No heartbeat -- I'm so scared

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No heartbeat -- I'm so scared

I am looking for support and prayers. It took my DH and I two years to conceive our beautiful daughter who is now seven. Three years ago, I miscarried at 5w 2d. We had given up on ever having another baby, and then on our spring vacation, we brought home a little souvenir. Smile

I was so excited to go for my first real appt. with my OB yesterday. Two weeks ago when they first drew blood, my progesterone levels were a little low. Because of my one other miscarriage the doctor has me on Prometrium three times a day, and other than feeling really tired, I've been very well. At our ultrasound exam yesterday, my doctor measured me at 6 weeks along, even though based on LMP, I should be 6w, 4d. Granted, we saw a beautiful gestational sac and yolk sac, but no fetal pole and no heartbeat. I was heartbroken.

They have scheduled me for another u/s next Tuesday. I am so scared because I don't want to lose another baby, but I don't know if we'll see a heartbeat next week or not. The doctor said not to worry, but I can't help it. After not seeing a heartbeat I don't even feel pregnant today, although I'm pretty sure that it is just my imagination playing games with me. Has anyone else gone through this? What was your experience?

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I sure did! This pregnancy was just like that for me. The doctor wasn't worried but I was. Sure enough a week later we saw a healthy little heatbeat.

I'll be praying for you!

-Melody

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I think it's fairly normal not to see a heartbeat that early. I can't tell you not to worry because I would be worried as well. But I will say a prayer for you and your LO and hope that everything comes out alright. Just try and keep your mind off things. I am 6 weeks 3 days and so far my only symptom has been fatigue and sore BBs. I have only felt nauseated a few times and that's when I hadn't eaten. My doctor told me not to worry about the lack of sickness because sometimes it can take until 8 weeks or so to hit. Smile So keep your head up!!

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Thanks, Melody & Jessicah

I'm trying to keep my chin up and look on the sunny side of things, but it is hard. My husband is so positive this pregnancy will be successful that it is a little irritating. I know it is because he took the m/c so hard three years ago (that baby was due on his b-day) and he thinks if he stays positive he can will this pregnancy to be successful. I hope he's right!

As far as symptoms, three days after conception I had reflux two nights in a row. That was exactly like with my daughter, so I KNEW I was pregnant right away. In the last week, I've had sore breasts, and a little mild cramping (but I had that with my daughter and know that it is just the uterus growing), and extreme fatigue (the dr. says it is the extra progesterone he's given me). Thank goodness I haven't had any morning sickness. I never did with my daughter either and pray that I'll stay free from it this time too.

I'll be sure to keep you posted after my appt. on Tuesday. I really appreciate your support. Smile

KT

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I will keep you in my prayers for a strong heartbeat at your next u/s.

:bighug:

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I hope that everything is ok. I have heard it is "iffy" if you will see the heartbeat at 6 weeks so hopefully it is just too early. :bigarmhug:

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why do they do ultrasounds at 6 weeks???? the amount of pain and stress and fear over not seeing a heartbeat must be horrendous!!! you poor poor thing. I hope everything is okay and you see a beautiful beating heart in a few weeks.

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"Carolyn85" wrote:

why do they do ultrasounds at 6 weeks???? the amount of pain and stress and fear over not seeing a heartbeat must be horrendous!!! you poor poor thing. I hope everything is okay and you see a beautiful beating heart in a few weeks.

I agree! I think sometimes it's forgotten how much emotion we have riding on it.

I hope it's just too early to hear a heartbeat. Sending you positive vibes and big hugs.

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The same exact thing happened to me...I thought I was over 6weeks, had an u/s that showed only an empty sac that measured only 5 weeks...I was freaking out! But I went back in two weeks the baby and heartbeat were there...apparently i just ovulated later than I thought I did.
So I would try not to worry, even though that's sooo hard to do.

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I think it is m
ormal not to hear it that early. Praying for you and your LO!

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I hear about half the time people dont see the hb at 6 weeks. I dont know why they do them that early. A lot of unnessecary worry. I hope to hear good news from you on tues. Good luck!

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I called a private ultrasound place to get an early scan before we start telling people and they told me point blank not to bother coming in before at least 7 weeks because it is a gray area where you may/may not see any heartbeat and they don't want to worry people. For that reason I chose to wait. So I think it's pretty common not to see a heartbeat that early. Hoping for a nice strong heartbeat for you next week!!!:bigarmhug:

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I agree with everyone else. Try no to worry. 6 weeks is very early to see a heartbeat. Also, the margin of error on an ultrasound at 6 weeks is about 3 days, and even if you know when you ovulated, there is variation in implantation time--if you implanted late, you will measure a little bit behind your dates--if the u/s is off from your dates by less than a week it is not anything to be concerned about.

