I didn't know that. Ok, so the OPK I took on CD12 was FMU, so it was probably really negative and not +. The opk I took yesterday was at 4:00 in the afternoon, so that was probably the REAL positive! THANK YOU!! I'm going to change that +opk on cd12 to a negative. This helps!

Oh Also, I had cramping yesterday and the day before. So I bet my body was gearing up to O and then O'd yesterday or early this morning. THANKS!!

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Hmmm, I've always read that FMU and OPK's are not a good idea as you are more likely to get a FALSE negative. Since your body metabolizes the LH, the long it sits in your body the lower concentration as it has been 'used'/'destroyed' by your body.

Either way, I agree the second test is the real thing and your chart seems to show it was. Fingers crossed!!!

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Ok girls....here I stay in confused land! Today I had a TON of EWCM! So I'm thinking maybe I didn't even O yet? And maybe the opks are off because of the meds? Who knows? I didn't take anymore opks because I ran out, so I have no idea what they would have said yesterday or today. Oh well. I guess I just have act as if I haven't O'd yet. Dh will enjoy the extra bding sessions!

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*lurker*

I can tell you when I take clomid, especially on days 5-9 I o much later in the cycle than normal (like around cd20 +/- a few days) and I have several positives or close to postives on opk's leading up to o.

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"isuche02" wrote:

*lurker*

I can tell you when I take clomid, especially on days 5-9 I o much later in the cycle than normal (like around cd20 +/- a few days) and I have several positives or close to postives on opk's leading up to o.

Wow, interesting! FF gave me crosshairs on cd14, but I don't know how reliable that is.

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Yeah, I also O later with Clomid, which is not a bad thing, since I had 25 day cycles. I've gone from O on day 10 to O on day 13. I do 14 days of progesterone, so that takes me almost to a more normal 28-29 day cycle.

Did Clomid give you any side effects? I didn't notice much except O pain being a LOT more noticeable, but the progesterone suppositories are EVIL.

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