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I was one of the people who did get a heartbeat at an early ultrasound (5 weeks) but the OB and nurses each reminded me dozens of times beforehand that it would be very unlikely that we'd see a heartbeat and it doesn't mean anything at that point.

And wasn't there a Grey's Anatomy with that recently, too? When Callie had an ultrasound before the crash and they told her she wouldn't see a heartbeat that early? Ok, totally random, but it's completely normal not to get a heartbeat that early.

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Good luck Tuesday, I hope everything will be OK and baby is good and healthy!

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Just wanted to let you know... I had a m/c before this pregnancy, then I had spotting around 6 weeks. So my dr sent me in for an u/s- no heartbeat, and the sac was measuring a few days smaller than I thought I should be. They said they couldn't tell me anything for sure, to come back at 8 weeks and they would have a better idea if I was having a m/c or not. After the LONGEST 2 weeks of my life (I was spotting the whole time), I went for another u/s, and there was a heartbeat! Now I'm 30 weeks.:D
I hope your next u/s has better news!!

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*lurker*

Heck they had a hard time finding babys HB when I was in the ER at 10 weeks this pregnancy. US tech ended up doing a vaginal US to find it. I am now 18 weeks preggo.

With my last we didn't see a HB at my 6 week appt either and he is now 3 1/2 Smile

I think its probably just to early.

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Hey, I just wanted to check in with you. Did you get your u/s today??

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Me too, please KUP on how your U/S went today!!

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Thinking of you today :bigarmhug:

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At my 6+ week appointment, all they saw was the sac. NO yolk thingy, no fetal pole, no baby, just the empty sac. I was heartbroken and scared! But we went back at 8 weeks and the baby and its heartbeat had appeared! Hugs and good thoughts!

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There is a heartbeat now -- 160 bpm

Thank you to all for your support. It means so much to me. I haven't posted because the next u/s showed only a weak heartbeat. He still couldn't measure the baby well, but at least we saw it! Two days ago had my 3rd u/s and we saw a hb of 160 bpm!!!!!:p

Unfortunately, there was also a small subchorionic hematoma. The Dr. did not seem too worried and I'm trying to be positive and rest a lot (hard when you teach high school!!). The part that concerned me is that he says I was only measuring at 6 weeks 3 days when I should be 8 weeks and 2 days. I can actually feel when I ovulate (and even if I couldn't, I have an ovulation monitor) so I know within a day or two when I conceived. According to me, I should be due on Christmas Eve. He thinks it is more likely to be January 6th. I know my dates aren't off by two weeks like he claims. Anyone else been through this? I feel so needy right now and don't mean to bother everyone. I'll feel so much better when I get out of the first trimester. Smile

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Are you sure the feeling you feel is ovulation? I used to think I could fell ovulation (it hurts as all get out, too!), but I was talking to my doc before I got pg, and she said it is pretty rare to feel ovulation. She said what most women feel is the release of the hormone that triggers ovulation, not the actual ovulation. So maybe it is possible that you are a day or two later then you thought?

IF that is the case, then you could have theoretically ovulated a couple of days later, and implantation may not have occurred until a day or two after that?

Just a thought!

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You aren't a bother. The dates do seem kind of spread apart, BUT when I conceived my son we did it with IVF. I knew my exact date of fertilization and conception - so there was no mistaking it. However, when I switched from my IVF doc to my OB they changed my original date of Nov 7 to Nov 20 :eek:. Yeah - no thanks! So I really can't help you out too much, sometimes the DD is more a general guesstimate IMO. I had my DS on Nov 11 and I know I was past due!

I'm glad you saw your LO's HB. And from what I have read about your subchorionic hematoma from being on these boards is that it happens to a lot of women but will dissolve itself over time.

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I know it can be frustrating when you think you're exactly right on your dates and the doctor tells you something different. That happened with my daughter, I new EXACTLY when my LMP was but they still said that I was 8 days behind where I thought I was. I think the important thing to focus on is the fact that baby has a good strong HB and you were able to see it! Don't sweat the small stuff! So happy for you!

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Just a note on feeling ovulation: I've been charting for 2+ years and there were some months (including the one we conceived) that I was SURE I ovulated - EWCM, strong O pains etc. But my temp never went up and sure enough a week later the same thing happened again but less intensely and then my temp finally went up. If I wasn't charting I would have never known to continue BD like crazy Wink

So I think it's definitely possible to measure somewhat behind. I had my first appointment today and even though I am sure of my O date, I measured 5 days behind. My OB wasn't worried at all and said things can really change this early on. Once you see a nice strong heartbeat she said the risk of miscarriage is reduced quite a lot and then goes way down at 2 weeks. When I worry I try to think that everything is fine at this moment and I can do nothing to control the future so I might as well enjoy a healthy pregnancy right now! Please keep us posted and don't worry about being a bother at all!

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"science_gal" wrote:

So I think it's definitely possible to measure somewhat behind. I had my first appointment today and even though I am sure of my O date, I measured 5 days behind. My OB wasn't worried at all and said things can really change this early on. Once you see a nice strong heartbeat she said the risk of miscarriage is reduced quite a lot and then goes way down at 2 weeks. When I worry I try to think that everything is fine at this moment and I can do nothing to control the future so I might as well enjoy a healthy pregnancy right now! Please keep us posted and don't worry about being a bother at all!

I've always thought I felt my ovulation too. With this pregnancy I was sure I ovulated on cd 14 since I got a positive opk that day. However, I am measuring 3 days behind so perhaps I was wrong? My ob wasn't concerned either and said I probably ovulated on cd 17. That makes sense to me since opks tell you that you will ovulate in 24-48 hours.

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The margin of error on an ultrasound at 6 weeks is at least +/-3 days, and it increases as the pregnancy gets further along. There is individual variation in fetal growth and the measurement is not an exact science. Try not to worry about measuring behind.

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Thanks everyone

I appreciate the support. Right now, I've stopped worrying. God has to be in control of this because my life is completely out-of-control.

My mother-in-law is here and driving me crazy! She doesn't even know we are pregnant, and I prefer it that way. She actually invited four extra family members to come with her to our house this weekend to our daughter's dance recital (she lives 4 hours car ride away) WITHOUT asking us first. At $10 a ticket, that was quite a hit to our wallet. Tonight she also stole a tub of sour patch kids from my daughter's Easter candy. I can't wait for Monday morning when I go to work, because I know she'll be gone before I get home that afternoon.

It's funny. My husband never believed that I could really feel when I ovulated either. So, when we were TTC our daughter, he bought me an ovulation monitor. It turned out that when the monitor said I was fertile, that was when I had pain. The pain isn't actually the ovulation itself, but the swelling of the follicle immediately preceding ovulation. When the egg has been released, the pain stops. I know it is rare to actually feel it, but I do know my body. I always ovulate from day 16 to day 17 after the first day of my LMP. Oh well. I'm giving the sprout some more time to grow. Maybe when he/she gets a little bigger the doctor will realize I know what I'm talking about.

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I am so glad you saw the hb! I had a subchorionic hematoma with my daughter and it scared me so much but they are fairly common. With me, I had spotting ( more like huge gushes of bright red blood) two days in a row and that was all.

Your MIL needs to get a clue. That is ridiculous. There is no way I would have paid for her extra invites! Jeez.

I hope you can get some rest when she leaves.

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Hi Smile

I've been tracking my fertility for at least 10 years and I too can feel ovulation due to the heavy cramps. I used a ovulation monitor, temped, and symptoms etc. But in my experience, there have been occasions when my ovulation monitor would go positive, I'd cramp, but not actually release the egg, (noted by the lack of temp rise.) Around 10 days later I'd succeed in ovulating (noted by the shift in progesterone). Progesterone was the key factor here not just the lh or the mittelschmerz (pain at ovulation). Just a thought.

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The good news is the baby is growing in there with a great HR!! I wouldnt worry too much about dates either. Although OB's tend to trust dates in the first trimester more than later ones. So i wouldnt expect them to change it again later.

Yay for a healthy pregnancy!

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Crushed. . .the baby died

I went in yesterday for 9 wk. 2 day ultrasound. Baby only measured 7 wks. No hb. The doctor was great. He told me he was so surprised, especially after the strong 160 bpm heartrate last week. My D&C is next week. Thanks everyone for your support. I'm going off-line for a while to grieve with my family. You've all been great.

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I am so sorry to hear this Sad My heart aches for you and your family.

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oh, I am so sorry to read this Sad (((hugs)))

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I'm sorry for your loss Sad

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I'm so sorry you are going through this. T&Ps!

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:bigarmhug: So sorry.

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So very sorry for your loss. Sad

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I'm so sorry for your loss :bigarmhug:

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I am so sorry.

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I am so sorry. :bigarmhug:

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I am very sorry for your loss!:bigarmhug:

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I'm very sorry for your loss. My prayers to you and your family :bigarmhug: